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TPM Track Composite: Obama's Lead Expands In First Post-Debate Polls

Here's our daily composite of the five major national tracking polls. With one new day of post-debate data within these three-day trackers, Barack Obama's significant lead over John McCain has expanded slightly:

Gallup: Obama 52%, McCain 41%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday. At 11 points, this is Obama's widest lead in the Gallup poll for this whole campaign so far.

Rasmussen: Obama 50%, McCain 45%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 51%-45% Obama lead yesterday.

Hotline/Diageo: Obama 47%, McCain 41%, with a ±3.3% margin of error, compared to a 45%-44% Obama lead yesterday.

Research 2000: Obama 51%, McCain 41%, with a ±3% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.

Zogby: Obama 48%, McCain 44%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 47%-45% Obama lead yesterday.

Adding these polls together and weighting them by the square roots of their sample sizes, Obama is ahead 49.9%-42.6%, compared to a 49.7%-43.2% Obama lead yesterday.


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26 DAYS LEFT!!!

D-DAY IS ALMOST HERE!

How sweet it is! I'm ecstatic over the highly probable chance to have an intelligent, effective, and smart leader!

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highly probable chance
LOL - nice hedge! j/k I'm a big "don't count your chickens" kinda guy too.
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Lessee here...  256, 257, 258, 259...  more on the way, too!

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You sure pissed off one psycho troll.

It appeared last night claiming it had formally complained about you to Josh.

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Which one? tellmemore, I hope?

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No - this troll was new and used initials.

This started on a thread yesterday - this troll came in psycho - it came in yelling yesterday and then jzap posted a comment in a reader's post that set the thing off.

It didn't stick around, but it was the kind of psycho troll I've not seen in awhile.

I was stalked by a psycho troll for about a year and a half - this one was that kind of troll.

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I saw it.  I even left a reply, though quite a bit later.

Psycho seems like a good description.  Truly disturbed in a frightening way.  I definitely saw two personalities coming through at the same time.

We live in interesting times.  I might as well enjoy the landscape.

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I completely forget about Mr. Figgots.

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FiveThirtyEight has him at 347 with a 90% chance of winning. I just never rule out October Surprises or Republican "voter suppression" efforts.

Yeah, until I don't see McCain bring in Bin Laden by the hair or some other uber-desperado act, I will rest easy.

I am still waiting for there to be any good reason to vote for McCain, it used to be taxes until his healthcare plan came out. Honestly, the only reason I have seen why people are voting for McCain is out of fear. They're scared of changing things, even though it could be for the betterment of everyone. If there are good reasons to vote for McCain, Obama does them better (ie Foreign Policy, Military, etc).

Anybody got any good, normal, well thought out reason to vote for McCain? I can't think of any...

The fear of a President Palin negates any rational reason, if one exists.

It's not normal or well thought out, but it's the same 30% who think GWB is doing a great job. He's managed to convince another 5- 15% of the electorate that he's something new and different, and I would bet that those folks are mainly Palin's evengelicals.

D-Day is today for Palin. The Alaskan supreme court weighs in on the troopergate investigation she and McCain have been trying to de-rail.

Hotline clearly had some outliner data from yesterday.

What's odd is that it's a "tracking poll", so you would think that something that spiked the data so close on Wed would take until Fri or Sat to wash out. Very strange.

John

Hotline had it close on the Tuesday release, as well. Apparently, McCain had a really good day in their Monday sample.

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Hotline/Diego poll for today and previous three days (release dates shown)...

  Obama +6 10/9
  Obama +1 10/8
  Obama +2 10/7
  Obama +6 10/6

Sure looks like they've been working on the tracks while the trains are coming and going.

And let's not forget this includes another day of response from voters to the McSleaze onslaught.

Ain't gonna work.

I'm waiting until the day after the election to count my blessings. There may be an issue with electrically, hanging chads to worry about if the race is close and it looks like McCain isn't winning.

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I'd really like to see the numbers for the Hotline poll. Yesterday, Obama and McCain were tied on the economy in that poll.

I'm guessing that's just statistical noise. We seem to have settled into a nice margin. McCain in the low 40s this late means historical blowout potential.

http://pufferfish.typepad.com/

The plot thickens and the gap widens...

http://thepajamapundit.com/

"The plot thickens and the gap widens."

If I ever make a porn flick, that's going to be the title of it. lol

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It'll have a plot?

That's my concept, plot driven porn. Granted, it will take time for it to catch on. lol

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Ah, a throw-back to the 80's "Golden Era" of porn. Sure they didn't use razors, but at least there was a story.

Do I get some royalties? Perhaps a mention in the credits?

Or maybe a cameo....

Of course man, that's the least I can do since you came up with the title. :)

Well, I've got a million more titles if you are interested. A small sampling...

Clear and Present Dangler
James and His Giant Piece

Etcetera. :)

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There's no way McLame can change this momentum - these are for the most part, hard votes - we're barely 3 weeks out.

I cannot believe it - after everything we've been through -

I'll probably have a nervous breakdown until we can get through Nov. 4.

Just read on AOL that voter purging is on the rise in key swing states, mostly out of error and legit voters won't be able to vote in November - of course, they won't find this out until they ask for a ballot.

Gee, who could be behind such a mess as this? I wonder..........

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I read that, too.

The upside, ChiJoe, is that we're aware it's happening, if you see what I mean. They can only really make cheating work if they can do it without drawing attention -

It's that dastardly Bill Ayers!

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31 states have early voting, if people vote now they can fix problems they may encounter and avoid long lines on November 4.

Oh, if only you could move goalposts in the Presidential Election.

I'm sure they're trying to think of some way.

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SCrOTUS is gonna rule that the equal-protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment invalidates the Electoral College since it clearly does not result in one-person, one-vote.  It's a logical extension of Bush v. Gore.

Since no alternative election mechanism is in place, Dubya will will get to pick a designated successor to be President until Congress passes and the States ratify a new amendment addressing the problem.

Nov.4th can't come soon enough. The next 26 days is a life time in a political campaign.

Tena,

I totally agree with you that nothing will change this momentum - the economy issue is just a firewall that is unpenetrable!

Not even a "sudden and unexpected" Bin Laden tape can change this one!

Let's just hope these polls are an accurate representation of millions of voters in each state instead of a few hundered actually polled.

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I think the polls are consistently too low.

But I'm just as nervous as anyone is - I want this over with so bad. I'm so ready to quit worrying -

Amen.

Agreed!! After the bullshit of 2000 and 2004, the political party of boy who cried wolf and the girl who shot wolf won't be able to to get away with much....but they'll sure as hell try!

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Full court press. And they'll succeed in purging some I suspect.

Fuckers.

Why do Republicans hate democracy and hate America? What happened to the Republican Party?

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What happened to the Republican Party?

Ronald Reagan.

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You know what I honestly think? FDR.

It's all a reaction against FDR's 4 terms. I swear to god - the Republicans saw FDR as a socialist. They have been determined ever since to roll back every damn thing he did for us.

They've done a pretty good job in the last 8 years.

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Hmmm.  FDR.  Well, a lot of it does go back at least that far.

As the party of business, what they're after is (1st) cheap labor, (2nd) functioning markets, and (3rd) no regulation.

Until Reagan, though, they really believed in balanced budgets.  Reagan cemented their embrace of the TV-era appearance-over-substance strategy.

Any ties between rhetoric and reality became seen as unnecessary.  So the pick-pocketing of the American people proceeded apace with no ties to any ideological principles at all, other than to use whatever smoke-and-mirrors messages needed to get people to vote for them.

The impeachment of Richard Nixon. They've never forgiven it.

My .02-

McCarthyism and Civil Rights could be added to the list...

All of these things counted and accumulated into what we've got, but the worst of it was Reagan's giving quarter to the wacko right-wing religious contingent...with each republican successor worse than the last, like a sequence of deteriorating photocopy images, quarter is given to more and more out-there manifestations of this crowd, culminating in Governor Witchdoctor's human/dinosaur footprint worldview. Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker come off like Thomas Merton and Elaine Pagels in this context.

Soon it will be over.

I thought McCain camp was going to release the "evidence" this morning which would pratically end the race.

I was told Obama will be disposed to burn in hell. what happened?

It seems like business as usual to me, barring weird trolls who for some mysterious reasons only appear late nights.

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I saw that too.  I thought it linked to a Ben Smith post, but I can't find it.  Maybe it was a link to a fake Ben Smith page?

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Found it.  It was a reader comment that had a link to a Jonathan Martin post in Politico.  Not Ben Smith.

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Turns out the BIG! NEWS! is just another Bill Ayers web ad.

Here's Jonathan Martin's follow-up.

Shocker it is, my friends. LOL

Now that OJ's in jail they've decided to take up the hunt for the real Brown-Simpson/Goldman killer instead.

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It doesn't look like going all negative all the time is doing McCain any good. Maybe if he tried to actually address real problems with real non-ideological solutions, he would have a chance.

When you get into the weeds of Obama's proposals they appear to be pretty orthodox. If a couple of months ago McCain had fired his campaign staff and replaced it with some original thinkers willing to leave the Heritage Foundation reservation he might have been able to fashion a series of proposals that would have pushed Obama. So far McCain's campaign has been so predicably Rovian, all Obama has had to do is show up and smile.

They don't hate America - they just want to change it from a democracy to a group of dangerous thugs who think like they do.

Hence the birth of the Neocon sect of the right wing.

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I guess, ChiJoe, it depends on your view of what America is.

To me, America is our constitution and our democracy.


My daily two cents: Here's the VP net favorability in the Research 2000 poll, with the change since the VP debate in parens:

Biden +28 (+9)
Palin -17 (-7)

One of the best results of a decisive Obama/Biden win would be to tarnish Palin's tiara. She could still hit the lecture circuit, get a book deal with Mary Matalin and maybe a show on Fox if she wants it. But hopefully she would no longer be taken seriously as a national political figure.

I hope it's not tarnished too much; I would love to see Obama vs. Palin in 2012. What a laughfest that would be!

thats what fox keeps saying that she will be running against obama if he wins while everyone else says when he wins lol

How about the fact that she redecorated her office as major twice while women/girls had to pay for their own rape kits. Total cost to the city would have been a mere $14,000.

If I recall this correctly, Wasilla has one of the highest rates of incest in the nation.

www.wasillaproject.com

Kash,

First off, they were bluffing.

Second, McCain's campaign wasn't expecting the economy to take over the election. The last week of attacks and the over the top antics at the McCain/Palin rallies were a test to see how much shit would stick to the wall. None of it did, so they now have nothing.

I know. I was LMAO last night when a flood of conspiracy theorists invaded Kos, speculating the "end of days." Apparently, McCain camp cliamed to change the world this morning, just wanted to point out it still pretty much as it is, only it sucks a little more if you're
McLame.

By the way, I'm still waiting for the Whitey tape, the game changer. LOL

I saw that tape just yesterday, I SWEAR I did. It's bad.

On the flipside, Cindy will release the tape of her own. She can been seen working at a hot dog stand in the middle of Faluja, Iraq- bringing home to our soldiers serving million miles away from home.

Yeah, it turns out that it refers to Whitey Herzog.

Whitey Ball! The White Rat...Cardinal fan ere...

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O too funny!

They are getting a bunch of wackos over at Kos, aren't they?

LOL!

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ffHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Poll madness: Openleft is reporting that ARG has Obama up by 8 in West Virginia (!!) and only up by 1 in Minnesota.

Such silliness.

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I question both numbers but there were 2 or 3 WV polls released a couple of weeks ago that show Obama down by only about 4 or 5. I don't think Obama is up 8 in the state, but WV could seriously be heading towards toss-up status. And that is pretty amazing.

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At this point, I'm wondering if they switched the WV and Minnesota numbers...

Al Giordano at The Field said after Tuesday's debate to watch the polls in WV, AZ, and OH.

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You know, I would almost sell my soul for Arizona.

I want McLame to lose in his home state so bad -

Based on my inner avatar calculations my dear, your soul was frittered away long ago in one too many disrespectful posts. However, if it is any consolation to you, under the new McCain mortgage plan, you can repurchase it at current market value while Mr. Mc pays me the difference and leaves your brother and sister posters to pick up the difference. Surge on sister.

"Or would you know the weight and length of the strong coil you bear yourself? If was as heavy and as long as this, seven Christmas Eves ago. You have laboured on it, since. It is a ponderous chain!"

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You will enjoy seeing AZure Blue!

Here are those ARG numbers
M Obama Other Undecided
MN 46% 47% 1% 6%
MO 49% 46% 1% 4%
MT 50% 45% - 5%
NH* 43% 52% 1% 4%
OH 45% 48% 1% 6%
TX 57% 38% 1% 5%
WV 42% 50% 3% 5%

Nate does a good job on the WV number here:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-109.html

ARG is ARG... one takes their numbers with a grain of salt. The one that will be interesting in that state will be Rasmussen when it comes due.

The way the map is shaping up, especially in PA and VA, the Obama campaign might be able to shift a *small* amount of resources to WV late to try to tip it. It's not a key for winning the Election, but could be another one to add to go for a Landslide if that's what it looks like late.

Obviously they would rather throw more of their PA resources into OH and their VA into NC, and of course whatever they can throw into bringing FL home. But WV is another nice piece to add.

Need to remember that pain in the ass Rocky is running for re-election there, and a shoe-in. They might be able to get him to crank open his war chest for some Obama-Rocky ads in the last few weeks to help.

John

Tena,

Agree with you 150%, absotively and posilutely!!!

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:)

BTW, McCain's camp is already taking credit for the idea that the banks buy up the bad loans...because McCain supposedly suggested it Tuesday night at the debate.

Wow, I guess things really do work that fast! Just like you told crowds last spring that offshore drilling would decrease the price of gas WITHIN WEEKS.

Oh wait, is that reality creeping up again on the old man?? Darn, there go another 2 or 3 points Obama's way.

Don't sit on your hands people! This isn't an excuse to get complacent - the word still needs to be spread.

Phone calls need to be made.

Lies need to be resolved.

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I sent two-fiddy last night.


We're all working.

Elone,

McCain's people are telling their supporters to do the exact opposite of that - phone calls need to be resolved and lies need to be made!

Thank you, I'm here all week!

Holy Shit! WV as a toss up state.... That'll happen when we a black man is President ... Oh. Wait... A black man might be president....

I know we will all be happy when Barack wins... But to be clear please dont expect to see any black people on Nov. 5th we will all still be at home shocked and paralyzed with happiness. Trust me...But on Nov. 6th watch the FUCK OUT!!!!!!!

I Love it

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LOL!

Can I get an invitation to the party? I am so serious -

We've fucking elected our first bi-racial president, and his name is Barack Hussein Obama - I cannot fucking believe it either - I'm shocked, too!

Could this be the latest McCain distraction attempt?? Someone farted on Obama's plane???

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/09/reporter-complains-about_n_133276.html

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O now, Tellmemore/fogu posted that one last night.

He loved the idea of a bad smell around Obama.

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Josh posted it on the front page yesterday, too, as an example of tire-swinging.

It's a lot of self-important whining from an MSM hack about how the Obama campaign doesn't give the media gaggle the royalty treatment they're entitled to.

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Go read the reporters "report". It seems pretty clear that the individual in question is one of McCain's "base".

Check out these paragraphs towards the end:

The McCain folks are more helpful and generally friendly. The schedules are printed on actual books you can hold in your hand, read, and then plan accordingly. The press aides are more knowledgeable and useful to us in the news media. The events are designed with a better eye, and for the simple needs of the press corps. When he is available, John McCain is friendly and loquacious. Obama holds news conferences, but seldom banters with the reporters who've been following him for thousands of miles around the country. Go figure.

The McCain campaign plane is better than Obama's, which is cramped, uncomfortable and smells terrible most of the time. Somehow the McCain folks manage to keep their charter clean, even where the press is seated.

The other day in Albuquerque, N.M., the reporters were given almost no time to file their reports after McCain spoke. It was an important, aggressive speech, lambasting Obama's past associations. When we asked for more time to write up his remarks and prepare our reports, the campaign readily agreed to it. They understood.

"When he is available". Tire swing, anyone?

And perhaps the Obama charter is "cramped" and McCain's spacious is because no one really wants to follow McCain.

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That piece is just the most grotesque distortion -

My undergraduate degree is in environmental engineering (before I went to law school). And I just wanted to say how cool it is that you are using square roots in your calculations (and telling us so). Math nerds, unite!

I have the real math. Two to Five if Obama wins.

Cindy McCain calls Obama's the "dirtiest campain in history".

Obama may have bought a $3 million projector.

But McCain is married to a $100 million projector.

Now...

Let us reflect on the gift that Sarah Palin has given us all:

http://thetruthburns.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/maybe-i-aint-no-genius-but-is-sure-is-smartern-her/

Tena of course all Barack supporters are honarary black people for the day, especially you. After this campaign you know what it's like to be black in America..

To interview for a job and clearly be head and shoulders above the other candidate, but have to sweat it out to the very end because he's white and in our country White has carries more weight than qualifications... But things are changing..

So of course your invited, just dont get carried away and use the N word. Not sure i can give you a pass on that... :)

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Toussaint - I have restrained myself, though I must admit, I envy you that you get to say one of the best phrases going: "n****, please!"

LOL

The only reason the word ever occurs to me is because I am the world's biggest hip hop fan.

But you are safe - I'm not crazy!

Hey all. Long time lurker.

Is anyone else worried that even if the big O wins the election, the financial crisis will destroy any hope of health-care reform?


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Tell you what, it has taken me 25 years to get to the place where I quit worrying about things that haven't happened yet.

There's no telling what this crisis will do - but I'm willing to wait and see what happens.

I am envisioning for one thing, a new CCC in place to rebuild our infrastructure and rebuild it in an environmentally responsible way. I am also aware that if we start drawing down our troops in Iraq, we will start saving one hell of a lot of money.

It just remains to be seen -

You are such a romantic. My mindset has me toting bricks at the work camp alongside the drunk Kentucky lady John Cole has a link to.
You, of course, would get the job of handing out bed linens to the newly arrived workers at the CCC site, spending all your time talking to hip Taos handymen and some real low information people who are salt of the earth.

Tena- That's ok let it out.... (In private of course) Barack's my N .... or Barack is my Mutha F*ckin N... I do it all the time...

Debate watching is the best at my house.. A house full of African American with advanced degree's yelling at Barack like it's a fuckin Jay Z song...

Let it out and enjoy... If somebody hears you refer them to this post as your pass...

My Black card is still valid. Advanced degrees and all... :)

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Hell, it embarrasses me if I get caught singing out loud along with T.I. for instance - "you gonna make me bring the chevy to a real slow creep, my n*****s hanging out the window mouth full of gold teeth"

I have to roll my windows up - it's hard being a middle-aged white lady, I'll tell ya!

Someone talk me down from thinking George Will's column today is not the funniest use of an English political quote ever.

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Well linky to the piece so we can read it!

LOL!

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Thanks.

No I can't talk anyone down - that was fucking hilarious.

Will is having cold sweats and night terrors, apparently.

LOL!

Sorry, the cold sweats belong to Cindy after a chilly night contemplating Obama votes.

My cold sweats come from whenever I see Cindy.

I think we need a poll that accounts for the massive vote stealing and voter suppression that will take place on election day.

Strategic Vision, a GOP pollester, is now showing what is becoming obvious, as today we get this: Obama 54, McCain 40 in PA.

And this is the most surprising. Can anyone believe Obama leading in West Virginia by 8 points?
ARG Poll: Obama 50%, McCain 42%
And in Missouri, Obama 49%, McCain 46%
http://politicalwire.com/

And has she reminded us again? Tena has never been polled!

At my house we were discussing what it would take for McCain to come back and win -

About the only thing we could come up with was Johnny Mac walking on stage at the next debate holding Bin Ladin's severed head by the hair.

Landslide. Mandate. Big problems, but a big man with brains and character to lead.

Due to his war injuries, McCain could only drag it in. His staff wouldn't like Jake Tapper pointing that out in his blog, but Jake would do it anyway. After reminding us he told Obama not to mention McCain could not use a computer.

Saw George Will being interviewed on a local network the other night. He puzzles me - he slams McCain incessently, thinks Palin's VP nod is a disgrace...and yet when asked who he supports in this election, he sides with McCain.

For the life of me, I cannot understand people who vote for someone they hate only because there's an (R) next to their name!

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I think he's an example of Reverse Bradley Effect.  He says he'll vote for McSame, but in the privacy of the voting booth, he won't be able to do it.

You may be write you figgot basher. Check out George's column today: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/a_landslide_coming.html

I take that WV lead with a grain of salt - had they been tied or Obama up by 1 or 2, that's more believable. But then again, this whole campaign season has been filled with shockers, so I'm really, really hoping that 8 point lead in WV is accurate!

Breaking news: New poll shows Obama up 14 points in Pa.

http://www.citizensvoice.com/articles/2008/10/09/news/doc48ee3943a5436906503493.txt

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