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Coleman Campaign Rejects Election Official's Ballot

Norm Coleman's efforts to win the Minnesota recount really have turned into a total farce: The Star Tribune reports that the Coleman campaign has objected to counting of a particular absentee ballot envelope -- which just so happens to be the vote of a local election official.

"I'm an election judge," said Shirley Graham, who hails from the Democratic stronghold of Duluth. "I expected to be the last person whose ballot wouldn't be counted."

The campaign might end up changing their mind, though, on whether this ballot was improperly rejected -- Graham also told the Star Tribune that she voted for Coleman.


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What would be comical was if the Coleman camp changed their mind on the ballot, ripped it open and in the end, only to find out Graham voted for Franken.

And with a wink Graham exclaimed "Gotcha!"

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i think that if i were the frankin campaign and coleman reversed there decision on this ballot, I would reject it because it is no longer a secret ballot now that she has publicly declared who the vote is for. They have already rejected lots of ballots for people signing them.

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The Minnesota statute says a ballot has to be rejected for identifying marks.

It doesn't say that people can't declare which candidates they voted for.

I think the statute should be changed to allow identifying marks. I don't think anyone who signed a ballot in this Minnesota election had criminal intent. I think they just wanted to make sure the pen was working.

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The reason that signed or identifiable ballots are rejected in MN goes back many years to a time when politicians would pay people to vote for them. The voters would be asked to sign their ballots so that the crooked politician could verify that the voter had 'put out', so to speak, and the voter would be paid once their ballot was identified by the pol. Politics has been sleazy for a long long time.

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There's really nothing wrong with telling people who you voted for. That's not what "secret ballot" means.

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i would still reject it.
the campaigns have veto power. (dumb). if one or both campaigns xrayed each envelope (ie know what the vote is) before deciding to veto each ballot then we have found the stupidest way of running an election that is possible.

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or i would go to court to overturn coleman's rejection of this ballot and all other rejections.

again, could someone please come up with a dumber process?

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Gosh darn it, Norm Coleman sure is a lot funnier than Al Franken. Oh, and way sleazier.

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Which one is the "comic"? Between Palin and now Coleman, the GOP has to change their party's name to include some sort of comedian word in it.

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Grins On Parade?

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Yep, Graham has pretty much made a hash of her ballot and of the process.

The fine-grained nature of this process could end up coming into the court challenges -- both campaigns know the names on the absentee ballots, and although it would obviously be bad form to contact people and ask how they voted, it would be easy enough to look at other potential indicators of individual voting behavior when deciding whether to accept or reject a ballot. In addtion, in a fair number of jurisdictions there will be few enough additional absentee ballots counted that some people's votes could be revealed.

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Wouldn't this ballot have to be rejected now that she has disclosed the contents of the sealed envelope?

And for SqueakyRat; Coleman has made his argument for rejecting the ballot and cannot be allowed to change is mind now that he knows it's a vote for him.

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The term for this action, I believe, is "jumping the shark." Hopefully, it will be perceived as such by the people of Minnesota.

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The correct thing for Franken to do here is stand on principle. He should say, "I insist on counting this ballot even though I know that it is a vote against me, and I also insist on counting all the other ballots that have been improperly rejected."

The math works entirely in his favor - one step backward, two steps forth. And, he looks like the good guy for taking the high road. And, it's the right thing to do.

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Just so it isn't missed, may I point out that the only reason we heard this story is that the Minnesota recount process is incredibly transparent. We're getting bashed for the process being prolonged and chaotic. It's prolonged, but that's to stop the chaos. Other states have the machines recount, make the same errors, and spend time fighting over whether to have a hand recount.

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This has probably been the most thorough, diligently conducted, transparent recount in American electoral history. And Slimy Norman is going to lose when it ends.

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The only good thing to be said about Spiny Norman was that he was an effective check on Dinsdale.

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Is Coleman going to steal the election right in front of Franken?

Because of a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling, for an absentee vote to be counted both candidates must agree that it be counted. Al is a good honest guy and wants all the votes counted, as they should be.

Coleman is a snake and only wants the votes for himself counted. So today, Coleman is getting his votes in because Al agreed with all votes being counted. Franken isn't getting his votes counted because Coleman objects to them. So if it goes on this way, Colemen will probably win.

I don't want Al to stand there and take this. Somebody has to go to court or stop this now.

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It's not really accurate to refer to a Minnesota election judge as an "election official." Election judges are simply volunteers who run the polls on election day.

The reason many election judges vote absentee is that they frequently are assigned to precincts other than their own.

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Election judges are election officials whether they are paid or not.

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Yeah, and I'd say they "officiate" more than they "judge" anyway, so election official is an accurate description.

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I have a question.

Since this person chose to reveal what their vote was BEFORE IT WAS DETERMINED WHETHER TO COUNT IT OR NOT, does that not AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFY IT?

I thought they were NOT supposed to know the content of the ballot until AFTER it was determined whether to count it or not.

So in disclosing what is supposed to be privileged information, did she not just automatically render her vote 'invalid'?

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Colemans next step:

SUE EVERYONE!!

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Both camps are full of national political pros.

It seems to me, though, that Coleman is playing the Al Gore recount method (i.e. "I want a recount of only these two counties."). Folks that are following it -- even those who support Coleman -- are starting to understand what's going on here. If we know that state officials identified over 1300 absentee ballots that were improperly rejected, why not count all 1,300 ballots? Why is this so difficult? And, most importantly, why do the campaigns get to decide if absentees should be counted -- and not the election officials?

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And, most importantly, why do the campaigns get to decide if absentees should be counted -- and not the election officials?

Everybody has to agree, the two campaigns, and the local election officials because the MN Supreme Court decided to punt.

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