Florida, Where Are You? Hello?
Uh oh. Not a whole lot of crowd enthusiasm at John McCain's first event today in Florida, as per the St. Petersburg Times's political blog:
About 30 minutes before John McCain is scheduled to lead a rally outside Raymond James Stadium, looks like maybe 1,000 people here. What's up with that? On the day before the election? Bush drew at least 15,000 people to a rally just across the street on the Sunday before the 04 election."We are the quiet majority that goes out and gets things done..I smell victory,'' said state Rep. Kevin Ambler. Good thing he smells it, because it's hard to see it with this crowd.
Meanwhile, at least as many have already turned up at Obama's Florida event, even though it's not scheduled to begin for at least two hours.
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November 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
What? There weren't a few thousand school kids that could be bussed in to fill out the crowd? The fail tour rolls on.
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November 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Voting with their feet!
November 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Their car broke down. Any minute now, 14,000 people will show up in an AAA truck.
November 3, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
They cart them around to every rally to pad out the crowd.
There are only about 1000 people that ACTUALLY turn up.
Incidentally, those people they cart around also make up their entire internal polling sample and they still show Obama winning.
November 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
"They cart them around to every rally to pad out the crowd."
...uh that would be the Union guys at the Obama rallies...
November 3, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, that would be a hilarious example of desperation a day before the election.
November 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, unfortunately for America, it does appear that most states from the former Confederacy still can't get with the program...
November 3, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey! Don't count us out yet! Virginia really looks like it's going to go for Obama, and we're not the only former member of the CSA for which this holds true!
November 3, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. I guess that was snark that didn't work. I live in one of those states (Tx). So, like Obama says, "no red or blue states-just the United States". Word!
November 3, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nah, I got your snark. I was just doubling down.
November 3, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Chuck, too bad you don't live in a pro-America state, like New York City...oh, wait...
November 3, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why didn't you just go with "McCain's rubber and Obama's glue..."?
I know you are working with shitty material, but come on. Don't give us this half-ass effort.
November 3, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't mind SFC Wallace's bad mood this morning....his beloved "Dawgs" got their asses handed to them this weekend.
November 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
My "beloved" dogs are the Salukis (being a proud graduate of SIU) we won. The local dogs did get spanked though.
November 3, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Alright, you get some points for not being a UG grad.
November 3, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
I went to SUI, too!!! Back in the late 80's, early 90's. When were you there?
November 3, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
SIU, oops!
November 3, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
My last 5 years in the Army (2000-2005) I was assigned to the ROTC program there as an instructor. So I finished up my degree as well. It's beautiful area and campus certainly not what I expected when I recieved my transfer orders.
November 3, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
SFCWallace,
you and your ideology are being relegated to the dust bin of History.
Happy trails.
November 3, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
MCCAIN HAS GOT OBAMA RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS HIM!!
November 3, 2008 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm just as glad they are pulling out Rev. Wright. I don't think it will affect the outcome, and now the righties won't be able to complain that McPalin would have won if only thay had played the Wright card.
November 3, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
LMAO!!!!!
November 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL at your closing graf, Greg!
Hmmm... anyone in the mood for a PARTY tomorrow night??!!
November 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's already a line in front of Grant Park for tomorrow night - personally, I don't think we'll have a winner until the wee hours of Wednesday, but there's a line out there. It's a ticketed event and those are long gone.
I'm assuming those people in line already voted...I hope???
November 3, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I got a ticket!
People are really already out there?!
November 3, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's first come, first serve...earlier you're there, the closer to the stage you are. That's what the local news is saying.
November 3, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
My Great Aunt (now 93) living in Gainesville, FL received about three calls this weekend from a robo-voice telling her all voting for Democrats was scheduled for November 5th. Her in-house nurse had to tell her this was bullshit.
How fucking desperate is the Republican Party??? This isn't just cheating, this is PREYING on voters!!
November 3, 2008 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's *awful*. I hope someone reported this.
November 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Interesting that they know the phone numbers of registered Democrats, eh?
November 3, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Report that to the Obama campaign (their "voting problem" page). I assume they are aware of that tactic already (their voting right video mentions about that "11/5" misinformation), but just in case. The knowledge of the specific places they are disseminating the BS should help.
November 3, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I already wrote Obama's campaign about this - I'm sure they're getting besieged with these from numerous states, not just FL.
I think they get phone numbers and mailing addresses based on how one votes in the primaries (when you choose a DEM or GOP ballot). I could be wrong, but that's how I think they get voter information.
She's 93, a Chicago transplant to Florida and a lifelong Democrat. Very opinionated, very crass and I love her for it! She's also an ardent activist for equal rights for race and gender, and has been since World War II.
She's one of the main reasons I'm a Democrat, as is my Mom and siblings. To know someone is trying to use her and cheat her out of her vote like this just inspires me to get out the vote even more and see the GOP crumble before our very eyes!
November 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for doing that, and god bless your great aunt! I'm sorta jealous, lol. My grandparents and parents were all apolitical people and were cluelessly concerned about their (gran)kids' genuine interest in politics as if we were becoming extremists... :|
November 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sue the pants off those bastards!
November 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Probably, the school kids finally put their feet down and said "no fucking way, man".
November 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Back to the “silent majority” meme?
November 3, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey! McSlime likes being the underdog. He said so. I guess he must be in fucking hog-heaven, now.
November 3, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
That 'smell' Ambler is sniffing is probably a ripe combination of Hoppe's Gun Oil and Preparation H, judging from the look of the crowd.
November 3, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! Ha, ha, ha!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's a McCain rally you can believe in!
November 3, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
damn. note to self: scan other threads before going off-topic in one. this is the right thread for this.
i just watched mccain's speech in florida, and right after calling obama "redistributionist in chief," he said about offshore oil revenue (i think that is the revenue he was talking about, but my son was kind of babbling at the time):
"... and we'll take some of that revenue and share it with the people of florida."
someone please explain how that squares with saying that OBAMA is the socialist/communist???
November 3, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Because Obama's plan takes money from one group of people to cut a check to another group. McCain's revenue plan requires the company drilling to pay a portion to the state whose resources are being drilled for.
November 3, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, well the oil companies are raking in record profits out of the wallets of the middle-class. so obama's plan is forcing those companies who are drilling people to pay a portion of the money to the people who are being drilled.
if you want, i can extend the analogy to walmart, wall street executives, you name it.
November 3, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think what he's saying is that it's OK to be a Floridian communist, but not to be an American communist. I suppose that has to come after secession ... that's the Palin way in Alaska isn't it?
November 3, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not even close.
November 3, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
ok, SFC, now you can go watch "McCain Closing #6" on the front page of TPM. please explain to me how mccain was making the argument YOU say he was making.
he didn't say "we're going to take the revenue from drilling off florida's coast, and share it with florida." i've been pretty plugged in through this election, and i've never heard him make the argument you attribute to him.
he's a communist, plain and simple.
November 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
And explain how our current tax system doesn't do that?
November 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
The current tax system takes mone from people and uses it to finance the government. I do agree some of the current tax credits should get axed too but many benefit the society as a whole liek the education ones, you don't get those unless you are going to school and the credit is capped by qualified spending on education. Obama's idea is just take money from one group and cut a check for another. There's a difference.
November 3, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
When class at SIU were you? I'm '92!
November 3, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
2002, got to see some quality Basketball and football (quality football was a little slim for awhile).
November 3, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Damn, I feel old! :-)
So, how is ol' Schneider Hall these days? And is Mr. Munchy still the cuisine of choice in the Tower Quads at Midnight??
November 3, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't let the 2002 fool you, I started way late. Mr. munch was still around and the Bagelman on the strip...and LaBumba's barritos are still as big as your head!
November 3, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was at SIU when Jenny McCarthy was there - I never knew her, but she was there the same time I was. BEFORE the Playboy days.
I haven't been back to Carbondale in 15 years and, from what I hear, a lot of the bars I remember on The Strip (Illinois St.) have changed ownership and names.
What was that bar that had all of the pool tables everywhere?? I mean, the place was wall-to-wall pool tables and always packed!
Man, the memories!
November 3, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Mugsy McGuire's had a bunch. So did Styx. The names change but that's about it. Our office was on Greek row...that was all getting torn down when I left. They were gonna put in 2 new towers out there. They added a new Student Health center to the Rec Center and are getting ready to add on to the Arena and the Stadium. I get up there a couple times a year. There's a bunch of new construction on 13, pretty soon there won't be any seperation between C'dale and Marion.
November 3, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, there's not a difference. What do you think the current EIC is? You know, the one implemented by that commie-pinko Reagan? What do you think McCain's "refundable health care tax credit" is?
Unless you believe that McCain is a flat-taxer (which he is not), I just don't see how you have any standing in this argument. If you plan to vote for him, then you are in-fact voting for his support of the progressive tax system....in addition, you are also casting a vote for Sarah "the socialist from Alaska" Palin. And please don't use the argument "Well, Obama is just worse"...that's an intellectually dishonest argument. It's been 28 years since Reagan's "trickle-down" economics....can you at least explain to the rest of us when the trickling is supposed to start?
November 3, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, and maybe its about fucking time that corporations are not treated like citizens, as well...
November 3, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Forget underdog, after this election the republican party will be underground!
November 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or just a dog. Wait. I just insulted all dogs. Chief and Lucky are giving me a baleful stare. (Australian Shepherd and Springer Spaniel). I better take them for a walk or my slippers are history...
November 3, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Under water and waiting for the undertaker.
November 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's move that map from the right column to the left; that's how things are going on Tuesday. We are less than 24 hours to launch. The big wave is reaching its crest and is about to hit the East Coast.
All those brown states, including FL, are going blue. A few red states gonna flip to blue (Hello TX! A big shout out to WVa! Go sOdak!)
Georgia and Montana are pink today, blue tomorrow.
My method: any state with less than a 10-pt McCloggedToilet lead is going for the Big O.
My final prediction:
39 States
468 EVs
LBJ Slide!
Massive Coat Tails. 61 Senators. 260 House Members.
We're standing in line all day if that's what it takes. No denying the Big Wave. It's worth a 10-point swing on election day.
Go play with this map and have a blast. The country sure looks good in blue.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
mOtOcrat
November 3, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Calm down. You're going to be in for some disappointment if you have your expectations set that monumentally high.
Obama will not clear 400 EVs. He's not going to win Texas - that's a project that will take a little more time. Sorry. He'll do quite well overall though.
November 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's a problem with your method: you're assuming that no voting machines will be tampered with. Now, I don't think they're going to be able to overcome Obama's massive lead, but I wouldn't be surprised by a few states (especially Ohio) that have an amazing reversal of fortune for McCain.
November 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Smells like a turd-polishing to me. But if alls you got is turds, might as well make 'em shiny
November 3, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's an excerpt from Garrison Keillor talkin' with the Okies...
What I've been calling a Reverse Bradley Effect is not literally that; it's not reverse race-based. It's what GK dubs the Palin Effect. It's why so many of those attendees at McSlime's rallys come disguised as empty seats.
November 3, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
The choir invisible is filling those seats!
November 3, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! Ha, ha, ha!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's a McCain rally you can believe in!
November 3, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Michigoose,
You are leaving out the very real possibility that 15,000 Floridians are washing their hair right now and couldn't make the rally.
November 3, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, they stayed home to watch paint dry.
With a little bit of luck, they'll do it again tomorrow.
November 3, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's not victory you smell, buddy. That's McGrandpa's Depends.
November 3, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe the GOPers hope McBush loses so they can vote Palin in 2012 and not wait until 2016?
November 3, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
No Sir. We who have volunteered and donated and voted early to put Barack Obama in the White House are the quiet majority. We are getting things done, like throwing Republicans out of power for the next 2 or 3 decades.
November 3, 2008 1:54 PM | Reply | Permalink