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McCain: I'll "Obviously" Help Obama With His Administration

Barack Obama and John McCain just spoke to the press poll for a few minutes in advance of their scheduled closed-door sit-down today. From the pool report:

Asked about the goal of the meeting, Mr. Obama said, "We're going to have a good conversation about how we can do some work together to fix up the country, and also to offer thanks to Sen. McCain for the outstanding service he's already rendered."

Sen. McCain was asked whether he would help Mr. Obama with his administration, and he responded, "Obviously."

Your pool tried to get the President-elect to answer a question on the auto industry bail out, but was shouted down by the pool sherpas. Mr. Obama finally said with a smile, "You're incorrigible."

Many of you have written in to ask (in horror) whether Obama might offer McCain an administration post, but so far aides to the two are only saying that they're expected to discuss future ways of potentially collaborating on issues like climate change, ethics reform and national service. The meeting is reportedly going to last 90 minutes, so lots of ground is likely to be covered, including (one imagines) various possible GOP cabinet or agency picks.

Meanwhile, First Read argues that we should give McCain a great deal of credit for this meeting, because "convening a meeting like this is easy for the victor, but much more difficult for the loser."

Late Update: Here's the joint statement from Obama and McCain on their meeting:

"At this defining moment in history, we believe that Americans of all parties want and need their leaders to come together and change the bad habits of Washington so that we can solve the common and urgent challenges of our time. It is in this spirit that we had a productive conversation today about the need to launch a new era of reform where we take on government waste and bitter partisanship in Washington in order to restore trust in government, and bring back prosperity and opportunity for every hardworking American family. We hope to work together in the days and months ahead on critical challenges like solving our financial crisis, creating a new energy economy, and protecting our nation's security."

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"convening a meeting like this is easy for the victor, but much more difficult for the loser."

Disagree.

McCain, like many ordinary men, is noble when nothing is at stake.

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McCain, like many ordinary men, is noble when nothing is at stake.

Wow. Bitterness from the victors. How becoming.

Thoughout his career McCain has taken risks when much was at stake. Obama, not so much.

I still wish the Obama administration much success.

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It is not bitterness to recall what a disgusting campaign McCain ran. He should be grateful that Barack offered him this opportunity to begin restoring his image.

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Actually, thanks to McCain/Palin campaign the threats against the President elect had risen and remain high. Thank you for all McCain favors.

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That's your definition of Obama taking on risk?

Throughout his career Obama has taken the safe path, never bucking his party, rarely acting on principle when it came time to actually vote. There were always reasons and excuses. By his own measure he is "pragmatic". Obama is definitely not a risk taker, that is for sure.

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Bucking your party is only the right move when the party is wrong. Hence, it was a good trait in McCain, whereas it was one we were not looking for in Obama

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Translation:
Democrats, always right
Republicans, always wrong.
holyhandgrenaid, foolishly consistent.

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Plenty of evidence over the past 8 years to prove the Republicans were wrong, and the Democrats were right. Your point?

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Thoughout his career McCain has taken risks when much was at stake. Obama, not so much.

Says you. And John McCain.

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And the historical record.

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I'm not sure the comment threads at The National Review qualify as a "historical record."

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Rather vague response. I notice there isn't a detail to be found.

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This was to tellmemore, not EH.

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Plenty of details to be found on McCain to support my statement. Alas, a dearth of details on anything Obama has ever done.

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How old are you?

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tellmemore, I make no claims re: Obama. You do re: McCain...minus substantiation. You sound like Simple Sarah saying there are "lots of 'em", "most of 'em" to back up your absurd position. Nonsense.

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Why are you under the impressin that I owe you anything. You want to spend time trying to prove me wrong, have fun. as you're doing so, you'll find I am right.

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I am under no "impressin" of any kind except that you choose to blow hot gas around. You are under no obligation to shore up your unsubstantiated claims, even though these are forums in which one hopes to find sound verifiable information more often than not. Clearly, it won't be coming from you. (Dick Cheney wanted me to buy the notion that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, too, but he was also full of it.)
Since you blow your own horn, you can pay your own piper.

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Agreed. And I would add that good sportsmanship is really only difficult if you are a "type A" jerk.

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There is also something in this for him: the chance to rehabilitate the myth that he is a principled maverick who reaches across the aisle.

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Agreed.

What's unclear is whether McCain means what he says or merely wants to appear to be cooperative.

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Actually, I'm certain Obama will not rely on McCain at all. McCain has zero influence in his own caucus and doesn't have any conviction on any of the important issues.

And whatever posture of unity at display will falter when the Iraq withdrawal takes center stage.

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And whatever posture of unity at display will falter when the Iraq withdrawal takes center stage.

You may want to rethink your certainty in light of McCain being a valuable face for exactly that kind of change in military strategy. Say, like in putting a conservative/bipartisan face on withdrawal.

I don't know how you can deny McCain's value in this context, regardless of whether Obama uses it or not. 40-something percent of the country still likes the guy enough to vote for him.

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Disagree about the 40-something percent liking him. First, you have to account for the, what is it, 29% that still thinks Bush is doing a good job, so we're left with 17% of the country that voted for him not just because he was a republican. Out of that 17%, a decent chunk voted against Obama more than for McCain. My wager is a max of about 10% actually still like him as Seantor John McCain as opposed to Republican Presidential nominee John McCain

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A distinction without a difference. His image has value.

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VERY well said.

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I am not going to dump on the man for grace in defeat. Beyond that, the meeting was a political win-win for both going forward

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...convening a meeting like this is easy for the victor, but much more difficult for the loser.
Which is funny, because I don't remember George W. ever convening such a meeting in any of his Presidential victories.

I commend McCain for his grace in defeat, and for accepting this show of unity. I just wish our "liberal media" would be more honest in admitting that the moral and ethical standards they seem to take for granted from the left are never applied to any serious degree to the right.

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AMEN.

Hey, remember that meeting W held with Gore before W was inaugurated? You know, after that election where Gore actually won the popular vote? THAT ONE?

Obama's victory over McCain was a butt whipping by comparison. It would indeed by nice if the liberal media, or any freaking media at all, at this point, would maybe, you know, sort of contrast the incoming Administration with the outgoing Administration and how each responded during the transition, rather than blathering endlessly about how gracious W is being.

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Does anyone realize how moronic the press has become?


This:

Sen. McCain was asked whether he would help Mr. Obama with his administration, and he responded, "Obviously."

Is a total waste of time, energy and oxygen.

Seriously. If he's going to actively undermine Obama, you think he'd actually admit it? If he's going to be lukewarm, and do a lot of ankle-biting, you think he's going to admit it?

What a load of crap. I'm not near a TeeVee, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts there's probably a ticker reading "McCain: "Obviously" I'll help the new administration"". Just shoot me.


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Interesting point here, but of course anyone who watched The West Wing sees the life-imitating-art trend of Obama's campaign (largely as Jimmy Smits' character was loosely based on Obama) But were he (god forbid) to offer McCain a role in his administration, it would be yet another creepy parallel


Just thought I'd throw that out there

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As I wrote on a previous thread, the Vinick-McCain analogy is not quite solid.

First, the Santos victory was extremely close - decided by a razor-thin margin in New Mexico, with its five EVs.

Second, Santos needed to get a VP approved by a hostile repug senate, and was dealing with a leadership fight in a House with a tiny dem majority.

Compared to Santos' situation, Obama has nearly the divine rights of kings.

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Well, if you had followed the conventional wisdom of how this election might have turned out for any "ordinary" candidate, a razor-thin win fought in only the battleground states -- like New Mexico -- would be dead-on-target. And the hostile Republican Senate was exactly where we were in 2004.

So Lawrence O'Donnell based his storyline on the facts as they were then.

But nobody counted on the kind of campaign Obama ran.

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OT: I find it particularly pathetic John "Center Right" Meecham is telling us what Obama can learn fron his new book now we all know the President Elect has a particular inclination toward Team of Rivals.

I find Meecham disgusting. And I'm certain he has something do to with the "Is Obama Anti-Christ?" headline in the recent edition of Newsweek.

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I hope Obama had said something like this to McCain on the way into the meeting:

"By the way, John, I invited an old friend of mine along today. His name is Bill. I believe you know of him -- you certainly talked about him a lot in the past few weeks."

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IF McShame has a conscience, and IF he feels some measure of guilt over the sleazy way his campaign was run, and IF he no longer feels the need to kowtow to the the wingnuts, then cooperating with Obama on issues where there's potential for common ground -- like climate change and ethics, as noted -- is a perfect way for him to try to restore his legacy. If all this comes to pass -- regardless of his motives -- that would be a good thing for America.

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So does this mean that McCain pals around with terrorist sympathizers and quasi-socialists?

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Yes. But not terrorists or socialists. One degree of separation can mean alot.

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Obama and McCain need to work together, we all need to think about what unregulated oil prices and futures mean to the World economies.

I hope that both of them realize that the American consumer is the one in need of a bailout.

Everyone in the oil industry should be up on treason charges for letting the price per barrel of oil be manipulated by the futures market and go as high as 147 USDollars per barrel.

The American consumer is broke and not paying there bills because they and the world economy has be robbed by the oil companies.

If one penny ( 1 cent ) per gallon of gas amounts to 1/4 Billion dollars and the price of gas goes from $1.00 before the secret energy meeting that V.P.Chaney had - at the beginning of the Iraq war - with the oil companies to recent past were up to nearly $5.00 per gallon.

How much money is that being sucked out of the American consumers pockets and the World economy?

That 1 cent or 1/4 Billion increase in expense for gasoline multiplied times 400 percent is 100 Billion dollars being sucked out of consumers pockets per day.

Is it any wonder the economy is broken the consumer is in debt up to there eye balls paying for gas to get to work and back.

With wages and income taxes stagnating for the last 20 years the only hope is to refund all income taxes collected last year to everyone that paid taxes last year without exception. How's that for a bailout idea?

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If McCain had campaigned as the "Maverick" he claims he used to be (and I say used to be because he certainly was willing to forego the title to pander to the christian right wing nut cases and employ the Bush/Rove thugs to run his campaign) and instead run as a real Maverick with new ideas, perhaps he would have given Obama a run for his money (no pun intended).

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