"trashing of the horizon in tourist areas. They would lose much more $'s in tourism in florida" that's the same argument Ted Kennedy uses against wind farms in Mass... Question, how many oil platforms were damaged during Katrina?...and how much oil spilled? Answer 102 and none. Safety has come along way since the 70's (that was the last offshore oil rig environmental disaster). 3 years start to pump (gasoline pump)for offshore drilling

Posted at July 3, 2008 3:32 PM in response to Vulnerable GOP Senator Recites Bogus China-Cuba Oil Myth

Someone started celebrating the 4th a little early...

Posted at July 3, 2008 3:20 PM in response to Rudy Pops Up, Recites China-Cuba Oil Myth

3 years (sorry)

Posted at July 3, 2008 3:17 PM in response to Vulnerable GOP Senator Recites Bogus China-Cuba Oil Myth

So now it's 20 years to get the oil? Last week it was 10 and that's from ANWR. #years it what experts say from starting to build an offshore platfor to refined gasoline in the pump.

Posted at July 3, 2008 3:16 PM in response to Vulnerable GOP Senator Recites Bogus China-Cuba Oil Myth

The point is not to be scary...it's to point out the fact that everone in the world could have access to that oil EXCEPT us...that's the insanity of the left. Banning Exxon from puming that oil isn't protecting us from anything "environmentally." The Cuba and China stuff is just the flavor of the day to make people increadulous...if they'd have thought about it last cycle it would've been the French who had potential access.

Posted at July 3, 2008 3:14 PM in response to Vulnerable GOP Senator Recites Bogus China-Cuba Oil Myth

Let me take this point by point:
1."that THAT will take US alot of time to actually do." Just because it will take time (3 years from starting to move platform parts to gas in the pump for offshore) that is not an excuse for do nothing.

2."it would have NO EFFECT on gas prices NOW" some of the rise in price is due to speculation, there are 10 and 15 year futures being traded today. Lifting the ban on offshore drilling would cause the price of the futures to drop and should lead to some decrease in the current price of oil.

3."which is why the Republicans supposedly bring this entire debate up in the first place." No, Republicans bring up the fact that we arehere today because of the reluctance to open up the off shore fields and ANWAR back when we proposed it and Clinton said "You can't get any oil outtta there for ten years anyway." (for the record that was about 14 years ago). Also doing nothing now will only make the problem worse in the future.

4. "None of this solves the amount of carbon we put in the atmosphere." However McCain's plan to increase Atomic energy (45 new plants) would where as Obama's plan to "Study nuclear waste" and tax the oil companies (so that they can pass the cost on to you and hopefully invent something by 2030 (or was it 2050?) won't lower emmisions either.

5."None of this weans us off of oil." McCain's plan weans, Obama's plan is cold turkey (enphasis on turkey).

6. "I'm still confused how anybody in the middle class buys this garbage" Me too, how any educated person cannot grasp the fact that corporations pay no tax, they just pass the cost of the tax plus expenses to the consumer, is beyond me.

Posted at July 3, 2008 3:05 PM in response to Vulnerable GOP Senator Recites Bogus China-Cuba Oil Myth

Si, etsa es.

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:49 PM in response to New McCain Radio Ad Attacks Obama Over Hispanic Vote

Hold on, Rudy said "You look at Cuba, Cuba is going to allow China to drill for oil within 80 miles of Florida. And Florida had a 300-mile limit. So in essence, we have China drilling for American oil." Cuba is 90 miles from Florida. You say "Um, no. China's agreements with Cuba extend only to shoreline areas." How far from Cuba's shorline do you consider "shoreline area?"

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:44 PM in response to Rudy Pops Up, Recites China-Cuba Oil Myth

My grandfather used to say "don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see." I think it's the other way around on the net.

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:39 PM in response to McCain's New Campaign Boss Begins Tightening Grip On Operation

...just pointing out that we finally figured out how to say it and it be true...

Posted at July 3, 2008 2:36 PM in response to Vulnerable GOP Senator Recites Bogus China-Cuba Oil Myth