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Obama: "I Agree" With Senate Dems On Not Seating Burris

Barack Obama has just released this statement, supporting the Senate Democrats in their decision to block the seating of Roland Burris:

"Roland Burris is a good man and a fine public servant, but the Senate Democrats made it clear weeks ago that they cannot accept an appointment made by a governor who is accused of selling this very Senate seat. I agree with their decision, and it is extremely disappointing that Governor Blagojevich has chosen to ignore it. I believe the best resolution would be for the Governor to resign his office and allow a lawful and appropriate process of succession to take place. While Governor Blagojevich is entitled to his day in court, the people of Illinois are entitled to a functioning government and major decisions free of taint and controversy," said President-elect Obama.

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Good to hear and what I expected. I don't know anything about Burris, but it's sad to see him get involved in Gov. Soprano's games. I don't think it reflects very highly on him to accept the appointment, especially since two weeks ago he was calling for Blago to resign.

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Spot on!

Take that old race card and shove it, Bobby Rush.

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Blagojevich tries to appoint a decent candidate and all he gets from Obama is a smackdown? *bleep* him!

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Trying to do something decent. That'd have to be a first for Blagojevich. Now why would people think otherwise, I wonder...

Oh yeah, he's a corrupt official. That's why.

Well said Obama.

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Obama and the Democrats are totally wrong-headed in rejection Blagovich's appointment of Burris. The problem is not the race card which is a distraction but rather the importance of the rule of law.

What the Senate Democrats are proposing to do is to set a precedent that if a Governor is accused on a substantive basis of being corrupt in the process of making an appointment the appointment cannot stand. Those of us old enough to recall the Gingrich congress know exactly how much hay such individuals would have made with such a power -- any excuse to claim that a Democrat had been corruptly appointed would be used to alter the partisan balance. However responsibly you believe that you are conducting yourself in adjudging that Blago is unfit to appoint, you cannot ensure that subsequent Senates seeking to use the same power would use it responsibly. Currently, Blago is the elected Governor as Illinois and as such he has the power and duty to make that appointment. Indeed, if he refused to make an appointment he could be impeached on that basis by itself. If Illinois wanted to avoid this they have had two chances -- pass the legislation to allow a special election or a quick impeachment. So here sits Blago accused but unconvicted.

Does this mean that I think Blago is likely innocent? Not at all: he clearly contemplated the solicitation of a bribe and most likely attempted to obtain such a bribe. But the revelation of the prosecution's side of the evidence in public though persuasive is not the equivalent in our system of a conviction.

Obama should know better and not allow his disgust at Blago to move him away from the rule of law and into setting a precedent which would be used in the future to alter the basis of politcal power on the basis of plausible accusations of criminality.

There is time enough to expell Burris if it is subsequently shown that there was any criminality involved in his appointment.

I expect the Supreme Court will so decide if this becomes necessary but meanwhile in attempting to hit Blago, the rejection of the Burris appointment hits the right of Illinois to be represented in the Senate.


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I agree with everything Obama said, except for the boilerplate nice words about Burris. Roland Burris is a clown. He jumps from one campaign to the next, desperately seeking another elective office after his comically bad one term as Attorney General in the early 90s. From 1994 through 2004, Burris lost the Democratic nomination for Governor, lost the Mayor's race (by 40 points), lost the nomination for the U.S. Senate, then lost another nomination fight for Governor. The people of Illinois have rejected him over and over again ... to appoint him now is the height of political comedy.

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Burris actually is a good person. Just because he aspires to go for something higher in office...does not make him a clown - win or lose.

The same thing I taught my children, never give up.

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I hope that means that Obama is MORE than confident that he has three (3) reliable Republican senators to get his agenda passed.

If Franken is blocked, and Illinois goes without a second senator for many months, McConnell and wrecking crew will do their best to create "Great Depression, The Sequel" and blame it on Obama, Reid and Pelosi.

Let's hope highmindedness doesn't lead to 12% unemployment because we're 1 or 2 votes short of a filibuster proof majority. There are many serious issues that need serious legislation. Why make the perfect the enemy of the very good. I wonder what LBJ would have said.

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Maybe this is a signal that Obama and Senate Democrats are pretty confident Illinois will oust Blago quickly and Quinn will be in.

Even those Quinn might pick have got to be nervous at this point though.

On you main point though, I think Obama's agenda, particularly on economic issues will get passed, particularly if he/they sell it to the public first and create a situation where the obstructionist Republican will be further isolated by attempts to filibuster everything. I can't imagine Spector, Voinovich or any Repubs seeking reelection will trust people to forget the Bush disaster that started this ressession/depression.

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Obama is about doing the right thing even if it means only 57 Senators for awhile. Obama did the right thing. I would have had less respect for Obama if he had said just seat Buress so I can have 58 Senators instead of 57.

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Good for you, Mr. President-elect. You're in charge not Blago.

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You wish. Obama is following the crowd on this one, a very bad precedent for his upcoming administration. And the Senate Demos are making fools of themselves, another bad sign. Maybe they just need to get it out of their systems, but otherwise the Republicans will wreak havoc in Congress.

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I suspect he's already looking at 2010.
Republican intransigence is already playing into Democratic hands, and the narrative is already in place.
It just needs fleshing out.
Stay clean even if it means a smaller majority while the election and appointment issues are being worked out. "Good goverment yada yada."
Make proposals to mitigate the recession and let the Republicans hem, haw, obfuscate and delay.
"We're working on problems while they're posturing and obstructing for the sake of air-time."


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This whole thing is making me pissed, all over again, about why Obama and Durbin and the other Dem leaders in Illinois let this guy run again two years ago without supporting a serious primary challenge. They didn't just wake up a month ago and realize Blago is a crook -- and completely nuts. Why didn't they do something to stop his re-election?

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That's water under the bridge. "Would of, could of, should of" can only go so far. The point is now what to do. The past is the past.

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Obama -- "accused of selling this very Senate seat"

I'm a bit fuzzy on the actual charges, but I don't recall that being one of them. Is Obama wandering off course here?

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Really? Then I'm curious what you think the charges are.

According to a criminal complaint[151] filed in US District Court, Blagojevich is accused of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and wire fraud, as well as soliciting bribes. It is specifically alleged that he attempted to benefit financially from his sole authority to fill the US Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blagojevich#Federal_arrest_on_corruption_charges

Sounds like you're a bit more than "fuzzy".

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Neither count of the criminal complaint seems to mention the Senate seat. See page 1:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/acrobat/2008-12/43789434.pdf

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Obama -- "accused of selling this very Senate seat"??

Not formally nor informally that I can see. Sure a bunch of loud-mouthed pundits have accused him and even convicted him in the minds of many, but should Obama being following the crowd, or offering sober leadership here?

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Try again. From your provided link:

Defendants ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, together with others, attempted to use ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s authority to appoint a United States Senator for the purpose of obtaining personal benefits for ROD BLAGOJEVICH, including, among other things, appointment as Secretary of Health & Human Services in the President-elect’s administration, and alternatively, a lucrative job which they schemed to induce a union to provide to ROD BLAGOJEVICH in exchange for appointing as senator an individual whom ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS believed to be favored by union officials and their associates.
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That doesn't say he sold anything. It says he may have conspired to try to sell. It's also not one of the two counts of the complaint.

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Seriously? That's your response? You must have some awfully good eyesight to be able to split a hair that thin.

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I'll take that as a compliment from someone with myopia.

"accused of selling this very Senate seat"

Offering for sale, and selling, are two very different things. Talking about what something is worth, and offering for sale, are two very different things. Wild accusations from pundits should not guide Obama, but according to what he said, he's following the wild talk line. Fitz. clearly has not accused Blago of either an actual sale or an actual offer for sale. At most we have early negotiations.

So, Obama said it wrong. This is a bad sign, unless you embrace the Bush MO of "never mind what I actually say, oh, and never mind what I actually do either".

I hope that makes things clear for all.


Happy New Year

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No matter what Obama says or does, the shithead MSM will NEVER give up trying to drag him into Blago's filth. Check out this this nice little turd in the WaPo: http://tinyurl.com/92vhw5

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Okay, so now Obama joins Reid in promising what cannot actually be delivered.

By what authority is Reid going to prevent Burris from being seated? As far as I understand it, the Adam Clayton Powell precedent suggests the following grounds on which the senate might refuse to seat Burris:

1) He is not 30 years old. Burris is 71, so this is not a valid grounds for refusal to seat.

2) He has not lived in the United States for 9 years. This would also appear not to be true - he has lived in the US for his entire life.

3) He does not live in Illinois. This appears also to not be true - he lives in Illinois.

4) He was not validly elected to the job. This one is moot - Burris was appointed to the job, not elected.

Blagojevich is the governor of Illinois. The governor of Illinois gets to appoint a senator of his choice in the event of a vacancy. I don't see how this posturing is possibly going to end well.

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