My Kid's First Presidential Election
A quick personal note on the election. My seven-year-old son, who's a far sharper political prognosticator than I, confidently predicted that Barack Obama would win the election way back in the early spring.
It took him about five seconds to figure it out. He was in the room playing with something or other while I was watching one of the Obama-Hillary debates, and I asked him who our next president would be. "Obama," he said, in the tone of someone patiently explaining that two plus two equals four, before returning to what he was doing.
I bring this up because it occurs to me that this huge historical triumph will be the first Presidential election he remembers. It's very possible that he will grow up in a period of sustained Democratic ascendancy. Unlike people whose formative years took place during the McCarthyism of the 1950s, or the tumult over Vietnam and Watergate in the 1960s and 1970s, or the Reagan revolution of the 1980s, or the impeachment circus in the 1990s, he could actually grow up perceiving our political system, and our leaders, as functional, effective, even sane.
His earliest memory of politics will be the sight of a black man getting elected president and running the country along with a cast of sober, responsible, even formidable Democratic leaders in Congress.
That's a humbling thought. It's a reminder how high the stakes were in the election and of just how big a victory it really was. And it's a reminder that all the work is just getting started, lest we take these gains for granted and they somehow slip away.















I love this Greg - your best post ever.
The stakes were sky high. Not just for racial healing, that one hopes so much for - but for our future as a progressive country and I know we are a progressive country, and I think we will get on the right path and move now into the 21st century.
This century doesn't belong to me - it's letting me hang around for awhile. It belongs to your children.
And god it looks brighter than it has looked for maybe my whole life.
I'm so grateful to this country for doing the right thing.
November 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
thanks tena -- appreciate it. it really is the next generation's election.
November 7, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Like Boyd Reed said, we didn't vote for Obama on Tuesday...
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/eastside93/2008/11/i-didnt-vote-for-obama-today.php
November 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. The "living in darkness" comment comes about 1 minute in. (Andrea Swensson, the Citypages who drafted the Citypages concer review quoted above, deserves credit for deciphering it.) One of a million powerful scenes from Tuesday night.
http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2008/11/bob_dylan_thing.php
November 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I continue to be amazed at how perceptive children are, and how they cut to the quick--easily and with confidence.
Thanks so much for sharing that here.
November 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
My thoughts exactly...
I was born in 1969 and grew up during the Reagan years...
It gives me a great sense of optimism to know that my children -- a 9, a 6, and a 4 year old -- will grow up during the Obama years.
And, yes, they were all early supporters of the campaign.
November 7, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
November 7, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
O word straight up!
This is our job too - you damn right. We can't sit out here and say: Ok, President Obama - you do it.
We have big jobs to do - every one of us. And thank god we finally got a leader who sees our potential out here and wants to draw on it and wants to guide us to our full potential.
And that means that next time there are ballot initiatives on who can and cannot be considered married in the country, we are going to smash that barrier, too. I promise all of you who were so crushed by the those failures. This is your election too and we will not give up until this country recognized your rights.
November 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have an 8-year old son and have been feeling the same hope. Except in his case he's old enough that his earliest political memories are the Dean scream and the Bush-Kerry Jib-Jab.
November 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
My first political memory is the resignation of Nixon, when I was 8. I've always figured that led to my ongoing belief that government always lies, and that shaped the political apathy that was the rule through most of my young adulthood. It took about three decades, the worst president in history and the most inspirational president in history to turn that around for me, but I'm glad it's finally happened.
Your son is very lucky. He's starting out with hope. I'm finally getting hope that if we work hard now, we can give him a great future.
November 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was lucky -- I was old enough to experience the moon landing and understand that it was a government program, so although Watergate was the first political event I was really old enough to understand, I just came out of it with the belief that Republicans are lying and evil, a belief which has served me well throughout life. ;-)
November 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg--
Great post. My son isn't old enough to understand what is going on, but I, too, share your optimism about his formative years. My vote for Obama was also a vote for him.
November 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg - I really appreciate what you've written. My son is 8 and for him as well this will be the first election he remembers in his lifetime. I always maintained, even back in Summer 2007 when I decided Obama was my candidate, that the rewards of an Obama win would be so monumental that we would not even begin to comprehend them for many years.
Looking at my son the morning after the election and realizing his entire cognizent childhood and adolescence could, God willing, be lived with President Obama in office makes me so happy for him. I grew up with LBJ and Nixon, Vietnam and Martin Luther King's assassination. I pray that my son - a Hispanic in a mixed-race, multi-ethnic family - grows up seeing his country in a very different way than I did. Now it looks like he really can. The benefits of this election are immeasurable.
November 7, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm still half-afraid that I just dreamed this and I'm about to wake up. ;)
November 7, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Every morning now I get up and start all over again trying to believe this.
I feel ya.
November 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hear, hear!
November 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
More than that of a black president, the presidency he will grow up under is that of a once in a lifetime, unique, transformative figure. He already knows that. Most adult eggheads, on the other hand, will still require more time to figure it out.
November 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
We were at my in-laws condo about a mile from Grant Park to watch the election results on their big screen and to be near the "action". After we won Ohio, we dragged the kids out of bed and went to the park. Hopefully, through the cheers and camaraderie of the those people, they get the idea that the "power of the people" can make the difference in their world and, they don't need to feel powerlessly ruled by politicians sitting in smoke filled rooms.
November 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
When I put my 6 year old son to bed Tuesday night I told him that in the morning Barack Obama may be our next President. Without missing a beat he said that Obama will be the next President because he worked really hard. Then he said that McCain wouldn’t win because he didn’t work hard enough and just said “bbbbggghhhttttt – I’m done” while Obama said “I’m going to do this – that – this – that and did it.” Kids can be so insightful sometimes.
November 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am to the point where I hate to talk about how old I am - oy. But this is really difficult for someone like me to believe because I grew up during segregation and it was intense. I remember when you didn't see mixed couples. If you saw one, it stopped traffic.
So much has changed in my lifetime so far that it gets harder to grasp all the time.
We still have miles and miles to go. But goddamn it, we took one giant step that I never expected to live long enough to see us take. And we're actually better than I even thought we were and god knows I've made myself unpopular trying to advocate for masses of people I don't know - your basic American population.
We exceeded my expectations.
November 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I vividly recall the day Martin Luther King was shot. A car was going up and down the street with someone hanging out the window yelling "Yay, the black bastard's dead". I've been thinking about that a lot lately.
November 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't.
November 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I disagree. It's important to reflect on how far we've come. That doesn't mean the job is done, but it gives perspective. And hope. No matter how shitty things are, we can make them better.
November 7, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, I thought you were worrying for Obama (I've heard too many times on here people talking about that).
Isn't it amazing, and all of this change came within one lifetime. I cannot imagine what that 106 yr-old lady, whose been interviewed a lot recently, thinks about all of the changes in her lifetime.
There are still a lot of firsts to come (1st woman, 1st Hispanic, etc), but it is freaking nice that we'll have a presidential portrait that isn't some 'old white guy'.
November 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
So far, so good. It's the next step that we have to get through now. I hope we can balance moving forward with not shocking the average American. Steady, slow, forward, or there will be reactionism.
It doesn't frighten me, but it does interest me how we are going to do. We're in 2 wars, and the average American hasn't sacrificed anything (not counting military families, of course; they are sacrificing everything). Now we have a president that is saying that we are ALL going to have to work, to sacrifice. I think America knows what they voted for on paper, but hopefully America will stick to their pledge when there's work to do. I think we voted for Obama because the average American now knows that the longer we ignore problems (take climate change), the worse it will be later. But, shit, it isn't going to be easy.
November 7, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
My kids are 10, 11, and 13. We phone canvassed every week, and the Santa Fe Obama offices welcomed them, empowered them, and treated them as fellow citizens, not as kids.
After Keith Olbermann called the election, I asked them "Who elected Obama?" And they all YELLED.... "WE DID!"
November 7, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
And you did, too. I'm so happy for you and your kids. You have no idea.
I wanted this for myself of course, but I really wanted it so badly for the whole world. I wanted it for your kids and Greg's and everybody's.
I'm so fucking happy!
November 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like the essays you've started writing lately, Greg, including this one.
I volunteer at a local medical center. Where there are many AA visitors coming and going. I love to see the babies. Lately, I've looked at these little ones and thought how they're going to grow up with a Black president. It just gives me a thrill!
November 7, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah my kids know that I gave $, volunteered and made phone calls etc. For all the talk of "Hope" during the campaign (as in "I hope he wins"), I trust they'll see that hope alone isn't enough and that you've got to get involved to make it happen.
