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Did Palin Suggest We're At War With Iran?
Uh oh. More trouble for Sarah Palin on the foreign policy front. In an interview with Fox's Greta Van Susteren yesterday, Palin professed confidence in victory on Tuesday as follows:
We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we're confident that we're going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?
Now, it's not fully clear that Palin was saying outright that we need to redouble our efforts to win an ongoing war in Iran. That's what her words mean. But it could have been a slip of the tongue.
Still, given the startling lack of foreign policy knowledge Palin has demonstrated, the possibility that she meant precisely what she said certainly can't be dismissed.
Late Update: Here's video:
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Just a little slip giving away the Neo-con plan for war with Iran?
November 1, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know that's bullshit. Of course it can be dismissed.
How much more of Airhead Bimbo do you need to have watched to know that?
November 1, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Careful jzap, no fair holding her to a higher standard than a bit of errant slime mold. You don't want to infringe on her right to free speech do you? LOL
November 1, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I wholeheartedly support her Constitutional right to make a fool of herself.
She's a gibberish machine. Take a handful of talking half-points (subjects, predicates, direct objects, etc.), throw 'em in a bag, shake 'em up, and dinner is served!
Wanna parse? Let's go!
shore up the strategies
WTF does that mean?
strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran
What about strategies we need in Washington to deal with Iraq and Iran? Or did she mean tactics?
to win these wars?
There's no antecedant for these.
It's fun to mock her foot-in-mouth drivel. Her stream of semi-jumbled talking-point fragments can be mined for gems galore!
November 1, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe you can conduct electricity with slime mold, Sarah Palin's brain cells - not likely.
November 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but did slime-mold say "no" to the Bridge to Nowhere? Oh, wait a sec...neither did Gov. Nanookie,(TM@bvd)...
November 1, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huh?
A reasonable interpretation of this:
is that Governor Palin is referring to strategies for winning the war in Iraq and winning the war in Iran. She makes no mention of Afghanistan at this point, so choice of the word "wars" suggests two wars: one with Iraq and one with Iran.
God help us all if she winds up in the Veep office.
November 1, 2008 2:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just meant that we can't be certain whether it was slip of tongue or an expression of her actual beliefs...
November 1, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Slip of the brain!
November 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I figured as much, but for me, it just doesn't matter. If she actually understood what was going on with respect to world affairs, she would have immediately realized her mistake and said as much. She didn't. So either she thinks we're at war with Iran, or knows so little that she's not aware when she's made a big glaring mistake.
Ready on day one, my ass.
November 1, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure you know she doesn't.
You're giving her too much credit. Even if she did know world affairs, her English isn't good enough for her to realize what she came close to saying.
That's not the GOP way. . . . Unless you're Larry Eagleburger.
November 1, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe she has been briefed on what we are actually doing in Iran (IMO Cheney has been sending in black ops for years in hope of escalating things, and what were the captured Brits doing there anyway?) and just let the cat out of the bag?
November 1, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And does she make it difficult to untangle the two.
It's hard to know -
November 1, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
She doesn't have any real belief of her own about foreign policy -- she just doesn't understand things a bit. Iran and Iraq are just two of those things her handlers keep whispering to her ears so often those two countries are the first to pop up in her mind when asked about foreign policy. Sorta like Pavlov's dog.
November 1, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Besides, "Iran" and "Iraq" are probably much easier for her to pronounce than "nuclear."
November 1, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Real Americans say "nucular." You Commie. Er, Nazi. Er, Socialist.
November 1, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish they would invade our County so that they can build us a new School or two!
November 1, 2008 2:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has another figured out yet who is pulling her strings. I often wonder if the old guy is in charge.
November 1, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's not.
She belongs to the extreme right wing group who signed her up as a candidate and then pushed her.
Damn I wish I'd kept that link -
November 1, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Could it be this - Secretive Right-Wing Group Vetted Palin, from The Nation?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=352178
November 1, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's the Council for National Policy. There is some info and a list of members including Palin.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_for_National_Policy.
November 1, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wasn't that the article saying that the Weekly Standard and some other group sponsor junkets and about two years ago, sponsored a cruise up to Alaska where they met, and were impressed with Sarah Palin, and subsequently put her on their list of someone to push politically?
November 1, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Which old guy? McCain?
Since he thinks Iraq borders Pakistan, that would account for Palin's sophistication in world affairs.
November 1, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, that one.
November 1, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't get your original point: when you say you're wondering who's in charge, you're implicitly saying that you're pretty sure it isn't McCain, right?
Just call me "A little slow on the uptake CT Voter"....
November 1, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think McCain is in charge. His campaign is incoherent and the lunatics are fighting over the asylum.
November 1, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would be happy if she could complete a semtence, OK, without rambling off on a tangent about something, also did you know I lost a cat last Halloween, and um my Obama pumpkin has delevoped a fungus so does that mean he is really a corrupt muslim after all you betcha.
November 1, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
DOH !! developed.
But I was channeling Sarah.
It took a few minutes for normal brain function to restart.
November 1, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
You forgot to add an extraneous "there."
November 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
And "also".
November 1, 2008 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Palin is like most of the Bush Base, she probably can't find Iraq, Iran, Israel, Pakistan, Afghanistan or most other countries over there on a unlabeled map.
Perhaps she was unsure who we are actually 'at war' with and just threw in both 'I-' countries to look like more of a patriotic Real American.
November 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I imagine her hand-waving in her head, "Oh, ya know those wars over there, near Iraq and Iran there, those wars, ya know, that need some shored-up strategies there..."
November 1, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not her fault! The map in her Bible doesn't go that far! And it uses old Jewish names ... and stuff.
November 1, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
And according to Palin She and McCain have been violating Senator Obama's first amendment rights for criticizing him for expressing his views.
I keep hearing pundits claim that all of the undecided voters are really racists that won't admit it and will vote for McCain...
I think some of these people who won't vote for McCain because of Palin but perhaps don't feel comfortable admitting to anyone that they might vote for Senator Obama.
November 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/sarah-palin-talks-about-first-100-days-
VIDEO
November 1, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
i'm tempted to give her some credit for thinking ahead. if they win, she's going to have to come up with a plan for winning the Iran War. i can hardly wait.
November 1, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did she discuss Iran with Dobson like Bush did? http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000618.htm
November 1, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Probably, cause Dobson is one of her backers.
November 1, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will be so glad when this election is over.
November 1, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me, too, but I'm enjoying the ride.
Beats the shit outta 2000 and 2004.
November 1, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
O word straight to your mother!
November 1, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
This woman has such a tangled relationship with the English Language, "and also too", who the hell knows what she was talking about. I'm sure if you asked her straight up with what countries we are presently engaged in war, I'm fairly certain she waould correctly point to Iraq and Afghanistan. But, this doesn't mean that in the heat of the moment, her paper thin understanding of foreign policy leads to stupid sounding gaffes. Also, too, (pun intended), this slip shows quite clearly what her default position on Iran would be should she and McCain end up in the White House.
November 1, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's as though she never unlearned the high-school essayist's habit of meeting word count requirements with needless extra words that aren't really quite necessary to include, incorporate or add, as it were, if you will.
November 1, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Example: From the department of redundancy department. Also too.
November 1, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not that far from the truth....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
November 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reminds me more of the beauty pagent thing of just keeep talking when asked a question. They can find an answer in there somewhere. It is also a trick of very young children when they think they may be in trouble. But I agree with you, I don't think she is much past high school yet - mentally, socially and emotionally.
November 1, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
And are all you guys and gals feeling as sick to your stomach as I am?
The anticipation is killing me.
November 1, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm finding that drinking Redhook ESB Ale has been helping tremendously.
In 2000 I was driving home from work when they called Pennsylvania for Gore. I yelled and honked my horn because I knew this meant Gore had won - Florida had already been called for Al and the map showed no realistic way for Bush to win. I was elated.
Ten minutes later when I got home the networks had taken Florida away - and you know the rest. I was up all night watching and getting more bummed out by the minute. Part of me had been bummed out for the eight years since.
I am really really really looking forward to the end of this nightmare, but as a Cubs fan I am not believing it until it happens. The anticipation is killing me too.
November 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
REDhook? Your just another one of them Obama commies. You betcha.
November 1, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel sorry for Pat Buchanan. He has such a hard time keeping the religious right out of bed with the neocons.
November 1, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not me. Enjoying the ride here.
BTW, very well put in your comment about Airhead Bimbo's ambiguous relationship with English.
November 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ugh. Reply-challenged here today. Feh.
November 1, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't understand "shoring up strategies." I thought the surge was the be all end all strategy for any military situation.
November 1, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, every time she is asked about foreign policy she of course has no clue whatsoever about, she almost always utter the word "strategy" without any specifics. Perhaps, she was told just to say the word "strategy" as the word may make her sound somehow knowledgeable.
November 1, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's how she separates herself from Bush. She doesn't say "strategery."
November 1, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Iraq is the Mother of All Clusterfucks to the point where not one Repug talks about it the same way twice.
To date I do not know why we are in Iraq. Cmmdr CooCoo is up to about 75 justifications.
The Repugs are mostly down to: cause people have died there so we must honor their deaths until every last one of our people is dead.
November 1, 2008 3:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
So who fathered the Republican Party?
November 1, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.
November 1, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, that is beautiful.
November 2, 2008 1:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Palin wants to suggest we are already at war with Iran, it is well within her First Amendment rights to say so. After all Eagleburger thinks given some on the job training, she will be able to handle any foreign policy problem.
November 1, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just more of that "GOTCHA" journalism from FOX!?!#
Well, at least they are finally doing some sort of journalism.
November 1, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The thing about this is that whether a gaffe or not, Iran is likely to pick it up and make something out of it.
November 1, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. It doesn't matter what she meant, it matters what she said. Again, can't take those words back. She is such a dumb ass.
November 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll ask one more time since no journalist seems willing to ask: Why aren't her kids in school?
November 1, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is one of the best goddamn questions nobody has ever asked.
She's dragging those kids on the campaign trail - it would seem to me to be one of the first questions asked.
November 1, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because the fact that the young children of a vice-presidential candidate aren't in school isn't anywhere near as relevant as the fact that the presidential candidate of the other party has a distant relative living in Boston and that distant relative is, gasp, BLACK, and, AN ILLEGAL ALIEN!@!##!$$$!$
OMG!!!
That's a wet dream come to life for Rush Limbaugh, if you ask me. And please excuse my bawdiness.
November 1, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Naw = reporters were scared shitless of being called sexists, I think.
November 1, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Sarah Palin is the future of the Republican party then all I can say is:
Bring. It. On.
To coin a phrase...
November 1, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why are we hammering at the fact that the woman can't speak coherently, nor does she understand anything about the world and what's going on in it. If we've got this kind of time, let's spend it making calls for Obama in battleground states (that's what I've been doing all morning). Go to http://pol.moveon.org/obama/teams/index.html?id=14931-1937-4IysG2x&t=2
November 1, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
We're all doing our part and have been. Thank you for what you're doing JimmyBobby.
November 1, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for all that calling! We've been covering the hammering end of things while you were away.
Somebody's gotta do it!
November 1, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
From each according to his ability.
;)
November 1, 2008 3:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm on the ground in PA Sunday-Tuesday, JimmyBobby, as I bet many of us are here. But this place is like family -- its been a long road since January in Iowa and I like to check in to see how my comrades are doing.
November 1, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, dude. Me, too. It just seems like Palin is such an easy target -- too easy for all the great brain-power on this site. Peace!
November 1, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is less valuable as a sign of her lack of preparation than it is in suggesting there's a secret, illegal war going on that Bush and Cheney have let McCain-Palin in on. Biden, Clinton(s), Gore should hit this hard -- what is this war in Iran? what are we doing over there? does Congress know about this? do the people? -- until she has to confess to making a mistake.
November 1, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe not a slip of the tongue so much as a slip of the stupid.
November 1, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
George Bush used to make these Freudian slips all the time. If you really listened to him over the years you could tell what he was up to most of the time. He telegraphed, invariably, in some way.
It was just such an ordeal listening to him -
November 1, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
This went around a while back with Bush as the butt of the joke, but it works just as well with Palin.
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.
The old rancher said, "Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle."
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.
The old rancher said, "When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle."
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. "You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with."
November 1, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
We all know McPalin wants to start a fight with Iran. This comment should surprise nobody.
November 1, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
BREAKING:
Sarah Palin is pranked--extensively--by a false French President "Nicholas Sarkozy."
As the call becomes more and more farcial and unbelievable--as the "President", swears, makes double entendres, and sings, all in an exaggerated French accent, she continues. She never discovers it until it is revealed:
headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/11/shes-ready.html
Listen, and decide how she might respond to a false Vladimir Putin.
November 1, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
She meant
Eye-wrack and Afghanistan.
She was eating for pete's sake, do you expect her to say "Afghanistan" between bites?
And by now y'all on the "far left" should know how to interpret her.
It doesn't matter anyway because once you figure out the gibberish and then put it through the BS strainer there is nothing there.
November 1, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
She meant
Eye-wrack and Afghanistan.
She was eating for pete's sake, do you expect her to say "Afghanistan" between bites?
And by now y'all on the "far left" should know how to interpret her.
It doesn't matter anyway because once you figure out the gibberish and then put it through the BS strainer there is nothing there.
November 1, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am SO gonna miss her. What the hell am I gonna do without Sarah for entertainment?
November 1, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fear not. Now that she is a household name, surely a Senate run is next. We will hear more from the Palin.
November 1, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why does every interview have a Palin kid in the shot? They even had 'ole Todd feeding 'lil Trig the other day.
That's not family values - it's creepy!
November 1, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Palin was referring to this:
http://current.com/items/89438469_america_s_secret_war
November 1, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
They told her we're going to war with Iran if McCain wins, they just forgot to tell her it's a secret right now. Doh!
November 1, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
(I'm new to this place, so bear with me please). Somewhere further up the list someone asked why Palin's kids weren't in school. I believe it was stated 'early' on in her introduction to the electorate, well, to the Base, that her kids were home schooled. Assuming Gov. Palin is devoting all her time to fulfilling the duties of her office, one can only assume that Todd is doing the schooling.
Of course, I also kind'a think UFOs are real, as well...
November 1, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
(I'm new to this place, so bear with me please). Somewhere further up the list someone asked why Palin's kids weren't in school. I believe it was stated 'early' on in her introduction to the electorate, well, to the Base, that her kids were home schooled. Assuming Gov. Palin is devoting all her time to fulfilling the duties of her office, one can only assume that Todd is doing the schooling.
Of course, I also kind'a think UFOs are real, as well...
November 1, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The power is on but low amps.Can't hold the data in place.The robo-caller in person defaults to auto-scan for recently saved/viewed words.
All the true facts available considered, this may be their least worst/semi-best choice.
Think about it: if live robo-caller was only able to use true clips they would have silence.
November 1, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who can blame her, with all those borders they share with Pakistan?
November 1, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
finally!!!...i'm just glad to realize i ain't the only one who feels baffled by Gov. Palin's level of incoherence...i mean, this woman makes "Bushisms" fade into obscurity...i can't wait for her "Palinisms" to come out...haha..BTW, pls go out and VOTE VOTE VOTE...it wld be a massacre if she gets anywhere near the White House...
Kina.
November 2, 2008 2:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Would/Could Bush "start" a war to help McCain get elected and or "help" the (Rep.) economy?
Maybe Bush is out of sight because he and his followers are planning their "hail Mary" get McCain & Palin elected TRICK on the American (and World) people...
November 2, 2008 6:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
See also, Israel debates Iran strike, I might be right after all!
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2008/11/02/israel_debates_strike_on_iran_to_cripple_its_nuclear_capabilities/
November 2, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink