Should We Fear An Obama Presidency? Palin Says Yes, McCain Says No
The McCain campaign can't seem to stop thrashing around in the thicket of mixed messages it keeps blundering into each day. Here's Sarah Palin, in an interview with Rush Limbaugh yesterday:
"You seem to understand the stark choice we have and the real danger the country faces in the future if the Obama-Biden ticket is elected. And I'd just like to know, do you see it that way?""I do," she responded.
Palin agrees that electing Obama represents "real danger." She may not have seen John McCain's appearance the other day, in which he explicitly dialed down all the fear-mongering his campaign and supporters have been indulging in:
"He's a decent person, and a person you do not have to be scared [of] as President of the United States."
It would be nice if this question came up at tonight's debate: Does McCain believe an Obama presidency would be "dangerous"? Should we fear it?
Given that we keep hearing that McCain has supposedly stopped with the fear-peddling and nefarious sliming of Obama, this seems like a question McCain should be pressed to answer directly.















McCain-Palin: Consistency is for Pussies.
October 15, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
The news of Cheney seeking medical care for his heart condition should remind us of the critical concern vis a vis McCain and Palin. What would happen if a President McCain should die? We may find out if, God forbid, Cheney should die and Bush is really in charge the last three months.
October 15, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
this seems like a question McCain should be pressed to answer directly.
Yes. If there was one question I would ask John McCain right now, it would be something like that. Or... "Are Arabs decent people?" Heh..
October 15, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is this the real you? Smart AND a hottie?
October 15, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someone didn't read the TPS Report.
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October 15, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Very slow on the uptake this morning. Brilliant comment!
October 15, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually it was "the memo" about the TPS reports. If you're gonna reference my favorite movie, then get it right!
:-)
October 15, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love the smell of Republican fear in the morning.
October 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Golly-gee, it would be nice if McCain and his friggin' running-mate were on the same page of talking-points, no?
If they are this confused between the two of them, can you imagine if his 'Keystone Cops' campaign crew were running this whole country. Jeebus.
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October 15, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't anyone tell John that a baracuda makes for a most dangerous pet? They're uncontrolable and can turn on you in a heartbeat.
October 15, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good comment indeed. I think the drug addict and the Moose Queen worked this out among themselves and neglected to copy JM on the plan. Any number of imbecilic anti-intellectuals are already touting Klondike Barbie for 2012, and this may be part of that.
October 15, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain be damn! If he had vetted her properly, he would have known she uses people to satisfy her hunger for power. She's laying the ground work for her presidential bid in 2012 at McCain's expense.
October 15, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
In terms of what we fear, I wonder if McCain might bring Osama Bin Laden's severed head to the debate tonight? What other potential game-changer could he realistically have, if not that?
October 15, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't one of McCain's flacks say sometime back that John McCain didn't speak for the campaign?
October 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ahhhhhhhhhh, team work!
October 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg wrote: "The McCain campaign can't seem to stop thrashing around in the thicket of mixed messages it keeps blundering into each day."
These aren't "mixed messages" and the McCain campaign isn't "blundering". They know exactly what they are doing: they are sending two different messages, targeted at different audiences. McCain is sending a message to "mainstream" voters that he is a reasonable and moderate person running against Obama because they have different ideas about policies. Palin is sending a message to the right-wing extremist dittohead base that Obama is a dangerous scary radical commie Muslim terrorist.
October 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Glad you got "commie" in there along with the rest!
October 15, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Glad you got "commie" in there along with the rest!
October 15, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Commie is so middle class. I prefer Marxist.
October 15, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Elitist!
October 15, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're straining to see something here, Greg, that isn't in the quotations you present.
Palin has many other comments that suggest we should fear Obama because of who he is; you've got her here responding to a question from RushBo, a simple "I do." And McCain's response was to a question that reflected clear bigotry, not policy.
Certainly many of us here at TPM rightfully fear a McCain-Palin administration. We're terrified about their policies, positions, and temperment. BUT that fear probably does not stem from bigotry about their ethnographic background.
Bottom line: as you present it, you're comparing apples and oranges.
October 15, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is all about McCain's ego. Politico says this morning that JM's advisors and Palin are all advising to go after the Wright association and JM won't do it.
I don't think JM won't do it because he believes it would be wrong, but because his own vanity and desire to maintain some shred of his dignity prevents it.
Obama gets another draw tonight and the McCain campaign starts slowly packing it in.
October 15, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I try to be level-headed about this stuff and I sure can be wrong, but I think you're giving the old curmudgeon way too much credit. I believe he won't go after Wright so much because(1) the Keating thing is the most horrible bugaboo for him and he can't take more of it, and (2) the polls show it isn't a winner for him. Palin and the crazed base, however, can better get away with it without losing more votes for their doomed campaign.
October 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
To see real videos of real women discussing their reactions to Sarah Palin & the misuse of gender issues in this year's presidential race, please take a look at the following blog:
www.speakoutonpalin.blogspot.com
October 15, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
good cop/bad cop?
or bad cop/corrupt cop?
October 15, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
More like Keystone Kops.
October 15, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
hell, let's just head to Wasilla and cop some meth.
October 15, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bad Cop/Stupid Cop?
October 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of Arabs, and an Arab longer of tooth than McCain, Ralph Nader did an excellent interview with Ray Suarez (sp?) on The Newshour last evening.
Nader's populist wisdom was sharp, and he was articulate, and not in the least hyperbolic. Nader is older than McCain and looks and thinks thirty years younger. McCain's age and health, physical and mental, are definately issues in this election.
Palin, on the otherhand, is an apt q.e.d. for the Greek observation: Morality without knowledge is dangerous; knowledge without morality is deadly,,,,, goes for the Bushies as well, in spades.
October 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wish the Obama campaign would make a new ad that leverage McCain's comments:
"John McCain has been asking us 'Who is Barack Obama' and now he's given us the answer: "I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments" "He's a decent family man, citizen" "I have to tell you he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared (of) as president of the United States"
Thanks John!
October 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
McLame’s campaign is just ridiculous! Too many agenda’s that’s not in sync with anything viable.
October 15, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
He says that he won't raise taxes but you all know that he will cause he's a democrat. He's also black, so you know that welfare is coming back. He's one of those elite intellectuals who thinks with his brain and not with his gut, like I do. I'm really worried.
October 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
An anti-intellectual concern-troll bigot! What a package!
Third sentence is as clear as mud, BTW. But presumably what you attempted to express is that you like people who don't engage their brains when thinking, consistent with your avatar.
October 15, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Over the past few days I've been thinking about her behavior, and starting to wonder if anyone has any control over this woman.
Maybe some of you can give me some input on my thoughts so far...
Assuming that McCain actually does want to tone things down (not too much of a stretch given how it's been working out for him), what power does he have to make her?
Or to put it another way: If Palin is the Bulldog, what is McCain's leash?
Let's imagine for a moment that she wants to keep doing things the way she's doing them no matter what McCain says. What kind of pressure could he put on her? He can't really make threats to her political career. She's a superstar in the religious right, where McCain holds no sway. She came from nowhere (Sorry Alaska), so worst case scenario, she goes back there and does her thing with slightly more notoriety. McCain has weak support from his own party (and it gets weaker every day), and it will be non-existent when he loses, so he can't hold the power of the (leaderless) GOP over her head. The only thing he can really do is kick her off the campaign, which is equal to conceding the election.
Does any of this make any sense? Given what we know of Palin's political career so far, does anyone doubt that she would throw McCain under the bus if she felt like it?
October 15, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
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October 15, 2008 12:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
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October 15, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
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October 15, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink