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Poll: Obama's Election Improves African-Americans' Views Of America
A new Rasmussen poll suggests that Barack Obama's election has had an immediate impact on race relations, with a dramatic upswing in the percentage of African-Americans who have a positive view of America.
The poll shows 42% of black voters saying that American society is fair and decent, a significant increase from the 24% who said the same thing only a month ago. The poll also has a 46% plurality saying society is still unfair and discriminatory, but that's way down from the 64% who expressed this view a month ago.
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That's a huge swing in opinion. LOL!
I couldn't be happier but I do have to laugh a little - I know very well that there were many who thought right up to the time it was announced that white Americans just wouldn't do it - I heard it said enough.
So I get a bit of a kick out of this - I've said it before, but it's the like the mirror image of the end of NWA's 100 Miles and Running - "Surprise!"
heh! God I like liking us.
November 10, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama may be president but we still have a long way to go in this country. Just because Obama won, lets not forget while on the campaign trail some idiots wouldn't even shake Obama's hand, and lets not forget that Muslims aren't necessarily riding Americas new-found the racial tolerance wave.
This would not have been an overwhelming win if McCain didn't put Palin on the ticket. And lets not forget us young voters who turned out big for Obama. Other then that, America has always been a good country and we always surprise the world. Im happy that people are having a better view of their country, because if everyone one is happy then America is better off. This does show a lot of progress in America. I was going to say something else but I forgot...
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November 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
O you mean everything isn't fixed? Ah darn it.
LOL
I know we do but this helped.
November 10, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Before the election, I was listening a middle-aged black man where I work state there was no way whites were going to elect a black man as President. I saw him a few days ago, busy working, but with a big grin on his face! I think we proved him to be wrong and he was quite happy for the lesson. Perhaps he'll make an earnest effort to vote in 2012.
November 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I bet about 80% of the U.S. got proven wrong.
November 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hope awakening does this all of the time....
November 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like I said before, I still don't trust whitey :)
Seriously, the danger is that asshats (like Bill Bennett) will take Barack Obama's impressive personal achievement resident and extrapolate that to mean no more excuses black people! They fail to take full account of the very real lack of opportunity that many African Americans still face. They'll use this to argue that we don't need Affirmative Action anymore.
Though this is a great symbolic accomplishment in terms of race relations, it does not change that we have seperate and unequal educational opportunities (based on the wealth of your school district, which disproportionally impacts minorities) or racial profiling by law enforcement or inadequate access to healthcare etc. etc. etc.
November 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it's any comfort to you, within 10 to 15 years, Latino's will be in the majority.
November 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure if you were just trying to be funny, but if you're being serious, non-Latino whites are expected to be in the majority until about 2050. Even then, they'll still be in the plurality for a while.
November 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Read somewhere on-line a few weeks back. Didn't save the source, sorry.
November 10, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
LATimes is the source in August, but I remember seeing something that stated sooner than 2050 and 2040 that most MSM are using.
November 10, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it's any further comfort, they already outnumber African Americans in Texas.
They are on the verge of being the majority if they aren't already.
But in the meantime, since I elected this guy too, I like feeling good about myself and this country and Americans for awhile. I like getting credit for not being a racist.
Frankly.
LOL!
November 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone who claims they are in no way racist is a liar.
But then you said you just like getting credit for not being one, not that are you are not actually racist.
November 10, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
We've had this conversation. In fact I had it with Weaver.
We all are imprinted with things that influenced us before we were old enough to know what was going on and yes, I was raised in the segregated south and yes I have had an unconscious imprint that somehow African Americans are different than me - I just liked the kind of different.
I happen to know for a fact that I'm not different because I happen to know I'm about 1/16th African.
I don't think I am a racist anymore. I think I did face my imprinting, when I found out about my genetic history I felt a final unconscious barrier inside me dissolve.
You can draw your own conclusions about what I am or am not - I really don't care. I don't make claims for anything other than this - what differences there are are cultural and I like diversity so yeah, black culture is different. I happen to like it - and I don't think anyone will try to contend that black culture isn't different than white culture in America. But that is changing, too. Very very much.
November 10, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I couldn't agree with you more the Wall Street Journal jumped on this the day after the election:
"We have had in recent years two black Secretaries of State, black CEOs of our largest corporations, black Governors and Generals -- and now we will have a President. One promise of his victory is that perhaps we can put to rest the myth of racism as a barrier to achievement in this splendid country. Mr. Obama has a special obligation to help do so."
November 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign. As teemunney points out below, the attacks have already started - not directly on Obama, but as cowards always do, on the unprotected and undefended.
November 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign.
It's already starting.
November 10, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
True dat! But today, we celebrate, so let all haters sulk beneath our feet, while we "happy dance"!
November 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
They will Djamo - that's guaranteed. But so what else is new?
November 10, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Affirmative action is dead, dead, dead.
November 10, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
In your dreams.
November 10, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well I don't understand why, but Obama was rejected when he applied to be in a pin-up calendar during his Harvard days (and 49 other facts the public may not already know):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3401168/Barack-Obama-The-50-facts-you-might-not-know.html
November 10, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
He doesn't drink coffee and rarely drinks alcohol
So much for my chances to be President.
:-P
November 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is left-handed -- the sixth post-war president to be left-handed
Very sinister. That's very much appreciated here on the Left Coast.
November 10, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
We, too, shall overcome.
November 10, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to put a damper on the symbolic power of Obama's victory, but I was pretty sobered to see white voters still broke down heavily for McCain, 55% to 43%. On the other hand, that's virtually the same as Kerry in '04 and Gore in '00. The difference was minorities making their voices heard and being represented.
November 10, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I"m sorry, but I really want to enjoy seeing white people get some credit for a change and I really resent the hell out of your comment right now.
Dayum.
November 10, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
For the first time, they are proud of their country.
November 10, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know about anyone else, but I"m prouder than I've ever been of this country.
And there is nothing wrong with that - I'm not proud of people I love when they do things that I think are wrong. Why should I be proud of a country when it does things I think are wrong?
November 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would say everyone has a right to be proud right now. We chose hope and reason over fear and ignorance. This election was about much more than race. We already know that this will improve race relations, but it certainly won't solve all our racial problems. And I'm not sure it means that affirmative action is not needed anymore. Perhaps it merely suggests that it works.
For anyone who hasn't yet, I highly recommend reading Obama's Dreams from My Father. The entire book is a both a meditation on these themes -- what is racial identity, how does it shape our view of society, how does that view shape the choices we make -- as well as a memoir of Obama's personal life (which I found to be quite honest since it was written in 1994, before he entered politics).
But to return to the issue at hand, does this mean racism is over? Of course not. But is it a step in the right direction. Absolutely. Just look at the poll, the numbers speak for themselves.
November 10, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign.
And I like celebrating the fact that we took a giant step forward - especially a giant step out of the horror and suspicion and meanness of the last 8 to 12 years.
November 10, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
On election night, after Pennsylvania was called for Obama, I phoned a friend of mine and asked him if he wanted to go out for a celebratory beer. He said, "Are you kidding? This thing is far from over." I just laughed. Then I said, "Well, it IS over, but OK, call me back when Ohio is in, if it makes you feel better." So he called me back when Ohio was in and said, "Let's go get that beer."
We went down to the local watering hole, and the place was FULL of people. It's kind of a sports bar, where they serve pizza and buffalo wings and shit like that. As usual, it was full of rowdy jocks and representatives of the local hipoisie. Anyway, when Obama finally came on to give his acceptance speech, the bar went dead silent. It was really quite a moment. I looked up and down the bar while Obama was speaking, and there wasn't a dry eye in the house. When Obama finished, the place went wild. I got drunk as hell and went home.
So Thursday night, I met a few of my friends at the same bar, and HOLY SHIT--the place was full of African-Americans. Just packed with black people. I've never seen anything like it in this particular bar before. And they were talking and they were happy and they were striking up conversations with everyone and EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED. It's like a nightmare is over. The fever broke. And goddamnit, am I ever happy to be alive and for the first time in my adult life, I'm truly proud to be an American.
November 10, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a lovely story. It makes me sad to think (even though I know it's true) that some, or many, African Americans haven't felt that they were truly a part of this country before now. But it makes me very, very happy to think that, from this point forward, maybe they will.
November 10, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
O my god you're making me cry for real.
I didn't expect this but I love it so much. So much.
Sometimes I hate putting this much on Obama but I swear, he walked into this with his eyes open and he knew what this would mean. What is so amazing is that he did this knowingly, he's aware of the effect, but he has never had and doesn't have delusions of grandeur. He may be one of our sanest presidents.
November 10, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've always said that the greatest revenge is to be a better person than your enemy. And Barack Obama is a better person. He chose to be who he is. And, white or black or Latino or Asian or gay or straight or whatever, Barack Obama chose something so simple that it's almost written off as insignificant: he chose dignity. And we should all choose dignity. And maybe we will.
I have no doubt, and I have never had any doubt, that Barack Hussein Obama will go down in history as one of America's greatest presidents. And it will be because he chose dignity--not just for himself, but for all of us.
November 10, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't sure whites would vote for a black man but they did, in record numbers. I was also glad to hear that the blacks turned out in numbers, standing in lines for 2 - 3 hours. And the young people turned out. Actually, 62,450,831 turned out to vote for Obama.
As far as I'm concerned the electorate reflected the choice of the people more this time than it did for Al Gore, who won the popular vote and lost by only a few hundred votes that would've been reversed with a recount.
People got involved in the whole process. Obama's campaign was financed by small donations from millions of people. Volunteers were everywhere working for the cause. People were making phone calls from their homes into key states. People were writing commentaries to clarify the McCain/Palin accusations that were untrue and raising fear among undecideds. We all did our part and definitely participated in a true democratic process. We succeeded in change by working together. My spirits are therefore hightened from all of this and I have a new belief in people. We can do it. I just hope people continue to be involved in what happens next.
November 10, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe this is the first step in eliminating terms such as "African American", "Asian American", Hispanic American" etc, and just start referring to ourselves as American. I'm envious of people who have a defined ethnic/racial heritage (my ancestors came over here in the 1620s and helped establish Rehoboth MA--Obama thinks HE's a mutt? HA!) but it's time to transcend the labels, with the possible exception of "Native American".
November 10, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with your point about Native Americans--this is their country, and our grandfathers were motherfuckers to steal it from them.
And Obama is right: we're all mutts. I'm Beligian-American, Swedish-American and German-American. I've never thought my ancestry had any meaning or value. The difference between me and President Obama is that no one can tell from the color of my skin where my European ancestors came from, and no one can tell from the color of Obama's skin where his African ancestors came from. Maybe they're from Kenya. Maybe they're from Nigeria. Maybe they're fromn Ethiopia. Who the hell cares?
Brown is the new Black. Pink is the new White. None of it matters. It just doesn't matter any more. Barack Obama is our President because he was the best-qualified candidate. Skin is skin. Skin doesn't matter. We're Americans. We fuckin' rock.
November 10, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
White people have been nicer to me....
Just being honest.
November 11, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just on the original post: That shit is INSANE! Numbers like that represent the potential of a revolution in the the way society works. That's if they hold up, which of course they're not likely to. But if they did...wow. That's brand new world shit -- not messin' 'round!
November 11, 2008 2:40 AM | Reply | Permalink