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Poll: Obama Has Banked Big Lead In Early Vote

With early voting now coming to an end, a new CBS poll finds that Barack Obama has already banked a massive lead going into Election Day, which John McCain will have a tough job overcoming.

The numbers: Among the subset of early voters, Obama has built up a lead of 57%-38%. Among all likely voters, including both the early vote and those people who haven't gone yet, it's 54%-41%.

With the common estimate being that roughly one third of all ballots cast this year will be early votes, this means McCain would have to win the the remaining votes on Election Day by a margin of nearly ten points just to eke out a narrow win in the overall popular vote.

It's possible for McCain to do this -- and the internals show that the early voters are disproportionately self-identified Democrats -- but it's definitely a tough job.


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All we have to do it get almost as many democrats and repug registers on election day.

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Possible?

Right...


John

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Charles Cook just conceded that he totally missed what has happened with Obama's candidacy.

"It's not a campaign. It's an IPO" referring to the amount raised

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THIS....

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CANT

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Indemnify

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I don't know if I like this information being out there so much. I would prefer if Democrats thought it was a lot closer. Not TPM's responsibility obviously but the chance that this sort of info might motivate Republicans and de-motivate Democrats is the one thing that's going to keep worrying me as election day creeps nearer.

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Don't worry. With attacks from Repugs growing stronger in the next three days, it will boost GOTV for us. Also, in swing states there are actually volunteers who'll not let up until almost every one votes.

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For what it's worth, I was out canvassing in Obama friendly St. Louis county and nobody I talked to sounded overly confident in the least. Nobody thought this was a done deal and most were still very nervous about the outcome.

From this small sample, I can tell you that complacency is not a problem.

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Mason, I volunteer in St Louis county as well (in Creve Coeur) and I know exactly what you mean, everyone feels like were behind and we need every single vote for us to win this thing.

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I'm sorry. I think the worry about complacency is silly. This (the most emailed article on nytimes.com today) explains why. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/us/politics/01angst.html?em
After losing two elections they felt they should have won, no group of people are more motivated than Democrats.

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I agree. I had a door to door Obama Camp. volunteer from California knock on my door today. She'd already covered all of El Prado.

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Hmm, well I've been making phone calls in rock-solid Dem country Massachusetts, and I'm not particularly pleased with the voters I'm reaching (using Democratic voter lists) outside Boston regarding their support for Obama.

Me no likey. This race is keeping me up nights. And if, after this stunt with Obama's elderly aunt about to be deported, McCain/Palin prevail on Tuesday, I'm looking for a new country. That's probably what they want, but it's something I'll be glad to give 'em.

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Or it will deflate/discourage Republicans from even bothering to stand in line for an hour+ to vote feeling that Obama has it wrapped up - the psychology cuts both ways.

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Good point.

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More likely, I think.

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I agree -- when just 13% of McScum supporters say they are excited (per AP) -- unless they kidnap people to vote for him.

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Excellent point, Jonzie.

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And the Republicans apparently are worried it will cut them at least as deeply. Otherwise, I don't think they'd be trying so desperately to convince the media that the race is tightening and Obama's "trying to find" 270.

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How postive of you Jonze! Way to go!

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Or it may make people more fired up! And ready to go out and vote!

Actually, I doubt these numbers will get played up by the cable networks -- certainly not as much as the Zogby one-day aberration was this morning. They want people to think the race is down to the wire, after all.

And, less cynically, the nets are going to be cautious about jumping to conclusions because this election has more wild cards than usual. There's the difficulty of predicting just how massive turnout will be, how many young people will actually show, whether there will be a Bradley effect, whether there will be a reverse Bradley effect (Reagan Dems and others who break for Obama). Even come Tuesday night, the nets may take a bit longer than usual to make their state calls.

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For what it's worth, I'm pretty damn confident that Obama is going to win, and I also live in a completely safe blue state (CA), but yet there's "no power in the 'verse" that can stop me from voting for Obama come this Tuesday! Quite frankly, I'm ecstatic about the prospect of finally--FINALLY!--having my voice heard, and I suspect my sentiments can be echoed by countless other Bush-weary Democrats.

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Yup. I'm in similarly blue country here in CT, but I have never been so excited to cast a vote in my entire life.

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Anything is theoretically "possible," but at this point there's no *evidence* to show it is at all likely to happen. The polls would all have to be dramatically incorrect, meaning that everyone overestimated the turnout among new voters (belied by the apparently HUGE turnout so far), and a bunch of people lied to pollsters. Possible? Sure. But it's better than 90-10 at this point. And, it is surely not excellent news for McCain.

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I agree. Every vote counts. We can't take the lead for granted. Every citizen must do their part and vote. Better to win by a landslide then lose by a small margin.

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Memo to Fred Barnes,

Re: Your rant about all those poor people voting early.

Don't trip on the steps on your way up the guillotine!

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No kidding. Could he sound any more prissy?

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No shit. That was one of the most pathetic, whiny rants I've heard. The gall. And, before it cut off, was the interviewer *agreeing*???

"Poor old people". Fuckwit.

Where can I get ahold of this stain?

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The interviewer is Mort Kondrake, the "liberal" of the two. Remember, FOX is fair and balanced. Mort is perhaps the biggest sell out in American journalism, he used to have something resembling a spine but now seems content to cash his checks from Rodger. He's a regular on the show along with Barnes (who's always been about as big a dick as you see in the video) and I find the arrangement even more pathetic than the dominant/submissive drama of H&C, not that I can stomaching watching any of it really but sometimes after a few drinks I give it a try.

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I can't say I'm very upset about people going on Fox News and telling their viewers to stay home.

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Good one.

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And It's possible, Eric, that I may still sprout wings and be crowned the Queen of the Fairies.

I think the universe is basically just possibilities on the quantum level. So on the quantum level, McLame might have a slightly better chance than a snowball in hell.

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My avatars got their wings, and I'd crown you Queen of the Fairies, if you'd really like that title...

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This damn fishing tournement is a boomerang, we have 60 people entered at $30 entry fee, we already have $1800 dollars from the Republicans, were thinking maybe we donate the proceeds to the Dem party!

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LOL!


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This damn fishing tournement is a boomerang, we have 60 people entered at $30 entry fee, we already have $1800 dollars from the Republicans, were thinking maybe we donate the proceeds to the Dem party!

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No Eric it isn't

It's possible for McCain to do this -- and the internals show that the early voters are disproportionately self-identified Democrats -- but it's definitely a tough job.
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Obama Galluping away. "Largest lead yet" now at 10 points, and probably will gain a point or two between now and Monday.

To our republican friends in Colorado, Nevada, and ARIZONA save your gas on Tuesday. Watch some tv instead, watch some early numbers from the east coast. Same to our republican friends in Montana, North, and South Dakota.

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I'd love to believe this poll, but its Party ID breakdown is as troubling as Zogby, just in the opposite direction.

They weighted Registered voters to:

375D 254R 291I

That's:

40.7% D
27.6% R
31.6% I

I'm sorry, but +13D is excessive.

If this poll had reasonable party ID weights, it would probably be +6 or +7 Obama, which is perfectly fine.


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But the universe of this poll is early voters, where those identified with Democrats dominate.

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Exactly. Kind of difficult to apply normal party ID weighting to a poll in which the party ID weighting is one of the unknowns for which you're polling.

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Uh, no, I'm referring to the overall poll numbers, not the early vote numbers.

I repeat, the weighted party ID for this poll (of all voters, not the early sample) is crazy biased to +D by 13.

Using a reasonable party ID weighting, you'd find Obama +7 or so, in the overall likely voter numbers.


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To help pass the time till Tuesday, there are some great Obama photos here if you haven't seen them:
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0810/callie-bp.html

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Ann, Great Photo Blog with plenty of pics. Thanks.

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OT......CNN reports that McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds has responded to Dick Cheney's endorsement of McCain-Palin, showing just how much they like Dick: "Barack Obama and Dick Cheney aren't just cousins; they've shared support for the Bush energy policy and the out-of-control spending that John McCain has fought to oppose."

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Yeah, some McCain hack was just on with David Schuster saying basically the same thing.

I think it's a little late in the game to be trying to make the case that Obama = Bush.

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And that's an incredibly stupid attempt. I don't see how it would've worked even if they had done so earlier.

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And that's an incredibly stupid attempt. I don't see how it could've worked even if they had done so earlier.

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Cousins? LMAO! Oh yeah, remind everyone that Obama is white too and comes from a good family...except the terrorist Cheney.

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Obama = Cheney. Good luck with that one, Tucker.

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You know, I though McCombover's "Look! Obama actually supports me!" advert was the last gasp of desperation.

But I forgot...every time McSlime reaches the bottom of the barrel, he gets a new, deeper barrel. Obama=Cheney...hahahaha...yeah, that's going to work.

See that tide going out, Tucker? That's you and the Repugs...and don't hold your breath waioting for it to come back in anytime soon.

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If Obama and Cheney are cousins, doesn't that make Obama a "real American"?

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We are pounding miles and miles of pavement in west central Florida this weekend to encourage people to take advantage of extended early voting. My canvassing buddy and I knocked on 111 doors today.

We came across two undecideds. One didn't know who Sarah Palin was. Go figure.

The massive turnout here is astonishing. All the parking spaces were taken at the courthouse and surrounding areas at 3:45 today. The place was packed. Closing time was 4:00.

The early voter stats look good. I'm cautiously optimistic.

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Good news, thanks much.

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Thanks for your work!

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Tena: I wanted you to check this out, and see what you think. I am dumbfounded, actually.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/rove-appointee-sends-ugly-message-wo

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Without knowing more, this is what I think:

"It's very unusual," says Scott Horton, a Columbia Law School professor who also writes for Harper's Magazine. "Basically, you have a US Attorney trotting out the sort of arguments that defense counsel makes on a plea for reduced sentencing."

And involuntary intoxication is not a defense to any crime - that's first year of law school shit.

Now, resuming my defense attorney role, I don't like inchoate offenses - they approach thought crimes. I find conspiracy problematical.

However, if I was an Asst. AG, I'd sure as shit charge them.

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Thanks.

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It's obviously political and obviously stinks.

I thought it was pretty breathtaking when the sitting president tried to wield the power of the Executive to try to effect an election.

I thought it was great when the DOJ said: No, don't think so.

This really stinks given the nature of the situation - the guy is an asshole and he's doing this for political reasons which makes me sick.


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I think you meant voluntary intoxication is not a defense?

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Yes. - thanks.

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It's a great way to work off all this anxiety.

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Where are you canvassing? A few days ago the numbers were about 50/50 for Dems and Republican early voting turnout in Sarasota County. Is it better where you are?

I was phonebanking for the I4 corridor today. Talked to some people who had early voted in central Florida. I think that's a good sign.

Thanks so much for the canvassing! The Palin story is hysterical.

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I'm canvassing in Pinellas. Our early voting numbers have been a bit low compared to other districts that offer an adequate number of early polling places. We have only three: two in mid-county and one in St. Pete.

As of last Tuesday more than twice as many registered democrats had voted early as republicans here. There were almost as many "other" voters as republicans. I suspect they're Ron Paul supporters. He has a sizable following in these parts.

As of last Tuesday republicans were ahead with vote by mail/absentee ballots, but the spread should be tightening.

You're right, though. It's been close, but it's far from over. Our local office has a shuttle to take people to early vote. We came across a fellow today who can't drive due to an illness. The Obama office here is so well organized, they were able to have a ride at his house to take him to the courthouse to vote within 30 minutes of our knocking on his door.

There are so many people working together to bring this to fruition. It's very heartening.

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I understand that Eric is trying to be impartial. But honestly I think the age of "fair and balanced" impartial news reporting is over. I like reading Josh's opinions because I know his bias. He has stated it and made it quite clear where his own personal bias comes from. Knowing that I can make my own judgements about what he says. So, Eric might be erring on the side of impartial caution, but he is doing so in a moment when that is no longer needed or desirable.

But I still appreciate his efforts and I recognize that he is on my(our) team. And I suppose it is still possible for McCain to win, if people on our team just stay home on Tuesday. So, in that sense Eric is doing a service, even if his endless caveats over the last month have worn a bit thin.

That being said, I really, really hope that, after Obama kicks ever-loving ass on Tuesday, Eric posts up a headline that merely says

"We FUCKIN' won, boys and girls, we fuckin' won!!"

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I think you are exactly right.

Being biased towards justice and democracy is no vice.

Being biased towards the 3% to 5% of people who have concentrated wealth and political power is no virtue.

Bias can blind you. But I'm talking about heart.

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I am going to ask a really stupid question...don't get too mad, please. How do these pollsters get their information? Are they using 'exit polls'? Or are they calling people, asking them if they voted early, and how they voted? Everything in the post seems so certain....I just don't understand how they can BE so certain!! We all know how exit polls don't work..remember Kerry?

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Different pollsters have different methods.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

I think Nate Silver has information here.

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This specific poll was done of registered voters by phone (both land-line and cell).

I can't imagine any of these polls right now being based on exit polls....it just seems much easier and cheaper to be able to pick up the phone and dial people at random. I could be wrong, though.

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Kerry only lead in one poll prior to election day, by one point. He was down on average by 2 to 4 points over the last two weeks. Were 72 hours out, and there's no perceptible movement from McCain. Gore closed fast, and Kerry Bush didn't break.

Obama is stretching his lead right now. Watch the majors on Sunday night, and listen to the words used to describe the state of things. I'm not worried, or fearful, just enjoying every second of this.

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I was wondering about those numbers, thanks for the info.

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I'm starting to settle into enjoying this myself.

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What I'm enjoying is the occasional inane poll from Zogby, touted by Drudge, that's throwing wingnuts into a tizzy. Kind of keeps their hopes up, thus ensuring they'll feel on election night like we felt in 2004.

Ah, schadenfreude.

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As i have said before on many posts, McCain's only shot at a win right now is the Bradly Affect.

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Well, I'm sad to say that I've got some good news for McCain: it seems that he won the mock election at my daughter's elementary school 58-42. I live in a VERY conservative area (Bush won here 66-33) and I guess this is a good indication of what children are hearing from their parents at home. As dismal as things have been lately, I'm surprised the McCain campaign hasn't issued a press release trumpeting their "success".

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Chin up.

In a way the mock election contains good news for Obama. The Democratic candidate is up by nine from four years ago and the Republican is down by eight.

Sounds like real progress.

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It should be a bold red headline on Drudge within the hour.

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Don't worry, check out the National student/parent Mock Electiion that my school participated in. Also too there is the Scholastic Magazine election. Obama won and Scholastic has only been wrong twice, Truman and Nixon. http://www.nationalmockelection.org/viewresults.html

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Hey, long-time lurker here. I live in Jamaica and have been following the US elections -- love politics, still have the Time and Newsweek covers of the Clinton win in 92.

I hope Obama wins -- although i was a Hillary supporter, lol. Anyway, all my relatives and friends in the States plan on voting for Obama.

Shoutout to HusseinTenaX, kash79 and jzap -- love reading your comments, LOL.

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Thanks.

Nice to see you.

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Every annoying talking head in the media loves to say "McCain needs to draw an inside straight" if he is to win this.

I'm so sick of this. I would love it if someone would just tell the truth and say "John McCain's needs to pull a golden horsehoe out of his ass and throw a ringer, blindfolded, with his hands tied behind his back to win this thing."

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No shit. Frankly, McCain would have a much better shot at drawing to an inside straight on the river card at the WSOP Final next year than he does winning this election.

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Yeah, real good comment. Inside straight, *my ass!* Thanks.

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I'm watching the Obama rally in Springfield, MO over at cnn.com. Obama just guessed that the crowd was 40K.

If he's right that's an amazing number for a deep red area like southwest Missouri. I was one of the 100K in St. Louis, but 40K in Springfield is arguably more impressive (and encouraging.)

This campaign continues to amaze me.


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I was watching the rally too and thought the same. A big crowd late at night in a deep red area, AND the rally was full of optimism and excitement. That was great to see.

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I just watched McScum's SNL skit with Tina Fey. It was actually very funny. A striking difference from the Palin skit the other day (where she obviously couldn't remember a skit of more than a couple of words).

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John AND Cindy were on SNL tonight - Who's the celebrity wannabe John? Even your wife wanted in on the action knowing that this is it for the both of you.

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I'm watching the BET hip hop awards and the GOTV message could not be more dominant.

There's a huge picture of Obama over the stage, just in case anyone forgets what's at stake.

I'm loving this to pieces. God I love this - Obama got the entire goddamn country up on its feet and voting. I fucking love this.

Democrats win when people vote. Vote hasn't fallen off because of apathy - that was not a cause - it was the effect of years of Repug voter intimidation and vote suppression.

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That's absolutely right, Tena.

Was anyone else in on the Obama conference call tonight? He had just landed and was on his way to the rally in Springfield. A couple of very good signs from the campaign--especially in North Carolina today.

Basically, though, his message was the one he's given consistently: get every young person you know out to the polls, and we win. And if you've voted already, go cheer up the people who are standing in the long lines come election day. Let them know that standing in a long line is the patriotic thing to do.

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I was on the call. It was a nice close to a day of canvassing in North St. Louis County.

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Eric

You wrote "With the common estimate being that roughly one third of all ballots cast this year will be early votes,..." At least here in North Texas that one third is ridiculously low.

Tarrant County Texas (Fort Worth) just reported early voting turn out of 459,856 voters out of total registration of 965,524. That's 47.6% of total registration that has already turned out.

Dallas County next door had turnout of about 477,455 voters with total registration of over 1.2 million voters, or about 40% of registered voters.

My experience in Tarrant County (reported from memory) has been that turnout has usually run a little over 60% of registered voters, with about half of them early voters. My guess is that another 35% or so will turn out Tuesday. That's probably optimistic, but I think that this is a good time to be optimistic, even with the Texas economy doing better than most other parts of the U.S.

I have no scientific way of telling which way the voters voted, but the Republicans have always had a higher turnout than Democrats. That would mean there is a lot more room for improvement for Democrats than for Republicans. The remarkably high turn out for the Democratic caucuses suggests that the Democrats will be out. I wouldn't be optimistic enough to anticipate an Obama victory, but I am pretty sure it's going to be a lot closer than the Republicans will be happy with.

This is an ideocentric local view of the early voting in North Texas and what it might suggest. It sure is different from any other election I have ever known here.

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Thanks for that.

The primary in Dallas Co. was unlike anything I'd ever experienced.

Wow - it sounds promising.

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Sure, I'm in safe blue WA. It's still exciting to look up different counties and see what the ballot return rate is.

King Co. (Seattle) has about 75% of their voters signed up for absentee/vote by mail. Of those, 47% have returned ballots.

Clark Co (Vancouver-sw WA) is all vote by mail and as of Saturday, 54.7% of all ballots are in.

The good things about vote by mail are a higher turnout rate and everyone votes on paper. The bad thing is, all the signatures on the outside envelopes have to be verified before the ballot can be counted so it can take a long time to get results, especially if many ballots are turned in on election day. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Hey, TheOtherWA, Snohomish County is vote by mail. I certainly enjoy the ease of voting. I am shocked reading about people in other parts of the country standing in line for 6 and 8 hours. They are to be commended.

Yes, WA is solid blue, but I am concerned about the race for governor and also the 8th District. Keeping my fingers crossed. Also, Yes on #1000 and #1029. We get ignored by both major parties here for the most part, but it doesn't make us any less interested. I've actually been receiving robocalls from both sides in the last few days. Kind of made me feel like a real part of it!

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What happened with Dino's deposition?

Have they handcuffed him and marched him off to prison yet?

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I'm worried about the governor's race too. It's too close right now for comfort, based on the latest polls. Haven't seen any polling on I-1000.

I can't imagine standing in line for 6 hours to vote. The first couple of elections I did by mail, it seemed weird. I missed the ritual of going to a polling place. Seeing what the rest of the country's putting up with makes me appreciate it a whole lot more.

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I think the skit with Tina Fey reall shows the split between McCain and Palin. Tina is so clearly playing Palin as a moron it's a bit cringe-inducing for me to see McCain standing next to her, "also too".

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Question:

How big an electoral vote difference must the election be to be considered a "landside," or voter "mandate," type of result? Is there generally agreed upon spread?

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I remember the conservative media blathering about Bush having a mandate with his 52% win in 2004. They were so relieved he "won" the popular vote that time. (Let's not talk about Ohio, ok?)

Bush was entitled to go after all his dream policies since he had this so called mandate.

I want to see these same pundits eat their words next week.

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It's just the start. I was thinking - people see that actually getting out and voting can change things, lots of things could start changing.

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Yeah, I remember that too, and all the talk about Bush spending his political capital. Didn't make sense to me, then or now, given how close the race was.

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I recall Cheney had some flippant remark about the National Debt and Bush spending and he said to the extent "F*** worrying about the debt, we have a mandate".

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Hmmm, it's just when the consensus is you win by a large margin. As in Obama either wins by 5 or 6 percentage points or if he reaches 350 EV's. Then you can declare you were given a mandate from the people. I actually watched a DVD on Presidencial amndates from Lincoln to Reagan. You should look it up, it's a good watch.

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Obama needs to burn his political capital on universal healthcare - energy independence and the economic crisis are bi-partisan issues. Future candidates will not dare uninsure folks after Obama would get them covered - it would be guaranteed votes for the other candidate and political suicide.

I have a feeling the GOP will try and fake a fight over an issue and try to fake that Obama is using up political capital there.

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Been grooving to some amazing palladia music all night here. The calm I settled into a few days ago just keeps getting better. We're going to win big. Believe it.

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McCain supporter denies candy to children of Obama supporters

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/01/mccain-supporter-denies-c_n_140075.html

I'm ashamed to say she is from my home state but she does live in a Detroit suburb that is very white, rich and waspy.

Shame on her.

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Thanks for that. It's funny how the reporter makes sure to clearly state the woman's name and where she lives. Hopefully people don't go too hard on her, since she is filled with enough hate as it is.

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Yeah, I noticed that and what's even funnier is that reporter is from a local Fox station.

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I found that part hilarious, it's about time to T-P that house.

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If it's in Grosse Point, trust me, she's got instant security service. T-P-ing takes way too long. Gotta be something quick. Like with dog poop.

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Wow, warm and fuzzy all over after watching, and wasn't she handing out M&M peanuts? Most kids don't like the peanuts, has the woman never been around children?

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Everything is possible, Eric, including you waking up to the reality at some point.

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Possible? I would like to know how. McCain would have to blow Obama's doors off on Tuesday to overcome such a deficit, and he has no real ground game to be able to do that. There is no evidence of complacency that I have seen. Eric, you do not have to couch everything. I just watched Cook with Matthews, and he is simply in awe of what is going to happen, and what is happening with the early voting. Cook is the one guy who I trust with these things; he was on the money in 06.

By the way, Zogby has BHO up by 6, or as Drudge has it 5.7. The electorate is like cement now.

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With Drudge, it is going to be an effortless transition from (1) his ever pissing his malodorous pants giddily about the latest obscure erroneous outlier poll favoring McCain, to (2)upcoming false statements about "irregularities" that will have caused the election to be "stolen" in Obama's favor.

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When you get a dog at the pound, first they check that it won't bite or they wouldn't approve it for adoption. If they have any profesionalism, they do, for one thing because the consequences can otherwise be very negative for them.

You should check that they did this, and if you don't, you're being careless.

McCain has got a biter in Bible Spice, and the fact that he never checked is a further mar on his now disgraced record of "erratic" leadership.

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The morning Zogby -

O - 49.5 %

M - 43.8 %

John's back to that rock solid number .... 43. He's been chained to that number for weeks. It floats around, but never far from 43. The number Bush loved to call himself.

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Good one on 43. Another proof Mcinsane is indeed Bushie boy.

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Please stay way from Zogby. He makes up his numbers.

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Tech stuns No. 1 Texas, 39-33

Sweet.

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Nice to hear that the early voting is strong for Obama, but it makes me wonder: Will this skew Tuesday's votes in McCain's favor?

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No Matter what the polls say GOTV counts! We need to make this a referendum - no doubt that we the citizens want to bury George W. and his doppelganger McSame once and for all. This, if all possible must be a landslide to clearly demonstrate to the repubs and more importantly the world that we reject everything Bush stands for and that we want our country back.

Additionally, a vote for Obama is a vote for good management and what this country needs is someone with intellect, common sense and the ability to seek out advisors who know something rather then relying on "gut". We can all see clearly where "gut" has gotten us.

Let's get America back - vote Obama.

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