Alright, I'm agnostic, but I'm still going to jump in on this. That second quote is indicative of how people feel they are being told that they can't have any part of their religion in a public area. Yes, it's misguided, yes its incorrect, and yes you can start going on about oh it's really rich of the majority to talk about being oppressed.

But after you're done with that, you'll be in the same deadlock and super pissed. The thing is a lot of Christians just don't want to be told that they can't practice their morals, their beliefs, and their values in public actions and decisions.

Although you might mean: Hey I keep it cool and don't hang an angel on the Christmas tree in town square this year, they're afraid it's going to mean: Keep all of your values that you cherish away from me because I'm completely against them and they're terribly offensive so you can't practice or talk about them and it should be against the law.

So, in that sense I think what Obama says is really constructive. He's sticking up for the heathens but at the same time he's saying "look let's all get along and stop bitching."

Posted at July 2, 2008 6:58 PM in response to Atheists Rejoice

Rabbikitty, you're thinking truly scares me when you say you think you'll trust him to make his own strategy. I'm assuming you had your eyes open when Bush was given that same blind authority by the nation after 9/11 right?

I've campaigned for Obama in 3 states and am very devoted to him. But I'll not write him a blank moral check on the actions he takes just yet...or ever.

Posted at July 1, 2008 9:04 PM in response to The REAL Barack Obama--Unmasking the Beast

Gah, that was to Clearthinker

Posted at July 1, 2008 9:01 PM in response to The REAL Barack Obama--Unmasking the Beast

Indeed. Obviously I'll vote for Obama even if he does move center-left, and I'm becoming more accustom to the idea that 'unity' doesn't mean just liberal haha which should have seemed obvious.

And yet, you're exactly right that Obama isn't supposed to be a settle for candidate. We should try to shape his agenda (as he does represent us).

Posted at July 1, 2008 9:00 PM in response to The REAL Barack Obama--Unmasking the Beast

Agreed. The whole thing just reminds me of a spoof movie and taken in the right context it's just that. Granted it was on a very right wing republican's website, but if they were really going to be making fun of gays, I'd expect much worse. Were's the alluding to child molesting and broken down marriage? Pointing this movie out just seems like it's reaching to play the discrimination card.

Posted at July 1, 2008 8:52 PM in response to GOP Senator's Campaign Site Links To Gay-Stereotype Comedy Vid

Do we have to say it's degrading? I mean I guess it's over the top but honestly I'm really not offended.

Posted at July 1, 2008 6:17 PM in response to GOP Senator's Campaign Site Links To Gay-Stereotype Comedy Vid

Yeah me too. You certainly won't see any money from me, but I hope it gets paid off.

She could have stopped that run up of debt a loooong time before it got to where it was. Let her fuckin' pay it off.

Posted at June 25, 2008 1:25 AM in response to Obama Asks Donors To Help Hillary Pay Off Her Debts

*just called to Obama*

Posted at June 19, 2008 1:49 PM in response to Lawmakers Reach Deal Over Government Surveillance Powers

I just called to and the guy I talked to said that he himself had probably received 30 calls on the matter and that the phones had been ringing all day about it.

CALL NOW!

And for shits and giggles here's the other contacts:

Pelosi:
District Office - 450 Golden Gate Ave. - 14th Floor - San Francisco, CA 94102 - (415) 556-4862
Washington, D.C. Office - 235 Cannon HOB - Washington, DC 20515 - (202) 225-4965

Steny:
1705 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone - (202) 225-4131
Fax - (202) 225-4300

Posted at June 19, 2008 1:47 PM in response to Lawmakers Reach Deal Over Government Surveillance Powers

*party and asked*

Posted at June 19, 2008 11:57 AM in response to Michelle's moment.