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Dems Not Likely To Move Any Time Soon On "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

It looks like the Democrats won't be moving quickly on one particular issue that is favored by many in the party base, Roll Call reports: Repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and allowing gays to openly serve in the military.

"It ought to be re-examined and it ought to be on the agenda, but it shouldn't be very high on the agenda," said Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI). "There are just too many other more important things to do."

A cautious non-approach to this was also supported by Brad Luna, communications director for the Human Rights Campaign, the country's largest gay-rights group. "There is a strategically correct way to go about this," said Luna. "This policy has been in place for a number of years. It's not going to be repealed overnight."


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Democrats should not make a move on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" until the senate seats in Minn, Illinois, Colorado and New York are resolved.

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Nor should they make a move until Obama has made a full transition in regards to the DoD. I don't have a problem at this point with Gates and company staying on in the short term because of the situation here and abroad, but making the move will have a lot greater chance at being successful if Obama's team is in place.

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Well, considering how so many in the gay community have called him a coward, a bigot, a homophobe, a traitor, I wouldn't care if he doesn't move at all. Maybe it will teach them to grow the hell up and not attack your allies simply because they make a move with which you disagree.

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Yeah, alienating your base is a great formula for success.

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Quit the BS. The gays are no more Obama's "base" than any other group. In fact, gays voted for Obama in lower numbers than any other democratic nominee in the past 20 years. Gays overwhelmingly supported Hillary in the primary, despite the fact that she couldn't bring herself to utter the word "gay."

Then, in the general, Obama got nearly 10% less of the gay vote than John Kerry. This, after four more years of republican hate and incompetence.

So, the notion that Obama "owes" his victory to the gay community is ridiculous spin. You voted overwhelmingly for Kerry and he still lost.

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Yes Freeriding shitstain we all know how much you hate gays ....

Sounds like you pulled this argument out of your ass again....

Gays raised huge amounts of money for Obama. A much larger percentage of money than their numbers in the party just like they always do. Gays voted overwhelmingly Democratic just like they always do. Hillary Clinton would NOT have invited a fascist gay hater to have a starring role in her inauguration. Why wouldn't they like her more?

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Tell you what. Since you're sure Hillary will be a much better friend to the gay community than Obama, what say we wait until she's president to repeal DOMA and DADT? How's that?

As far as those numbers go. Visit fivethirtyeight.com. They're Nate Silver's not mine.

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Nate Silver does not publish any statistics on fundraising by subgroups in the Democratic coalition. Gays raise money far in excess to their proportion in the Democratic Party. Gays raised one out of every five dollars Bill Clinton spent in the 92 primaries. That is why he promised to ban discrimination in the military.

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I said "voted", you turd. According to Silver, Fewer gays voted for Obama than any other Democratic nominee. Why's that?

Despite having the most pro-gay platform of any Democrat in history, I wonder what made him less desirable. I'm stumped on that one. What, oh what, can it be???

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I can read fine: "I wouldn't care if he doesn't move at all. Maybe it will teach them..."

My point is that your point is misguided at best. If you support gay rights, as you say you do, then you SHOULD care if he's vindictive towards an entire group because many in that group were angry at him. If you actually believe in civil rights - or human rights - you support them because it's the right thing to do - period. You don't pull back because you think the group is unappreciative. That's everything Obama has clearly been against all along. If he can forgive Lieberman - who didn't deserve any sympathy - he certainly should be forgiving of the anger directed at him by a group that has been denied basic rights since time immemorial. If you actually have supported gay rights "for the last 20 years" you should have enough integrity to rethink your original statement - that you "wouldn't care" if he didn't lift a finger to help them.

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I would imagine that the vast majority of Obama's base consists of people who find homophobia repulsive.

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I wouldn't care if he doesn't move at all

Good for you!

Screw this reaching out stuff! Teach those ungrateful little jerks a lesson!

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That's an incredibly inconsiderate, thoughtless, just awful comment. I'm speechless.

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Clumsily phrased, yes.

Keep in mind, the great majority of Americans do not think, right now, that this is in any meaningful way "their question", and thus, don't much care. And judicial victories, while they bring short-term, near-field gains, rarely offer much in the way of persuasion to the disinterested. In fact, it's often to the contrary.

Legislative victories are different, being seen (rightly or wrongly) as much more organic - rather than imposed - and in this particular instance, an Obama executive order would simply end the charade quickly, much in the way Truman and Eisenhower ended military segregation, as Jason mentions below.

Note also that it is far easier to lead than to push. And consider that in the light of my first graf - what is called for here is persuading more Americans that this is in fact one of their questions.

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Thanks for replying. You made good points from "Keep ... questions" and I mostly agree, in fact. However, my reaction above was not about the method to take or the status-quo to tackle to effectively achieve the real goal here (which the whole discussion should be about, I know); it was about the comment that essentially says "make them pay!"

But I appreciate your reply. Thanks.

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That's what politics is asshole~ you make your point and the other guy makes his point. Telling gays to sit down and shut up is just more hate piled on more disrespect ... typical comment from the resident hater.

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You're the illiterate asshole. Nowhere did I say sit down or shut up. I said stop alienating your allies with this "you're either with us or against us" bullshit. I rejected that from the Bush administration and I reject it from the gay community.

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That's POLITICS! You speak up for yourself and everyone else speaks up for themselves! That is how it all gets sorted out. Telling one group to shut up or you will "teach them a lesson" just reflects your DEEP BIGOTRY. Haven't we had enough hate without you piling on?

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You're an idiot and an asshole. That may be politics but it's LOSING politics.

It's one thing to make your case about Warren. It's quite another to call Obama a bigot and a homophobe because he disagrees with you. It's another to call Melissa Ethridge a traitor because she disagrees with you.

Here's news: many in the gay community disagree with you, too. Are they bigots, too? Are they homophobes?

You think your hateful words toward straight people are acceptable?

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I haven't read anywhere that ALL gays think Obama is a bigot or called him a bad name ... oooohh .... and they ALL need to be punished? What fucking logic is that?

What amazes me is that you lump everyone together in a big pile of "THOSE PEOPLE" and then proudly state you do not care about any principles of equality (DOMA, DADT) because someone called Obama a name. "THOSE PEEOPLE" need to be taught a lesson alright .... not to pay any attention to someone as shallow and petty as you when it comes to constitutional rights.

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Talk about "lumping" you're the one who's lumping anyone who disagrees with you as a bigot. You're good at making the "with us or against us" argument.

Wonder what would have happened if MLK had starting calling LBJ a racist asshole? I bet LBJ would have cleared heaven and earth to pass the Civil Rights and Voting Rights bills if King had just insulted him more.

But no worry. Since you're convinced Hillary would have been much better to the gay community than that homophobe Obama who invited a hateful bigot to pray for him, I'm sure you can wait until she's inaugurated.


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Yeah, we really need to be put in our place. We really need to grow up because we've taken legitimate exception to a less than well-advised choice. Fuck off.

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There you go. Lying and conflating. I'm not angry about gays wanting equality. I've supported that for 20 years. I'm angry because you're trashing good, loving supportive people simply because they don't think Rick Warren should be lynched. If you think you can do this repeatedly and they'll still support you, you're a moron.

I don't take kindly to being called a bigot and a homophobe by people with whom I've stood on every civil rights cause for the past 20 years. But that's what has happened.

Obama has not changed one position but he's been villified by many in the gay community as a bigot, a coward and a homophobe. No one is immune. Even Melissa Ethridge was called a traitor and a collaborator and a sell-out because she defended Warren.

So, yeah. If Obama is such a disgusting piece of shit, as many, claim, I hope he doesn't spend one ounce of political capital to do a damn thing for the gay community. And the next time an anti-gay proposal is on the ballot, I hope every one of those "bigoted homophobes" who voted against them in the past will now support them 100%.

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Your comment was indefensible.

You can blame it on any one you want, but you made it.

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You act as if I'm trying to back away from what I said. I'm not.

I stand by what I said and I'll say it again: Given the hateful things said by many in the gay community about anyone who disagrees with them on the Warren matter, especially Obama, I don't care if Obama does anything to repeal DOMA or DADT.

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I think just like Freerider .... let's repeal civil rights for blacks because some blacks call jews bad names. Let's repeal civil rights for hispanics because more voted for Bush in 2004 than 2000. Let's repeal civil rights for women because some think men stink!

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Since your arguments range from "you're a bigot" to "you're a hate" to "you're a homophobe", you're way out of your league here.

You're making an enemy of the man who has the power to (and has said he would) sign legislation to end discrimination based on sexual orientation. And you think this is good politics?

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Obama SAYS he is against gay marriage. What am I suppose to think? He is lying to curry favor with bigots? He really does think I am second class to him and his wife?

I think he probably really is in favor of full equality but just is afraid to say so because it will cost him votes and support with the right wingers and other bigoted blacks. That is a pretty cold tactical thing to do. I understand it but it still pisses me off and I have a right and an obligation to say loud and clear I think he is WRONG on this issue. That is how politics works. That is how progress is made.

If freerider wants to scream like a little bitch everytime someone disagrees with his PRECIOUS..... it is going to be a long 8 years.

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One has nothing to do with the other. He should repeal DODT and support gay rights because it's the right thing to do, not because of political support or lack of support among gays (and how unfairly generalizing can we get by defining all members of a group this way?)

Blacks voted heavily for Prop 8. Would it, following your view, be appropriate for gays to be against legislation that was good for African Americans? I doubt you'd think so.

Fortunately Obama has shown himself to be far more decent and reasonable and forgiving than the mentality you're showing in your comments. We're very lucky to have him as our president.


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Obama has been decent and fair. That's why it's disgusting to have him labeled a homophobe and a bigot.

Alienating and demeaning the most pro-gay president in history by calling him a coward and a bigot is as hateful and unfair as anything I've seen from Rick Warren.

I could understand if he said "hey, I've got better ways to spend my time."

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So you're simultaneously saying that Obama is the most pro-gay president in history, AND that Obama will punish gays by withholding civil rights as retribution for some petty PR slight.

I do not think it is possible for these two thoughts to sanely coexist.

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Why is is that no one here can read? I didn't say that Obama will punish gays. I said that (a) trashing him *could* alienate him and push these issues to the back burner and (b) given the level of vitrol and hateful things that have been said about him and anyone who disagrees about Warren, I personally don't care if Obama addresses these issues or not.

I won't do anything to hurt the cause of gay equality but I won't do anything to help it either. Nothing. If a measure like Prop 8 ever appears on my ballot, I won't vote for it but I'll leave it blank instead of voting against it. The hatred, intolerance and "with us or against us" rhetoric has completely turned me off. Read the comments at HuffPo and you'll see I'm far from alone.

Lest you say I never was a supporter of gay equaity, you can find my comments here from 6-12 months ago to see where I stood.

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I can read fine: "I wouldn't care if he doesn't move at all. Maybe it will teach them..."

My point is that your point is misguided at best. If you support gay rights, as you say you do, then you SHOULD care if he's vindictive towards an entire group because many in that group were angry at him. If you actually believe in civil rights - or human rights - you support them because it's the right thing to do - period. You don't pull back because you think the group is unappreciative. That's everything Obama has clearly been against all along. If he can forgive Lieberman - who didn't deserve any sympathy - he certainly should be forgiving of the anger directed at him by a group that has been denied basic rights since time immemorial. If you actually have supported gay rights "for the last 20 years" you should have enough integrity to rethink your original statement - that you "wouldn't care" if he didn't lift a finger to help them.

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You act as if gays are entitled to be assholes toward good, loving people because they've been discriminated against. That's ridiculous. I've seen a very, very ugly side of the gay community over the past week. The same people who have been the object of hatred and bigotry are quick to turn the nasty vitrol on others.

I don't agree with the way they've gone after Warren, although I can understand it on some level. But there is ZERO excuse for the things they've said about Obama and Melissa Ethridge and anybody else who dared disagree with their Warren lynch mob. Being angry at Obama is a far cry from calling him bigot, coward, homophobe. This is no different from the wingnuts who said he agreed with Ayers simply because they served on the board together.

While they ask for tolerance and acceptance, they have demonstrated that they will not tolerate or accept anyone who disagrees with them. Sorry. Not me. Not any more. I've got plenty of things I care about that are worth my time. If I'd wanted to advocate for a group of intolerant jerks, I'd be a Republican.

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Listen pissant, freerider, shit-for-brains, whatever you call yourself .....

IF OBAMA INVITED A PREACHER OF SOME SORT TO OPEN HIS INAUGURATION WHO WAS COMPLETELY AGAINST INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE I WOULD SAY HE WAS REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE HE PERSONALLY DISAGREES WITH. HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT OF COURSE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE IF NOT HUMILIATING FOR HIM AND HIS WIFE AND THEIR ENTIRE FAMILY. IT IS A LOT EASIER TO THROW THE DIGNITY OF GAY AMERICANS UNDER THE BUS.... TO KISS A LITTLE RIGHT WING ASS .... WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

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Just because you type in caps doesn't make it mean more. You're trying to make this about Rick Warren but this is about how you've treated your long term friends who disagree with you on this issue. And it ain't pretty. I've seen a vile, nasty side of the gay community and I'm done.

If Obama gets around to your issues in December 2016, he's a very, very generous man.

Feel free to post and rant as much as you want. I won't be reading or responding because, frankly Scarlett, I don't give damn!

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Everyone is entitled to be a jerk sometimes, including you. No one should be condemned to an eternity of being reviled for acting like jerks for the period of a week. You are acting like an intolerant Republican. They vilify blacks for rejecting them, you vilify gays. Same thing.

We all act like jerks sometimes. We all need to be forgiven sometimes. You should learn how to do it, as we all should. Me too.

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I'm with Freerider. All throughout American history there have been whiners and complainers. The blacks! Indians! Women! And now the gays! "Boo hoo, I'm a slave! Boo hoo, you took my land away and put me on reservations! Boo hoo, you get to marry and I can't! Boo hoo, I have to tolerate and respect the opinions of people who are actively seeking to persecute me because of my sexual orientation. Waah waaah waahh."

God, I am so sick of all the complaining! You'll get what you want, like rights and stuff, when the people in charge decide that it's time for you to get it. In the mean time, say nothing and JUST STOP COMPLAINING because you're ANNOYING ME.

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If that's what you think, then you are NOT with me! You're an asshole who lacks comprehension skills. My comments weren't about "whining"; they were about attacking people unfairly simply because they disagree about Rick Warren.

FYI, agitating for equal treatment is not "whining"; having a two-week hissy fit over who's giving a 2 minute invocation is.

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All I have to say is that after the choice of Rick Warren, Obama needs to end DADT in 2009 if he wants to win back the hearts of the progressive left.

You can't call yourself a "fierce advocate of equality" and leave DADT in place.

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I don't speak for anyone else, but both ENDA and repealing DOMA are much more important to me from a gay rights policy perspective than DADT.

(Of course, passing ENDA by itself is not impressive considering it basically would have passed last year if not for a presidential veto threat... and DADT will probably become a much bigger deal quickly if Obama follows through on plans to dramatically increase the size of the standing army.)

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Allowing gays to serve openly in the military should and will be done by the first year and a half of the presidency. What I have read in other articles, is that Obama plans to insert the changes as part of a larger bill on military restructuring. This seems very smart to me, as it gives the Democrats from more conservative districts "cover" in their votes.

DADT is bad policy and even most of America thinks gays should be able to serve. I spoke with an ex-military guy at a holiday party who said the military code is very complicated and explicitly says that homosexuality is a crime as well as limits the sexual conduct of all the straight people as well. Figuring out how to change all this stuff including a very conservative military culture will take time. And it never hurts to pressure Obama and Congress to get thinks like this done.

Congressional Dems need to be kicked in the pants. They could get a lot of laws through on all kinds of issues, including gay civil rights, and I have no doubt Obama will sign them, but it doesn't seem like they want to. Most of them seem lazy and timid. It makes me wonder why they are even in Congress.

I think Obama told us his priorities fairly honestly in the campaign: the economy, foreign policy, green energy, and health care. I didn't vote for him thinking he was Harvey Milk, MLK Jr., Gloria Steinem or Malcolm X. As president he will focus most often on the big picture stuff.

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I think democrats will be surprised when Barack Obama repeals DADT by executive order almost immediately. It is a move supported by many military commanders and won't cost him a thing. No more than desegregating the military hurt Truman and Ike. People don't know the military very well if they think most will do anything other than snap off a crisp salute and carry on smartly.

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Here's hoping. The more Obama can bypass Congress (with a Dem caucus only slightly less lickspittle than the last Congress), the more time he'll save. Harry Reid will be Obama's biggest road block for the next two years, more so than McConnell.

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Harry Reid will be Obama's biggest road block for the next two years

And isn't this depressing? I've read that Reid is supposedly very effective behind the scenes, but it's hard to see why, or even if, that's the case.

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I think I seem to have seen the opposite is the case. Which is not exceedingly encouraging...

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Gay marriage and "don't ask, don't tell" need to be in the same national conversation. The issue is the same in both instances; should gay Americans be given the rights afforded to straight Americans?

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Gay marriage and "don't ask, don't tell" need to be in the same national conversation. The question is the same in both instances; should gay Americans be given the rights afforded to straight Americans?

There is nothing more important than ensuring the rights of American citizens. So no, I don't think "don't ask, don't tell" should be moved to the back burner.

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Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been framed wrong since it's inception. It's not a gay rights issue so much as it is a national security issue.

Translators, especially Arabic translators, are pouring out of the military and are in desperately short supply, yet we're discharging Arabic translators that want to stay in the military because they're gay.

That means that the defacto United States policy is that we'd rather be killed by terrorists that speak Arabic than be saved by a gay person.

Whether Don't Ask Don't Tell is a violation of gay rights or is immoral is completely irrelevant, because before it's any of those things, it's completely idiotic.

Don't Ask Don't Tell should be scrapped immediately in the interests of national security. And this whole "these things take time and must be handled delicately" business is a bunch of crap. Is he the effing Commander in Chief or not? Issue the order and Court Martial anyone who refuses to follow it.

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I can understand the attitudes of both hollywood and freerider - it is a shock to see someone such as Warren awarded a prominent position at the Inaugeration. That move, while consistent with Mr. Obama's standard mode of operations; ie, maintain contacts with people you don't necessarily agree with, it does leave a bad impression (to say the least) among those affected by Mr. Warren's less-than-Christian rhetoric. Immediate repeal of DADT would ameliorate that impression.
Personally, I think the repeal of DADT would have more of an impact than many realize - as it would signal the recognition by what is considered the most conservative bastion in the Federal government that being gay is not a "perversion" and is fully consistent with service in any part of the military.
And there is also the point that, with the Federal government officially taking the stand that there is nothing incompatible with being actively gay and serving in the military, one more right-wing "talking point" (sorry about that) will have been removed.
And I do think that, while the guilt-by-association argument against Mr. Obama may be understandable, is will do nothing to further equal civil rights for gays, whether in or out of the military.

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Wanna make this headline universally applicable? Just delete the last five words.

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What doesn't make sense to me is a statement like the following:

“It ought to be re-examined and it ought to be on the agenda, but it shouldn’t be very high on the agenda,” Levin said. “There are just too many other more important things to do."

Since when is the government restricted to doing only one thing at a time? How does the presence of other non-exclusive priorities somehow conflict with the ability to end DADT? This line of thinking, that there are "other, more important things to do" seems like a really poor smokescreen for saying "I don't think the gays should be so uppity".

Pointing to the Clinton administration's difficulty after repealing the gay service ban may be part of the argument against getting rid of DADT right away, but it's the start of the conversation, not the end. A hell of a lot has changed in 15 years.

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Those really should've been two separate posts because the point about Clinton's DADT experience isn't really meant to come off as the logical conclusion or follow-up of the statement that came before it.

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I suppose it wouldn't make sense if you didn't know anything about politics. Political capital is a very real thing. And in many cases, high profile issues really CAN only be dealt with: i.e. campaigned for and fought for in the media, a few at a time. When it comes to these big ticket issues, it really does make sense to think strategically. Obama needs to score a big easy, broad win on a major economic issue before anything else is on the table or pulling attention elsewhere. The repeal of DADT and DOMA are pretty much what I hope for most in the way of major changes to the country in the Obama administration. But I recognize that those efforts are far more likely to be successful if they come at the right time, with the right political capital built up. From what I know of the overall gameplans being tossed around, DADT comes first, and it gets folded in with a more general big debate about rethinking and reorganizing the military. And that whole stage of policy push comes later on, not right away.

Virtually every group wants their pet cause to be the top item on the agenda, or else they scream bloody murder. But the reality is that being smart about which comes before which makes a big difference in how successful these efforts are.

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"coward, a bigot, a homophobe, a traitor"

Sums up the celebtity pick for me.

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"the defacto United States policy is that we'd rather be killed by terrorists that speak Arabic than be saved by a gay person"

- Unless of course, it happens to be an IRANIAN gay.


Those and extreme flamers, are the only ones tolerated by bigots, traitors, and cowards.

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It is absolutely ridiculous to lump together some angry posts by gay posters on certain liberal blogs and make assumptions about all gay people. It's even worse to make a verdict on the status of their civil rights struggle.

I can only speak for myself. I am saddened and disappoineted by Obama's pick of Warren for the invocation. Though I understand his inclusive intentions, I found this to be insensitive and a bit tone-deaf in the wake of the passage of Prop 8. I had hoped that his inauguration would be a moment for all of America to celebrate his glorious victory. And yes, that includes people who don't agree with him and his supporters. But I can't help but feel alienated by Warren's presence primarily because he was at the forefront of the effort to deny me my civil rights.

Does this mean that I think Obama is a "bigot" or a "homophobe"? Absolutely NOT. But I feel a bit nervous about his commitment to LGBT rights. It does seem disingenuous of him to claim to be a "fierce advocate" for LGBT rights when he has openly said that he does not favor gay marriage and then has someone who equates homosexuality with pedophilia and polygamy give the invocation at his inauguration.

I think the true measure will be in the actual policies. If he is able to end DADT and sign ENDA, then that will show that he is serious. I just hope that he doesn't cave into the Republicans' bullying the way that Clinton did. I really hope that he can maintain a balance of principle and pragmatism. That is why I supported him and gave his campaign money and proudly voted for him. I still know in my heart that he will be a good president and will set this country back on the course toward progress.

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Well, I think the Warren pick was a perfect issue to make a better connection with, not the base or his campaigners like us or *his* voters, but the electorate. Somebody wrote on here that most Americans merely tolerate the whole gay issue and are a little bit uncomfortable with it, whether that offends people or not.

Warren makes for a good way to connect with a majority of *voters*. Unlike Clinton, I don't think Barack's going to walk into this buzzsaw. Clinton's first two years were disaterous and led to the Gingrich Revolution in 1994. His self-inflicted wounds on this issue were part of that.

I also think this issue is a perfect one to put before a long term blue ribbon panel, with a report-out date no earlier than 2013. There'd be a shitload of longitudinal studies and whater the hell that couldn't be finished till at least then.

Does this post piss people off? It's nothing personal. My loyalty is to Obama and USA, not this issue.

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There is a strategically correct way to go about this," said Luna. "This policy has been in place for a number of years. It's not going to be repealed overnight."

Of course not, because that would be, you know, change. I don't know where anyone got the idea that this administration might be interested in change.

Besides, changing the policy would enhance America's military effectiveness, save money, and help win the war on terror, but, on the downside, bigots might not like it.

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Obama opposes DADT because it places bigotry over national security. It enshrines homophobia as a Policy, without regard for the damage it does to the morale, readiness or integrity of the military. He has repeatedly said that he will support its repeal.

I am Utterly Unclear as to why Freerider thinks that Obama should punish LGBT persons by doing something that HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO. That would seem to punish Himself. All other blather from Freerider misunderstands this basic point.

To other posters - It is not clear that Obama would be able to change DADT through executive action. That was the approach that Clinton took, and while public and military opinion have changed drastically since 1993, the reaction to Clinton's initial approach was for Congress to pass legislation that mandated DADT, which would make it very difficult to change through executive action alone. Which is why Democratic leadership in the congress is important to make this change, which is why the reluctance of Democratic leaders to place this on the agenda is critical.

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