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Election Central Morning Roundup

WSJ: Obama Could Keep Gates On At Defense
The Wall St. Journal reports that Barack Obama is leaning toward keeping Robert Gates as Secretary of Defense for at least the first year of his term -- which if true would represent a very prominent act of continuity from the Bush Administration.

Obama To Recognize Veterans Today
Barack Obama will be publicly observing Veterans Day this morning, laying a wreath in Chicago in honor of fallen veterans. He will be accompanied by Tammy Duckworth, the Illinois director of veterans affairs and herself a disabled Iraq War veteran.

Podesta To Address Reporters Today On Transition
John Podesta, the former Bill Clinton White House chief of staff and current co-chairman of Barack Obama's presidential transition, will be speaking to reporters today in order to provide some updates on the transition process. Some of the big questions he'll probably address will be regarding when the president-elect will start naming cabinet appointments, whether any Bush appointees will stay on, and to what degree Obama is demanding action from President Bush during the interregnum period.

Obama To Refocus On Afghanistan -- And Bin Laden
The incoming Obama Administration is looking to refocus U.S. foreign policy on the conflict in Afghanistan and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden. One possible element of this strategy, the Washington Post reports, could cause some serious domestic and international friction: Negotiations with Iran and potentially reconcilable elements of the Taliban.

Palin On 2012 Run: It's In God's Hands
In an interview with Fox News, Sarah Palin left the door open for a potential 2012 run for president: "I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door ... And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door."

Report: Jarrett Going To White House, Not Senate
CNN reports that Obama sources say Valerie Jarrett will stay on as an adviser in the White House -- not as an appointee to Obama's vacant Senate seat, as had been rumored over the weekend. At the end of the day the Senate appointment will be up to Dem Gov. Rod Blagojevich -- regardless of whether Obama asked him to appoint a particular individual.

Most Uncounted Alaska Ballots Expected To Be Counted Tomorrow
The Anchorage Daily News reports that the majority of the 81,000 uncounted ballots should be processed tomorrow. The campaign of Dem Senate candidate Mark Begich is hopeful that those ballots will turn around their current narrow deficit against incumbent GOP Sen. Ted Stevens -- and if not, Begich will have the distinction of losing an election to a recently-convicted felon.

NYT: The Southern Era Of Politics May Be Over
The New York Times this morning points out that, besides Republican rule in Washington, another important political trend might have ended last week: "And the Southernization of American politics -- which reached its apogee in the 1990s when many Congressional leaders and President Bill Clinton were from the South -- appears to have ended."


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THIS

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DOES NOT MERIT A THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS CASCADE

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Finally! Thank you for that.

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spoilersport

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To be honest -- I am glad that was posted -- This has turned into silly shit that is a waste of electrons.Why should every reader have to scroll past single word posts to get to the real posts so you and others can post something without saying anything?
--Savage

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Interesting -- then I read the rest of this thread -- and that was the only thing you posted.
-- Savage

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IS

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Could it be? A post-election post on TPM which is not about Joe freaking Lieberman?

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Yes it would seem so. But the day is still young.

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Palin suggests if she runs for the Presidency in 2012 she would be following a sign from god:

http://www.inetfreedom.info/pictures/result.php?image=ad_42145n.jpg

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Open door = a sign from God? Alaskans, watch those doors and those hands in the till!

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Palin does seem to be suggesting that she prays to god to show her the Open Door. Not necessarily for god to create that door, just to show it to her. "I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door ..." Don't let me miss the door, don't let me miss the sign. It seems a reasonable interpretation that the Open Door represents a sign from god, to her. Of course, it's all bullshit and to some degree or another even Palin knows it.

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Yeah, it's "Don't let me miss the open door," not "Is this something I should be doing in the first place?"

Palin might want to put it this way: "God, I said 'putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4.' So, that means you didn't want me to be the vice president, right? And, you wanted Barack Obama to be president, right? And, if he runs again in 2012, you'll probably want him to win again, right? Well, if you change your mind, just let me know, okay? I'll just wait to hear from you."

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O my god - it's not about Lieberman!

LOL!

Morning peeps.

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Don't count your bagels, it's early yet.

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Good morning, fellow Hussein! :)

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"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door ... And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door."

"'Cause, ya know, I'm like a lipstick on a pig, I mean a pit bull, and a barracuda also, and I'm not gonna let those mean jerks pull me offstage, you betcha. I'm gonna shatter that glass door, dontcha know, and then we're gonna have a Christian in the White House again instead a that black muslim not to mention that Indian Catholic Exorcist, and it's gonna be like 'Praise Jeebus' once and for all."

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All I can say is that if Democrats want to court the independents, there is nothing better than having Palin doing her articulation thang in the national media.

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And if they want to attract moderates of all stripes who are put off by evangelical extremism, let's hope she keeps talking about God wanting her to be president.

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let's hope she keeps talking about God wanting her to be president.

If she's right, that would be proof that God has a sick sense of humor.

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I've always suspected that He does...but He isn't nuts.

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I'm still waiting for some enterprising reporter to ask her if she believes it was God's will for Obama to be elected. She was very clear with Dobson that she believed the outcome was in God's hands. I want someone to ask her so we can watch her squirm.

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That small twinge of contentment in how last week's vote turned out is brought to you today by the letter V and the number 11.

Thanks to all the veterans here and elsewhere that make voting possible at all :-)

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NYT: The Southern Era Of Politics May Be Over

And yet, even after the GOP tactics got resoundingly rejected in the elections, an idiot from Georgia still keeps harping on the Marxist line.

Some guys seriously cannot be helped. God.

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If they can't be helped, let them go down further and fade away. Time doesn't forgive.

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NYT: The Southern Era Of Politics May Be Over

This really merits a Praise Jeebus!

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In terms of the article that said that Obama may keep Bush's policies. Obama just won a week ago and has NOT formulated his foreign relation team so who knows what he will do.

It appears to me that it's just WSJ wishful thinking.

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I agree. I think a lot of media organizations are flailing around for information and just throwing crap out to see what sticks.

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In terms of Gates staying in on defense for a year. I could see that happening. Right now it is extremely important for Obama to deal with the economic crisis and keeping continuity at defense with Gates makes sense.

Both Reid and Pelosi approve of keeping Gates on as well.

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I think Gates is kind of fellow that if he agreed to stay on, would only do so if he was willing to act in accordance within the parameters set down by the CIC.

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Gates came in to mitigate the Rumsfeld catastrophe; that work is ongoing.

Gates doesn't strike me as a neocon zealot or even a rabidly partisan Republican but as a capable guy who knows all the players and the realm of possibilities in the ME.

If he is willing/able to salute and execute the Obama mission, he could be the right guy for the job.

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I was hoping to see the end of Palin but now I'm hoping she runs. She's perfect. She's too much fun. She's sorting clothes to "see what belongs to the RNC"? She doesn't know? Sure.

I believe that.

I'm off the airport this AM peeps - snow's mostly gone and the highways that were closed are open. But I won't see y'all much I don't think until I'm back in Texas next week. I'm going to be busy shutting this place down.

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The Republican Governors are meeting this week and the media will all over it because of Palin. And she is in a catch-22: the persona she developed that makes her so popular with the masses of the far right (conservative populist hockey mom) is the same thing that feeds the negative image formed in the minds of the independents and progressives. What's a barracuda to do?

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What's a barracuda to do? O that's too funny.

She appeals to such a narrow group of people that she doesn't scare me anymore - she's just great entertainment. Silly woman - even if she gets into the senate she's doomed no matter what - cause she's dumb.

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If Alaska wants her to be their representative, then all the power to them. The country can still move forward in spite of her. But she will never be a serious contender on the national stage. All she will do is be a source of division within the GOP and of laughter from the rest of us.

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She appeals to such a narrow group of people

Late night comics.

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There's a difference between "dumb" and "narrow minded and undereducated." Watching her last night she looks as if she wouldn't be as contorted in her speech if she were shouting out her own agenda. Ugh!

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I thought Obama would save us from great depression, turns out it's Palin.

From Botox Bummer Greta Van Sestran to Matt Lauer to Holgram Freak, the Palin show will be running in the city all week.

Good Morning fellow prinsoners, release date is 69 days away.

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Is the freakshow that is Sarah Palin going to be a major focus of our national discourse for the next 2 years? I get that she's funny, in the same sort of way that idjiot congressperson from GA with his Godwin's Law violation is funny, but enough is enough.

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O I don't think so - this will end in a matter of weeks.

I thought it would be over now - I misunderestimated the idiotic press - of course they're interested - they aren't much smarter.

But she's not going to be around that long - there isn't that much going on there to hold anyone's interest for very long.

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If she has anything to say about it, yes. This woman craves the spotlight.

You think she's willingly going to go back to working on the fucking Alaskan budget in her Goodwill pantsuit after 2 months on the national stage??

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D'accord.

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If there was a definitive leader for the GOP other than her, she would probably fade away. But there is a power vacuum in the GOP, and you've got a potential leader (who will never reach beyond the base) who is already iconic (thanks to Tina Fey) who is making moose chili for reporters. I don't think she will fade away until she wants to fade away. Which she doesn't.

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Does anybody else get the feeling that, starting with the remark by Palin about a "small and bitter person," McCain was threatened by Palin and that's why his aides are busy walking back those leaks? I think she or first dude let McCain know that she will turn the table and start leaking things about him. Something sure changed fast...no more leaks and everybody from McCain's camp is talking about how great she is again.

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As much as I don't like her and as much as I believe the shit that was leaked, it was making McLame look really bad so that might have been the catalyst to get them to shut up about her - who knows?

I'm sure she could tell us some things about McLame and Cindy.

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After it's not what you know or who you know it's what you know about them...

PS Drive safe!

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*ahem* insert "all" after "After"

When are we going to get a "preview"... Oh... Nevermind...

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You're so sweet - what would I do without y'all? You shared every step and every tear with me -

I will - it's ok down here. It's still bad up on the border with Colorado but it got to 41 here yesterday and most of the snow is gone.

It's just Embudo Station where the sun never hits where I'll watch it really closely - there's apt to ice there and other places in the canyon but I'll be fine.

Thank you. I haven't seen my husband since August - needless to say I'm really excited!

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Whether the hardcore conservative believe McCain is one of them or not, most Americans associate McCain with the Republican party and the conservative movement. Any attack on him is an attack on the GOP and conservatives that were oh so wise enough to make him their nominee. Palin would lose points with many of the hardliners who follow the dictates of Reagan to never speak ill of another Repub.

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It's the damn media, acamus. They started feeling guilty about all the leaks about her - they were pretty vicious, which I think she probably earned. But hell I knew when Chris Matthews started feeling creepy about the leaks that they had decided to be nicer to her.


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That's true. She has become sympathetic to some degree and the media is being soft on her right now. But even with the velvet gloves she still comes across as not the sharpest tool the shed.

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Keith's comment was beautiful and heartfelt and I wish the people it was directed at would hear it -

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that was supposed to be a reply to you, Closet Luddite.

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Did anyone see KO's Special Comment on Prop 8 last night? I thought it was a pretty good non-denominational denouncement of disingenuous fear mongering by the religeroti...

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Palin will also suffer mightily from the fact that Alaska is something like a 37 hour time difference, so she can't respond to anything said about her until more than 3 three days later.

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Especially if she doesn't pay attention to the news.

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Should Begich lose, at least he wouldn't have the distinction of losing to a dead man (e.g., Ashcroft in MO)

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I just want Palin to go away. She's on the Today Show today and Larry King tomorrow. Everybody is already talking about the 2012. After 21 months of campaigns, I really don't care about 2012 this week. We have a new president and the country is in an economic crisis with thousands of layoffs every week, and the MSM wants to obsess on stupid Palin. WTF?

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I think acamus called it upthread - the GOP is leaderless and the media is looking everywhere for someone to talk to about it and there's Sarah.

If they want to hand the party to her - fine. Destroy what's left of it.

I don't care. I don't care what the minority does. Our playas run this bitch -

And our president is one hell of a guy. The body language yesterday fairly screamed: I'm in charge now. He put his hand on Bush's back twice and steered the sitting president into the White House. Barack is in charge.

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Hell, we only have a *President-Elect*, and we've only had him for one goddamn week, and the media are jabbering on about 2012. Talk about crack addicts having to go cold turkey.

Don't they actually have anything to do up there in Alaska?

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NYT: The Southern Era Of Politics May Be Over

Having read this article, I can't escape the feeling of dread in the pit of my stomach that there's a cache of very angry racists who are clinging desperately to outmoded Antebellum ideals. The supposition that these are also the same folks who were hoarding guns in the runup to the election (and continue to do so) only heightens that sense of dread.

Marginalized fearful people lacking education and packing heat make me wonder if the GOP's struggle for coherence (both intellectual and political) might set off a powder keg or two before someone starts paying these folks some serious attention.

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Would it be possible to 5150 an entire region??

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Went to ADN news to read about the tallying of the votes. It seems to be a cleanly run operation --May the best man win lol.
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It seems that the only 2 people left after this election are Obama and Palin: the "celebrities" of the election.

Where is McCain?

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On his way to Georgia to campaign for that paragon of virtue, Chambliss.

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OT: Is it only me who is beginning to get a little annoyed by Rachel Maddow?

Last night she said Obama will be seen as a wuss if he lets Liebermann slip by. This following her dreadful and shallow "talk me down" B.S. days leading upto the election night and her utter lack of insight or gravity on the election night itself.

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Is it only me who is beginning to get a little annoyed by Rachel Maddow?

Well if it ain't only you, then it's surely not me. I find Rachel exceedingly delightful. Sure, I don't agree with everything she says, but I like that she's willing to take a contrarian position occasionally to probe the left's/Dem's arguments for weaknesses. That's a pretty healthy approach.

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I commented elsewhere last night that she had annoyed me for a different reason: by dwelling on the hints that Obama will move to close Gitmo and calling it a pure political power play (or words to that effect) because the discussion was happening on the same day he visited Dubya at the White House. Okay, and your point is--?

And she's still doing the annoying "talk me down" segment. I hate to say it, but I think I'm just not as smitten with Rachel as I once was.

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Personally I like those segments. She's doing what we all need to do when formulating an opinion. We start with a premise and then try to get opposing points of view so we can temper (or to overuse the overused, nuance) our conclusion. It's the thesis, antithesis, synthesis thingy we all learned about in third grade philosophy right?

What, you didn't take philosophy in third grade? Elitist!

:-)

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Nope, not until fifth grade.

I'm fine with the premise of the segment--it's just the execution that sometimes falls short. She really did start to seem like a concern troll during the run-up to the election, for instance. It might work better as an occasional segment rather than a nightly one, I don't know.

I still love Rachel. Just not quite as much.

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Her CONSTANT endless, show to show concern trolling started to irk my nerves. I had to keep reminding myself that it was probably aimed at keeping us from thinking this was in the bag but it does get tiresome.

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I'm not annoyed with Rachel. I agree with her.

People voted solidly for change, not the status quo.

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The news used to be filled with depressing stories about crime, inflation, unemployment and tragic events happening around the world.

I never imagined I would think of that as the good old days.

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Gates staying on would be my first choice IF he's on-board with Obama's withdrawal plans. Obama simply cannot go back on this election promise, but if Gates is going to be around for a year, I can't see him being the point man on the draw down as he'd be leaving right in the middle of it.

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Here we go...

Here comes Iran:

Iran test-fires new missile near Iraq: state media www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSTRE4AA4N220081111

And Russia:

Cuban president to visit Russia, alliance grows

www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSTRE4AA4LW20081111

and the appeaser:

President-elect Barack Obama plans to try a more regional approach to the war in Afghanistan including possible talks with Iran

www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4AA19Z20081111


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Yeah, why hasn't Obama started wars against Iran, Cuba, and Russia yet?

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Don't forget Reuters.

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Here is an interesting article linked to the other day by Andrew Sullivan on the power dynamics of the middle east:

http://www.diplomaticourier.org/kmitan/articleback.php?newsid=228

Long story short, if you can get past the demagoguery, Iran appears to be more aligned with our regional interests than Saudi Arabia, at least regarding the Taliban and Al Queda (perhaps not so much regarding the other regional interest - oil). But this may be an opening that Obama is looking to exploit.

Ironically, it was Iran that trained and financed the Northern Alliance (remember them?) The defeat of the Taliban is one place, at least, that Iranian and American interests (and Pakistani and Indian interests) are closely aligned.

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Rachel M laughs too much

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WSJ:  Obama Could Keep Gates On At Defense

Guess that means the Dubya will be firing Gates any day now.

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And just listened to Andy Harris conceding on the local news. Its a good day in Delmar.
Savage

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I admit I am attracted the the Sara Palin stories, especially now that she is no longer "a heartbeat away from the presidency." As Barack said, she has a compelling story. I don't expect her to ever make it into the White House, unless someone chooses her again for the VP slot nomination, which ain't likely.

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She has a likeable and compelling story. However, she is a disgrace to anyone running for the presidency, tha's where her appeal stops.

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The disgrace is really to the guy running for the presidency. He picked her in a fit of whatever. She was out of her league, and fed a script she didn't know enough about to extemporize.

Unfortunately, her drive will probably promote her towards a position in the "lower 48." She could be a real troublemaker as senator.

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From Driftglass:… "...My Party spent 30 years lying, cheating, and clawing our way to power and calling anyone who stood in our way a traitor.

To seize power we methodically annihilated the very idea of political comity in America, and when we were at the peak of Gingrich-fever, we (were) laughing at anyone who suggested that compromise was a virtue.

And once we achieved our goal of running every branch of government, we proceeded to destroy everything we touched. We mocked the dead and dying of New Orleans. Broke whole countries. Bankrupted the nation enriching a handful of plutocrats. Pissed away an international reputation it took fifty years of skill and patience to construct.

And now that we are falling into the abyss we created – now that all the consequence the hated Dirty Fucking Hippies warned us about are coming to pass – we’d like to, uh, move past partisanship and, uh, all get along.
OK?..."

Right now we need a strong united government to get progressive policies passed. I don't understand how, after such an overwhelming mandate from the voters, the democrats still think they have to cater to republicans who did nothing but spread fear in order to get legislation passed that prospered their cronies.

Haven't they had enough of republican obstructionism and the corporate lobbyists forcing policies and spending that are not in the people's interest. While we are busy "giving" money to AIG and others to spend on bonuses and perks while grabbing as much of the bail out money as they can get, congress will turn around and say we don't have enough money for Medicare or Medicaid or even social security. The short version...take away helping elderly people with their winter heating bills and use the money to party or make one wealthy CEO richer. Took your retirement money to buy a new yacht.
The repukes, these Publicans were busy making as big a mess as possible for Obama to clean up so they could stand around criticizing him and block his efforts every step of the way. They have no intention of helping anyone but the rich. They had no policies this election so they just attacked attacked attacked.

The democratic party has enough division without adding Publicans to their opposition. Publicans don't believe in partisanship as proven by their obstructing all legislation in the senate for purely political reasons. We need to get things
done and accomplish so much just to restore our democracy and our economy without Publican interference...and that is what bipartisanship means to them...interference.

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btw...Palin is really selling her personality not her politics. She's trying to get everybody to like her...gosh darn it...oh goodie...and even uses big words so you will know she's not dumb. She doesn't want top miss an open door even if it is an elevator door with no elevator. She's an attention deficient ego maniac who thinks she is too smart for anyone to see how phony she is.
A giggle, a wink and a smile has always worked for her but to intelligent folks, that wink during the debates showed she is an ambitious, manipulating, manizer. I wish the media would just stop playing her "look at me" game. If she were a man they would have stopped already...just look at Romney.

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You could not have said it better. Why is Palin getting any attention? She lost! I can't think of a single VP candidate who lost badly who was still in the news after the election. The MSM media is back to fawning over her just by giving her undeserved attention...which is what she craves more than anything. Disgusting. She has had more attention than the winning VP, Joe Biden.

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