TPM Track Composite: Obama Ahead By Six Points
Here's our daily composite of the five major national tracking polls. Barack Obama is holding a sizable lead over John McCain, and has slightly expanded it after a momentary dip yesterday:
• Gallup: Obama 51%, McCain 44%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 50%-46% Obama lead yesterday.
• Rasmussen: Obama 51%, McCain 45%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 50%-45% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Hotline/Diageo: Obama 48%, McCain 41%, with a ±3.4% margin of error, compared to a 49%-42% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Research 2000: Obama 50%, McCain 43%, with a ±3% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Zogby: Obama 48%, McCain 45%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-44% Obama lead yesterday.
Adding these polls together and weighting them by the square roots of their sample sizes, Obama is ahead 49.9%-43.9%, a lead of six points, compared to the 49.5%-44.3% Obama lead from yesterday.
Note that this is the first day of polling taken entirely after Wednesday's debate. The pre-debate baseline was an Obama lead of 50.3%-43.7%, meaning that McCain has barely made a dent since then.















Eric,
The NEW Sunday Gallup has Obama ahead by 10 pts among registered voters.
Obama 52%
McSlime 42%
October 19, 2008 1:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
EC isn't using that. It's using the "expanded likely voter" count, not the registered voter count. That number you refer to is for registered voters.
Eric used to include a paragraph at the bottom stating this, but no longer.
October 19, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a great weekend. Polls staying strong. I gave a donation to the Obama campaign that another donor matched, then saw the stunning fundraising totals from September.
And did I mention that I cast an early ballot yesterday for the next President of the United States, Barack Obama?
October 19, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
That must feel amazing. We need early voting in every state, so I can share in the feeling of folks like you.
October 19, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Our ballots were mailed Friday, so I should have gotten it Saturday but didn't. So now my brain is swirling with fear that someone stole my ballot because I have an Obama sign on my lawn. Probably the same kids who screamed "N*gger lover" at me when they drove by my house a few weeks ago.
My blood pressure will normalize tomorrow if it arrives then. If not, I will be down at the elections division by close of business tomorrow.
In my sister's county, you can print your ballot off the internet. How cool is that?
October 19, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
God I'd give anything! I faxed a request for an absentee ballot to Dallas on Thursday and I'm praying I get my ballot - the post office here is the worst in the country and Dallas County will not fax me a ballot. I pleaded.
October 19, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may have to drive there. Or have someone drive it to you.
October 19, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once again, why not add the IBD/Tipp poll to the composite on the map? It has Obama up +7.4 and will boost that margin!
But maybe the management has flipped to McCain.
October 19, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the management is on a tear to keep us nervous and therefore busy until the election.
That's been the leit motif around here for the last few days.
;)
October 19, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe, but the key to trending averages is to keep your source data coming from consistent sources. The actual value of the average doesn't really matter, its the trend thats important and that only means something if your data platform is consistent.
October 19, 2008 1:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woot! Back above where we were yesterday (although I realize that's not significant, statistically-speaking). Today is a great day!
October 19, 2008 1:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't like this poll tightning. But hey! a win is a win even if by just 1 point.
Unless Gallup is palining us.
http://www.236.com/video/2008/palining_9460.php
October 19, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forget the Powell Buzz, McCain Receives Endorsement of The National Enquirer
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4133
October 19, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even if this is pretty much within the margin of error, let's hope it's a trajectory.
We also need to keep in mind the number of early voters. When people are polled, do they just poll those who have not yet voted? If so, then the early voters, as we know, are breaking very, very heavily for Barack. If the polls are now only looking at people who haven't yet voted, then that would skew the result. Then it would look like there are fewer for Obama... since they've already voted.
Does anyone know if these polls are taking early voting into account? And if so, how?
October 19, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sent that question to Nate at 538, since no one has responded and I don't know the answer.
October 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looking at the Pollster.com national average, I have been a bit concerned by the sharp uptick and sharp downtick in the McCain and Obama plots respectively. It seems to be softening a little now, probably thanks to Obama's debate performance in comparison to McCain's. I'm also hoping that Powell's endorsement will give Obama a boost, or at least continue to solidify his lead.
(p.s. I know, I know, national averages are less important than battleground state polls, but it was a worrying indicator nonetheless)
No complacency folks.
October 19, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is anecdotal, but whatever. I got my list of people to call in Indiana--printed it out Friday night. It was a list of 15 people. Not that many. By Saturday, when I got around to calling and entering the data, only 4 people hadn't been contacted by then.
October 19, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
At this stage of the proceedings, the composite polling measure is Sam Wang's meta-margin - the median of state polls via Pollster.com run through his model
October 19, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meta-margin: Obama +6.78%
October 19, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've given me goose bumps.
October 19, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nazi Limbaugh is already underway to "prove" Powel's endorsement as "racist." In his email to Politico, he wrote, "Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race. I'm now researching his [Powel'] past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with."
As for Powell's concern regarding Supreme Court justices McCain, given he wins, might appoint, Limbpoop wrote: "I was also unaware of his dislike for John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia. I guess he also regrets Reagan and Bush making him a four-star [General] and Secretary of State and appointing his son to head the FCC. Yes, let's hear it for transformational figures."
October 19, 2008 1:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's dropped all pretense.
He's a putrid bag of gas and I really would sell my soul (Satan, you listening?) to see him explode.
I would consider it an act of compassion to sacrifice my soul for the good of the country.
;)
October 19, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, Tena, we can't let you sell your soul....unless it's to us. So please, we have the right of first refusal.
October 19, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rush will get his anyway. It's inevitable.
I left you a comment or so on your post.
It's a great post.
:)
October 19, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thx. Saw that. :)
October 19, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
The race-baiting of Powell is under way big time. For reasons I can't fathom, I'm on several right-wing mailing lists, and within an hour of Powell's press conference, I got an e-mail from the loathsome Judith Apter Klinghoffer claiming that he was "putting race first." Since then, three more in a similar vein have hit my inbox.
I can't imagine that this will work for the Repubs - too many people think of Powell as an American hero for the electorate to buy the new "anti-American n****r" spin. But until I see the results on 11/4, I'll be making more phone calls.
October 19, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
He had to have known how despicably they would throw him under the bus. It's truly loathsome.
October 19, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
His approval ratings are still at something like 80%. That's phenomenal considering his involvement in the first 4 years of the Bush admin.
October 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
This was inevitable, too.
I figured all along that race was going to get more overt the closer to the end we got, but it sure is ugly and more overt than I expected.
It makes me very sad. Racism is such small-mindedness. Of the sins against humanity, it is such a stupid small-minded sin and yet it leads to such egregious ignorance. And that just breeds more of the same.
October 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it was inevitable. What gets me is that there are still two weeks left. Now that they've shown themselves willing to race-bait one of their own icons, how much lower will they go? We've already seen "uppity" - are we going to see some Repub drop an N-bomb before the end, with others jumping in to legitimize it as part of the political discourse?
It's some comfort that the GOP has said goodbye to any chance of competing for the minority vote this generation. But that's not much comfort. I'm with Kos here - I don't just want to see them beaten, I want them humiliated. I want 350 EVs, 60 senators not counting Holy Joe, a 100-seat majority in the House, a resounding no on Prop 8, and a "fuck you" from the entire country toward this racist sleaze. That's what the bastards have earned this year.
October 19, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Giuliani says he "doesn't see the same things in Obama as Powell."
Well, in that case, the endorsement means zero. After all, Rudy ran one of the most amazing meta-campaigns we are likely to ever witness.
I mean, if he says so...
October 19, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does he think that we're all as dumb as he is?
Colin Powell MAXED out with a $2300 donation to McStain in 2007
October 19, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, we all remember Powell's famous endorsement of Alan Keyes for President in 2000.
October 19, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Swing States: CO, VA, NC, OH, FL. We win one, we almost certainly win the election. I don't care if we win by 1 electoral vote or 150, I just want to see McCain-Palin in my rear view mirror.
I'm worried about the voter suppression efforts, but pretty confident in the incredible number of new registrations and GOTV. Plus, polls in those aforementioned swing states have Barack ahead. It's going to be a tall order for McCain to run the table.
I'm just going to keep donating once a week, and making calls in those swing states....Although I am heartened to see the list of names to call is shrinking rapidly in those states.
October 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Poll numbers keep me pounding the pavement to ensure an Obama win in Florida. In the last two days of canvassing, I haven't noticed any of the complacency Josh referred to in his post. People here have a clear sense of purpose. They're not sitting this one out.
October 19, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone watching GPS on CNN. Fareed Zakaria is one of the best host on any political show. He is brilliant, and always provide what I consider a very good journalist...
And to my suprise!!!
Fareed Zakaria just endorsed Barak Obama.
October 19, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Doesn't surprise me.
I really like Fareed, too.
October 19, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love Fareed! What a good news morning.
October 19, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rush Limbaugh: "Muslims sticking together"
October 19, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
October 19, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
II like the way he said:
McWar is a man of the past. Obama is the future:)
October 19, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is well said.
October 19, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why are the polls weighted by the square root of sample size, rather than just sample size?
Doesn't that give the ones with smaller samples too much weight?
October 19, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Powell lost me with his silence about the war, but he is still an international figure.
His endorsement was prominently featured in the evening news here in France.
October 19, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't stand him either - he's a war criminal, AFAIC.
But I can see this endorsement is a big deal. So I am really glad he did it.
October 19, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
This new system is kind of bugging me. Why does it make me sign in each time I want to reply?
But I agree, Tena, Powell is a lying scum bag. It is amazing anyone gives him credence. He is just as much a war criminal as Condi, except she gets more of the blame and he skates on by.
With that said, lay people (which I don't consider any of us to be) think he is still a great man and respect him. So I am very happy about this endorsement.
October 19, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
His comments after the interview on MTP were more devastating, I believe, than what he said so carefully in the interview.
He called out Michelle Bachmann, if not by name. He called out Sarah Palin and the "pallin' around w ith terrorists". He was more forceful afterwards.
And CNN broadcast the post-interview live.
October 19, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's cool - maybe he really is trying to redeem himself.
He could win me over if he really wanted to. All he has to do is tell the truth about the torture.
That's what I care about.
October 19, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
O Dear, a few hours late and didn't I miss the party. This is a juggernaut Sunday.
Holy Fuck- 150 mil
Holy Shit- Powell endorsement
Holy Moly- Polls look strong.
October 19, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
150 is truly a staggering number.
Especially given the campaign's anti complacency worries recently I was kind of worried about a low number.
October 19, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even better - that 150 million included 632,000 new donors and the majority of that 150 M were donations under $100.
Now that's almost inconceivable. It's a movement, as someone else said earlier.
October 19, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. I just made a brief visit to the CNN website.
Lead Story: McCain "I Love to be a Underdog".
Ticker: Race still tight the new poll say.
If CNN is busy putting lipstick on a pig this early on a Sunday, I know we had a good day. LOL.
October 19, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, for some real laughs, click on the "Race still tight" link.
The "new polls" don't say any such thing.
In fact, the poll that they're referring to is a poll of polls from Florida, while the main part of the piece is on the national "poll of polls".
Better yet, I read a story in the Financial Times (linked to by Drudge) that speculated about the lead that Obama had, and whether that translates into a win. And here's the breathtaking part: the author points out that the lead Obama has now (for the RCP average) is similar to the lead that Kerry had (again, RCP average) "a couple of weeks before the election". Yet, I went back to the RCP archives for 2004 and Kerry NEVER HAD A LEAD IN THE RCP AVERAGES A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.
It was a blatant error.
Hey, I think it's ultimately going to be a close race. But the media's practice of relying on flimsy evidence or outright errors to keep it close in their mind is just journalistic malpractice.
Link to the Financial Times piece: Did you know Obama's lead is the same as Kerry's (except of course it isn't....)
October 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should seriously e-mail the author. That's ridiculous...it's such a blatant lie.
October 19, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I went back, to just doublecheck, and here's what the author said:
And here's the relevant graph from RCP:
Graph of Kerry-Bush race by RCP
October 19, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know...I double-checked it, too, after your post. It looks like the guy plain pulled it out of his you-know-what.
October 19, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This little cute piece of CW is one that really pisses me off.
The truth: Kerry trailed for half of August ALL of September and ALL of October. This was true on pollster and it was true on RCP. Period.
Cherry picking a single poll does NOT prove your point. Ugh. Gets me angry.
October 19, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's campaign: "Of the people, by the people, for the people"
October 20, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
The margin will go up to 20% once people hear
about the letter now up on Neil Young's website:
http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/index.html
McMajorShit is about to get another rocket up his ass.
October 19, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
That story is old, and bogus.
October 19, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
A band of KKK endorses McCain. Not a joke.
http://www.236.com/feed/2008/05/22/kkk_supports_john_mccainsort_o_6707.php
October 19, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, no surprise...
October 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was outside Good Samaritan Hospital in L.A. when the end came. A year later I was in the 4th Inf. in Vietnam. And I was there in that small group of people at the Long Beach Airport who stayed behind following George McGovern's last campaign stop in '72. We waited forty five minutes so the plane could be fixed and he could fly home to South Dakota. Yeah, the little group that Timothy Crouse mentioned in his book about the press coverage of the campaign.
I'm going to remember this day till I die, along with November 4th and January 20th.
October 19, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Powell has done himself a great favor today, in this country which believes in second chances he has put his country first when given another chance.
October 19, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am NOT buying Josh Marshall's don't-be-so-sure meme.
Obama's going to win...take that to the bank
But I am making MyBo neighbor to neighbor calls because I come not to praise McPalin but to BURY THEM
When you're opponent is drowning, throw him an anvil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oaj0CN72qA
October 19, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama and Josh are right. There are a number of elections where a last minute swing leads to the defeat of the leading candidate. The undecideds are impressionable. McCain is running his lying robocalls in the battleground states. We need to remain active and vigilant.
October 19, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
>I am NOT buying Josh Marshall's don't-be-so-sure meme.
I was a little put off that Josh seems to think people are slacking off...
but it never hurts to remind people that unless you work hard up the last day, you might see it all slip away.
I don't see any sign of that happening....
and Josh probably doesn't either.
October 19, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
The story somehow was misattributed to a professor at U.C. Santa Cruz. The authorship has been corrected. Would Neil Young with all of his "deep pockets" on the line, put up such a document for all to see without his lawyer vetting it's substance and authorship?
October 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
What-a-man What-a-man What-a-man...What a mighty good man!
October 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wanna take a minute or to
To give much respect to
The man who's gonna make a difference in our lives
October 19, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
You can take a minute to do that anytime.
:)
October 19, 2008 3:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
In a financial crisis...
My man is smooth like Barry, and his voice got bass
A body like Arnold (not), with a Denzel face
He's SMART like a doctor with a real good rep
And when he comes home he's relaxed with Michelle...
October 19, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
October 19, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's a real smooth brother, never in a rush
And he gives me goose pimples with every single touch..
Spends quality time with his kids when he can
Secure in his Patriotism cuz he's a real American
A lover and a fighter and he'll knock a knucker out
Dont take him for a SUCKER cuz that's not what he's about
Every time we need him, he's always got our back
Never disrespectful cuz his mama taught him that...
We got a good man!
October 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. Awesome! Let's hear more of this!
October 19, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry yall, I just had to let that out!!!
October 19, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't apologize - it was awesome.
October 19, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Rep. Lewis issue is McCain's racist dog whistle. There is no other way to really look at it anymore because he keeps bringing it up out of nowhere. Today he was on Faux News and when pushed on the robocalls, he quickly parried into the Rep. Lewis statement and how Obama didn't repudiate it (which he did almost immediately).
Now you have Limbaugh and his hate mongers selling the line (which was completely predictable) that Powell's endorsement is based on "blacks supporting blacks" - why did Limbaugh not classify Lieberman's endorsement of McCain as "Whites supporting whites"? What about other white Conservatives endorsing Obama - What's the correct smear for them?
October 19, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course it's a dog whistle. Same as the allusions to "welfare".
But I think the only people who will be able to hear the Colin Powell spectrum from that dog whistle weren't ever going to vote for Obama, and they wouldn't ever have said they were to any pollster.
October 19, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, Jeez, the welfare references couldn't be more blatant.
October 19, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a thought: while the references to Lewis might work as some sort of racist dog whistle, isn't it also possible that they reflect John McCain's anger at Lewis for criticizing his campaign that way?
He's got a temper, obviously, and he paid Lewis some high praise at that Saddleback Forum, and Lewis repays him by likening him to Wallace? That's gotta burn. Maybe it's just sheer anger that's producing the references to Lewis.
October 19, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
With McLame that's always possible.
October 19, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think a lot of McCain's issue is that he seems to consistently feel the need to play the "victim" and then use that as a justification for doing whatever the hell he wants to do. I think being a POW taught him how powerful that sort of storyline can be and how all types of sins can be forgiven as a result. It's just entirely colored his self-perception and made him, in my opinion, a bit delusional about his own actions.
October 19, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. And honestly, it's increasingly pathetic. I'm obviously biased, but the impression I get from his constant whining is just "this guy just doesn't have the balls to take any responsibility." I want to think quite a few of those in the middle have gotten the same impression.
October 19, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm of the opinion he's likely done that all his life. But it's his MO. That's for sure!
Lie. And Cry. The two themes of his campaign.
October 19, 2008 11:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
In the mainstream clan culture, a Jew does not count as white. White skin Christian is not enough either. You gotta have blues eyes, blond hair, unblemished white skin (freckles excluded) and be religiously supportive of Right Wing fascism. Heil Limbaugh!
October 19, 2008 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't get emotional easily.
But this picture, without anymore prompt, blurred my vision with tears. Courtesy: DailyKos.
http://s85.photobucket.com/albums/k76/eridees/?action=view¤t=kareem.jpg
October 19, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't Powell refer to this photo this morning on MTP? Either way, it's incredibly powerful. Those people who believe that being Muslim somehow makes you less of an American should be ashamed of themselves.
October 19, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed - when will we learn?
How many young Japanese Americans volunteered straight out of Manzanar?
When will we learn?
October 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Powell described this photo as part of his criticism of Republican Party leaders being out of line. It would make a powerful ad, I think, with this picture as part of the ad.
October 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I will be in class from 6:30 - 9 on Nov 4th, i will of course be with my laptop refreshing the hell out of TPM. My hope is that when polls close at 7 in VA that it looks like Obama is going to win that state, if we see that outcome then we can pretty much be sure Obama just won. Would be even sweeter if 30 mins after that the same thing happens in my home state of NC.
October 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
John Lewis needs to address McCain's slurs ASAP. Now it has gotten personal.
October 19, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
A little jealous? McCain is now saying there's funny business in Obama's fundraising numbers for September and there's scandal a-brewin'.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081019/pl_politico/14719
October 19, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, everything, literally everything, that they say or do to slam the Obama campaign fires us up because we see them slamming us as well. McScum calls the accumulation of small donations from ordinary people like us "scandal." I personally take that an outrageous insult, which prompts me to make another donation to Obama. Idiot.
October 19, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Polled my retired buddies in Fayetville...Got 8 for 8, they all early voted Obama and...They attended Rally with their kids and Grandkids...WOW
October 19, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
w00t!!!
October 19, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Home of the 82nd Airborne...All the Way!
October 19, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
And those sumbitches are soooo rednecked that their throats are purple...You figure...And After Powell came out they went in!
October 19, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just read in an AP NW: "In North Carolina, more than 200,000 voters went the polls in the first two days of early voting, last Thursday and Friday. Some 62 percent were registered Democrats while 22 percent were registered Republicans. On Sunday, the Cumberland County elections board added two early voting sites to accommodate people attending an Obama rally in Fayetteville, drawing criticism from state GOP leaders."
I am hopeful about NC.
October 19, 2008 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
For better or worse, Powell is willing to jump in the meat grinder for folks his supports. My big brother, a Naval Academy graduate and a rabid liberal, never could get mad at Powell for his UN testimony.
And I don't mean to try an convince anyone about Powell. But what we saw today seems to me to be a result of the same mindset. Powell just threw himself into the meatgrinder for Obama. And while many folks will think that Powell's critiques of McCain are what is truly devastating, I think that Powell putting himself in the line of fire alongside Obama is the real story.
Now folks who want to make Obama an "other" have to do it to Powell too. Rush Limbaugh is now having to attack Powell to get at Obama. That isn't going to go over well with alot of the middle-right folks that might disagree with Rush on some things but will still turn him on during the drive home.
Overall, Obama is forcing McCain to give up on the middle to run a base raced campaign. That is a losing strategy given the demographics of the remaining battleground states.
October 19, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jorge, I like your analysis. And I think you're right. I think that is exactly what Powell's endorsement is about. And maybe that's why he waited. Waited for just this meat-grinder moment.
October 19, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The way I see it Powell had to wait to lend credence to his argument that if he was just supporting Obama because he's black he'd have endorsed him long ago. He also had to endorse no later than now to avoid looking like he was simply backing the winning horse. Quite a balancing act. The timing had to be perfect in order not to look like a race thing or political expediency on Powells part.
October 20, 2008 8:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
I second that. This is not the year for the GOP to win by only deploying their base.
October 19, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign. You make Obama an "other", then you make every other African-American an "other", by way of Powell...
October 19, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Polls are only as good as the subject matter they are measuring. So while election day is weeks away, people being polled can freely talk about issues and candidates they feel are important because they're not being asked to make a permanent decision at that moment.
Since polls are a measure of people's intentions, it's more psychological than scientific. So with the voting process in the hands of human nature, it should be obvious to the most casual observer that there will be quite a large number of people standing in front of the voting machine torn about which candidate to cast their ballot for.
What people say while they have the luxury of time is one thing because they're not being held accountable for their answer. But what they actually do when time has run out and they have to commit to a final decision can be counter to what they've said when polled. Seems some people hate the idea of voting for someone who may loose, so they hedge their bets and vote to be on the winning side - which ever side that may be.
The only way to accurately confirm if polling data is a true measure of voter intent will be once the voting is done and the results are tabulated.
I've suffered thru a college level stats class and understand the process, but I disagree with the accuracy because human emotions are not easily quantifiable. They can skew the results in ways unimaginable.
October 19, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even then, how can you know for sure? Given that all polls are taken at a particular point in time and only with a sample. Whereas the election is everyone. No longer only at one point in time. But at least at the point of marking a ballot. Polls are only samples.
October 19, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm just downright pissed off at McLame over this continued crapola about how Obama's fund raising somehow leads to scandal.
I would love to be able to tell McLame directly that Obama's campaign has been funded by America. Cause that's the truth - America has funded Obama's campaign because America wants Obama to be the president.
It's just that simple, John. It is really insulting, as an Obama supporter, to be accused of impropriety for donating money in amounts too small to put a name on them. AS it happens, you can trace my donations and my husband's, McLame. Why don't you and your people take a look at the donors sometime. There are actually people living out here in America, McLame, in places other than those pro-America pockets of inbred redneck morons, which seems to be all you're spending time around lately.
October 19, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agree 100%, Tena. At this point his statements and campaign are simply in wacko territory.
When this is all over he's going to be in for a rude awakening upon his return to the Senate - his credibility will be severely damaged and his role as a Senate leader will be significantly reduced. The Repubs are going to be seriously pissed off at him for running such a terrible campaign, and the Dems are going to see him in a very different light - i.e. not guy they thought he was. There aren't too many people in DC he won't have alienated.
October 19, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Totally agree.
When McCain makes these sorts of ridiculous statements, he's attacking each and every one of us who can only afford to give in small increments. Screw him.
October 19, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, its pathetic to watch McW work in the service of corporate crooks until he figures out that they're playing him (he didn't finish at the bottom of his class for nothing) and then have to listen to him start complaining about corruption in grassroots funding. This campaign has really shown him to be a bottom-feeder.
October 19, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are desperate...They will probably push for a new bill next year...With complete disclosure but no limit on donations. Either that or raise the limit to 10,00 per person due to inflation.
October 19, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's like "sour grapes" or something:
Tainted money! That money must be tainted! And if not tainted on the way in, then sure tainted on the way out!
October 19, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has anyone noticed that no one in the media is talking about that adorable Sarah Palin and her spot on SNL? It has been buried by the Powell endorsement.
That's showbiz!
October 19, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given the performance, this may be one of the few positives the McW campaign sees in the endorsement.
October 19, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think the media is so very fond of her any more - not since that reporter was kicked in the back of the knees hard enough to make him go down at one of her rallies.
October 19, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like Repugs' real voter fraud is in the cookin': "In Florida, a perennial battleground, voters had requested more than 1.6 million absentee ballots, with registered Republicans requesting about 220,000 more ballots than Democrats, according to numbers compiled by both political parties" (AP).
Some Floridian should enlighten me about what's going on with absentee ballots there.
Early voting begins in FL tomorrow, and Barrack is teaming up with Hill to soar up the votes there on the 1st day. In an early GOTV rally, first Hillary's a rally in Fort Lauderdale at noon; Obama's another in Tampa at 12:40; and in the evening, they will jointly appear in Amway Arena, Orlando at 6:00 pm. So, they are holding 3 rallies in FL tomorrow.
On Tuesday, October 21st, Michelle Obama is holding an early GOTV rally in Pensacola. And the next day, she will be in another rally in Gainesville, FL.
Looks like one of the 6 (Obamas, Bidens, or Clintons) will be in FL every day from now on.
October 19, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plouffe and the gang are geniuses!
October 19, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign!
October 19, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
In Florida, absentee ballots are now another name for "vote by mail." My parents took that option this year. Anyone who chooses this, however, must follow the directions exactly and sign in the appropriate place before dropping the ballot in the mail (with two stamps, I've heard) or take it directly to the Supervisor of Elections office. My dad found out when he dropped his off that he can call in a couple of days to verify that his ballot is in the pipeline to be scanned on Nov. 4.
Many of the people I talked to today while canvassing in a neighborhood of mostly democrats were suspicious of early voting and vote by mail. They're content to wait in line for as long as necessary to vote on Nov. 4.
October 19, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any idea why the voters are more confident in conventional versus by-mail voting? Familiarity? Do folks get hard-copy documentation?
Out here in Oregon it is all by mail and people seem pretty comfortable with the process.
October 19, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do you expect after Florida 2000!
October 19, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, maybe I wasn't specific enough. What about the Florida process or a group of voters there makes them more confident in one type of ballot than another?
October 19, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Florida's recent presidential election history gives a lot of voters pause: boxes of absentee ballots misplaced, machines malfunctioning, shifting precinct locations (gerrymandered), etc.
Though a number of people I talked to canvassing yesterday decided to wait until Nov. 4, quite a few had already mailed in their ballots. It looks like roughly 1/3 will vote by mail, 1/3 will early vote, and 1/3 will show up at the polls. Some of the reasons given for waiting had nothing to do with lack of confidence. Those individuals were often first time voters and wanted the full experience of casting their ballot on election day. They're willing to wait in long lines if necessary.
October 20, 2008 5:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you can verify your early vote online.
This is the site from where you can do this, if I am not wrong.
https://doe.dos.state.fl.us/fvrscountyballotreports/fvrsefilings.aspx
October 19, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the info.
October 19, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. And, in many states, fill in your address by hand.
Here in CA, the return envelope is postage-paid. Very nice. I think that's a recent (several years?) change.
Very rewarding to have voted for a local prop renaming a sewage-treatment plant to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant. It's a very SF kind of thing :-)
October 19, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Careful!!! That's not the case in my county in CA (I just checked my ballot).
October 19, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
From a DKos diary: "According to the LA Times, Mark Jacoby has been arrested for voter registration fraud.
More importantly, this is not the first time that this individual committed this same fraud and the Republican National Committee was aware of his history and hired him again!"
He was a Repugs' rehire with the prior knowledge that he'd committed voter fraud in the past.
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Did anyone watch the Special Edition of Hardball tonight?
Pat Buchanan appeared as Limbaugh/Bachmann and accused Powel to be a traitor just like Obama, anti-American because he "betrayed" Repugs who gave him 4-star, Chief of Staff, and Secretary of State out of charity, despite not deserving any of those.
October 19, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know about the loser Buchannan, but my retired and currently serving members of the 82nd ABN...Gen Powell swayed them!
October 19, 2008 9:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Buchanan is like George Costanza in the "opposite" episode of Seinfeld. All his instincts are wrong. If he does the opposite, he will be right.
October 20, 2008 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Tenna ! We are going to have a convoy tommorow to vote!...only 40 but more than yesterday!
October 19, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
All they needed was validation.
October 19, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's very neat.
I'm waiting for my ballot -
October 19, 2008 10:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know whether you paid attention or not, this morning Andrea Mitchell at MTP said Obama has bought up all the remaining time/spots for ads in the major television networks, leaving no room for McLame to buy another spot, even if he has any money left (In her words, "Networks will have to make some kind of equal time decisions to get him on"). If this is true, this is a good news.
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In a passing note, when I watched today's MTP 2nd time, I found Brokaw to be a racist at the deep recesses of his heart (Brokaw: "John Lewis compared McCain with Wallace...Do you think Lewis' comment will turn off white voters from voting a black man at the booth?").
October 19, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrea Mitchell was doing some serious tire-swinging on MTP today. I swear, every time I start to believe she's not a whore, there she is on the corner...
October 19, 2008 11:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean her comment about Obama's money advantage? Yeah, that was awful. "Money gap is not addressed" (or something like that)... so what? What's the problem with people enthusiastically supporting a candidate, and in what way is Obama's money advantage any way comparable with McCain's sleaze? (Or was she trying to suggest the fund-raising number is "scandal"?)
It's really pathetic those MSM guys keep trying to make themselves look "journalistic" and end up with saying stupid things.
October 20, 2008 12:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Early voted in Albuquerque Saturday afternoon - they said they had very heavy turnout earlier in the day. While busy at my location, it took longer to vote than waiting to be validated/ballot retrieved/etc. (Dang initiatives and bond questions!)
While I was out running errands and voting, someone stopped by the house and left a flyer from Team Obama reminding us to vote early. Nice work. Aside from robocalls, have had nothing from the Republicans. Ok, perhaps that's less than nothing but still.
October 20, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Inundated a few months ago, Mary-Kay Gamel, literature professor at U.C. Santa Cruz disabused all inquirers as to her purported authorship of an account of one family's nightmare week-long vacation to Turtle Island in Fiji circa 2000 WITH THE McCAIN CLAN.
The same account can now be found on Neil Young's website, authored by Doctor Ana Dubey who is a practicing psychologist in San Francisco.
Given the amazing allegations made in the written account, it is not hard to understand why a mainstream media outlet or a political or current events website would touch it. Why suffer a storm of attack dogs, storm troopers (digital and otherwise) and Gordon Liddy wannabes?
Why would a major artist such as singer/songwriter Neil Young hazard the blowback from acting as an agent publicizing the allegations. He is known as having supported Ronald Reagan's re-election in 1984 and no one excepting a certifiable kook would suspect him of being a Rove operator of the left. He would not be so stupid as to feature the allegations in the way that he has without his lawyer and his record label's lawyers vetting the allegations and Ms. Dubey equally as well.
Moreover, it is well known that Neil's father has had a career in journalism in Canada and has been quite well known and respected north of the border.
Artist Young has deep pockets, his label has deep pockets and the McCains can surely afford the finest lawyers in the nation.
Wake up people; there may likely be gold here:
http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/index.html
October 20, 2008 12:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is huge and as usual ideal timing. Powell is as respected and liked as any military leader I have ever known. Troops still look up to him today including a certain new CENTCOM CC. I can tell you this has some die hards out here in the sands at a loss...one of the few occasions it is fun to be an Obama fan deployed :)
October 20, 2008 1:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Met him in Chu Lai
October 20, 2008 2:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Powell that is.
October 20, 2008 2:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pat Buchanan tonight -
One could see Buchanan knew how bad this was for McCain ..... He may be bat shit crazy, but he knows the chess game, and he knows that McCain just lost more than a pawn.
ABC is reporting that Palin called the robo calls "annoying".
October 20, 2008 1:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dutt were you in Korea?
October 20, 2008 2:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Guess Drudge will have to find a new poll, Zogby latest; O 50 Other dude 44
October 20, 2008 3:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was in the ROK between 05 and 07 at Osan wasnt a bad gig
October 20, 2008 3:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Was with 173rd tdy back in 69'
October 20, 2008 4:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
working with the White Horse ROK.
October 20, 2008 4:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Night shift here again.
Tinklinberg's take on ActBlue alone is, at 05:53 Eastern time, $275,478. Can we doubt he'll break $300,000 on ActBlue today, maybe before lunch time? http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18660
I gather he's taken in something of that same order *again,* via other channels such as his own site, since Bachmann's statement of "concern."
Wow. Hope he can put that cash to good use; it would be a shame to bury her in well-financed campaign work only to have the looney witch somehow beat him out. He's got to be clever how he uses this money; her message is going to be that the contributors are connected to Bin Laden, etc. Her site right now has nothing about all this, though, as though it were another quiet day in Minnesota's 6th District. Her campaign staff should have an interesting Monday!
October 20, 2008 6:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I donated last night...for her aspersions on us LIBruls!
October 20, 2008 6:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
It would be so nice to see all this generosity bear fruit, eh?
October 20, 2008 6:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Genorosity my ass...It's cutting into my beer money.
October 20, 2008 6:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey did anyone see Family Guy last night? 2 REALLY funny bits. Brian and Stewie go back in time to pre-WWII Warsaw and end up needing uranium. Stewie makes the comment "Hey Brian, the Germans are making weapons of mass destruction how come the United States doesn't invade them, kill all the Nazis and restore Democracy?" To which Brian says "Because there's no oil here?"
A bit later, they shanghai some Nazi soldiers and commandeer the uniforms. Stewie puts the jacket on and says "That's odd there seems to be something stuck on here" he turns the lapel over to reveal (wait for it) a McCain/Palin pin!
Bwahahaha!!!
October 20, 2008 8:15 AM | Reply | Permalink