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You've learned quite well, on the other hand, BevD. You've learned how to ignore the main point, and plow forward creating an imaginary strawman Obama supporter (one that believes Hillary = Evil, Obama = Savior and the press is in league with him) that believes in all of those things that you've mentioned.
There are a lot of very valid reasons to dislike HRC's campaign, and her being a woman and a Clinton are not among them. You can also believe that the press is sexist, misogynistic and patronizing, but again, that might have very little to do with why she won't get the nomination.
Hillary voted to give President Bush authority to conduct his adventure in Iraq and has never admitted her mistake. In the most important issue in the campaign, she has nothing to stand on.
Posted at June 2, 2008 11:18 AM in response to LIPSTICK ON A PIG
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That's asinine. Your letting your own insecurities and perceived slights get in the way of good judgment. Great, you hate people that you perceive as thinking they are better than you. Beyond that, you have little else to say of any value.
No one wants another four years of out of touch, right wing train wreck that's going to break our military and bankrupt our nation. A lot of people are going to suck it up this fall and do what they need to do to get whatever Democrat that wins the nomination into the White House.
Posted at May 26, 2008 9:28 PM in response to Newsweek: Obama's Appalachia Problem Is Real
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Frum and Douglas Feith are the two dimmest bulbs in the NeoCon movement. I do not quite understand why anyone gives these guys book deals, let alone reads what they write.
It seems like when you have been so broadly and deeply discredited (or being exposed as morally and intellectually bankrupt) you should at least have to spend a few years in exile. These guys have jumped right back into the fray older, but not wiser.
Who's listening to these hacks anyway?
Posted at May 26, 2008 9:38 AM in response to Good Frum, Bad Frum
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It's probably better to point to the examples of divided Democratic conventions, though. 1968, divided convention, result: Humphrey lost. 1980, divided convention, result: Carter lost. 1984, divided convention, Mondale lost.
Posted at May 23, 2008 6:37 PM in response to Keith Olbermann Says It All On RFK Assassination and Hillary
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Here's a little glimpse at what the right wing attack line would be if Hillary wins the nomination.
I don't know about you, but I'll take McCain's ridiculous ad hominems and Obama's sitting on a board with a never-convicted 70s radical, and his crazy pastor over the Riadys, Jorge Cabrera, Johnny Chung, Ng Lapseng and the never ending stories of how she abused the military officer corps that served at the White House.
It's hard not to laugh when I hear claims that Hillary has been "vetted".
Posted at May 16, 2008 6:28 PM in response to McCain Responds: Americans Have "Every Reason To Doubt" Whether Obama Can Keep Us Safe
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Wait, so the media is biased for Obama or against him? What is it this week? I just can't keep up with you guys any more.
Posted at May 16, 2008 6:10 PM in response to Edwards: "Democratic Voters Have Made Their Choice, And So Have I"
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Useless tosser.
Posted at May 16, 2008 6:08 PM in response to Edwards: "Democratic Voters Have Made Their Choice, And So Have I"
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Name calling is stupid, immature and pointless, I agree 100%. But pretending that all views are equally valid (when some are clearly motivated by injustice, hatred and fear) so that we can get on with the healing, clearly misses an important step. Sometimes you need to set things right, using plain language, and demand atonement before you can bring everyone back into the fold.
Posted at May 15, 2008 9:53 PM in response to Hillary's concession speech planned...early draft leaked
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And a significant number of them vote GOP.
That's some pretty remedial logic. You just made a huge non-sequitir because you've observed some vague correlation/intersection between firefighers and Republicans, and you're looking for a pat response? I don't think so. I suspect that you think you see the world in nuanced terms, shades of gray if you will. But I'm not convinced you do. Let me explain:
What I'm saying is politically, such people are the enemy. They embrace values that I despise. I have a good friend, Mike let's call him, we work together, laugh together even have a good time out on occasion. But he is kind of an intolerant asshole who harbors deep down racist, xenophobic and believes that if he doesn't do everything he can to prevent a black man from getting ahead
I like Mike and he has some redeeming qualities. He provides for his family, he doesn't cheat on his wife (that much), but politically, he is my enemy. After countless arguments, I have come to regard him as a lost cause, so I will do everything I can to defeat him (at the ballot box). Maybe not him so much, but the insular, lazy casual loathing that he carries around with him 24/7. I do what I can to convince those people that are on the fence about his ideas, that his ideas are poisonous, they easily lead to things like hatred and violence against strangers, and cause people to lash out at Sikhs, when our towers were attacked by Sunni Muslim extremists on 9/11.
I can hang with Mike, but his views are abhorrent to me. He is not part of the "healing" you are talking about. Neither is Jonah Goldberg, or Ann Coulter, or Michael Savage or Pat Buchanan. We can live in a place where these people are not physically threatened for holding the views they have, but make no mistake. Their views, if allowed to be accepted as mainstream, is what makes fascism possible. The best we can hope for is having enough people around to make his views an aberration, rather than a valid viewpoint. And that's my goal.
And liberal arrogance, if it's borne of actual real life experience, careful observation, and understanding of circumstance and context, and not some shrill overeager college student enforcing the PC code, or self-righteous hippie bullshit, is perfectly fine with me.
Posted at May 15, 2008 9:50 PM in response to Hillary's concession speech planned...early draft leaked
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How can you demonize or boo the other party. Aren't they also Americans?
The are Americans. But they are Americans that are openly contemptuous of other Americans. They use fear, jealously, hatred and innuendo to divide us, to set us off against each other, or keep us jaded and thinking that we can't make a difference. They appeal to our worst instincts to keep us at each other's throats while they loot our treasury and kill innocents abroad.
They are worthy of being hated. Both the prosecutors of this filth and their enablers.
Hillary has employed these same tactics (albeit in a very modest way) during this campaign, so she deserver, not hate exactly, but shame. I don't think anyone here started with hatred in their heart for Hillary, but she let us down... even those of us that would have supported her had she won.
It will fade in time, but , like her vote to allow President Bush to do violence on a mass scale in Iraq, some of us may never forgive her for it.
Posted at May 15, 2008 8:37 PM in response to Hillary's concession speech planned...early draft leaked