November 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
While I don't directly remember this, my mom has told the story many times that in 1972 she asked me who should win the election and I said "Sen. McGovern, because he'll bring the troops home." God, I should have been a political pundit! ;-)
November 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have a 7 year old also who became very involved in this election. It occurred to me the other day that she is the exact age now that I was when Reagan was elected, and I was a child of the Reagan era.
She will be a child of the Obama era.
The thought that she would come to age not in the morally bankrupt Bush years, but the new Obama era fills my heart with joy.
November 7, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, this is a really wonderful post. And along those same lines, I've been thinking about the fact that because of this election, a generation of young people (college age and younger) will have the idea that we as individuals can truly affect positive change in large ways. Regardless of whether the youth vote grew substantially or not, this election was truly won by young people. Young people who came forward and took ownership of the Obama campaign and made it their own. In every campaign office I found myself in, I was struck by the number of young people, not just helping out, but in positions of responsibility. The Obama team not only ran a brilliant campaign, but through their college outreach and training programs over the summer, they not only gained an army of eager workers, they also developed a generation of community organizers who now beleive that they too can change the world.
November 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Same experience. It's been great to go through with this my son, who just turned 16 today (!). In fact, looking back at just when and how I came around to Obama, I'm realizing that a good bit of my warming to Obama came as I watched my son reacting to him. I was struck by his ability to inspire and connect with youth. He truly represents the dawning of a new era, I think, and I see him leading the emergence of our next generation. Exciting times.
November 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
and your son and thousands of other 14-17 yr olds will be old enough to vote the next time around!
November 7, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know, he's so psyched about that!
November 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
My earliest election memory was when my parents brought me when they voted for Johnson in the Johnson/Goldwater election (1964). I made a point of getting my 9 and 7 year olds out of bed early (6AM) so we could all go pull the lever together for President Elect Obama. I'm so glad I did that and I know they will remember that for the rest of their lives, especially since their mother is Jamaican which makes them bi-racial. In fact, this election was so inspiring to my wife that even though she's been in this country for 20+ as a permanent resident, she has now decided to seek her US citizenship.
November 7, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Aw Jeez - I'm going to spend this entire week crying.
Tell your wife I'm honored that she wants to be a citizen of this country.
I cannot tell you how it makes me feel.
November 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can you imagine how we would have felt if we had failed? Can you imagine how the world would have seen us? It would have been set in stone that we were not what we claimed to be.
November 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
There was a story, I forget where, that was interviewing Egyptians. They were saying that they don't think that the American government "would let Obama win". All they have, in that pseudo Democracy, is what they know. And they didn't think it would be even possible. I'm glad we weren't that cynical!
November 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I read the same thing about China. I read an piece in which the author, who lived in China, was speaking to Chinese people who did not believe for one second we'd do this. Everyone is gobsmacked.
I know some African Americans are. I've heard them talk about it. They have been calling in to Miss Kitty's radio show on XM in utter confusion - they didn't think American white people would elect a black president, either.
I sure like looking better than people expect me to be. It feels awfully damn good after feeling responsible for the Bush Junta for the last 7years. That's the burden of a democracy - it's our fault when it fucks up.
November 7, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I talked to a lot of African Americans who said the same thing. That they wouldn't let him win. That he couldn't win. That he'd get shot.
I hope those who felt that way, black, white and etc., now feel some hope.
We can do this.
November 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg -
My son is also 7. He was born on the morning of 9-11 in NYC. I have always been sad for him that we'd brought him into a pretty horrible world.
He's pretty into politics and even remembers Kerry etc. He's also freakishly into delegate counts, electoral votes, and the balance of power in Congress. His hero is John King (the "map guy"), and he likes to watch over my shoulders when we check into fivethirtyeight.com.
Despite his political sophistication and enthusiasm for the process, I doubt he gets the significance of the election. While we've talked a lot about Iraq, we have not had a conversation about racial politics in America.
I think that's just fine. Let him think that it's perfectly normal for a woman and an African-American to duke it out for the nomination, and for an African-American to beat out an old white guy for the presidency.
November 7, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Freakishly into electoral maps, ha! That's great.
