TPM Track Composite: Obama's Lead Slips, But Still Strong
Here's our daily composite of the six major national tracking polls. Barack Obama's support may have dipped slightly in today's polling as the race slowly tightens, but John McCain has failed to make new headway and Obama remains ahead:
• Gallup: Obama 51%, McCain 44%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Rasmussen: Obama 50%, McCain 47%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 51%-46% Obama lead from yesterday.
• ABC/Washington Post: Obama 52%, McCain 44%, with a ±2.5% margin of error, compared to a 52%-45% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Hotline/Diageo: Obama 49%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.3% margin of error, compared to a 50%-42% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Research 2000: Obama 50%, McCain 44%, with a ±3% margin of error, compared to a 50%-43% Obama lead yesterday.
• Zogby: Obama 49%, McCain 44%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 49%-45% Obama lead from yesterday.
Adding these polls together and weighting them by the square roots of their sample sizes, Obama is ahead 50.2%-44.4%, a lead of 5.8 points, compared to the 50.6%-44.4% Obama lead from yesterday.















Here come the concern trolls.
October 29, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was just about to write the same thing....lol!
October 29, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
i don't know, I think we've 'concerned' this one to death this week.
October 29, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck yeah.
October 29, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah.
October 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's tightening!!!!!!!!! Da, da, da dum.
October 29, 2008 7:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh noes! We're losing!
/concern
October 29, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT - From a poster on Salon, re Sarah:
>blockquote
October 29, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric: I request for a thread analyzing the state polls versus national polls.
Frankly, your insight into daily trackers is akin to a third grader. What does the slip mean? Is it reflecting in any state polls? Can you correlate the "slipping" with other polling data?
I'm not trying to bash you, those are serious questions and I'd appreciate some serious answers.
October 29, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Umm, Kash, "akin to a third grader" sounds a bit like a bash. :)
October 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL....
I was being kind when I compared him to a third-grader. But Eric has a heart of a third grader as well and we love him for that.
J/K.
I'm sure Eric enjoys being bashed and we enjoy bashing him.
October 29, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pretty sure Eric enjoys baiting us, because we are so reliably and easily baited.
October 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric, if you're reading this "Fool me once...."
October 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotcha Kash.
October 29, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kash... you're a dick.
October 29, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it will steady to about a 5 point lead on 11/4.
We cannot forget Obama is running up the numbers in early voting. He's built a 3 run lead in the first two innings.
Is it possible that McCain could come back? Maybe. But with the Obama lead, how poor is McCain's GOTV efforts going to be? My guess is very poor. There is no excitement on McCain's side.
October 29, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope.
October 29, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
So right. Those who say otherwise need to lay out the Electoral votes that would make it so.
October 29, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully, Barack will Seal the Deal Tonite -- But here’s the Obama Infomercial We’d Really Like to See!
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4415
October 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone know whether the Obama ad is live, or delayed, for each time zone?
October 29, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Simulcast in EST and CST and delayed in PST.
October 29, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've read that the first portion will be taped, but then there will be a live appearance by the Obamas at the end.
October 29, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's largely taped - highlighting four families and their struggles and why they're voting Obama and will be better under President Obama. There will be a live component (*hint* Obama is stumping in Florida tonight with Bill Clinton), but most of it is taped and already delivered to the networks.
October 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure you're right, but I don't quite understand the reliance on Bill. Obama is already doing better than Bill did at almost every level -- INCLUDING WHITE MEN.
So, to put it crudely: why does he need Bill, who I believe never got more than 43% of the vote?
October 29, 2008 6:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, Clinton got 49.24% in 1996.
October 30, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
That would certainly beat this.
October 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huge narrative re-taking event this evening.
October 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kash,
for good analysis on the polls, I use 538. Nate is just perfect for this.
October 29, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do too. I'm just challenging Eric to bring a few more brains to work.
October 29, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I do too. I'm just challenging Eric to bring a few more brains to work.
October 29, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
well, i have given up on him a long time ago...
October 29, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Short summary: of six polls, one shows no change, two are +1, three are -1.
Overall trend: nada
This is the definition of statistical noise, folks. Nothing to see here.
October 29, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
What, no "clinging?"
October 29, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Chuck Todd is still promoting the expectation that the race will tighten slightly for a few days before Tuesday.
October 29, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck Chuck Todd. A month ago he was saying that wherever the race was on Oct. 15 would be how it ends.
On the 15th Obama was up, what? 10? 15?
Lying fucker.
October 29, 2008 6:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
He did say that, I remember quite well.
October 29, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
2006 tightened before the electoral tsunami.
October 29, 2008 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shorter Eric:
+07 => +07 Gallup
+05 => +03 Rasmussen
+07 => +08 ABC-WaPo
+08 => +07 Hot-Dog
+07 => +06 R2k
+04 => +05 Zogby
October 29, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
But, didn't everyone say it would tighten? I'm not feeling too much panic, as a lot of people (here, too) said the polls would tighten. And, aren't the numbers still good?
October 29, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
The race (nationally) is tighter than Eric/TPM are reporting. Not included here is the TIPP tracker or Gallup's other likely voter model (both have Obama up by 3 today). This is a 5-point race nationally. Get out to a swing state and work your tushies off.
October 29, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You THINK the race is tighter, since it is all subjective and depends on the polling procedure or averaging procedure. The only verification of this "forecast" we ever get is on election day, and other factors can get in the way of us truly knowing how close our "forecasts" really are.
To back up the TPM method above, my partisan ID-weighted poll averaging method (which includes IBD/TIPP) shows the race as:
Obama 50.9%
McCain 42.5%
Other 2.7%
Undec. 3.9%
This is about half a point drop from what I had yesterday. Tomorrow, I clear out a couple polls that become 1 week old.
http://www.slincoln.com/polling.html
October 29, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has been above 50% for 10 days straight and 18 of the past 20. On Wall Street they call this a trading range. Here are the latest 10 days:
October 29, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT,
Anybody seen any analysis of Palin's "major energy speech" this morning?
I caught about 2 minutes of it walking out the door to work and all I heard was "Noun, conjunction, Energy, conjunction, Energy Independence, wink, shoutout, Solar Energy, adverb, conjunction, doncha know."
October 29, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I believe the biggest news coming out was her giving the hard sell on the "Drill, baby, Drill/Alaska has so much oil" while in a solar energy plant.
October 29, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It occurred to me that if they are only polling who haven't voted yet, that might account for a bit of tightening in the national polls.
October 29, 2008 6:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are going to Drill-Baby-Drill for oil UNDER the solar plant, duh.
October 29, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a (really cute) environmental-science major, you should take on the (admittedly also-cute) Gov. Palin in a debate.
October 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
It wouldn't be much of a debate... sadly, in my early state of knowledge, I would destroy her. She is almost void of any environmental knowledge. I'm not even sure if she knows where to look to get any.
October 29, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric's blind faith in polls reminds me of that of Fundamentalist reading of Holy Scripture. It's equally mindless to say that "Obama's Lead Slips" because of these things.
October 29, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eric's blind faith in polls reminds me of Fundamentalist reading of Holy Scripture.
It's equally mindless to say that "Obama's Lead Slips" because of these things.
October 29, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you want fun, look at Bill O'Reilly's Electoral Map which was posted to Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/29/11202/363/710/645087
Serious bong hitting going on there.
John
October 29, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
And if you think Kos was shitting:
http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/winning-the-electoral-college
John
October 29, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cripes all, can we please retire the lame-o term "concern troll?" Let me introduce a new term: "Pollyana troll." I.e., those who discount any even remotely negative development for Obama in the presidential campaign, and seem to get insulted on a bloody personal level should anyone express 'concern.' Do I think Obama will win? Yes. Do I worry about a McCain upset? Yes. Does this make me a "troll?"
There is a difference between concern and a predisposition to defeatism. Please Louise.
Robert
October 29, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't.
No.
October 29, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Danke jzap. And I'll try and follow your advice. (I do find that klonopin helps. ;-) )
Robert
October 29, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here in Virginia, when it snows, we're not ready for it in the least, and all the schools shut down and the kids get the day off. Hence, schoolchildren in VA watch weather reports of impending snow with great interest and anticipation. Look, there's a 60% chance of snow! One inch, and we're home free! Though those snow days are long past for Old Smitty, I realize that I am watching these poll figures with the same fascination. The bigger point? I don't know if there is one. But I feel like tomorrow's not going to be a drag if the poll numbers will just keep saying what I want them to. Or if it snows.
October 29, 2008 11:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would be nice to use a map of the u.s. which is not based upon "territory" but rather on population. territory maps favor the republican meme. maps showing the size of the state based upon the people not the "dirt" help our meme. I commend such an approach to your attention.
October 30, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm assuming this poll was taken before the infomercial tonight. Now the focus is all back on Obama, and the renewed widening of the gap of his lead in the polls is sure to follow. The spotlight is entirely on him, and by not mentioning McCain's name once in the ad, he both took the high road AND made sure the buzz stayed on him. Pretty sharp!
I've recently discovered a new website,
http://www.perspctv.com that actually measures buzz alongside potential votes by tracking and then graphing the number of mentions each candidate gets in the blogosphere, under the theory that the more buzz, the more publicity, the more votes. It's fascinating. And Obama, who's spending 150% more than his opponent on advertising, seems to be subscribing to that theory as well.
October 30, 2008 1:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
The morning Zogby -
O - 50.2% yesterday ( 49.1%)
M - 43.3% yesterday( 44.4%)
http://www.zogby.com/
October 30, 2008 3:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I do believe it is maybe time to just stop watching the polls (yes -- begs the question: Why am I here...?).
I mean, barring some "great changer" (Bin Laden tape, Biden accidentally slapping a baby instead of kissing it, McCain accidentally telling the truth at a rally and saying "You can't trust him to lead us (yet) because he's a black man", Palin accidentally saying "I'm a maverick and I think Alaska should be an independent country" etc.) the campaigning is really over.
What is not over: We just have to get to the polls, stick out whatever intimidation we find there, demand alternate paper ballots (not "provisional" ones) if things do go wrong at the polls, and offer to drive, walk, or carry any old or young voters we know to the polls.
In short: The candidates have done what they can. It's now all up to us, and we must not fail them now.
Oh yeah: Remember the down-ticket votes. No change will happen if Obama stands against a Congress that can filibuster any propositions of change to a standstill. The Senate Republicans of the 110th Congress obstructed bills and discussion of bills 104 times in the last two years alone. That, by the way, is an obstructionist record.
October 30, 2008 8:08 AM | Reply | Permalink