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Obama Meeting With McCain On Monday

Barack Obama and John McCain will have their first post-election meeting this Monday.

The Obama transition office has released this statement:

"On Monday, President-elect Barack Obama and Senator John McCain will meet in Chicago at transition headquarters. It's well known that they share an important belief that Americans want and deserve a more effective and efficient government, and will discuss ways to work together to make that a reality. They will be joined in the meeting by Senator Lindsey Graham and Congressman Rahm Emanuel."

It's interesting that this meeting is taking place in Chicago -- purely Obama territory -- rather than a more neutral ground like Washington. The reality is definitely sinking in as to who's in charge now.


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I'm guessing that high on the agenda will be Obama's admission that he is indeed a socialist.

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Cripes, give it up already, SARAH PALIN!

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No, I'm not that wise and witty governor from AK. I'm just an average "Joe". Yeah, you betcha!

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Make McShame kiss your ass live on national TV, Barack.

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So McCain is responding to a summons to the Oracle of Chicago? I hope he brings the appropriate sacrificial offerings necessary for the ritual of political cleansing in the hope of influence for a positive prophesy.

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"They will be joined in the meeting by Senator Lindsey Graham and Congressman Rahm Emanuel."

What? Where's Joe the Lying Schmuck?

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Hiding under a rock.

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I thought he was on his knees. Though not praying.

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"My friend, what post do you have for me? Can I pilot Air Force One?"

Oh good, another minute-long delay with each post submitted...I missed that! (eye roll)

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Along those lines, maybe McShame can ask to be appointed to head the NTSB -- since he's had so much experience crashing airplanes.

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I'm guessing that high on the agenda is the request that McSlimer and pro-war crime of torture Graham will cease to name-call -- cease the politics of mindless/racist hatred -- by deciding to instead be pro-American.

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I just wish Lynn Z. would simply come out of the closet, along with Con-D-lezzy.

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Hey now! Some of are happy in our closets!

As Tweetie would say, "HA!"

PS the only closet I'm in is the anti-technology one and that's only 'cause I'm a technology contractor and it would be bad for business to confess my hatred of all things modern...

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Hopefully McCain doesn't expect a Cabinet post. The guy has nothing to offer an Obama administration and can't even really help him as a go-between with the Republicans, as most Republicans have little use for McCain anymore.

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How about Fail'n Palin head up faith-based initiatives.

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Excellent! Failin' in charge would guarantee the whole program collapses.

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Actually, I think he'd be an excellent candidate to sit on a panel focused on shutting down Guantanamo.

McCain's (last vestige of) integrity is tied to his experiences as a POW, he's (occasionally) expressed opposition to torture, and support for the Geneva Convention.

Extending the offer would at least show magnanimity - and confidence - on Obama's part.

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McCain pals around with Obama today.

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zing!

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I think this is a good thing. It will hopefully quiet the right-wingers out there who are still angry over Obama being elected our next president. If they see Obama and McCain working together towards the same ends (making our economy stronger and our country safer), then it might dawn on them that the vitriol doesn't help anyone.

I'm looking forward to Obama's administration because -- unlike his predecessor -- I think that he will govern by surrounding himself with a myriad of thinkers who do not all agree with him on every policy. What a novel idea!

http://thepajamapundit.com/

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I think many of the right-wingers didn't trust McCain in the first place—he was merely the lesser of two evils in this election to them.

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Yep. The freeper fantasy was that McCain/Palin would be elected, and John would promptly drop dead after the inauguration.

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Ms Lindsay the log cabin orafice will be there...FOR WHAT?

I guess MS Graham needs t continue to wipe MCSames arze daily

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Knock off the homophobe crap.

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Lynn Z is the homophobe because he won't come out of the closet, and he continually votes against rights for homosexuals.

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No, Lindsey Graham is a hypocrite for being (in all likelihood) a closeted gay man who votes consistently against gay rights. He is, perhaps, even self-hating. Whatever he is, making jokes about "Miss Lynn Z" is homophobic and creepy, not to mention not very becoming on an ostensibly liberal/progressive blog.

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Perhaps Emanuel will be reminding Graham of his stated promise to drown himself if Obama took North Carolina. That's why they're at the meeting.

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Nice gesture from Obama. The boss is attempting to rescue the "neutral minded" and "soon-to-be-marginalized" group of Republicans and strengthen his position on policies and earn moral high ground.
The timing cannot be better: you guys read about RNC's lawsuit for the reversal of McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance?
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For what his father said, Rahm should resign from all public service immediately to earn "classines" (ref. to one headline on TPMMucraker). His apology is not enough. He is and will remain a son of Arab-hating father, who not only thinks Arabs are born to "sweep floors," thus sub-humans, but also thinks to be Jewish is to be anti-Arab. I just wish this guy took some moral lessons from George Soros, one of my heroes.
Fuck, don't even dare contradicting me here.

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Actually, I don't have a clue what you're going on about. But for the sake of intellectual freedom, I feel I must disagree.

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You are entitled to your opinion, but I will never support an Arab-hater. I take his apology to be a political cover-up.
You disagree because maybe you think to be a Jew is to be anti-Arab and to be American is to hate Islam?
Go read George Soros's position on America-Israel/ Jew-Arab: Separate the religion (of Judaism) from the state (of Israel).

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I didn't realize we are responsible for our father's sins.

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If you look closely, I am not talking about punishing Rahm for his father's sins. The father characterized the son that he'd behave such and such way in the interest of Israel. I think the father understands the son where he stands. That standing is problematic because it conflates religion and state politics.

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Let me clarify further.
The father characterized the son that he'd behave such and such way in the interest of Israel simply because he's a Jew. I think the father understands the son where his son stands. That standing is problematic because it conflates religion (Judaism) and state politics (Israel-America). You can take the father as a metaphoric equivalence of most Jewish Americans. That articulation of the father is shared by most, and it is not in the interest of the world peace. We may have obligation to protect Israel but we don't have obligation to protect a religion, and even if we do, they must be treated separately. That is what I understood from Soros.

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Just two sum up: Two tough-ass guys from IL, one future Viagra spokesman, and South Carolina's most eligible bachelor. There's a "_____________, ____________ & ___________" walked into a bar joke there, but I'm not gonna tell it.

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I'm pretty sure it ends with, "That's not a tire gauge!"

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Maybe Obama will pull a page from West Wing, and ask McCain to be his Secretary of State. Fiction will officially become reality, and the circle will be closed.

Sorry, I've been watching reruns on Bravo. It's so surreal watching some of the similarities play out.

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One other major advantage of McCain in the Cabinet no one has brought up:

Janet Napolitano picks his replacement if he leaves his Senate post, potentially taking away Traitor Joe's leverage and role in the 60.

Isn't that worth it?

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Doesn't she have to pick an (R) to replace an (R)?

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Depends on state law. Not all states allow governors to name the replacement, and of those not all require maintaining the party of the departing senator.

The party affiliation of the governor is often a major factor in resignation decisions.

Anybody know the law in Arizona?

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Damn.

I just checked, and both azcentral.com and KVOA (AZ NBC affiliate) say that AZ state law requires the Governor to choose a member of the same party.

Well, that would've been nice....


I still want to compile a list of states that have a Dem governor and GOP senators that could be potential Cabinet picks to try and get 60 without Joe.

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Barack will tell him he is ready to do those town meetings now.

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Weird coment.

Of course Obama's meeting in Chicago. That's where his entire transition effort is taking place. He's steering clear of Washington until inauguration (aside from a meeting with #43). And of course other people come to the President Elect except the President.

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Is William Ayers attending?

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Reminds me of the last episdoe of the West Wing show. Remember when Santos won? He invited Vinick for a meeting and offered him Sec of State.

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I can see the headline now,

John McCain named 67th Secretary of State of the United States, tells world, "get the hell off my lawn!"

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Ah, but which one? :-)

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Remember that Santos had a repug Senate and a tiny dem majority in the house to deal with, not to mention having to get his VP choice through a hostile Senate.

Santos needed Vinick, and regardless of party Vinick was actually super-qualified.

Obama doesn't need shit from McShame, and it's hardly a qualification for anything to be a walking temper tantrum in diapers.

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Olde Johnny Mac walks into Obama's office, dumb look on face, turns to Graham, "Are we there yet?"

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Obama should ask McCain to tear apart the DOD budget and recommend cuts.

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What? No Bill Swerski at the meeeting?

Seriously, given the way that Republicans - beginning with his own running mate - have been throwing him under the bus, I bet part of McCain wants to break party ranks and work with Obama. It would help him restore his legacy and reputation as a maverick and his can attack his name to potentially ground-breaking legislation. Furthermore, he has no future as a national candidate so he doesn't have to kowtow to the 'base.'

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Off topic but I had to share this:

'Sarkozy to Putin: ‘Do you want to end up like Bush?’

The London Times’ Charles Bremner has identified one positive aspect of President Bush’s foreign policy legacy:

With Russian tanks only 30 miles from Tbilisi on August 12, Mr. Sarkozy told Mr. Putin that the world would not accept the overthrow of Georgia’s Government. According to [Sarkozy’s chief diplomatic adviser, Jean-David] Levitte, the Russian seemed unconcerned by international reaction. “I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls,” Mr. Putin declared.

Mr. Sarkozy thought he had misheard. “Hang him?” — he asked. “Why not?” Mr. Putin replied. “The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein.”

Mr. Sarkozy, using the familiar tu, tried to reason with him: “Yes but do you want to end up like [President] Bush?” Mr. Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: “Ah — you have scored a point there.”

Fear of “ending up like Bush” now functions as a deterrent.'

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lol..
now thats good stuff!

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Appointing McCain Secretary of Veterans Affairs might be a brilliant move:

1) It could be something that McCain would want to do.
2) It would demonstrate magnanimity - extending an olive branch across the aisle.
3) It would open up a seat in a red state that would either get filled by a Democrat, or by an easily marginalized wingnut.
4) It would help capture some of the moderate Repub vote in 2010.

"Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer." M. Puzo

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McCain has a terrible voting record when it comes to veterans. He would make a bigger mess of the VA. Tammy Duckworth would be a smarter choice for Sec of Veteran Affairs.

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Co-Sign!

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As I said near this, Arizona law requires the Governor to replace a departing Senator with a member of the same party, so that positive part doesn't hold (the rest still stands though).

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That looks like a bipartisan coalition to close Gitmo and end torture. Both Republicans dishonored themselves in many ways this past year, on these two subjects as well, but they're about as good as the GOP gets and telling them now to line up or get called out makes a lot of sense to me.

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It's really nice to see them take the first step toward working together. Credit to both. I wish Bush had done the same thing with Kerry.

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That looks like a bipartisan coalition to close Gitmo and end torture. Both Republicans dishonored themselves in many ways this past year, on these two subjects as well, but they're about as good as the GOP gets and telling them now to line up or get called out makes a lot of sense to me.

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The crux of this move may embolden Republican centrism. If obstructionism can be neutralized and substantial progress achieved on various fronts, a new climate will have been established, perfect for wing nuts to marginalize themselves.

All that will be left for the kooks will be saffron robes and gasoline cans. I'll happily provide the matches.

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I have not ducked into the comments since the election, but now that I have...yuck. What's happened?

The discourse has gone WAY downhill.

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A sphincter says "what"?

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Was that aimed at me, Dorn?

I have commented for months, but I don't see a lot of regulars on this thread, and see what appears to be a lot of right-wing trolling.

I was a bit confused is all. Carry on.

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All 4 of these guys are extremely familiar with each other from Congress and the presence of Emanuel and Graham indicates that there will be deal-making on the agenda.

Regardless of the fates of Franken and Martin, a significant amount of power is represented by McCain's single vote in the Senate, even without any other influence he might be able to bring to bear. The same could be said of Graham, but if he has any mavericky tendencies, he's certain kept them well-hidden during the Bush years.

It would be a huge coup if Emanuel and Obama could carrot and stick these two into pledging their support for any issue or issues (such as healthcare or the green job initiative to solve unemployment, global warming and oil revenues for islamic extremists in one fell swoop). With them, Lieberman and Begich, you've got 60 even if Coleman wins. And that's not even counting Collins, Snowe and Specter. If McCain could be convinced of the importance of any aspect of the Obama agenda, and offered a measure of credit for its success, he could single-handedly make it cut through Congress like a knife through butter.

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I don't see McCain getting invited into the cabinet. For starters, he would have to walk back his endorsement of Chambliss and there's really no graceful way to do that. Secondly, what portfolio could he manage in a way that doesn't conflict with Obama's positions and direction? State? Guess again: foreign policy was the starkest difference between the two according to everyone including the candidates. Treasury? No experience and expertise. Homeland Security (covering the possible agreements on immigration)? Uh, how would that work with Traitor Joe as the oversight mechanism? -- talk about conflicts of interest!

Frankly, I can't think of any other areas where McCain would bring anything to the table. My guess is that this meeting is bipartisanship window dressing.

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Even after the election, Lindsay Graham continues to be McCain's butt-boy. It's kinda creepy, innit?

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How solid does McConnell sit with other Republican senators?

Could McCain pull the rug out from under him? If so, he'd have gone back to his roots, so to speak. Kissing the fat man's ass didn't work and why spend the balance of his career in irrelevance?

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The most awesome possible opening line from Obama: "Hey John, I thought we'd finally get around to scheduling those townhall debates..."

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Questions remain as to exactly what the circumstances were pertaining to McConnell's discharge from military service.

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This is a very interesting action by John and his sidekick.

If you think Obama requested the meeting, I understand the "John being offered a cabinet position". I don't agree.

I think John requested the meeting. I further surmise that the meeting had to happen fast and the only way to fit it into Obama's schedule was to travel to Chicago.

Now, why would John need Obama's assistance quickly? Keep in mind that January 20th hasn't arrived yet and Obama is resigning from the Senate effective this Sunday.

The only thing that comes to mind is Obama's assistance in allowing Joe L. to keep his chairmanship and his place in the Democratic caucus. If I'm right, then Joe will keep his place in the caucus and his chairmanship in exchange for ? Time will tell.

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The issue with Joe L. can be phoned in. McCain wouldn't travel all that way for Joe L. This meeting is more serious than that.

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Just 'cause you don't view it as a serious sort of thing doesn't mean that McCain shares your view.

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Some deals need to be affirmed with a hand shake.

If McCain is promising something substantial in exchange for his friend's pardon, it will carry more weight if he does it in person.

It may have nothing to do with Lieberman. Personally, I think it's likely that McSame will be willing to do a LOT for Obama in order to scrape some of the scum from his heavily tarnished brand.

If so, he might approach Obama with plans to head up a bi-partisan immigration reform bill. Alternatively, it could be health care reform or a Gitmo closure. I suspect it's not health Care as he and Obama differed so substantially on the issue. Neither is it likely Gitmo as Obama probably doesn't need his help to simply move some prisoners around, an executive order would likely cover it.

Who can really say how far McCain is willing to go to redeem himself. At this point he's got nothing to lose and everything to gain. I tend to think McShill campaigned at odds with a lot of his core beliefs. I wouldn't be shocked to see him agree to head bi-partisan efforts on any number of issues.

Though I don't know if a single Republican vote favoring a Democratic bill makes it technically "bi-partisan". Perhaps McCain could drag two or three Republican along with him, probably no more than that. Those two or three votes mean a lot when the Democratic Senate is so close to 60.

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Is Obama going to offer McCain the Secretary of Homeland Security job...LOL!

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Could this be a cabinet position meeting?

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It's got to be about McCain's and Graham's votes for specific upcoming legislation.

Obama needs to pass the bills he wants to pass right away - and he needs them to pass with no surprises. There's no way the Obama people haven't spend huge amounts of time and effort analyzing the disaster of the first 2 years of the Clinton Administration.

They're planning out the chess game in advance - just as they did with all the arcane caucus rules in the democratic primary states.

McCain is psychologically vulnerable. He's not going to run for President again and he's spent his whole life running for President. He's got to fill that void with something. Before the election, he said "Don't feel sorry for me - I can go back to the Senate" over and over - too many times - it's not enough for him to just go back to the senate and toe the Republican line - unless he's truly a wuss and a tool.

I don't know what McCain wants, but that's what Obama's going to ask him - "What's your price for voting for, and publicly supporting, bills x, y and z?".

Every man has his price and if I were Obama, I'd be sorely tempted to pay McCain because what he offers in return is a lock on a successful first series of initiatives.

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