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Hillary Doesn't Deny Secretary Of State Talk

Hillary, at a transit industry conference in New York, just addressed all the chatter and speculation about Obama's supposed consideration of her as Secretary of State and her reported meeting with Obama in Chicago yesterday. She conspicuously didn't deny any of it.

CNN cut in to televise her remarks. Here's the key part of what she said:

"I have to start by saying I'm very happy there is so much press attention and interest in transit -- especially guesses about my own. But on the off chance that you're not here for this important issue, and are here for some other reason, let me just say that I'm not going to speculate or address anything about the president-elect's incoming administration.

"And I'm going to respect his process, and any inquiries should be directed to his transition team..."

No talk about how happy she is right now in the Senate, etc., etc., so you have to assume discussions of some kind of Obama administration role for her are active. One caveat: CNN quotes sources saying she was "surprised" at the rumors about the Secretary of State post.


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It is non-denial-denial. Classic washington speak. She is going to be a sectretary under Obama's administration. Perhaps, a secretary of health and human services.

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Perhaps, a secretary of health and human services.

I don't think she'd leave the Senate for HHS.

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This is simply great political drama.

Obama know's exactly what he's doing and HRC is playing her role very well I might add.

Gotta love this stuff.

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Howard Dean for HHS.

Or Surgeon General.

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Al Giordano pretty much puts paid to the whole idea of Hillary being considered for Secretary of State today:

The speculation over Senator Hillary Clinton as a possible Secretary of State in the Obama administration did not begin - as many are reporting - with Andrea Mitchell's report yesterday on NBC, based, she said, on "two Obama advisors."

(Obama has more than 700 titled advisors on foreign policy alone. There's good reason why they received a memo that instructed "do not under any circumstances speak to the press." You can't shoot a cannon ball up Pennsylvania Avenue these days without hitting two or three of them, but that doesn't put them in the loop, and the ones that are in the loop aren't talking to Andrea Mitchell or anybody in the press about inside information.)

No, it was not Mitchell that first floated this Hindenburg balloon. It was former Clinton White House aide (and reliable media spinner for all agendas Clinton) George Stephanopoulos on who first dropped HRC's name for Foggy Bottom last week. ABC's Jake Tapper reminds:

George Stephanopoulos reported Clinton's name being in the mix last week on Good Morning America

The whole thing is a media freak show being served up by members of the Clinton factions in the Democratic party and obliged by a national media (some of them also Clinton noisemakers) in search of a story. The speculation is not because Senator Clinton wants the job, but because her people so desperately want to muddy the waters and throw up a roadblock to either New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson or Massachusetts Senator John Kerry - two of the leading contenders - serving in the post, whom they consider turncoats for having endorsed Obama vs. Clinton earlier this year.

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The US Department of State's budget for FY 2009 is $11.4 billion dollars.

What makes anybody think that somebody that so mismanaged her presidential campaign and its finances - still millions in debt - is going to be tapped to manage an 11 billion dollar budget with Embassies across the globe?

President-elect Obama is going to meet, in Chicago, on Monday with Republican Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham: the same courtesy he's reportedly given Senator Clinton. Shall we read into it that one of them will become Secretary of State? (No, we won't, because their people in the media won't be pushing such rumors.)

The conflicts of interest of former President Bill Clinton and his Clinton Global Initiative - a "charity" with a $208 million dollar surplus, undisclosed donors, many of them foreign - signify that before Senator Clinton could hold the post of Secretary of State, Bill Clinton and Terry McAuliffe would have to disband their own "shadow state department" that is the Clinton Global Initiative.

Given Al's 100% track record on such matters, and Mitchell repeatedly being conned by the Hillary campaign during the primaries, I'll go with Al on this.

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that is an interesting take...

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Touche!

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Good read... we'll see.

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I'm towing the Al line as well. Too much pomp and circumstance for Clinton to REALLY be in contention.

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I'd agree with you but I don't see a reason why Obama team would remain totally inert for almost 24 hours in their response.

Obama flank's reluntance to dismiss the story in any fashion or atleast distance confirms to me Hillary is in the mix.

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Obama dismissed this last week, when he told the press "When we have announcements to make, we'll make them."

It was a generic dismissal of all rumors. No need to give this one any special treatment.

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I think from multiple accounts its clear Hillary did meet with the President-Elect in Chicago.

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I'm sure they had plenty to talk about.

You may have noticed that there was a significant Health Care initiative announced by Senator Baucus this week.

There's no indication from anyone who knows that the meeting was about HRC becomins SOS, or SO anything else, for that matter.

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I agree with you, partly. We cannot make an assumption she was there to negotiate for the SOS position.

Though I don't think Hillary flew to Chicago to discuss the Senate Healthcare initiative either. That doesn't fit into the jigsaw puzzle.

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I just have a weird feeling Hillary was offered some other position and not the SOS.

Dorris Kearns Goodwin is one happy woman these days.

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Possible Kash, but what? I can't think of any position that she is, both, qualified for and would want. Forget State, Defense, Treasury, and Justice - so what then?

She has the possibility of a long and powerful career in the Senate - one that many would give an arm to have. What other position could be as attractive?

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Two questions, folks. I may be ill-informed, although I don't think so, but why does everyone seem to think Hillary is qualified for SOS or SCOTUS?

1) Does she have foreign policy chops I never heard about?

2) Does she have some heavy legal chops I never heard about?

I don't understand why anyone is taking these rumors seriously.

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I don't think she's qualified for the highest court. But I do think she's qualified to be the SOS. That's just my opinion, thought. Also, while I think she is qualified I do think Gov.Richardson is better qualified.

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Maybe. Also remember the vacuum the press was in (and us) during VP-search 08. I think we are seeing speculation turn into news. We won't really know anything until it is actually announced.

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Personally, I think HRC would be better suited for the Supreme Court than State. Think about it for a second. With HRC on Supreme Court, she would outlast 2 terms of Obama. She would be the Democrats response to Palin...the gift that keeps on giving. Her being a SCOTUS justice would be the itch that could never be scratched by the repugs.

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Personally, I think HRC would be better suited for the Supreme Court than State. Think about it for a second. With HRC on Supreme Court, she would outlast 2 terms of Obama. She would be the Democrats response to Palin...the gift that keeps on giving. Her being a SCOTUS justice would be the itch that could never be scratched by the repugs.

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Personally, I think HRC would be better suited for the Supreme Court than State.

Hillary likes the limelight and attention. It's not critiscm, just an observation.

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Too bad, cause she'd get all the attention she could ever want in a lifetime if she were on the Court. She'd be beyond their reach but could smack them down hard everytime they stick their heads out of their holes.

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I was not referring to the kind of attention Justices usually get. I was thinking more in terms of the attention we are used from Senator Clinton. I don't think Supreme Court Justices prefer or advised such attention.

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I have to agree. The Justices are more sequestered from the public eye than politicians, and rightly so. Though I would dearly love to watch a bench squabble between HRC and Scalia, I can't see her taking that gig when she could mix it up on the Cabinet and maybe....maybe...take another run at the WH later on. If she went to SCOTUS now, she'd be the opposite of W.H.Taft, who always wanted to be on SCOTUS and reluctantly became President first!

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Plus, it would be harder to keep an eye on Bill if she were stuck in Washington.

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How do you imagine that she is qualified for such a position? She has no experience as a judge or a litigator that I know of. Am I wrong?

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Judicial experience is not necessary for SCOTUS. It's a very different beast than a regular judicial appointment. Hillary's legislative experience would be helpful and would give a different perspective to the one currently on the court.

I would be very happy with Hillary on the SCOTUS. But that's just theoretical right now; I think we have a full complement of justices at the moment.

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Can we talk about Al's 100% track record on who Obama would choose as Veep?

I love Al's work, but Al ain't infallible.

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While Al did express a personal preference for Brian Schweitzer, I don't recall him making a prediction.

When was that?

He was very good at debunking the predictions of others, though.

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I'll see if I can find the link, but he did a lot of writing about Tim Kaine.

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Here's one link, if you're interested...

The Veep game

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Thanks. A lot of digging through tea leaves, and he does rah-rah a bit for Kaine, but still falls far short of a prediction.

It does contain these words of true wisdom, though:

The thing is, somebody will be upset by any of these choices (maybe even me). Obama can't worry himself too much about what I or anybody else thinks. He's got to pick someone he can live with and trust for four or eight years.

Reason enough to eliminate Hillary from the SOS job, to my mind.

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Here's more tea leave reading on Kaine, and I'm pretty sure there's more, but I think you get the point:

More speculation about Kaine

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Yeah, still up in the air. I could read that to be as much leaning toward Schweitzer as Kaine.

I don't really think he ever made a prediction.

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Whew!!! I was getting worried on this one. No more clintons in the whitehouse. I can't handle the drama.

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Campaign Diaries has a rundown of the impact Obama's nominations will have on the 2010 landscape - and there's a lot to discuss including the big list of Dems who would be looking to get Hillary's seat or the fact that Sebelius or Napolitano moving to DC would help the GOP keep the AZ and KS Senate seats and give Republicans the AZ governorship.

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You know what drives me crazy? Every single time I read this sorta line:

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to release the information.

Please don't speak if you are not authorized, dammit.

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Again, I refer you to Al Giordano:

Obama has more than 700 titled advisors on foreign policy alone. There's good reason why they received a memo that instructed "do not under any circumstances speak to the press." You can't shoot a cannon ball up Pennsylvania Avenue these days without hitting two or three of them, but that doesn't put them in the loop, and the ones that are in the loop aren't talking to Andrea Mitchell or anybody in the press about inside information.
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Yes, I read your above post after posting my rant. And Al does make sense.

(But you know, we see the "spoke on condition of anonymity because s/he was not authorized to speak" line too often, don't we? Not just about this one or the whole transition process but also in general. Who are those people, really.)

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Right. So it's a fact that no one in the loop is talking to the press, because Giordano says it's a fact? Just because someone makes a sweeping statement with a lot of confidence doesn't make it true. Do people think we're really going to go through four years of an airtight White House. That the administration will never leak information for its own purposes?

The fact that he portrays Stephanopoulos as being in the Clinton camp is enough to bring his credibility into questions. Didn't any of the people promoting Giordano's post notice that it is entirely free of any supporting evidence or arguments, and is made up entirely of a series of sweeping statements by Giordano?

And I really don't think the ability to manage a budget is the first priority in the selection of an SoS.

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"Hillary joins secretarial pool"

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Personally, I think Hillary would be far more effective as Senate Majority Leader - finally put some spine where Reid just could not.

She'd make a great Secretary of anything, but leading the Senate would accomplish so much more.

Richardson would be perfect for the Sec. of State role! He has the experience, the right persona and, dare I say, a understanding of ethnic cultures. All very effective qualities in restoring positive foreign views of America the Bush Administration just obliterated.

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It goes without saying that Gov Richardson would also make a very fine Secretary of State. I would not discount the advantages of Sen Clinton in that office, however.

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I am not discounting her role as SOS, either - I think she'd be terrific! But personally, I feel her experience will get more accomplished for this country with her leading the Senate. Reid does not have the spine for it, but Hillary definitely does and things would get done!

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It appears that Hillary is DEFINITELY in the mix and the fact that the Obama team leaked it means that she is the frontrunner. The Obama team would NEVER had leaked it out unless she was up there. Why leak this if they weren't serious about it?

The Obama team leaked this AFTER Obama met with Hillary privately on Thusday so there must have been very serious discussions about her being the Secretary of the State and it must have gone well.

If Obama offers it to her I bet she takes it. I think being the SoS is something that she would be extremely good at and I think she would thoroughly enjoy it.

Obama is going to have his hands full with the economy and 2 wars. He probably thinks that he needs to put the strongest person he could find for this job so he could focus else where. I prefer Richardson but I have to say that Hillary would do an EXCELLENT job too.

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Underlying assumption to your reasoning is that it was the Obama team that leaked this, and I'm just not convinced of that.

That they met, yes. That she will most likely be offered something big if she wants anything that he can appoint/nominate now, yes. That she's seriously being considered for Secy of State? That doesn't really fit her, not her best strengths or deepest interests, I don't think.

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Andrea Mitchell said it was high senior Obama people who leaked it to her. It was NOT from the Clinton people.

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I think Hill would excell at her job if she was offered SecState. My leanings is towards Richardson though, it seems that job was made for him.

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As you put it yesterday.

"Breaking: Obama Worked Out This Morning, Reporters Couldn't See Him"

This all gets sillier every day. Further evidence that there isn't enough news to fill up all of the publishing space.

A couple of unidentified sources supposedly whisper in a WP speculators ear and the reports goes viral and somehow becomes credible.

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msm (including blogosphere) now guided by national enquirer's lofty journalistic ethics.

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Given the number of Lieberman posts here on TPM EC over the last week, I'm pretty surprised there isn't one about Lieberman reaching out to Obama and getting a call back from . . . Biden.

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Joe Biden is 66 and in 4 years will be 70 and I suggest he will step down and Hillary (now 61) will step in as VP in Obama re-election campaign.

Her role in current Obama administration or staying in Senate will be to prepare for that spot.

Assuming Obama is 2 term - Hillary will be 69. If she wants the Pres. job at 69 - it's hers.

Also selecting her as next VP will take the wind out of any gender-play Republicans wish to make.

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Not totally preposterous but that's some hypothesizing. I just hope Obama is not thinking on those terms. I don't mind seeing Hillary as a second terms VP or President after 8 years but I don't see how current cabinet positions can be determined with those assertions.

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Thanks for the laugh!

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Very interesting idea. I like it.

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Biden will simply reinforce the idea that the VP slot isn't the way to the presidency. I could seem there for both terms if he wanted. Or perhaps some rising young star as the second term VP. I would hate to see anymore 69 year old presidential candidates, no matter who they are.

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Co-sign. Pages have been turned and sequels are invariably flops. Time to bring in new blood and new ideas.

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Personally, I think this year's election showed that there should NOT be a "coronation" nomination. Obama's 50-state strategy would have been a lot harder to put together if he only had to seriously campaign in 3 or 4 states in the primary.

I think Biden should spend all 8 years as VP and we need to start all over in 2015 with a fresh new group of candidates who make a contest out of every single primary.

Besides, I seriously doubt Hillary will be running for POTUS again at 69. I'm with Josh Marshall on this one:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/244345.php

I don't get why Hillary would want to cut short what could be a long fulfilling Senate career to spend 4 years in the cabinet.

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Are you considering Hillary Clinton?

It is one of those rare questions in Washington where any response becomes a story. We saw how this hand is played by the media during the VP selection process. If the response to the question is "no", then the media portrays it as a monumental snub of Clinton. If the response is "yes", then the media gets to fantasize and spectulate and diminish all others being considered. Even if the answer is "no comment", it still allows the media to speculate.

We've seen this movie before.

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Yep. People on the teevee keep saying over and over again, "The fact that Obama hasn't shot this down means she must be the frontrunner." But how exactly do they propose he "shoot it down"? Is he going to come out and say, "Hillary Clinton for SOS?! Pul-leeze!!"

He'd be more likely to do something more subtle like, I don't know, let people know he's talking to Bill Richardson about the position once he sees the media reading too much into the "no comment" temporizing?

While intellectually the media praises "No-Drama Obama," the concept is anathema to them. Drama is their sustenance. With the election and its built-in conflict over, the MSM's only remaining ratings bait is to bring drama to Obama.

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Umm, once again, I think it needs to be pointed out that one of the few policy-related attacks Hillary made against Obama in the primary was on his philosophy of diplomatic engagement...now who in their right mind things that that would make her a good choice to carry out that very same philosophy on behalf of Obama??

http://www.thepersonalispolitical.com/2008/11/hillary-clinton-as-secretary-of-state.html

Give me a goddamn break.

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Do you really think anyone takes the attacks by an opponent on the campaign trail seriously?

That's not a big deal.

I think the question is whether Obama can trust Hillary? And honestly none of us really know and only the President-elect is in the position to make a judgement.

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There was never any real argument over 'philosophy of diplomatic engagement' during the primaries. Obama made a minor rhetorical slip in an early debate, Hillary zinged in on it, and for the rest of the primaries they had a BS argument about 'preconditions' for negotiating. But none of it had to do with any disagreement over substance.

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I think that Obama is going to keep Gates as the Secretary of Defense because he has told Obama that he feels that withdrawing the troops from Iraq in 16 months is feasible. It was the Defense Department afterall who wrote an article in the Summer that withdrawal from Iraq in a matter of months is feasible. Gates will be cover for Obama when he goes toe to toe with Petaeus over getting out of Iraq.

Hillary as Secretary of State is the counterbalance to Gates as Secretary of Defense.

Obama has a strong enough ego to handle all of these strong personalities.

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Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State makes little sense. Whether she has met -- or can name -- the leaders of most countries around the world is largely irrelevant. As a senator, she has not distinguished herself as a foreign affairs expert, nor has she demonstrated great passion or creative approaches for global issues. This, of course, in not a criticism or "dig" at Sen. Clinton; it is just one way of suggesting that State may not be the best place for her. (I, for one, am holding out hope that she'd be offered a spot on the Supreme Court, if one opens up.)

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After reading Al's analysis, i don't think i want Hillary as Secretary of State. The conflict of interest is just too much to bear.

I don't like the Clinton's drama. The country want a break from this mess

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This make no sense what so ever. I'm disappointed in Obama if he chooses her for his SOS. She'd be better as Attorney Gen or Sec of Health.

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Do you think Hillary's foreign policy views mesh with Obama's? I don't think so. Hillary voted for the Iraq War and Obama opposed it which is just the most obvious difference.

Biden provides enough "contrary advice" in his role as a VP where Obama can seek that advice and follow or ignore it; Hillary at State would be shaping the foreign policy of this country on a daily basis. So, no, I don't see this happening.

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We shall see...

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Having Hillary Clinton in the Cabinet at all makes no sense. But I refuse to get worked up over rumors. Yes, I know we're all interested. And during the recent election (if not before), we've all become political junkies. But lets take a deep breath and relax.

If there's no news, the media have to invent some. Fine, I understand that. But let's just see what happens, huh?

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Most likely explanation: 1) Hillary is being considered for (or offered) something big. I'd say that is pretty much a given, in fact. 2) Sec'y of State is the biggest/most visible 'plum' hanging out there and the current focus of the media's/public's attention. 3) Obama camp is, as usual, NOT providing any leaks. ..... Therefore ..... media/public put 2 + 2 together and get 5. He must be considering her for Secy of State, right?

I don't doubt that Obama will consider her for and offer her pretty much whatever she wants but cannot buy that she would want that particular position or that that spot is the one No-Drama Obama would want her to fill. I see him going for a SOS that has that 'milkshake' quality ... everything goes down easily and smoothly and pleasantly. HRC is a fantastic **fighter**. --- And if the chief reason he didn't want to consider her as VP was the looming presence of Bill, why put her in a Cabinet spot right in his area of conitinuing fame and influence?

Attorney General? Health care czar? Secy of Labor (JOBS, JOBS, JOBS)? Supreme Court? (I can see HRC really relishing that position -- it may not look like it, but those are the fiercest fights of all!) All of those, and probably others, make more sense than State.

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Nature abhors a vacuum...and so does the news media. When there's no real news, they just take insignificant stuff and inflate it to look like real stories.

What we know is...Hillary Clinton met with Barack Obama. That's it. Everything else is idle speculation from people who really don't know anything. Nothing to see here. Move along.

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Just as in veep selection (John McCain smiles ruefully...), two words = three words

vetting process = ain't gonna happen.

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The entire HRC as SOS is a plant by Clintonites. She's simply not qualified. I agree with Al - The whole thing is a "media freak show" by MSM starving for some news. I feel Obama is just giving her a courtesy meeting, similar to the meeting scheduled Monday with McCain and Graham.

I also wonder how many more Senators Obama is willing to take from Harry Reid. If he takes Kerry as SOS, that leaves 3 vacancies on the Committee on Foreign Affairs on the Dem side - Himself, Biden, and Kerry. The good news would be Russ Feingold would move up to Chairman. But if Obama takes Lugar as SOS, Hagel did not run for re-election - So there would be no centrist Republicans left on the minority side.

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Hey TPM is behind the curve on this story. Over at Politico.com they're speculating on who the governor of NY will appoint to replace Clinton in the Senate.

Really, really, really, really stupid.

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A fine example of why Politico is only worth visiting when you are looking for a bellylaugh.

Kind of like The Onion without the self-awareness.

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A fine example of why Politico is only worth visiting when you are looking for a bellylaugh.

Kind of like The Onion without the self-awareness.

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Hey! The blog software told me the first version failed! More bugs.

For Onion fans, I used a different Onion story in each of the comments.

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I hope Hillary will have some role in the Obama administration.
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/41979/Not-going-to-speculate

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Although Hillary Clinton being some part of the Obama administration might be a good idea, I think the "Hillary as Sec. of State" story is just a really bad rumor.

I don't see President-Elect Obama putting someone with absolutely no diplomatic experience in such a high profile Cabinet post since the stakes are too high, and I don't think she'd take it anyway. As the nation's top diplomat, Hillary would have to give up all political fundraising and partisan positions. She'd have to take the "high road" and virtually throw away her email database. Hillary now has the opportunity to be one of the most powerful Senators on Capitol Hill. So why would she quit that job and take one where she could be fired at the drop of a hat (since every Cabinet Sec. serves at the pleasure of the President)?

Here is an interesting article about the whole story:
http://okwassup.blogspot.com/2008/11/secretary-of-state-clinton.html

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Cabinet positions should not be handed out as prizes or appeasements. Cabinet positions are about policy.

I strongly supported Obama over Clinton because I thought he had very different foreign policy objectives.

Word's could not express my disappointment if Obama appoints Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.

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The only reason I'd put Hillary at State is if she could negotiate a deal for the French health care system.

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I think Hillary for SoS is an interesting idea, and puts her under Obama's presidency instead of out there regaining power in the Democratic party over the next four years. I think SoS is the only position that would interest Hillary, she has already said she isn't interested in Supreme Court justice. And the media's obsession with Hillary shows that Obama needs to do something with her if he wants to keep the party under his leadership and direction.

I'm just grateful that Hillary has knocked Palin out of the news, Palin pales in comparison to Hillary.

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I also think that you can't sneer at Rice for being a Bush yes-woman but then expect Obama to select a SoS who will agree with him on everything.

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SHAME ON OBAMA !!!

I've gotta say that I am starting to get a bit disappointed in someone whom I voted on to bring CHANGE to this country ... and what is he doing: Out of all the appointees presented to date, over 50% of them are from the Clinton Administration ... and now he wants Hillary too!!!!

This is crazy!
And I certainly do NOT think that she is the best this country has to offer in the critical matters of foreign relations.

Mr. Obama is starting to look like all he can do is make "POLITICAL" decisions and not "SMART" decisions as we expected him to do when we vigorously campaigned and voted for him!

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So vilhiem, who are the people you have in mind who would be better than Hillary?

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Oh ... here is a link to Obama's Change.gov website. Please send him a message as to your views on this matter.
http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact

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I'd love to be a fly back stroking in your soup, y'all, when Hillary accepts the SoS position. Giordano will have to squeegee his monitor when he catches the news. (Don't worry about me. I will bring a see-through umbrella with window wipers to your soup bowl so my view of your droopy jowls is not interrupted, thus destroying my schadenfreude!)

I'm gratified to learn that Obama, though probably not as smart as Hillary, is far, far smarter than you. In Hillary he knows he will have a brilliant arbitrator and negotiator who will work her TAIL off for him for as long as he needs her. She is the absolute cream of the crop for the SoS position, one requiring a quick and agile mind, a grasp of complex issues on a multitude of international stages, and empathy. With this choice in front of her, why in the WORLD would she want to hang out in the senate?

The Obama fanatics should realize the campaign is over. Obama knows Hillary Clinton is a golden treasure to be dispensed with honor and care, and she knows Obama could be a great leader. She wants nothing more than to help. If you continue to suspect otherwise, then you can anticipate years of bitter hand-wringing no better than the wingnuts who wait endlessly for the opposition to make a mistake.

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