It's about time they responded to this massive disinformation campaign by the GOP.

One thing I learned from HRC is that you have to rebut each and every claim no manner how senseless as otherwise repetition gives it the aura of truth and creditibility.

Good for Franken.

The only thing that will be better is Franken winning the seat.

God knows I am sick of Coleman and his duplicious Bush voting vs. representing the people of MN.

Senators do not take a pledge of allegiance to the President it is to the Consitution and the folks they represent.

Coleman forgot that core principle and he needs to go home.

Besides, Obama needs fresh minds and Democrats to push through policies of change...he cannot do it alone.

Looks like the "Wall Street Journal" is wasting no time in becoming the new "Faux Street Screecher".
What do we expect from a Murdoch paper? Honest reporting? lololol

And darn-it, people like him!

Great to see the simple truth out there as the right wing lie machine is getting most of the spin going it's way. The problem for the liars on this one is that Minnesota is a place where basic fairness still is respected. I have no doubt the Republicans would love to have busloads of "rioters" brought in to confuse and intimidate the vote counters like they did in Florida, but the culture of Minnesota Nice will not allow for it. They will just have to follow the rules and the count will lead where it will.

Like Obama, Fraken has run a nearly flawless campaign despite the closeness of votes between him and Elias. This re-count business is complete GOP nonsense that needs to will ultimately end in Elias looking foolish.

Evan
http://www.beyondrace.com

WSJ really said Franken is trying to "steal the election?" What is wrong with these idiots? Since when is bringing a case to court to be equated with election tampering? Do they realize that they are preemptively accusing any judge who rules in favor of the Franken campaign of colluding in a conspiracy to steal an election? Is there some point where these accusations cross a line?

Giving Franken actual power in the halls of the Senate would be such a blow against Cheney and the right wing wurlitzer in general. God I hope he prevails, though I'm sanguine about the whole thing.

Do NOT believe the talking heads on Hardball with Chris Matthews last night either. The GOP talking head, forgot his name, was speaking misinformation probably petpetuated by the Coleman campaign. The misinformation: that the districts that have reported in so far were all Blue districts and that Franken is sunk b/c only red districts remain. Complete BS. The areas that have reported in so far are purple to red. Suburbs, rural areas, etc. The urban districts of Hennepin, Ramsey, etc. have yet to be counted. That is to say: the biggest Blue areas are not yet in and Franken has a very good chance at pulling this off.

Natch.

so coleman has spent his time since the election trying to disenfranchise voters, you say ???

and Josh says this"

While the Republican party had a real image problem leading up to the November election, improbably, it's gotten dramatically worse since the election. In October, the GOP's favorable/unfavorable was 40%/53%. Now it's fav. 34% / unfav. 61%.

so coleman wants to disenfranchise voters, and the voters wanna disenfranchise the repuglitards

sounds like natural selection to me

survival of the fittest

maybe the repuglitards shoud stop and figure out that if you try to fuck with a person's right to vote, that person ain't gonna vote for you

if they ain't on the side of the voters, why would the voters be on the repuglitards' side

wait till we've seen two more years of repuglitard hissy fits

19 repuglitards on the menu in 2010, and if we get TEN of those seats, we can impeach and remove scalia, roberts, thomas and alito

josephcast may know more than I do. But I did watch some of the recount yesterday and the precincts I saw being counted were deep-blue St. Paul city ones including the Fifth Ward and the Sixth Ward. And local newspapers reported that the 46% included the returns from St. Louis, Hennepin, and Ramsey---the three biggest DFL (Democratic-Farmer-Labor) strongholds.

Therefore, the fact that Norm Coleman still leads does seem to prefigure his eventual squeaking through. IF there were a great disparity in the challenged ballots, and IF the judges were to accept challenges or reject them on their merits under the clear provisions of state law regarding voter intent, then Franken would still have some hope. BUT from the record it is clear that previous recount judges have RARELY overruled local election judges on disputed ballots.

At this point, Al's chances are dwindling. He has gained a little but not enough.

Minnesota in modern times has had an excellent standard of clean and honest elections under the guidance of former Sec's of State Erdahl (Rep) and Growe (DFL). The recent 8 years under Kiffmeyer (Rep) were not marred by cheating---but that wasn't Kiffmeyer's fault! Her overt partisanship and apparent sympathy with voter suppression schemes led to the election of incumbent Mark Ritchie (DFL). The Republican & media attacks against the recount will have the effect, even if as I anticipate Norm does win, of falsely yet permanently marring Minnesota's reputation.

Kudos to Al's lawyer for trying to answer the Murdoch lies . . . but you can't win against these rat bastards with logic, facts, or evidence. The American ultra-rightist propaganda machine truly follows the Goebbels formula.

Nice to have our democracy back. Remember the dark days of 2003? A few of us were yelling "the war is a lie!" and nobody listened. Now all the lies are quickly being rebutted and disputed not just by TPM but a dozen other outlets. Fuck Coleman. His cheap stunts are history.

Could it be? Franken says lead is now down to double digits.
http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/franken-claims-colemans-lead-is-down-to-double-digits-2008-11-21.html

Folks, this will come down to the disputed ballots. Here again Minnesota laws are in our favor. Both campaigns get to offer up a point of view and make a case, but it's the recount officials who make the final call. Their decision can't be challenged in court because the decision won't change. Only the question of a recount can be presented to the court.

Good stuff!

The WSJ can go h*ll!!!

I canceled my subscription back in June and now am much happier with the non-Fascist and more balanced/intelligent/global Financial Times (I just wish they would get rid of the salmon colored paper).

One other thing I love about the Financial Times is that they will criticize all countries when their government does something asinine and this includes Great Britain, the US, and Israel. The last two got a free ride in the WSJ (the US only gets a free ride when Rescumlican administrations are in office).

Wow. Elias just destroyed them, and on their pages too. Talk about an embarassment. No wonder they were so palpably ticked off in their red herring response. They got taken behind the woodshop in front of all to see; exposed for their decietful and shameless partisan hackery. God that felt good!

"Fortunately, he doesn't have Minnesota law on his side."

Or Brother Jeb

Bet Coleman's having nightmares about hanging chads.

SoS site seems to be down to one report a day. Report from last night showed that they had tallied 40K more votes for Coleman than for Franken. Thus the remaining precincts leaned toward Franken by about the same amount.

Sounds like the GOP is again trying to create a media presumption that they are ahead, so they can scream foul if they then end up on the short end.

So what else is new?

On the not so bright side, Strib reports from today have been moving in Coleman's favor. Projecting the latest report at 5 PM or so, Coleman leads by 142 with 52% counted, thus he would win by 75. But this is highly non-linear, obviously much more to go.