I set up a spreadsheet to track the EVs on election night. It was all color-coded and lovely. Then, I was so tired from being out at the NoVa rally the night before, that I fell asleep on the couch. My son woke me up just after 11 saying, "Mom, they just called FL and VA for Obama," and I saw that he had been carefully tracking the TPM map and filling in my spreadsheet. Bless him. He woke me just in time to turn on McCain's concession speech and watched Obama's acceptance speech together.
November 7, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
O yes! That's the whole beauty of it - your children and Greg's son and all these children will never know how momentous this was and that was the whole point of it! LOLOLOLOL~!!!
God I love this!!!
November 7, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's what Bob Dylan told a Minneapolis audience on 11/4:
No one was expecting Bob Dylan to say a thing during his two-plus hour concert last night at Northrop Auditorium. For years, Dylan has been known to keep to himself during shows, often only speaking between songs once in order to introduce his band members. But last night, after a lengthy break between his regular set and his encore which I can only imagine was spent discovering that Barack Obama had won the election, Dylan returned to the stage to play "Like a Rolling Stone" and then turned to the audience and spoke.
"I was born in 1941," he said, a wavering sentimentality in his scratchy voice. "That was the year they bombed Pearl Harbor. I've been living in darkness ever since. It looks like things are going to change now."
November 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seek and ye shall find- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVfvLEhWmbA
November 7, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
This week has been incredible. I can't get through more than a few hours before a story from the campaign, a picture or just a memory stops me in my tracks. It is just stunning what this man has accomplished, and how far we have come. Combine that with the fact that Bush is leaving office in 74 days, and I couldn't be happier, depsite the grim economic news.
It's a new day, and together we can get through this. We're Americans, we've been through this before.
November 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have teenage daughters who have been enthusiastic Obama supporters from day one. My oldest phone banked for him this fall -- her first volunteer political activity. The first presidential election in which they can vote will be 2012, when, God willing, they will vote to reelect President Obama.
What's really nice is that even they can appreciate that this was an historic election -- one they will remember for the rest of their lives.
November 7, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
lelee -
Ours was born just after 9-11. I share your feelings absolutely. And now getting out the vote with me, which she loved:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30580063@N02/3009953747/
November 7, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Although I'm so pleased with the results, I find myself in a state of destitution. I, along with countless others, whom sacrificed our time to get this man elected, find ourselves wondering now what.
Now what.
Now what?
Now begins the time for actions to speak louder than words.
Now is the time for the tens of thousands of online activists to come together to ensure the agenda and issues we've so vehemently defended become a reality.
Now is the time for all of us to step up to the plate and do our part and begin the next great chapter of America.
I can't wait.
November 7, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I really appreciate what you've written, Greg.
My daughters are 1 and 4. Obama is the first president my oldest will remember (my youngest too, assuming he's elected to a second term). I was thinking just the other day how amazing it is that my children will grow up in a world where, to them, a black man has always been able to be president. And a woman was able to run and be taken seriously.
November 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg,
This is a terrific post. Thanks so much for sharing it. Like many parents here at TPM, I've loved reading the stories of how children have responded to this election.
My 10 year old daughter and 13 year old son have been completely absorbed in this election. It was my son who got me to read Dreams From My Father (which I later reviewed alongside Faith of My Fathers), and since last March, he and I have shared many afternoons canvassing together.
We spent Tuesday walking through the quiet neighborhoods of Bucks County, PA -- talking with voters, placing poll information on door knobs, laughing at the few caustic remarks we received from disgruntled McCain supporters.
Later that afternoon, as we were preparing to leave the headquarters for the day, I realized how much I was going to miss this campaign for all it has given me as both a citizen and a father. That sense of communal good will has been so rare in my life and yet my kids have been able to experience it first hand via the Obama campaign. It is not that they've inherited a different world -- they've worked hard for it alongside scruffy college kids and clean-pressed retirees.
A final word of congratulations, Greg, on making it into the fascinating Newsweek account of the campaign. Great job!
November 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
In 1952 Alabama Senator John Sparkman came by our home in Huntsville and after shaking his hand I went around telling everyone "this is the hand that shook the hand of the next Vice President of the United States."
My first Presidential election memory is of listening to results on the radio and being quite disappointed that Stevenson/Sparkman lost to Ike/Dick. I remember that my father didn't visibly react, so I decided it must not be all that terrible an event.
The first time my candidate for president won was in 1976. I remember staying up late until Uncle Walter finally said something like "well, I guess it's about time to call this election." I left a note on the table to tell the family that "Jimmy Won!" (When I got up the next morning, my father had written a note underneath "Jimmy Who?") Vividly I remember the 4th of July 1976 and the patriotism I felt and that the country was in for real change for the better.
So, a cautionary note for you youngsters, in 1976 I believed the country had put war and racism behind us. This year's election is probably the most emotional I've ever experienced and it's wonderful how the country has changed. But the struggle has not yet begun, the Repuglicans will come back as their creed is "It ain't over until we win."
Good luck and God bless, President O.
November 7, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
The earliest election I can remember is 1960. What I recall most was the feeling of hope that pervaded Kennedy's election. If you haven't heard it before, give a listen to his inaugural address:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jfkinaugural.htm
It's almost spooky how well it translates into today, 48 years later.
November 7, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, your comment about the certainty of your son's prediction hit me. I have two sons, ages 18 and 21. This was the first presidential election for both of them, in terms of voting. They have a stepbrother in Iraq right now so they have been especially motivated. Whenever I would despair about Obama's chances, their calm certainty that he would win brought me back up for air. Their positive confidence was because Obama was able to speak to them despite their cynical view of politics, bred by the Bush/Cheney years. He really got through to them. Just wonderful!
November 7, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
all of you, thanks very much for all this. your stories and thoughts are much appreciated...g
November 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seems like we all feel a bit freer and can breathe a bit easier, and maybe write a bit more personally, having seen this election actually come to pass. I still can't quite believe it! And yet I feel so much better every day I wake up, knowing we've got Obama in our future.
Really, I'm loving these essays you've started writing!
November 7, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a child story to share was well. Sometime over the summer I put the video of the Iowa caucus night speech up for my kids (2 and 3 yrs old). I was interested to see if the power of the speech translated to someone who did not really understand the words - similar to watching a speech in a foreign language.
My 3 year old, ever aware of the people around her, clapped when everyone else clapped. I figured this was pretty much what you could expect. The 2 year old just studied the video which is how she typically handles new experiences.
So about 3-4 weeks ago as I was bringing them downstairs for breakfast, the 2 year old asked "I want to listen to Obama." I couldn't believe it so I asked her to repeat it until my wife said "you heard the child, put on the Obama speech." Ever since then, either one of his speeches or the will.i.am music video has been a staple in our house. I don't know if I did something right or wrong, but I have a 2yo political junkie!
We took the kids to the polls with us and they have been telling everyone they see that they voted for Obama and as the older one says - Obama WON!
As they grow up, I know that he will likely be the first president they can remember. Now I hope they always remember him not just as the president when they were young, but THEIR president.
November 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
A really wonderful post, Greg, and my experience mirrors yours very closely.
My first real memories of a President were of Nixon (particularly of the Watergate hearings which displaced my favorite cartoons!). Now I too have a seven-year old son, and though he's been only able to follow events from here in Germany, we talked a good deal about Obama when he first noticed me reading Dreams from My Father, and he has followed the frequent news reports on the children's station KIKA since the primaries. To say the least, he has been a very enthusiastic Obama supporter!
Nothing would make me happier than if he can witness people tackling the serious problems we face with intelligence and goodwill. With Obama's win, I have the hope that he will.
November 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, Greg, for such a wonderful post. As the mother of a daughter who will turn 7 next month, I have had many of these same reflections. To have her become "aware" of politics and the history and values of our country at this time has just been a gift in so many ways.
November 7, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
This truly is a great post. The question of whether we could say this:
[Our children] "could actually grow up perceiving our political system, and our leaders, as functional, effective, even sane."
...had John McCain been elected borders on the absurd.
The more interesting question is whether we could have said it had Hillary Clinton been elected.
November 7, 2008 6:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
My son followed and listened to all the Democratic candidates, and early on fixed his support on Obama. We live in a politically active area of Iowa, so he got a chance to see just about everyone. When we caucused he was proudly standing with an overwhelming crowd, young and old, black and white and every other color and flavor of Obama supporter.
He went off to college in Missouri, and when I asked him if he was going to vote absentee, he said he believed his vote would be more needed in Missouri, so he changed his registration for there.
My sixteen year old daughter was down volunteering.
It's wonderful to see them believe in our processes and ideals, and help make them realities. It's wonderful to see Barack Obama inspire a whole generation.
November 7, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink