Where Are You, Angry Left?
There are still more poll numbers out this morning that suggest that the oft-referenced "angry left" isn't so angry about Obama's transition after all.
The new Associated Press poll finds that 90 percent of Dems -- that would be nine out of ten -- approve of Obama's transition. That would suggest that there aren't so many angry leftists out there, at least in the real world.
And in yet another blow to the angry left meme, Chris Bowers -- who's been anointed as the Face Of The Angry Left by the traditional news orgs -- says he's thrilled about the latest raft of Obama environmental appointments, including Steven Chu as Energy secretary, Lisa Jackson as EPA administrator and Carol Browner as energy "czar."
Which just ratifies this blog's earlier thesis: The "angry left" notion is largely a media fiction, and in reality liberals who have raised questions about this or that appointment also are optimistic about other Obama decisions and are capable of holding more than one opinion about the entire Obama presidency.















Well I think there are approximately 3 Angry Leftists here = they usually stay over in the Reader's Comments.
So that's 3...
December 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm an angry leftist (contrary to my opinion of yesterday). I'm just not angry about the things the AP thinks I am. I have no problem with Obama's transition strategy or his Cabinet picks.
I am angry with the panty-waisted pseudo-liberal hand wringers who claim to have a monopoly on what the "Left" is thinking!
December 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Amen. Look at Marc Ambinder's reporting today. He talks about the Dep of Energy pick, and says, "The Left seems to be happy" then links to Chris Bowers finally saying he's happy about an Obama pick.
Now do you see why some of us resent the work of the Open Left crowd? Their constant and vocal nit-picking has given fodder to the MSM to create this non-sensical story.
Well, they don't represent me. I'm on the left and can't wait for President Obama to be sworn in.
December 11, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you! My sentiments exactly!
December 11, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm left-handed, does that qualify?
But I'm not angry. Today, anyhow.
December 11, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
You and the President-Elect, my husband, and 3 out of 5 of our best friends.
Wonder what that means?
December 11, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
We know what it means, but we don't like to rub it in.
:)
And why I am not surprised you're a lefty?
December 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Correction, you surround yourself with them. Which works just as well.
December 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
;)
December 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
And me. Its because we only come in two flavors: really smart and really dumb.
December 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is how the media kept acting as if there were millions of PUMAs instead of a tiny band of nutjobs. They got way more press than they deserved. Every news article featured the same angry Hillary supporters like Lady de Rotschild. The fact that they had to keep going back to the same 3-4 people proved they were a tiny fringe group.
Now, the quickest way to get on TV or in the NYT is to be a leftist blogger and bash Obama. Chris Matthews will start slobbering all over them.
December 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, what happened to that chick anyways? Haven't heard from her.
December 11, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's sitting patiently at home waiting for her invitation to an inaugural ball.
December 11, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or, alternately, maybe the "Angry Left" decided to STFU with the ridiculous Sibyl Trelawny divination act they were doing with Obama's cabinet picks and get on board because an emerging MSM frame held a mirror up to them and they didn't like what they saw.
December 11, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
nice Harry Potter reference there. And appropriate too.
December 11, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Except that Sibyl occaisionally pulls off an accurate one.
December 11, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
The ''Angry Left" myth is a story concocted by the morons in the MSM who are looking to drive a wedge between Obama and his core supporters.
December 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is it just me or are the people spreading this nonsense about the angry left being up in arms completely nuts?
I really haven't been paying all that much attention to this stuff but it seems like about every day here at TPM for the last few weeks there's been a debunking of these stories so somebody must be spreading them. I know bloggers have to write and Tweety has to talk but is it too much to ask that they at least try to deal with reality?
December 11, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
But the debunking is just so much fun!
December 11, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well Greggy, there's the problem. The media is not capable of holding more than one opinion at a time, except that occasionally the opinion on page 6 contradicts the editorial page.
December 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is it that the anti-intellectualists have managed to box us into this notion that if you hold only one opinion and never deviate (irrespective of facts) you're a Moral Upstanding Amurikan(tm) and if you either nuance your understanding of an issue or God forbid actually hold more than view on a topic as dictated by circumstance or a changing factual basis, you're a schizophrenic East Coast Elitist(tm)?
(I'm going for the longest least comprehensible sentence award. Does that make me an elitist too?)
December 11, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm an angry leftist. I'm angry that the economy is totally f*cked up. I'm angry about rampant corporate welfare. I'm angry about no universal healthcare. I'm angry that college costs a fortune for my kids. I'm angry that my daughter is being taught how to take a stupid test as opposed to being taught subjects. I'm angry about the incredible concentration of wealth in the top .2 percent of the country, more than at any time in history. I'm angry about the death and destruction rained down on innocent people. I'm angry about all the dead and maimed americans based on lies. I'm angry about . . . Man, I am really angry. Do I count?
December 11, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
^C^V Cosign! (see above)
December 11, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm all that. But I still consider myself an Angry Center-Leftist. Maybe even an Immoderately Miffed Moderate
December 11, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
In that context, I have to add my name to the list of angry Americans, although not really left except that I think we need progressive policies to move this country forward.
December 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is righteous anger!
December 11, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. I love that.
It's in large part the same dynamics as false equivalency. Critical thinking and efforts to be value-free is one thing, but being critical for a criticism sake because that somehow may make you look more "journalistic" is totally another. But there is always an inherent fear in the press's mind of being criticized for being "in the tank," so they are motivated to make up problems that aren't there and create a straw man that lets them be "journalistic" critical. That's easier for them than to look really hard into "the real world," I guess.
December 11, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Instead of Blago-Gate, I suggest: Blago Paygo.
December 11, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
excellent. Or Blago stop-n-shop?
December 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or QuickieBlago?
December 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why was it okay to be part of the angry right of the GOP when the repugs controlled DC, but politically unstable to be part of the angry left of the Democrat Party on the eve of it returning power? The MSM reporting is definitely two-sided in its coverage. After the repug financial debacale takes out most of the MSM, I hope those left are the ones that see both party's in the same light without prejudice or favoritism.
December 11, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully the debacle will take out the right-wing media machine. Now that would be poetic justice. I hope they don't bail them out as well because they are "too big to fail." I would love to see murdoch in chapter 11. Let's see how he likes it since he is pushing it for the auto industry. I doubt that he would get debtor in possession financing either, so you are talking liquidation. Same with the rest of them. Maybe that's how we break up the right-wing media monopoly. Sorry, lush and insanity, in chapter 11 they can void your huge contracts. See you in the soup line.
December 11, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, Josh/Greg? Thanks so much for the links to the WSJ story pumping up the speculatory frenzy over the conference call at the center of Blagopaylooza (my "Name the Scandal" entry, btw) and the Politico "story" about that upright paragon of moral rectitude David Vitter's plan to call Bill to testify at Hillary's confirmation hearing.
I made the mistake of scanning the comments on both stories and now I feel befouled like a cameraman on a particular repulsive episode of "Dirty Jobs."
December 11, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, refining my entry: It shyould be "Blagopayloser."
December 11, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not one steenking health care question so far = all Blago Paygo.
December 11, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
90 percent of Dems approve according to AP, and according to CNN's exit poll 89 percent of Dems voted for Obama. So pretty much on the Democratic side everyone who voted for him isnt angry.
December 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wait a minute. I'm angry! See above.
December 11, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so glad you've been on this side of this (non) issue, Greg. Seriously. You've been one of the most rational and reasoned people in ANY news organization lately, blogging or otherwise.
The election may be over, and I know I'm not really commenting and posting like I used to, but I keep coming back here for your coverage, Greg. Thanks.
December 11, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think most on the left were unhappy with the nomination of Hillary as Sec of State. I know everybody I am friends with was.
This is about the only thing we're upset over so far.
December 11, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would tenatively throw Treasury/Economic Team in there to, mostly because it lacks a real critic of market-based Economics. I think most are satisfied and know Geittner, Summers, et al are brilliant people, but did anyone think Alan Greenspan was an idiot? That aside, even the most flaming lefties I know (Kucinich all the way!) are willing to give Obama a shot at it before going crazy.
December 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The thing to remember is that they will be implementing obama's policies. Now who would you want to convince congress and the american people to swing to the left, a flaming liberal that will get lambasted every day, 24/7, or the types of people that he has appointed that are "respected" by the right or market-based people? I want the policies. I don't care if he appoints mickey mouse to implement them. The proof will be in what he accomplishes.
December 11, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is what I see as the main reason he brought in the very people who broke the system. They know where all the bodies are buried.
December 11, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would recommend this comment if it was possible. You speak my mind, word for word.
December 11, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love this MSM stuff. I imagine they read these threads and Kos and a few others just to find out what's happening with the plebes. Surely they get this malarkey from the slap downs that occur when somebody questions the Holy O in any way.
It's a sure sign of "anger" if you don't goose step behind the point man. They want us to act like Republicans. I'm glad not to accommodate them.
December 11, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can't evaluate the opinions of leftists by polling the Democrats. No leftist would ever associate with the Democrats of today. This isn't your father's or grandfather's Democratic party. They are now one of the most right-wing organizations in the world.
Leftists are adults. Leftists believe in people taking responsibility for their actions. Leftists believe that bills have to be paid. Leftists don't believe in bankrupting future generations so they can go shopping today. Leftists don't practice deficit financing. Leftists don't give money to corrupt corporations. Leftists prosecute war criminals; they don't put them in charge of foreign policy. What, pray tell, do any of these beliefs have in common with Democratic practices?
December 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not sure that accurately describes "leftists" in the modern context of the word.
December 11, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you keep going left... indefinitely do you end up finding the radical right and round about and back again?
I just find it ridiculous that the 'left' can be polled, questioned, etc.
As others have suggested here perhaps they should be talking about the left-handed. At least there's a concrete group of people you can poll and question and they probably have plenty of interesting things to say.
December 11, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "angry left" consists of David Corn, David Sirota, and Chris Bowers.
December 11, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, I think it's a good thing that the media are falsely reporting that the left is angry with Obama. By inflating claims of liberal disatisfaction, they make it more difficult for the wingnuts on the right to paint Obama as a wild-eyed liberal, outside the American mainstream, which is the first step towards blocking his plans for things like healthcare reform...saving the economy...ending the war...saving the world from global warming...
December 11, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be honest, I know very little about this angry left, which I've loosely heard about from a few media outlets. I'm sure that FOX news has something to do with this but despite where it came from, it origins have a genuine, propaganistic quality.(yes I made that word up and it's mine!)
Evan
http://www.beyondrace.com
December 11, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also we should really consider the source when you offer us polls by AP. Aren't they a subsidiary of Fox "news" now?
December 11, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Knee Jerk Liberals of the "netroots"
You are legends in your own minds
December 11, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Knee jerk netroots liberals - STFU
December 11, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink