MSM To Obama: Be Wary Of Left-Wing Groups Demanding Too Much Change
Here's a rapidly emerging media meme to keep an eye out for. From Dan Balz's Washington Post piece on the challenges Obama faces as President:
This adviser said Obama knows that he must move strategically to balance his pledges to govern inclusively while promoting a progressive agenda. "It's up to him to educate people on a strategy to move forward." Part of that strategy, he added, will be persuading people to be patient about the pace of change.Obama advisers take seriously the senator's rhetoric about governing in a bipartisan fashion. They are ready for potential conflict with some Democratic constituencies or with some liberal Democrats in Congress, whose pent-up demand for action may clash with Obama's priorities, and are prepared to say no.
Are Obama advisers already setting up the straw man of left-wing groups demanding too much change? I have no idea. It seems doubtful that this is a real reflection of internal thinking. Presuming for the moment that some Obama adviser somewhere did say this, it could mean that Obama aides are, understandably, trying to depress expectations for speedy changes, or that they are saying this kind of stuff to give themselves cover to enact their agenda.
The more important point is that this is a story-line that some in the media will be eager to tell: Obama is under pressure from left-wing interest groups to deliver on a progressive agenda that is out of step with the American people -- pressure that is testing Obama's willingness to "stand up" to MoveOn and other radicals.
Will there be real tensions within the Dem coalition over the direction of Obama's presidency? Of course -- but some will be very eager to inflate those tensions by exaggerating the differences between the goals of "the left" and the mandate that mainstream America just handed to Obama.
As Paul Krugman aptly puts it, Obama called for a progressive agenda that includes "spreading the wealth," and McCain called him a socialist and a "re-distributor." And the American people made their choice -- resoundingly. There will be tremendous pressure on Obama to forget this.
Late Update: Matthew Yglesias makes the key point about what we should term the "progressive center."















This should be read more of an act of shepherding Pelosi and others in Congress so that they remember who the boss is. The majorities in Congress increased because of Obama. It would behoove Congressional leaders to remember this.
November 5, 2008 12:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, no doubt. my concern is with media's desire to exaggerate this storyline -- literally a day after obama was handed this huge victory
November 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sure. The exaggeration is just the media's way of filling in the vacuum.
November 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think so too.
I think we should have seen just how easy it is to pressure Barack Obama - it's not.
November 5, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, Greg?...
Characterizing MoveOn as radical is your editorial opinion. Don't you think they're about as radical as the Heritage Foundation is reactionary?
How about giving us a phrase like, "... the HF and other reactionary groups," in a subsequent post, OK?
November 5, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
uh... no.
everything after the colon there ought to be read from the pov of the media storyline being described.
November 5, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops. Yep, you're right. Thanks.
Uh, Greg? Nevermind!
November 5, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
First Rule of Order:
One doesn't lock horns with the President of Cool unless you wish to look foolish in public.
I'll bet President Obama has already thought about this and has plans to deal with any rebel insurrection that happen on his watch.
BTW, it really feels good to have some one to call President again!
November 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Remember who the boss is"? You do realize that the various branches of government are supposed to be equal, right? We bitched for years about the imperial presidency of Bush. Now we expect Obama to be imperialistic with the legislature, too?
Heaven forbid.
November 5, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
no.
the point is that obama is 'the boss' of the party, not that he is the boss of all three branches of gov't.
obama IS the boss here. both because the president is largely considered to be the leader of the president's party and (perhaps most importantly here) because the expansion of the party's control in both the house and senate should be seen as largely due to obama's coat tails.
November 5, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was precisely this inanity that I was speaking to in the last thread.
The left is going to be deeply satisfied if Obama just works to correct the damage that the Bush administration has caused. We're not looking for a radical progressive agenda at this point: we want correction and restitution. We'll be thrilled if he closes Guantanamo, gets the DOJ in order, signs Kyoto, undoes all the bogus EPA regulations, and on and on and on. In this sense, Obama has it easy. We (I'll speak from the hard left) are at this point quite easy to please.
But we want S Hersh to make those calls on January 20 (main page post).
November 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
We all have to demand accountability from Obama, this was our win, we did this, he said so himself, now it's time to let our voices be heard and if he deviates from what he ran on- we have to hold him accountable.
November 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama knows he's being watched and judged, even by his most devout supporters. The first great step forward was Rahm Emanuel as COS!
I trust Obama with every ounce of my being that he'll keep things balanced solely for the benefit of ALL citizens, not just those who voted for him.
November 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know it was a blowout and all, but I'm really surprised there hasn't been more hoopla from the right about the laundry list of "voter irregulalarities" they claimed to find nationwide yesterday - in fact, McCain's campaign website has a page devoted to all of them.
But from what I've been seeing and hearing, they're quiet and just accepting reality.
November 5, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, they ran out of steam (and money) in every possible department. Only Bible Spice seems surprised by how it went down. But what could better for fueling the politics of resentment than losing this big?
November 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only thing they didn't run out of was clothes!
November 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was downtown at the Grant Park event all night last night, but DVR'd CNN's coverage to see what it looked like - seeing Palin on the verge of tears gave me almost as much enlightenment as seeing Obama win.
Just seeing that cocky, arrogant, clueless, winking clod so publicly shut down emotionally was the second best moment of last night's experience for me!
I really hope she tries for 2012 - she'll be instantly humbled by the fact she comes from a state that re-elected a known felon, by then her own credibility will be shot because of future investigations into her own abuses of power AND, this is the best part, she'll be come the GOP scapegoat for why they lost last night!
She won't even make it past the primaries! She may as well hire Giuliani's crack team of strategists to help her out!
Good riddance, Barbie!
November 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus -- and I hate to say this, but in our culture it matters -- she will be four years older, and more DAR than naughty librarian. More than enough time for her family size to double again, also too (as she would put it).
Oh, and the clothes will go to charity, of course.
November 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huffington Post has an article about her escapades.
Also that Steve Schmidt, the fool that picked her for McCain, refused to allow her to speak at McCain's concession speech last night. I guess they were afraid she launch her 2012 campaign over McCain ruined political crypt.
November 5, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The most revealing thing in that article is that our worst fears were justified- the threat on Obama went way up once she cranked up the hate machine.
November 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus -- and I hate to say this, but in our culture it matters -- she will be four years older, and more DAR than naughty librarian. More than enough time for her family size to double again, also too (as she would put it).
Oh, and the clothes will go to charity, of course.
November 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why are there double posts more than an hour apart? I see we haven't entered a new era, technically speaking.
November 5, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the size of the win put paid to that. If this had been even close, they would be whining with all their might now
November 5, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think we learned long ago that Obama isn't going to wielding a flaming sword of liberalism. That was John Edwards' role in the early campaign (and the reason that Edwards was the most popular among the blog-readers of the left until he dropped out). Instead we realized that even though the so-called most liberal candidate in the history of our country might not promote a 100% progressive agenda, his approach to governing would actually get a greater share of our agenda actually enacted.
I know he needs a rest, but the right (as well as MSM fuckwads like Tom Brokaw) are already trying to define Obama's presidency. He just needs to do that jujitsu shit he's done the entire campaign to disarm those who won't even give him a chance.
November 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think what we all needed to see was Obama repudiate Reverend Donnie McClurkin and denounce homophobia. That might have made a difference in California. I can dream, right?
In the same way, we needed to see McCain denounce the politics of hate originating in Palin.
In my opinion, we saw neither candidate denounce such hate. So yes, Obama will definitely not wield a flaming anything in the same way the Log Cabin Republicans will continue to be Republicans.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Wake me when homophobia is as odious as racism.
November 5, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
When Repubs win, there's rarely any talk of "bipartisanship" or "reaching across the aisle" (see Bush 43). And they govern with an iron fist. But when Democrats win, even convincingly as Obama did yesterday, there are always immediate calls for an "end to partisan rancor" and demands for them to invite Repugs to govern with them. I agree with you, Greg: we need to both counter this developing "bipartisan" meme in the MSM, and make clear to Obama and his folks that we won't sit quietly by for excessive triangulation of the sort that Bill Clinton engaged in extensively.
November 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually Dubya's victory speech in 2004 was chock-full of bipartisan "hopes". EVERYONE talks about it when they win but it's a different story when they get to Washington. Is President Obama going to be different?
November 5, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe Obama is capable of delivering a good deal of progressive substance while disarming the opposition by avoiding the labels that we on the left are so attached to. That would be political jujitsu we can believe in. I hope that is his aim. We'll find out soon enough.
November 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
The jujitsu will be great to watch.
And I'm strangely warming up to the Unitary Executive theory now!
November 5, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Unitary Executive for me thanks. However, if Attorney General Hillary Clinton wants to circumvent surveillance legislation to eavesdrop on the conversations of former White House officials, oil tycoons, defense contractors, Wall Street executives, Alaskan Senators, and the various wingnuts that have run wild these last 8 years but may now be rightly viewed as threats to the country...
A joke. I have strong principles. Still, I'm all for waterboarding Dick Cheney.
November 5, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
He did a fucking superb job of just that in his campaign.
I'm not worried.
November 5, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree 100 percent.
November 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's Barackarate we can believe in!
November 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're absolutely right, Steve. I think one of Obama's greatest challenges will be to put progressive principles in terms that moderates (and even Republicans) can understand and buy into. It's a large challenge, to be sure, but we can be confident he'll be able to do it, since a large part of his success in the election depended on just that ability.
I noticed last night that it was primarily the rightwing pundits opining that Obama needed to distance himself from the left wing of the party, claiming that the mandate he recieved made it necessary for him to do so. (???) I can't remember the name of the woman who delivered one of these bombs last night on CNN, but Paul Begala shut her down pretty quickly. I hope other non-rightwing pundits will be as vigilant.
November 5, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're absolutely right, Steve. I think one of Obama's greatest challenges will be to put progressive principles in terms that moderates (and even Republicans) can understand and buy into. It's a large challenge, to be sure, but we can be confident he'll be able to do it, since a large part of his success in the election depended on just that ability.
I noticed last night that it was primarily the rightwing pundits opining that Obama needed to distance himself from the left wing of the party, claiming that the mandate he recieved made it necessary for him to do so. (???) I can't remember the name of the woman who delivered one of these bombs last night on CNN, but Paul Begala shut her down pretty quickly. I hope other non-rightwing pundits will be as vigilant.
November 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, for what its worth, the "ACORN + Brunner = Obama" signs are still posted in this part of SE Ohio,,,,, which had almost 90% turnout and went almost as high for Obama and all Democrats. Luv it.
The next thing the wingers will come up with is that Barack and the Dems are in league with the Wobblies. I have an original IWW poster from WWI, "A bayonet is a killing tool with a worker at either end.", teriffic graphics, that really needs to show up on Antiques Roadshow some day.
November 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well the knives are alredy out in the GOP. Rep Cantor says he wants Rep Roy Blunt's job as house minority leader
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/cantor_wants_blunts_job.php
November 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Cantor from the Evangelical wing?
November 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. He's jewish.
November 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is going to be more like a circular firing squad. There's going to be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, and I expect a serious power struggle within the Republican party. They've now gotten their asses handed to them in two straight elections. While a lot of it was about Bush, the Republican party has become the party of hate, intolerance and greed, and that shit just doesn't sell anymore. This is an opportunity for the sensible Republicans to throw the clowns overboard and I hope they do. We need two viable parties.
November 5, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems to me over the past 21 months there has been a mountain, or mountain range, of advice for Obama from just about everyone. Thank God he didn't take it.
November 5, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
Word.
November 5, 2008 1:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Healine:
MEDIA SEEKS NEW NARRATIVE THAT WILL PRESERVE STATUS QUO
November 5, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was a headline, BTW : : :
November 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN just used the GOP lie that Obama was ranked the most liberal senator in Washington.
Alas. Not everything changes.
November 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope that comments about "conflict with some Democratic constituencies" is only about timing strategy. One of the big errors of early Clinton was the gays in the military issue. A worthy cause, but not just out the gate.
He needs to dig us out of this Bush hole we're in, but key for political strategy is what ChicagoJoe mentioned. Obama needs to change the way elections are run, starting with paper ballots and sufficiently funded polling stations!
And it will be a huge mistake to not prosecute the Bush Gang - otherwise they'll be back again 10 years from now running the government. Don't believe me? Look into the history of Iran-Contra.
November 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Much as I'd love to see the last 6, 8, 12 years totally undone, and the government take a sharp left turn, it just isn't going to happen. Obama has been very plain about his "bipartisan" plans, his Reaganesque ideas, and his plans to "heal the divide."
Me, I want blood. I want to see every one of the scum-sucking gangsters in the Bush administration and the Republican congress tarred and feathered, or better still, drawn and quartered.
But alas, it won't happen. The Bush gang will get off scot free. Heck, they pretty much already have. Obama himself OK'ed the telecom immunity bill, something for which to this day I have not heard a satisfactory explanation. Cheney, Libby et al will join criminal mastermind Karl Rove on the Faux News "expert" panel making up stories about the Obama Administration and talking about how the Cosby family was the REAL first black American family (Karl Rover really said this last night, as I spit wine through my nose).
So, I'll have to settle for a slow-paced and mild "correction" of the system, and a continued absence of accountability. It's far from fair or just, but I've become quite used to injustice. I'll take whatever I can get at this point.
November 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is this kind of defeatism that lead to the last eight years. I don't want blood. I want indictments, convictions and commutations. They don't have to spend time in jail, just have it be said they were CRIMINALS.
November 6, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I say oh so politely -
Dear Media: Bite Me!
November 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
The deal has already been done. Obama's FISA vote was where he laid down the line. He'll lead the country using his own best judgment, and no interest group--right or left--will bully him around. This is the press trying to walk back from the bullshit they've been pushing for so long. They're just trying to get ahead of the story so they'll look like they know what they're talking about. Too late for that, I'm afraid.
November 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
So true - they are struggling to prove their relevance. Buncha clowns.
November 5, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're right on here. This is a man who listens and thinks and charts his own course. But for what he views as the best course for the good of all. He's not going to bow to special interests. He's not out for money or personal grandeur. He's young and strong. And I don't sense that there's any enticement someone could try and offer him to knock him off a course if he feels it's right. He'll work to persuade. And he'll work to bridge chasms. He's going to be a man that historians will study again and again, to learn from.
November 5, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. President Obama is his own man. He's going to lead so you better get out of his way and be prepared to follow. And if you try to second guess which fork in the road he's planning on using, you'll end up lost. Just sit back, do your part, and enjoy the scenic views.
November 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
His choice of Rahm Emanuel should tell folks all they need to know about where Obama is going to govern from.
Obama is going to have to pick his battles with the Republicans, and I think the battle he's going to spend most of his political capital on is healthcare.
If he can get his comprehensive healthcare passed, and get America out of Iraq as soon as prudently possible - I think that's the best the progressives can hope for.
Obama knows pragmatically that you can't blow the door open on contentious social issues, but rather crack the door open and then keep pushing it open further gradually as each push becomes the accepted norm and status quo.
Now progressives absolutely should keep the pressure on Obama, absolutely. He needs to be held accountable to his promises from the primary, because he's also going to be pressured by the Republicans to be a true centrist (wouldn't they like that).
November 5, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
His choice of Rahm Emanuel should tell folks all they need to know about where Obama is going to govern from.
Exactly - from the Center Rollover To The Republican side of the Democratic Party.
We need to remember that Rahm & Democratic Leadership that he was a part of couldn't frame a Narrative coming out of 2006 that could get the War ended. Set aside all the bullshit about the President having the power of the veto, and Repubs in the Senate able to block the Magic 60. The reality is that House Dems never created the clear Narrative for the *vast* majority of the American Public that wanted the War ended:
The only way we can end the War is to Defund it.
A generation before in Nam, Congress had the balls to defud the War _and_ creative a Narrative that the public understood it was the only way to force Nixon's hand to bring the war to a close.
Our Dem Leadership, of which Rahm is the manipulative left hand of Nancy to Stenny's blundering right hand, were too chickenshit to do that.
And Obama just asked the key cave in, chickenshit centerist of that trio to be his Chief of Staff.
Add on top of him the pain in the ass Summers as Secretary of Treasurer (someone might want to ask TPM Cafe writer Robert Reich what he thinks of the influence of Rubin & Summers on Obama)... and a day into this not-even-inagurated Administration, it's already depressing as all hell.
Watch us get stuck with a Republican as Secretary of Defense, proving yet again that Dems can't be trusted with the Serious Business of running the Pentagon.
Hope...
I want so much to have hope, and let myself get caught up in it, in part due to the inspiring aspect of Obama and in part due to but bottomless well of loathing for the current Administration and their Lockstep Conservative Supporters.
Hope is fleeting. In short time, it's about deliving the goods. We're more likely to see "FISA Obama" (a chickenshit position that he staked out that gained him no political capital) than an Obama leading us to Universal Healthcare.
Deep down, which should already have known that, since his healthcare plan is chickenshit rather than a bold, visionary one to take us to single payer, universal healthcare.
Sorry for the rant. I'm vastly happier to have been sitting here in Cali last night when Cali put Obama over the top rather than seeing McCain and the Zombies win another 4 years. That if for no other reason than what Glenn Greenwald pointed out this morning. But I voted for *more* than just preventing more like Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Scalia to the bench.
The "more" that is promised by Rahm and the likes of Summers isn't what I want, nor really what the country needs.
John
November 5, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I think he should move further left on a couple of things - mainly healthcare and the financial crisis. We could stimulate the economy by bringing healthcare to all (can you say 'single payer?'). And, we need to force the banks to start lending the bailout money they are getting, even if it means threatening to nationalize them the way Europe does during crisis.
November 5, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Two things: (1) haven't we learned yet that any unnamed Obama "adviser" usually isn't in the know? and (2) Obama generally doesn't bow to pressure or conventional wisdom.
I expect him to chart his own path and govern the way he campaigned.
November 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama wasn't elected by the liberal establishment. He wasn't propped up by any of the major left-wing groups early on. He is beholden to no one but the millions of supporters that carried him to victory last night.
This is something that the MSM has obviously forgotten. He has no "quid pro quo" to deliver. He has a mandate from the people to do what is right and what is best without having to appease the sense of entitlement of any liberal organizations.
That's why I voted for him and why I think millions of other people did as well.
November 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard a number of pundits on CNN and MSNBC talk about how, because of the internet fundraising, he is the first president in the modern era not to come into office beholden to K Street and Wall Street. And that this will make setting and implementing his agenda much easier.
November 5, 2008 1:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Will they never let go of this????
November 5, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
The North Carolina election director said this morning that the provisional votes left will likely increase Obama's lead. It looks pretty safe to put NC in Obama's column.
November 5, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yet another reason to hate Nader: he called Obama an "Uncle Tom" yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo
November 5, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not worried about these memes any longer. The American people have now proven they can sort through the BS. I know rabid Hillary supporters that now feel about Obama the way I always have. The same thing will happen to many who voted for McCain, assuming Obama doesn't screw up. It just takes time.
November 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama did not get elected by listening to the media and what they want. I am getting tired already listening to the pundits trying to tell Obama how to lead. Give our President-elect a few days to take care of his grandmother and his campaign aide that will have funerals soon. My new pet peeve is the center-right crap. American did not elect a center-right administration. Pundits...listen to us!
November 5, 2008 1:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I surprised that the MSM has begun to chirp about the dangers of unfettered liberalism? Not at all. It is to be expected. This is a period of adjustment. The Reagan era is over. All the baggage that went with those times will take years to toss overboard. Part of that baggage is the notion that Americans are collectively right of center people, who only now and again have some sort of brain fart and vote for a left of center president. That's rubbish. Americans are centrists by and large who want to protect the parts of the New Deal that affect them, but at the same time want to enjoy the individualism of the old American Dream.
The MSM needs to remember Obama's election agenda included some unabashedly left of center stuff. Health care reform is high on that list. People knowingly voted for him anyway.
America went into the Obama era with eyes wide open. That much of his agenda does not conform to the Reagan era MSM conception of sound politics is neither here nor there.
Voters wanted health care reform; they wanted more equable tax rates; they wanted corporate excesses reined in; and they wanted to undo the Bush wars. If that sounds leftish, then so be it.
That's what democracy is all about: people voting for what they want!! I suppose the MSM and its outmoded views will have to adjust. Meanwhile we should expect more of these odd warnings about the dangers of pandering to various left wing groups.
As far as I can tell it would be better called serving the will of the people as expressed in yesterday's election.
November 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"This country is center-right" is a meme that has been blaring from most MSM talking heads for the last month. And perhaps it is still true . . . to an extent. But I think that, with every new election cycle, as the next wave of younger, first-time voters comes into play and the eldest demographic (those who lived through three actual wars plus a cold war, as well as a civil rights movement) shrinks, this nation moves a bit to the left. As well, with every new election cycle, as the white majority shrinks and eventually becomes merely a plurality when compared to all other ethnic/racial groups, this nation moves a bit to the left.
The young people and minorities who voted yesterday went overwhelmingly for Obama; they identify with him and see in him more of what they want for themselves and for this country. I cannot see this country remaining center left much longer -- if indeed it actually is -- even assuming that we tend to become more conservative as we age.
November 5, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm...wondered how long it would be before the MSM started talking about Obama's failed presidency. Looks like about 12 hours.
November 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
O I don't think so - not at all.
He's going to have one long press honeymoon.
November 5, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dick Lugar has re-iterated that he isn't going to join the Obama Cabinet in any role. He said he has very good relationships with Biden and Obama and wants to help bring bi-partisanship back to national security working with them from the Senate.
Makes a lot of sense to me.
November 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM memes have been wrong every step of the way. This is just par for the course.
Fortunately, Obama has refused to listen to or follow the MSM every step of the way, too. Which gives me confidence that he will do what he thinks is right regardless.
But again, as Obama himself would be the first to say, albeit more eloquently, it's still up to us. To hold him accountable. And more importantly, in my view, to hold Congress accountable. And if we do our thing at the grassroots level on issues over the next four years the way we made the Obama ground game work in the election, WE will prove the MSM dead wrong again.
November 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
The most consistent theme of Obama's campaign is to get beyond the smallness of partisan politics. If that means anything it's that true solutions are what's good for America and not what's good for this group or that group. That's what I expect him to do. There will be much caterwauling as people don't get their way, but the operative word in "Yes we can" is "we"...as in "We the People..." That means everybody.
November 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
My two cents worth...
Seeing how we went to all this trouble to elect the first black man as President, the least we could do is call him President. He's actually earned the title.
November 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
huh??
1. what exactly are you referring to?
2. obama isn't president.
November 5, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg
You offer: "Obama called for a progressive agenda that includes "spreading the wealth," and McCain called him a socialist and a "re-distributor." And the American people made their choice -- resoundingly. There will be tremendous pressure on Obama to forget this."
Forget which this? From the rest of the post and the comments it seems that the "this" is some sort of projected ideal of what folks want Obama to be. And if that is so, that approach seems to turn the straw man into more of a real issue.
Changing the tax laws and fixing health care is one way to go that might match up to whatever visions folks have. But there are probably some more progressive acts that many want too.
Given the ambivalence in the electorate (see California's propositions; 8 and the move to more prisons rather than trying to help non-violent drug offenders) indicate less than progressive interests in a state that loves Obama) and the spread between Obama wins and the senator races, this Presidency may have to balance more than many want.
And too whomever mentioned Obama jujitsu. Yes. His patience and ability to let the press make up nonsense which he then deflects is great.
November 5, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
greg did not offer that. he was attempting to paraphrase krugman there.
November 5, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
The so-called "mainstream media", which is comprised of a handful of giant corporations that own virtually all of the mass media in the USA, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of America's Ultra-Rich Ruling Class, Inc.
The job of the corporate media's vapid "on-air personalities" and vacuous "pundits" is to propagandize the American people in furtherance of the right-wing corporatist agenda of its owners.
Of course the "mainstream media" is busily "warning" Obama that he dare not govern based on the overwhelming mandate of the American people for progressive change. Of course the "mainstream media" is proclaiming that Obama must govern "from the center" -- by which they mean he must continue the Cheney-Bush policies of putting the interests of the corporate ruling class, who think of themselves as "the center" of the universe, above those of everyone else.
The "mainstream" media is the propaganda arm of America's corporatocracy. This election doesn't change that.
November 5, 2008 1:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
MSM:
Multiple
Stupid
Magpies
November 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
one of my biggest pet peeves is the pervasive misuse of the term "corporatist".
it's like naming your band "sonic youth" and ignoring the fact that there's already a band called "sonic youth" and they've been around for a very long time.
"corporatism" already means something very real in political terminology. ignoring this fact and using the term "corporatism" to mean something entirely different makes it very difficult to have intelligent conversations about politics.
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November 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
How would this even work?
November 5, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like Obama and his aides are being smart.
Clinton pushes universal healthcare early, GOP wins a landslide in 1994.
I'm just saying....
However, if done carefully, there is much greater support now for real fixes to healthcare and entitlements. But if its handled rashly, we'll spend the next 8 years posturing some more with nothing to show.
November 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
There was plenty of support for healthcare reform in 1993. (Their proposal was NOT universal healthcare.) I recall seeing Bob Dole saying that they agreed they needed to do something about the problem. The Clinton team just screwed it up.
November 5, 2008 1:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's what I'm trying to figure out. There are like eight Big Things Obama wants to push-- in no particular order including healthcare reform, gay rights, an end to the Iraq war, energy reform, and Something About The Economy. Basically any one of these things, if he starts out working on that one people will complain he ought to be working on the other four instead. And basically any one (except maybe energy reform, which is pretty milquetoast I guess) if he screws it up, it could be an event like Clinton's health care moment that obliterates Obama's ability to get anything done on the other four for his rest of the term. Oh, and if he waits too long to get started on any of the four, that also could mean that the magic moment that's happening now fades and America collapses back into apathy and bickering, also destroying his ability to get anything major and realigning done.
So if he's trying to get the things that can be done without re-polarizing the country out of the way first, then-- what does he start with?
November 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any word from tellmemore today?
November 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill-O's already hopped on the "OMG OBAMA HAS A BIG PROBLEM" train. He basically said that Obama has a dilemma between alienating the country and not satisfying the "far left that got him here" or something. Um, not everyone that voted for him or supported him is far left.
I don't understand how you can alienate the country when 52% of the nation voted for you. You have to be pretty bad, like, as bad as the one that's leaving in 2 months.
November 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude - you're trying to make sense out of something Billo the Clown said.
Don't do that - it's not good for your brain.
Billo has to have something to bellow about - but he's on his way out. He's slipped in the ratings - below Keith and Rachel.
heh.
November 5, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill-O The Clown needs to stoke division because that's what pays his bills.
November 5, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, both of you are right :-) I just watch Fox News for the hell of it...and my dad always says "know thy enemy".
It will be effing hilarious to watch O'Reilly and Hannity tonight though--one of their heads may explode from trying to figure out what the hell just happened.
November 5, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"There's no doubt about it, this was a vote against, by the red-state folks who gave the victory to George Bush, it was a rejection of blue-state America. It was a rejection of their values, their attacks on the president. ... And the idea, it seems to me, that somehow the folks who won should now surrender part of whatever mandate they have to the folks who lost -- I can tell you, what we're hearing on this panel, people out there in red-state America are finding it very offensive."
Pat Buchanan Discussing the Bush Mandate
11/3/04 http://mediamatters.org/items/200811040020
November 5, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack has the bullypulpit and knows how to talk. He can go directly to the American people and force the congress to do whatever he wants them to do. And they better listen! As far as what the right thinks, they can take it and stick it up their wasilla!
November 5, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, gosh now, you betcha!! Yup Yup!
Katie Couric is going to be asking for a raise.
November 5, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
What about the center-right voters who made this a landslide? Partial insertion in the Fairbanks?
November 5, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Artur Davis and Harold Ford need to remove themselves from the "center-right" ideology of the DLC and run away, run away from Al From, who, along with McAuliffe, is part of the problem, not the solution.
November 5, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh hell ... is the DLC center-right? I thought it was technically center-left. When I say center-right, I mean the voters turned off by the DLC tactics who now tend to lean republican but want a centrist policy.
Any way it goes the DLC faction sucks ... the Democrat's version of neocons IMO.
November 5, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone thinking that we'll see anything close to Universal Health Care coverage any time soon needs to check the latest budget deficit figures
AIG is a black hole...and we've only just begun to bail the rest out
November 5, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone thinking that we'll see anything close to Universal Health Care coverage any time soon needs to check the latest budget deficit figures
AIG is a black hole...and we've only just begun to bail the rest out
November 5, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well then we better find us a left-wing group somewhere. Wonder if those two guys from the Worker are up to the job.
November 5, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can we remind the DLC too often that it was the Howard Dean 50 state strategy that gave Obama a mandate for change, not the the DLC strategy of pretend to be Republicans and lose FL and OH strategy?
November 5, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Move to the Center" OR
Move the Center!
November 5, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink