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GOP Mailer In Pennsylvania Suggests Electing Obama Could Lead To Second Holocaust

A reader sends in a nasty mailer that just hit Philadelphia-area in-boxes, blasted out by a GOP group called the Republican Jewish Coalition, suggesting that a vote for Barack Obama could lead to another "tragic outcome" for the Jewish people.

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"Concerned about Barack Obama? You should be," the mailer warns. "History has shown that a naive and weak foreign policy has resulted in tragic outcomes for the Jewish people."

The mailer helpfully notes that the image is a pic of Obama speaking in Germany.

That's the first page of the mailer, and according to the reader, the second page (which we don't have) goes on to hit Obama as weak and naive over his willingness to meet with hostile foreign leaders and his allegedly anti-Israel advisers. The mailer is a reprise of an earlier print advertisement that the group ran that made those points.

The mailer is similar to another viral email smear that has been making the rounds in the state: Last week the Pennsylvania GOP was forced to disavow an email to Jewish voters likening a vote for Obama to the events leading up to the Holocaust. Here you have the same point being made in blazing color.


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In the words of W - Bring it on.

Barack Obama will be the next POTUS and all this shit does is discredit the Republicans even further.

Every dime they spend on this crap is less money for the next round and is simply wasted. (I suppose it isnt wasted as it helps the printing industry and we can use all the stimulus we can get...)

I can't wait to hear Hail to the Chief played for Barack Hussein Obama. I hope he uses his full name at the inauguration.

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Time to get out there, and talk at length about just what Bush's foreign policy has accomplished. Maybe cut an ad or two, and run it in battleground states to remind people just how "steady" a hand McCain really has in an actual crisis.

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This is despicable. I want McCain to lose, and lose big, for any reasons, but one of the chief ones is that perhaps it will mean the end of such outrageous tactics.

I liked reading this on The Page:

Cheney: McCain "the Right Leader for This Moment in History"
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Yup. Any chance we can get that asshole to cut an ad for McCain before Tuesday? It could only help.

http://pufferfish.typepad.com/

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In the words of W - Bring it on.

Barack Obama will be the next POTUS and all this shit does is discredit the Republicans even further.

Every dime they spend on this crap is less money for the next round and is simply wasted. (I suppose it isnt wasted as it helps the printing industry and we can use all the stimulus we can get...)

I can't wait to hear Hail to the Chief played for Barack Hussein Obama. I hope he uses his full name at the inauguration.

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Not my fault. I think we need to come up with a name for the TPM server - HAL, Skynet, Master Control Program...

Hail to the Chief

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If this were satire, I would be laughing so loud.

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OT: I don't know if you all have seen this, but I think we need to write and or call our congressmen. This should not be allowed to pass, Bush should pay for his war crimes.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21113.htm

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You're a little late on that one. That ship has long since sailed. Jack referred to Frist and Hastert, and both of those guys are out of Congress and doing whatever it is evil soul-less Congressmen do after they leave the Hill.

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This is the real bottom-dwelling Republicans.

They go to church on Sunday and bare false witness against their neighbors on Monday.

Christianity have become an imperial cult.

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The haters will be removed from power. They should be disqualified for their hatred. This is a sad time for America, but hope and change will win!!!

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I keep mistakenly thinking they can't possible go any lower and they proving me wrong.

This is beyond despicable - this shit has no place in the United States of America.

Fucking Repugs - fuck you! I'm trying to get over hating you and you are not cooperating!

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I would like to cosign on the fuck you.

Republicans that think it's cute to send out this kind of mailer because ends justifies the means: fuck you. Honestly, fuck you.

In the immortal words of the pixies: Fuck off and die.

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I remember there once was a man running for the Presidency of the US and there was a question concerning his religious faith. The man was JFK and his religion was Catholicism. The self-proclaimed faithfull in the US were concerned that he would be taking instructions on governance from the Pope. He had to jump thru hoops to prove he was his own man and not beholden to a ecclesiastic icon of his faith.

I protest the influence of the State of Israel in political processes within the US. There should be legal barriers to stop foreign entities attempting to use American citizen of their faith to influence the voters to elect officials that meet their ideas and views. That's what the concern was over JFK and his faith. It should also apply to Israel too.

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Yup I remember.

The anti-Catholic jokes going around my grade school (!) were all heard at home from freaked out Baptist parents. And Church of Christ (which is worse than Baptist, even.)

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Tena, I spoke with the person concerning the rumor about Fitzgerald and as possible AG. They heard on it Hardball. That would have been last week-end. US news gets filtered here so it's a few days later that when you see it in the state.

I suspect it was a speculation, not fact and they thought it was fact.

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Thanks for filling me in - I would love to see that so much that I was hoping there was some basis for it-

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nottaworry!

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Stay classy to the end, goopers.

I think there is a place for a party that argues for limited government and reduced spending in the U.S.

But the GOP is no longer it...I think the GOP deserves to disappear for what they've done to us, and to the world.
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I truly do believe that this extremist wing of the Repug Party is going to go away.

I think rational conservatives will take over. If not, then the Repug Party is cooked for a century at least - cause they cannot win elections with just Palin's base - the nutjobs. There aren't enough of them. Either the Repugs get real and broaden their base, or they are functionally finished.

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if this were a real democracy you'd be right.

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Are you one of those people who think the whole thing is totally rigged?

We aren't a democracy. Never were. We are a Democratic Republic.

But that doesn't negate the fact that either you get enough votes to win the Electoral College or you don't and for two elections now, the Repugs haven't had them.

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Either the Repugs get real and broaden their base, or they are functionally finished.

They'll have to start in 2010 to do this, because the remaining Republicans are the same cast of idiots who helped ennable the Bush Administration. The Freedom Fryers, so to speak.

I look forward to when they realize we're living in the 21st century, not the 20th.

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So do you think the problem for the "rational conservative" politicians is that they (1) have not exercised sufficient influence within the GOP until now, or (2) that their aggressive efforts to grap and hold political power by stoking the wingnuts failed to anticipate the consequences of allowing the nuts to gain critical mass? I see the situation as the latter. My guess is that the big question for power-seeking "rational conservative" politicians is whether they (1) are willing to remain a minority for awhile as they rebuild a reality-based conservative party or (2) seek power as quickly as possible by mending fences with the nuts while also getting those folks to tone things down a bit. Personally, I suspect they will attempt the second of these two options leading up to the next presidential election, find it virtually impossible, take a massive hit at the polls, THEN pursue the first option.

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Yeah, I see it this way too:

(2) that their aggressive efforts to grap and hold political power by stoking the wingnuts failed to anticipate the consequences of allowing the nuts to gain critical mass? I see the situation as the latter


Reagan started this; Bush senior took it further (he's the one with the Sung Myung Moon connection) and then Junior went hog wild.

And they never thought for a moment that those people would actually take over because those big money old line Repugs thought they ruled the world.

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I live in PA and got a robocall this morning which I at first mistook as a legitimate poll since the caller ID said Natl Poler(sic) 08. I usually don't answer those things but on the chance it was legit I did. A male voice asked several questions regarding whether I had decided who to vote for and whether I was voting for McCain or Obama. Then he asked if I would support a candidate whose top economic advisor was a former CEO of Fannie Mae. Then he went on about Franklin Raines and all that crap and I realized I'd been punked. At that point I uselessly starting yelling how that was a lie and it was McCain with the advisor with ties to Fannie and missed who he said the caller represented. Has any other PA resident gotten this call?

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I live in PA and got a robocall this morning which I at first mistook as a legitimate poll since the caller ID said Natl Poler(sic) 08. I usually don't answer those things but on the chance it was legit I did. A male voice asked several questions regarding whether I had decided who to vote for and whether I was voting for McCain or Obama. Then he asked if I would support a candidate whose top economic advisor was a former CEO of Fannie Mae. Then he went on about Franklin Raines and all that crap and I realized I'd been punked. At that point I uselessly starting yelling how that was a lie and it was McCain with the advisor with ties to Fannie and missed who he said the caller represented. Has any other PA resident gotten this call?

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Have you contacted TPM with that call? I know Josh was asking people to let them know about robocalls.

And - your comment will post without hitting submit twice. If you get an error message, backpage and you ought to see your comment posted and still sometimes in the comments box, too, as if it hadn't.


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Thanks. I did e-mail TPM about the call. Is Josh still keeping track? I wasn't sure. I wish I remembered which group the guy said he represented. It wasn't the RNC.

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Thanks. I did e-mail TPM about the call. Is Josh still keeping track? I wasn't sure. I wish I remembered which group the guy said he represented. It wasn't the RNC. Got the message again and back-paged but don't see this so here goes again.

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Just 3 more days...

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I don't know. Their server may explode sooner.

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the reason the "culture wars conservatives" can't win anymore is because of US. There has been a generational shift. The post-war/babyboomers came of age during the civil rights movement, the sixties/seventies, the women's movement, lgbt rights, etc........and OUR children are growing up differently...........things ARE changing, because our generation raised their children, for the most part, DIFFERENTLY.

The dickbrains are dying out. Yes, there will always be the REAL base, but it will get smaller and smaller, and wackier and wackier, and more marginalized every year.

Our children couldn't care LESS about what color, sexual orientation, religion, or even political party you are.....they take you as they find you, they celebrate difference......and they are curious.....not afraid...

just my opinion....

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You are so so so right!

Your kids don't care - nobody's kids care about sexual orientation and skin color.


Or hardly any, anyway. The young people I know take all that for granted and it doesn't even register, much.

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I'm not convinced that's the problem. The problem is the Reagan philosophy + the religious right. The Reaganites used the divisions of the sixties to sell their snake oil but their ideology has yet to be defeated. The Democrats are still afraid to even confront it directly.

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You know what is wrong with your assessment?

This entire election is a referendum on that. And it's the second election that has been a referendum on that thinking.

And that thinking has now lost twice.


god you're a cheerful soul.

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I disagree. It's definitely a generational change election and that alone will tend to generate an opening for ideological changes but it's not really the same thing. The hard core movement conservatives who sold the ideology of Reaganism were not the Reagan Democrats who were reacting against the social change of the sixties. Those folks were movement conservatives long before and they were successful in taking advantage of the backlash against social change to sell the "survivor" worldview. If you look at American TV you see their success in every show built on the premise that success means throwing every other person off the island until you stand alone victorious. We aren't just fighting the culture of the religious right, we're fighting the culture of "survival of the fittest". McCain's problem is that his message of "country first" is at odds with Joe the Plumber's movement conservative message of "ME first". I'm still not sure what our message is. Oh, I forgot, "change".

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Dude, if you aren't sure of our message then you have not been listening.

IT's fucking clear as a bell - we're one goddamn country and we need to quit being divided up by ideology and come together to solve our problems.

Now anyone who has paid any attention to the Obama Camp should have heard that now several tens of thousands of times.

are you trolling, blue skies? I don't get it -

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one word: desperate.

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Sorry for the double post but the first time I got a message saying TPM's server was over capacity so I re-submitted. Oops.

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Strangely enough, the "history" in the mailer is way off. The mailer seems to argue that FDR's foreign policy was "naive and weak" while in reality America was fighting a two-front war when the Holocaust was happening, and FDR had made a commitment to defeating Nazi Germany first.

And who was opposed to American resistance to the Nazis? Let's see, hum, oh yeh, the Republicans and their naive and weak isolationism! The flyer isn't only offensive, it is the reverse of historical reality! If this is the GOP's idea of historical reasoning, I think everyone should be very, very frightened.

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During the 60's, there was the Vietnam war, the draft, the Cold War, the war on poverty, integration, and the start of a 17 year bear market/economic downturn.

Today, there's the Iraq war, Afgan war, no draft, and a severe economic downturn. There's nothing to galvanize their ambitions or political leanings. No one is going to force them to enlist in the military, college tuition is relative easy to get, and they still hang out at the nest while looking for a line of work that pays enough for them to strike out on their own. There's nothing pushing them to make decisions so the repug's are having a hell of a time finding people with an internal fire for them to use to do their bidding.

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Senator Obama is expanding his lead on the latest gallup:)

www.gallup.com

LV (Expanded): Senator Obama 52 - McWar 42 (-1 from yesterday)
LV (Traditional): Senator Obama 52 (+1) from yesterday - mcWar 42(-1 from yesterday)

It makes me happy.

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Talking to friends at a Halloween party last night. They go to church in the Battle Creek, Mich., area. Didn't ask them the name.

They're church-goers but also free thinkers. So they were upset about a sermon they recently saw. The pastor said they weren't to talk about it, it would be "PG-13," and no children could be there (apparently it was some sort of adults' service).

It started with a film with the message that they should only follow one savior (ok, not too radical) but they were showing the back of a black man giving a speech. Not Obama, but the message was clear, my friends said. They had no image of a white gray-haired politician, just a black one.

Then cam graphic shots of abortions.

My friends said others at the church were just as upset. It was blatant brutal propaganda.

I just want to see these freaks eat it. We need a LANDSLIDE for our soon-to-be president.

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Your friends should find a new church. No one should be subjected to that kind of crap.

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Front page of TPM has an article about Biden. He says the election is a whole lot closer than what anyone thinks. I wonder what they know that we don't?

It seems the Heidi Bowl option is still viable and may make a repeat performance.

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He knows that if Obama supporters don't think it's close, then it might end up being close. Or maybe he's just afraid of that and/or trying to GOTV because a win isn't good enough for him—he wants to bury the Republicans.

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I haven't read the article, but the consistent refrain from the Obama campaign, and Obama himself is the fear of complacency. No one from the campaign is going to go on record at this point and say anything but that the election is much closer than it appears. No one.

Same with the Republicans. Rick Davis is going to be shouting from the rooftops that the race is getting closer from now until the polls close on Tuesday. To do anything else would demoralize their already not terribly thrilled supporters.

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And another thought. We assume, when presented with comments about how close the race is, that they're referring to states like PA, FLA, or Ohio.

Well, the race is close in other states like Arizona, North Dakota, and Montana.

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Yeah - but the Obama's lead is not shrinking - it's growing.

I don't know where that is coming from - I'm not calling the election - don't get me wrong.

But man the conflicting messages to already utterly terrified Democrats is hard to take. I'm going with Obama and Axelrod who are both more relaxed and confident than I've seen them in the last 2 years.

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I think both campaign are saying what any campaign would say in their respective positions. Davis is going to insist that the polls are tightening, and he'll point to Zogby's number from yesterday and ignore every other tracking poll out there.

He's also going to say that their internal polls indicate it's getting much closer. I see this as motivational. Same with Biden's comments.

I guess the truth is probably reflected in where the campaigns are going to campaign this weekend. Obama isn't going to be in Pennsylvania, at least not yet. That says to me that he and Axelrod and Plouffe are reasonably comfortable about PA. And Biden said as much in that WaPo piece linked on the front page of TPM.

Who the fuck knows at this point?

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I agree.


I did read a funny damn piece last night in the NYT on Democratic paranoia. Apparently we are all like this and we must be working on each other, to a certain extent. ;)

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Yeah, but they're not trying to soothe we frazzled Dems. They want us nervous so we get out and WORK and VOTE. (And it's working on me, anyway...)

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The rhetoric of a "second holocaust" is taken from a particular, right-wing tendency in Israeli politics, although I have not seen this noted anywhere in the media. I've now posted a piece on this connection over at openDemocracy:

http://www.opendemocracy.net/usa

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what is the "heidi bowl"?

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Back in the '70s, the NY Jets were playing the Oakland Raiders and were comfortably ahead by 2 or so touchdowns with a little over 2 minutes left to play. NBC cut out from coverage of the game to show the network premier of "Heidi". Oakland staged a miraculous comeback and beat the Jets. Since then, Networks don't cut out of games before they are finished.

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That is the point where football metaphors break down totally.

What I mean is - in football one big mistake by the other side can carry you over the line very quickly. In an election, there's no fucking way someone can come in days before the election is over and make up that much yardage.

Unless something absolutely untoward was to happen - which would change everything and I don't think so - you can't operate on the idea that something extraordinary is going happen -

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Agreed. . .While "it ain't over till it's over", THE math (see 538.com, not Drudge or Fox News) is pretty compelling and an Obama victory seems to be in the works. . .

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Actually, they break down when people ask, "what is the 'heidi bowl'?" For the record, I didn't know what it was, either, but there's a lot about sports that I don't know.

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oh yeah, i remember that. my family were jets fans, and my dad almost blew a gasket. I, however, loved Heidi......

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Dems Fight Fire with Fire: Plan to Neutralize Dishonest GOP Flyers
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4461

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The RNC is hitting PA hard again with the mailers and calls saying Obama/the Democrats are going to take your guns away. They do this every four years. There are enough hicks in PA who will actually believe this crap to make a difference here. I live in a rural area and can testify to this. Down to 4 points!!!! OMFG!!!

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LOL!!!

this coming from the party whose candidate was on stage with ARNOLD today???? the guy who, when asked who he really admired, pointed to HITLER and his ability to connect to people????

WTFLOL!

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From http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/03/schwarzenegger.hitler/index.html

Disputing media reports of a book proposal transcript from the 1970s that paints a picture of a young Arnold Schwarzenegger as an admirer of Adolf Hitler, the California gubernatorial candidate said Thursday that he doesn't remember making the alleged comments and has always despised the Nazi leader.
According to the book transcript as reported Thursday by the Times, Butler considered Schwarzenegger to be a "flagrant, outspoken admirer of Hitler," who also frequently played Nazi marching tunes and "pretended to be an S.S. officer."
Also, according to the Times, the Butler book proposal quotes Schwarzenegger as saying, "I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education up to power. And I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it."
But Friday, the online edition of the Times reported Butler -- having checked a second transcript of the interview -- had found different wording.
"I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the people and so on. But I didn't admire him for what he did with it," the quote read, according to Butler.

As far as Republicans go, I don't think Arnold is all that bad. (Note the conditional there, however.)

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yeah ... kinda like, "i admire ayers and khalidi as educators, but not for their positions on certain issues, or for particular actions they took in the past."

anyhoo, like i said, arnold, when asked who he admired, came up with hitler IMMEDIATELY. he admired how hitler "[got] to the people." if obama is palling around with terrorists and jew-haters, then mccain is palling around with nazis.

PERIOD.

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to be a little clearer: my point is that if you're going to cast aside as irrelevant obama's qualifications of his admiration/association with khalidi and ayers, then the same can be said about arnold's qualification that he didn't approve of what hitler did with his "admirable" ability to manipulate people.

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I'm still pissed about my ObamaBiden sign being stolen. A couple days later another Obama sign disappeared up the road. The day I came home from work and saw mine missing a McCainPalin sign appeared in my neighbor's yard. A bunch of kids, including hers, were playing in the street and I almost asked them which one swiped my sign. GRRRR!!

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I'd fight a kid over that.

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LOL! Yeah or at least strike some fear into their little brainwashed hearts. Talk about paranoid Dems---I honestly considered getting another sign and rigging up one of those trailcams to find out who the culprit was.

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What are the odds John McCain doesn't win re-election in 2010?

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No way he runs.

Retirement home(s), here he comes.

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It's an exciting moment to be alive to see this kind of desperation. It really is. Because it's the last gasp of the republican revolution.

Dr. Cornell West~

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A reader sends in a nasty mailer that just hit Philadelphia-area in-boxes, blasted out by a GOP group called the Republican Jewish Coalition, suggesting that a vote for Barack Obama could lead to another "tragic outcome" for the Jewish people.

The irony is that it's the Rethugs who've been working from the Nazi/National Socialist playbook. This flyer looks like more of the same Rovian, "accuse your opponent of that which you yourself are doing," tactics that have reared their heads and come unbidden into our airspace for the past several months . . .

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Wow. The "Republican Jewish Coalition: putting the troll back into "concern troll" since 2008.

Funny thing is, odds are that this group is funded, and composed of, a bunch of Texas gazillionaire gentiles.

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WRONG ! Your mailer is a falsehood and you know it. Your bold-faced lies will NEVER prevail !

You [ Barack Obama], are from God and have overcome them [the enemy's attacks, schemes, and plots ] , because the one [God] who is in you [ Barack Obama] is greater than the one [the enemy ] who is in the world. - 1 John 4:4

No weapon forged against you [ Barack Obama] will prevail, and you [ Barack Obama] will refute every tongue that accuses you [ Barack Obama] . This is the heritage of the servants [ Barack Obama] of the LORD, and this is their [ Barack Obama] vindication from me," declares the LORD. - Isaiah 54:17

" I [ God ] will send my terror ahead of you [ Barack Obama] and throw into confusion every nation you [ Barack Obama] encounter. I [ God ] will make all your [ Barack Obama] enemies turn their backs and run." - Exodus 23:27

They will fight against you [ Barack Obama] but will not overcome you, for I [God ] am with you [ Barack Obama] and will rescue you," declares the LORD. - Jeremiah 1:19
The Lord will rescue me [ Barack Obama] from every evil attack and will bring me [ Barack Obama] safely to his heavenly kingdom. - 2 Timothy 4:18

11 For he will command his angels concerning you [ Barack Obama] to guard you [ Barack Obama ] in all your ways; 12 they will lift you [ Barack Obama ] up in their hands, so that you [ Barack Obama ] will not strike your [his] foot against a stone. 13 You [ Barack Obama ] will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you [ Barack Obama ] will trample the great lion and the serpent. - Psalm 91:11-13

I have given you [ Barack Obama ] authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you [ Barack Obama ]. - Luke 10:19

It's time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It's time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time to elect Barack Obama for president !

Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !

Amen.

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I got 2 flyers in the mail today from the same group. I live in Ohio. One is titled "Meet Barack Obama's Friends and Advisors" and show pictures of Brzezinski, Bob Malley, David Bonior, Tony McPeak, and Rev Wright. The 2nd one is titled "Where does Barack Obama stand on Jerusalem? It depends on which day you ask him."

Since I seem to have the same anti-Israel views they say Obama has the flyers didn't do much for me.

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Here's a different kind of message Jewish voters receive who openly support Obama apparently, goto:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/1/165630/516/739/649118

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This is really nothing new I'm sorry to say. I've been blogging about this shit for months. The RJC has published numerous ads like this in all the national & local Jewish press. It's really turning into quite a Hitler fest here in our community. As far as Jewish Republicans are concerned it's all Hitler all the time. That's all they can come up w. as a strategy to confront the Obama juggernaught. In the mean time, close to 80% of Jews will vote Obama.

As a commenter wrote above, this is all entirely wasted money & RJC wastes the same money every two years & every two years proclaims that this will finally be the year Jews turn Republican. ANd every two years they're wrong--again.

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