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Rep. John Lewis Compares McCain To George Wallace

The controversy surrounding John McCain's rallies took another turn today, with Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), a veteran organizer of the civil rights movement, releasing a statement condemning the McCain campaign and even comparing the Republican nominee to George Wallace.

"George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who only desired to exercise their constitutional rights," Lewis said. "Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed one Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama."

McCain quickly fired back with his own statement, defending his audiences and calling upon Barack Obama to repudiate Lewis: "I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I've always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track."

The Obama campaign then seemed to agree in part with Lewis, backing away from the George Wallace comparison but standing by him on almost everything else: "Senator Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies. But John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for President of the United States 'pals around with terrorists.'"

Check out the full statements, after the jump.

The Lewis statement:

Rep. John Lewis Responds To Increasing Hostility Of McCain-Palin Campaign

10/11/2008


"As one who was a victim of violence and hate during the height of the Civil Rights Movement, I am deeply disturbed by the negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign. What I am seeing today reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse.

"During another period, in the not too distant past, there was a governor of the state of Alabama named George Wallace who also became a presidential candidate. George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who only desired to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed one Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.

"As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Governor Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all. They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better."

The McCain statement:

October 11, 2008

Statement By John McCain

ARLINGTON, VA -- U.S. Senator John McCain today issued the following statement:

"Congressman John Lewis' comments represent a character attack against Governor Sarah Palin and me that is shocking and beyond the pale. The notion that legitimate criticism of Senator Obama's record and positions could be compared to Governor George Wallace, his segregationist policies and the violence he provoked is unacceptable and has no place in this campaign. I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I've always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track.

"I call on Senator Obama to immediately and personally repudiate these outrageous and divisive comments that are so clearly designed to shut down debate 24 days before the election. Our country must return to the important debate about the path forward for America."

The Obama campaign's statement:

"Senator Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies. But John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for President of the United States 'pals around with terrorists.' As Barack Obama has said himself, the last thing we need from either party is the kind of angry, divisive rhetoric that tears us apart at a time of crisis when we desperately need to come together. That is the kind of campaign Senator Obama will continue to run in the weeks ahead," said Obama-Biden spokesman Bill Burton.

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I hope this doesn't increase any tension. That's all I can say about it. I'd like to see a general stand-down now.

Please.

I agree. I like his comments and I think they bring up a great point, but with the race dialogue in America (or lack thereof) people just filter it so all they hear is McCain=Wallace. It could increase tension. I can't see this being a big deal, though.

I think Rep. Lewis is absolutely right, but the tone is not as helpful.

But when you're John Lewis, I can cut slack. He knows what this sounds like. And after his own experiences--many of them violent--this sudden gasoline-pour-on-the-flames of this noxious pair likely has him concerned.

I honestly think he feels like he's seen this movie before, and it's probably sickening and terrifying for him. Frankly, I haven't talked to my own parents about until today, when my Mom brought it up. I was hoping they hadn't heard about it...can you believe it? Wasn't growing up with this shit enough?

((Sigh)) I just hope everyone takes a deep breath before acting, but I can tell you that I absolutely detest McCain and Palin. No morals. No character. No honor. They have GOT to be the most morally depraved scum ever.

I'm with you. It just seems like something we should call out,though, because I do kinda agree with Lewis. I remember when McCain first starting going there and I heard the first "terrorist" from his audience members. I was certain that they wanted to stoke up violence so that maybe people would get targeted at the polls or such. I do think Obama and the Dems are handling this in the best way possible, however.

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Palin stood smiling in front of huge, energized crowds and told them that it was not only okay but patriotic to release their inner bigot and racist.

And McCain either directed these activities or was aware of them and did nothing for days. He condoned these statements when he thought they would benefit him personally, and only after seeing the polls drop further and the pundits scold his campaign did he attempt to change course and try to take the high road.

This country needs to come together on November 5th. We've had eight years of a disgracefully divisive administration, and McCain/Palin seem to want it to continue if they don't emerge the victors.

Shame on both of them!

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Exactly. Our political leaders set the tone for the nation. For eight years, the tone has been fear and hatred and lawlessness.

Good for Rep. Lewis making it clear that the choice Nov. 4 is not just about polities, but about the tone the new president will set for the nation.

McCain: more fear and hatred and lawlessness, PLUS racism.

Obama: calm competence, mutual respect, hope.

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Wow! Totally forgot about this little exchange from the Saddleback forum, but it bears remembering in light of these statements:

WARREN: This first question deals with leadership and the personal life of leadership. First question, who were the three wisest people that you know that you would rely on heavily in an administration?

MCCAIN: [...] I think John Lewis. John Lewis was at the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Had his skull fractured. Continues to serve. Continues to have the most optimistic outlook about America. He can teach us all a lot about the meaning of courage and commitment to causes greater than ourself...

(H/T to crookand liars.com)

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Obama handled it perfectly correctly.

Distanced himself from the most controversial analogy - but stood behind the gist of the argument - an argument that is perfectly correct and on target.

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Agreed. Obama's statement was pitch perfect. He, in essence, is saying "even McCain knows his supporters have gone too far." By condeming the things said at McCain rallies, he's challenging McCain to cut it out. McCain knows he has to do that.

But I don't buy this crap about McCain being conflicted or regretting sending Caribou Barbie to incite hate about Obama. He's trying to walk it back because it's backfiring. He's a worm. An old, decrepit worm.

Second'd! The balance in the response is just right.

Yeah, this is just typical of the Obama campaign in the last month or so. They've been almost anticipating all the wackiness and been a step ahead with a mature, thoughtful response from the higher ground.

You know... whoever he's got advising him on his timing and which moves to make... I really hope they're involved in the presidency itself.

McCain walked into a trap that he has set for himself... That's what you get when you take the advice of of Sean Hannity

As a lifelong resident of Alabama, as someone who all my life listened to the story of George Wallace saying he would never be "out seg'ed" again, I am all too familiar with the racist codewords. McCain knows that the GOPer base (after months of viral emails) was like dry tinders. So he sends in "Napalm Palin" to say she's "fearful" of Obama and that he's "not like you and me". And then McCain has the gall to stand back and act shocked that his campaign stops have turned into Klan rallies.

I believe the term he used was "outniggered". Wallace started out as a progressive of sorts. He died one too.

Wallace was a political whore. In an interview early in his career, he admitted that he could have gone either way on the racial issue, but discovered that, by running as a racist, he could acquire the governorship with less effort. Water flows to the lowest level.

"George Wallace is one of the worst charlatans in politics, but there is no denying his talent for converting frustration into energy. What McGovern sensed in Florida, however - while Wallace was stomping him, along with all the others - was the possibility that Wallace appealed instinctively to a lot more people than would actually vote for him. He was stirring up more anger than he knew how to channel. The frustration was there, and it was easy enought to convert it - but what then?"

- Hunter Thompson, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72

Lewis is right about the danger here. Wallace didn't have to personal throw a bomb. But his hateful message encouraged those that did.

One thing is clear: McCain & Palin are playing with fire. Essentailly calling their opponent a TERRORIST. This is dangerous to democracy, and unprecedented.

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Agreed. Frank Rich had a good column today that said just about that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12rich.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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You beat me!

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That doesn't happen often - I"m usually too lazy to pull links.


LOL

George Wallace, Jr. speaks before McCain's Iowa rally today in the form of a prayer (Source AP):
Unhelpful for establishing the tone McCain sought in Davenport was the Rev. Arnold Conrad, past pastor of the Grace Evangelical Free Church. His prayer before McCain arrived at the convention center blocks from the Mississippi River appeared to dismiss faiths other than Christianity and cast the election as a referendum on God himself.

"I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god - whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah - that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons," Conrad said.

"And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day," he said.

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This is just asking Christian God to stand up for himself, so he doesn't get his nose bloodied by a bigger, meaner god!

Right. This people are crazy: They are imagining the various Gods out there fighting each other. But if they pray harder than others, their God will win.

They are crazy!

Only by the standards of post-Enlightment civilization. This kind of thinking has been the norm throughout most of recorded history. Our gods are stronger than your gods so we win this war (or, alternately, since we won, that means our gods were stronger). Indeed, that's the majority of the Old Testament, right there in a nutshell. Not to mention the Illiad (an intermural squabble among the Olympian Gods), the Hundred Years War (is God a Catholic or a Protestant?), the Crusades, and every clash of civilizations from the Bronze Age to the Gunpowder Age. (The Romans used to cheat--they'd often pray to the local gods rather than their own if they were making war in someone else's country.)

Fortunately, we civilized secular modernists stopped killing each other in the name of our gods and, instead, started killing each other in the name of ideology. These foolish people are regressing.

Shorter Rev. Conrad: Gott Mit Uns

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The Hosseini (WaPo) article probably sums up why McCain has alienated nearly all immigrants and minorities by now:

"Obama's middle name differs from my last name by only two vowels. Does the McCain-Palin campaign view me as a pariah too? Do McCain and Palin think there's something wrong with my name?"

I thought that was pretty poignant.

A lot of people now know the Republican Party isn't a party in which we're welcome. If you're educated, an immigrant, a minority, an athiest, a Hindu, a Moslem, a Jew, it's not the party for you.

The Obama response again hits the right tone -- (1) it distances Obama from the Wallace comparison; (2) condems the "kill him" rhetoric of the crowds and reminds everyone that McCain has degenerate racists as supporters; and (3) needles the McCain camp for bringing it all themselves w/ the absurd "palling around with terrorists" line. Well played, imo. I would have been pissed if they dogged John Lewis to hard for this. BTW, the demand for a condemnation is yet another attempt by the McCain campaign to get race/culture into the mix in this election. They simply aren't playing in the same league as Obama, though.

This was a big mistake by John Lewis. He should let Obama/Biden handle their own campaign. The Right Wing is lusting after any excuse to turn the rest of the campaign into a black versus white contest. Lewis just handed them the key. Obama knows that, and he rejected what John Lewis said, fairly rapidly, but that will not stop the FUX network from running with it.

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Liam - do we really care what Faux runs? I thought we had that settled - they're going talk shit regardless - let em talk shit.

It seems that everyone knows what they are.

Tactics Tena, never hand your opponent what they are desperatly seeking. Think back to when Obama had just returned from Germany, and he was using the line about not looking like all the others on the money. McCain made great use of that, and gained with it. Obama can only win if he is seen as more than the candidate of Black Americans.

That is why, while what John Lewis said was correct, he should not have said it now, particularly after we had McCain on the run, and having to back down and suppress the rabble that he had roused.

Now Lewis, has given him a get out of jail free card.

A big blunder.

I think you're misapprehending the extent to which the terrain has shifted in recent months. It simply no longer matters what the right wing media says. No one except the true believers are listening to them anymore. They no longer have any impact on the general discourse. They may even be less relevant than the tabloids at this point.

Mmmm...I disagree. Lewis' statement forces the discussion in the media to the Right. Up to now, there's been a narrative out there that portrays McCain as a hero, stepping in to put out fires that he had no part in setting. Lewis pointing out that McCain and Palin very deliberately stoked these fires and are continuing to do so. Harsh? Yeah. But true. Now, Obama can come in and say something more moderate and palatable and let the truth just float.

Forces the conversation to the Left...

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It does - and that is a good thing. It's really getting pulled back that way.

I sorry, John Lewis is not Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. It would be a very bad mistake for FOX news to try to tar John Lewis as a being a racist radical like they like to tar Sharpton and Jackson and every other AA pol as.

Of all of them, John Lewis has damn well earned to right to call out McCain for what he knows could happen when people are incited to violence. He bears the scars. I know to some his scars aren't the same as McCain's, but he earned them honorably.

BTW, I'd go back and read Obama's statement, Obama did not reject Lewis' statement, just the comparison to Wallace. Besides, I respect Obama for not "repudiating" Lewis's statement. Lewis damn sure deserves more of Obama's respect than McCain wounded ego.

Nonsense, Liam. Lewis has the same right as you or I to express his concerns. Besides, I'd not be surprised if he did so with Obama's consent. It gave him a chance to be even-handed and -- please, God -- Presidential

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This will make it more difficult to play the Wright card, which was coming to the top of the deck.

Good point -- a preemptive move.

Yes. The Obama camp knows Wright is on deck. This will necessarily color that.

Obama: I don't think Sen. McCain is going down that road. (Do you really want to prove me wrong, John?)

Lewis's statement would've been a mistake a month ago. But McCain/Palin have gone so far over the edge that even other Republican leaders are speaking out against them now.

Lewis gives ammunition to the race baiters but only extremists are listening to them now, and they'll never vote for Obama anyway.

(I hesitated about using the word 'ammunition, but let's be honest. It's only a matter of time until some nut case starts shooting or bombing black people or Muslims.)

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I love Obama's response.

I would hope that all this means a resurgence of decency in our political discourse. I would hope that now that it's gone this far, it will finally turn our discourse away from people like Rush, Coulter, Hannity, Malkin - the hatemongers. That our mainstream pundits will finally say about thos people that it's not acceptable any more.

They've spewing hate for years. Enough.

I think the best part of the response is how it links what's wrong with Lewis' comparison to Palin's own comments, putting them both on the same level. Master stroke, picking exactly the right timing and method for actually showing just how ridiculous that claim is.

OT: Philly boos Sarah Palin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd4wQd_gbj8

Hilarious. Philly hates you lady. You're going to get CRUSHED in Philly.

Ever since Senator Obama's brilliant convention speech -- one that even Pat Buchanan praised -- Senator McCain has been on the defensive. Recognizing that he could not longer win by running an honest campaign, he hoped to revive his campaign by gimmickry (e.g., Palin, suspended campaign, etc.) Now that these tactics have failed, he's putting everything into the race card, which also appears to be failing. So what's next?

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It's time for editorials in all newspapers to call mcShame on his incendiary rallies.

liam we really do not give a fuck whut the GOP's think and they don't got no keys to shit also the hannitys and limbaughs gonna wanna bring this shit up about how rev.wright and hon louis farakhan they not runnin for president!!!nuff respect to Rep.John Lewis for speakin tha truth!!!!

Neither do I, but I do care about not letting them off the hook that we had them on for the economy, and having McCain having to suppress the rabble that he roused. We had them sacked, and it is always stupid to jump on the pile after the whistle has blown. You lose fifteen yards.

I care about the Independents who always decide elections. It is now going to get very ugly. Mark my words.

I see your point, and I agree that talking about race is generally not good for Obama but I don't see how this turns the dialogue against Obama. First, I doubt a lot of those independents like what has been happening at McCain's rallies. Second, Obama at least appears to distance himself from the problematic aspects of the statement. While it probably would have been better for Lewis to coordinate with the campaign before speaking, I don't see how this gives the McCain campaign cards that it wants to play.

i see your point but i have to disagree for a couple of reasons. john lewis is exactly the right messenger for this, the previously forming media narrative will break in his direction because any halfway respectable journalist knows lewis' story, they know he has seen firsthand the kind of hatred that most people can only imagine, they know he doesn't say this sort of thing lightly. to many of them if someone like john lewis is fearful of where this is going, then it really is all too real. it also helps that nobody in the obama camp has directly raised this issue, the semi veiled concern has been coming from almost every single direction other than them, obama has merely taken the "if you're gonna say it, say it to my face" stance, one which any average joe can relate to. trying to paint lewis as a radical black politician who sees racism everywhere simply doesn't work, he's far too respected by people both black and white; and if mccain wants riots in the streets, going after john lewis is one of the quickest ways to get there, then he'd really have created a bigger fire than he can handle. people are already losing respect for mccain at a quick rate, he doesn't want to accelerate that process any more than it already has been. the only way for him to "win" off of this would be to drop any pretenses about not making the election about race, he'd have to explicitly refer to obama's race & no journalist is going to support him & palin down the road to a full fledged race war.

The Obama Camp also sent the following with their response posted by Eric above -

Recent Comments on McCain Campaign Rhetoric:

Former Top McCain Strategist John Weaver: "As A Party, We Should Not And Must Not Stand By As The Small Amount Of Haters In Our Society Question Whether He Is As American As The Rest Of Us." "John Weaver, McCain’s former top strategist, said top Republicans have a responsibility to temper this behavior...’We should take that agenda on in a robust manner. As a party we should not and must not stand by as the small amount of haters in our society question whether he is as American as the rest of us. Shame on them and shame on us if we allow this to take hold.’" [Politico.com, 10/10/08]

Former Republican Michigan Governor William Milliken Asked "Who Is John McCain?" And Said "He’s Not The McCain I Endorsed. ... His Campaign Has Become Rather Disappointing To Me." "But, now, who is John McCain? That's what William Milliken, former Republican governor of Michigan and a supporter of McCain in the party primaries this year, is asking about a candidate who, in Milliken's view, appears to have lost his way in this fight for the White House. ‘He is not the McCain I endorsed,’ Milliken, reached at his Traverse City home on Thursday, told the Grand Rapids Press for today's editions. ‘He keeps saying, 'Who is Barack Obama?' I would ask the question, 'Who is John McCain?' because his campaign has become rather disappointing to me.’ ‘I'm disappointed in the tenor and the personal attacks on the part of the McCain campaign, when he ought to be talking about the issues.’" [Chicago Tribune, 10/10/08]

Republican Rep. Ray LaHood Said Palin Should Cool Her Rhetoric Toward Obama. "Republican Rep. Ray LaHood of Illinois said Friday that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin should cool her rhetoric directed at Barack Obama. ‘This doesn't befit the office that she's running for. And frankly, people don't like it,’ LaHood said during an interview on WBBM, a Chicago radio station. Palin has accused Obama of ‘palling around with terrorists’ and of putting ‘political ambitions in front of doing what's right for our troops.’" [Politico, 10/10/08]

WSJ -- "Some McCain Campaign Officials Are Becoming Concerned About The Hostility That Attacks Against Sen. Obama Are Whipping Up Among Republican Supporters." "Top McCain campaign officials are grappling with how far to go with negative attacks on Sen. Barack Obama in the final weeks of what is turning into a come-from-behind effort. Sen. John McCain has allowed a series of increasingly harsh broadsides in new campaign ads and in speeches by his wife, Cindy, and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin. But the Arizona Republican has rejected pleas from some advisers to launch attacks focusing on Sen. Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Some McCain campaign officials are becoming concerned about the hostility that attacks against Sen. Obama are whipping up among Republican supporters. During an internal conference call Thursday, campaign officials discussed how the tenor of the crowds has turned on the media and on Sen. Obama." [Wall Street Journal, 10/10/08]

So wingnuts spouting off about Rep. Lewis without mentioning any on the list Obama sent out obviously have an agenda to push. If they quote Obama's response, it means they got the list of Republican and independent sources commenting in pretty much the same light and tenor as Lewis did.

McCain is trying to make this an issue to bury Troopergate. I would have liked Obama to point out that Lewis doesn't have any role, official or unofficial, in his campaign and furthermore Lewis was one of the "three wisemen" McCain named when asked at the Saddleback forum to name three people who's advice you'd look to as President.

John Sweeney from the AFL-CIO also made a formal statement that berates McCain/Palin for their dangerous vitriol.

If anyone has earned the right to comment on this ugliness, it's John Lewis. McCain and Palin have been frighteningly irresponsible with their rhetoric, and now they're whining. They have no right. The GOP is truly a party of whiners.

And kudos to Obama for his response. Amen.

I'm new here and this my first post! Glad to be aboard.

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Hi - I agree they're whining and I am good with this too.'

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Amen to that. He has earned the right. And if anyone can see today's climate of mcVendetta incendiary language, whipping their supporters into rage against Obama, it is this dignified black man.

Amen to his right to speak the truth.

I don't know what to decide about the Lewis statement yet, but I do like Obama's response. A lot. Perfectly handled. Plus, people will talk about it the next couple of days, inevitably linking it to the mob McScum/Palin have been inciting. That's not a bad thing.

I also wonder -- did he really do this completely on his own? Without consulting with the Obama camp at all?

You bring up a good point about Lewis' statement. I wonder if he was given the go-ahead as a way to put the bile at the McCain/Palin rallies into perspective.

P.S. Let's hear it for the Philly fans tonight ... and this praise is coming from a Rangers/Giants fan.

I sorry, John Lewis is not Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. It would be a very bad mistake for FOX news to try to tar John Lewis as a being a racist radical like they like to tar Sharpton and Jackson and every other AA pol as.

Of all of them, John Lewis has damn well earned to right to call out McCain for what he knows could happen when people are incited to violence. He bears the scars. I know to some his scars aren't the same as McCain's, but he earned them honorably.

BTW, I'd go back and read Obama's statement, Obama did not reject Lewis' statement, just the comparison to Wallace. Besides, I respect Obama for not "repudiating" Lewis's statement. Lewis damn sure deserves more of Obama's respect than McCain wounded ego.

Obama was pitch perfect. This is the second comment from McCain about hardworking Americans who come to his rallies, and it feels like he's trying to insinuate that its okay for these hardworking Americans to be racist, to telegraph that any doubts they have about voting for the BLACK MUSLIM TERRORIST are perfectly natural and okay.

John Lewis is right on the merits but he made a rookie mistake by giving the McCain campaign an out to talk about racism.It's not in the Dems interest to scold McCain on race at this point in time.Lewis shows his lack of political skill,It's the kind of mistake you would envision of a rookie congressman not someone like Lewis who has been at this for many, many yrs.Hence.I am puzzled as to why Lewis would play this card at this time.

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Maybe he was steamed and figured he didn't fight for rights all his life just to keep his mouth shut.

Maybe he's the kind of guy who doesn't make political calculations, but speaks the truth as he sees it.

McCain has praised him in the past as one of the three men he most admires. That gives him not just the right, but the moral responsibility to call him out.

Excuse me, but just who are you to be scolding Lewis for his "lack of political skill," etc. ? What have you accomplished to compare with his own accomplishments?

If you are "puzzled," that's your own deficiency, not his.

I have never been more offended by an idiotic statement on this site.

He's seen this movie before. Probably a wee bit hard to put the requisite distance that he should given his up-close-and-personal experiences.

Juble:
Not a rookie mistake at all. Now if McCain-Palin keep this up the MSM can bring up George Wallace, dangerous crowds and tar McCain with racism. The Republicans were shaming the MSM into running the stories that repeat the words terrorist and Bill Ayers over and over. A MASTERFUL move.

The race stuff is coming regardless. They're just trying to get in front of it. Trust me, Lewis can see more steps ahead politically than you can.

Headline should be "McCain Advisor Compares McCain to George Wallace". I mean that's what they tried to claim Lewis was at one point.

I agree that the best thing would have been if this didn't NEED to be brought up.

But at some point we have to balance good strategy with common sense. There is a demonizing of Obama that needs to be addressed. Did you see the look on McCain's face when the old lady started saying that Obama was an Arab (which, of course, is code for "terrorist")? He was like, wth?

Yes, John. She thinks that because you and yours are hinting that Obama is an America-hating terrorist that he actually IS one.

Do you not see how that works?

King was also called a socialist, a communist, and a hater of America.

Do we have to wait until shots are fired?

And everyone should check out the video of the guy TODAY with the Curious George monkey with an Obama sticker on his head. When he realizes that he's being filmed, he slyly takes off the sticker and gives the monkey to a little boy that he doesn't know. It is creepy. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/11/politics/fromtheroad/entry4515246.shtml

That is bizarre. What a weird guy.

Oh. My. God. I'm sorry, but that jackass looks like a Chester--creepy and cowardly and somebody to watch at all times.

Well put -- wholeheartedly agree.

"Country first" is the new "stand up for america"
George Wallace's slogan was "stand up for alabama" in Gov. race, then it was stand up for america when he ran for president.

Looks to be that McCain/Palin slogan for a large chunck of his support here in GA is "stand up for america"

rememeber: Wallace carried five states in the general election, won forty-six electoral votes, and drew over 9.9 million popular votes

Its good that moderate Republicans have to see what their silence about the conservatives lack of respect, issues, dignity... has brought to their party... its sad, but important...

[and I mean conservatives as in the base of the party... the flat earth evolutuion/global warming is not real types...not the intellectuals... I have my own beef with them]

Gov. Palin admits to using her daughter as a "boo shield"

A carpet was laid down and Palin, dressed in a beige trench, walked on to the ice joined by her daughters Willow and Piper. The GOP Vice-Presidential nominee said at an earlier fundraiser that she would stop some of the booing from the rowdy Philadelphia fans by putting her seven year old daughter, Piper in a Flyers jersey. She said, “How dare they boo Piper!”

Her secret weapon may have worked. The crowd in this staunchly Democratic city –visited today by Barack Obama—gave Palin mixed reviews. There were audible boos over the very loud music and some in the crowd had their thumbs down, but there were also many people clapping and cheering the GOP Vice-Presidential nominee.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/11/palin-drops-puck-at-flyers-game-receives-mixed-reaction/

Using her own kids? Scum.

Damn, do I ever feel sorry for them.

No shame. No shame at all.

She exposed her daughter to an entire crowd booing in surround sound, knowing full well what would happen, and we know she knew because THAT WAS HER REASON FOR BRINGING HER.

Family values my ass.

Of course. McCain hides behind women, Palin hides behind his kids. Their a piece of work, those two, aren't they?

its all good bro.liam its just whateva little tactics GOP's is pullin its backlashing on mccukoo and palin,also they booed tha shit out of sarah palin tonite at tha philly hockey game

Reality Check.

Who was winning the fight, and was way ahead on points. Obama or McCain?

Which one was getting pummeled and having to back peddle in the last day or so. Which one had even some in his own corner saying that he was fighting dirty, and hitting below the belt.

If your guy was winning on all the score cards, and the other guy had his own corner, telling him to stop fighting dirty, then why the hell would you want some guy jumping in the ring to help your guy beat up on the guy that he was already destroying. How would that help.

Senator Obama has issued a statement saying that John Lewis should not have done it.

Get the message people. He is our candidate, and he has run the best campaign that I have seen in the past four decades. So, if he says, that what John Lewis said, did not help him, that is good enought for me.

Never help me when I am way out in front, and I have not ask you to rescue me. Common sense is what matters most in the closing days.

If you're going to call a reality check, you might want to adhere to reality. Nowhere in the Obama response does it say or imply that Lewis "should not have done it." And nowhere does it say that it "did not help him."

Liam:
Disagree. Lewis deserves to say what he did because the MSM (Frank Rich the exception) were too cowardly. We don't need another MLK or Bobby Kennedy. You mean well but you are wrong. This calls out McCain and makes every new campaign stunt with racist overtones fair game for the media to call out

McCain Finally Figures Out How to Defuse His Angry Mobs
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3921

You know what guys, it was already a racial story. We all know it, the MSM and Faux News know it, so let's not try to tiptoe around the issue.

That crazy " he's an Arab" lady at McCain's rally and all the other crazy video of people at McCain's rallies, just gives visual soundbite evidence that the "lynch mob" is feeling what McCain/Palin is trying to convey.

The most amazing thing I've learned from this election is how naive many non-minority, I'll just say it :white people truly were oblivious about how much subtle racism can truly be. As an African American, we were/are always told not to be so overly sensitive. This subtle racism as always been there, it just that now with the arrival of Obama into people's hearts and mind more people are seeing and actually feeling it.

Well, all I can say is "Welcome To Our World..."

I'm so disturbed that someone in my state (Minnesota) actually thinks Obama is an "Arab".

There's a photo of this woman and McCain in our paper today which lists her name and I was wondering if anyone here in the Twin Cities was planning on writing/phoning her to gently inform her of her ignorance. I'm sure it would backfire, though. Something gentle like:

Excuse me M'am....I thought that you would like to know the facts so that you would no longer be an embarrassment to yourself... Sincerely, a neighbor who cares

It is just proof that these people are getting ALL of their news from Fox, Hannity, Rush, and O'Reilly. I think this is a serious trend that goes far beyond this presidential election.

According to Josh, http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/223708.php, this lady got her information from a pamphlet, when she was volunteering for McCain campaign - from another volunteer. Pretty rich, huh?

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But at some point we have to balance good strategy with common sense.

Well said.

husseintenax iam 1 of your big fans LOL!!!!

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- I have no idea why! But thank you.

LOL!

HusseinTenaX -- Me too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAUtZnwQUvI


Look at that vid and I DARE YOU to tell me McCain isn't putting fuel to the fire. Go to 3:07 and see when the woman says "traitor!" McCain STICKS HIS THUMB UP AND SMILES.

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This will make it more difficult to play the Wright card, which was coming to the top of the deck.

I've always wondered, what happens if Obama wins? Does that mean god votes for Obama?

John Lewis is 100% right and totally appropriate. We don't need to apologize for calling out this dangerous racial rhetoric. The MSM were too cowardly but not the Democrats nor the swing voters who have been turned off by this.

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What a dummy Lewis is. This is precisely the kind of response the Republicans were hoping for. Now all we need is a statement from Al Sharpton.

I can't believe how freakin' stupid Democrats can be sometimes.

Not only does McCain get it. There is proof. And Obama was nowhere to be found. No surprise.

http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=letter050506ceg0.jpg

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What a load of crap. If they really gave a shit, they would have written legislation and introduced a bill.

This is typical Republican garbage. Much sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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There's an interesting bit of jujitsu contained in McCain's statement:

I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I've always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track.

The black man is attacking the character of McCain's hardworking (white) supporters. How DARE the black man insult hardworking (white) Americans in this way?

Yeah, that "jujitsu" about hardworking Americans worked really well with the "fundamentals" nonsense, too. The hate from McCain and Palin rallies has been all over the news. Voters have seen what was going on. And the ones that matter probably aren't going to ID with the wingnuts at those rallies.

Hillary pulled similar divisiveness through appeal to "hardworking whites" in the primaries. But she was doing it almost solely for the benefit of Kentucky and West Virginia. McCain has 50 states and a bigger credibility problem to worry about.

From one of the smartest black politicians in America:

Make no mistake about it - even with the economy in the dumps and the Democrats on the rise, this presidential race is still close.

And it will remain close until Nov. 4.

It won't be a blowout for Barack Obama, as some are predicting from the polls.

The truth is, this year you're never going to get a true reading from polls - because this year, race is in play.

All polls have something they call a "margin of error," which means the numbers you see could be off by five points either way.

Well, in this election, you have to add in another five points because Obama is black.

People won't tell a telephone pollster that they won't vote for the black guy - but with a few people, that's just the way it is.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/11/BA7L13EUS5.DTL

Oh, bullshit. Willie Brown has been wrong about damn near everything he's commented on for the last two years. He's the MSM's goto guy when they want to write another story about "The Bradley Effect" and all those old stick in the mud pollsters and academecians tell them that there is no evidence to support their thesis.

If the shoe fits wear it. I find it very offensive that you would equate Lewis with Sharpton. Most of the time I strongly agree with & applaud your posts but you are showing your historical ignorance here.

I don't see why Obama should repudiate anything. McCain is the one who lied and said he consulted all the time with Lewis, when he never even spoke to him. He got caught pandering with that statement, and now he's caught trying to incite a race issue. I'll bet the phone lines were sizzling to the McCain camp, what with all the repub candidates likely to lose their races.

Sorry, this was meant in response to the comment "What a dummy Lewis is... I can't believe how friggin' stupid Democrats can be sometimes."

I am surprised to find myself disagreeing with many who think what Lewis did was stupid or wrong but I really don't feel that Senator Obama needed to say anthing about Rep. Lewis' statements. I think that Lewis soundly reprimanded McCain and warned him about who he could become if he continues on the path he was on and that innocent people could end up getting hurt.

I really don't care that McCain was outraged. Tough!! I was outraged for days!!!

I am glad that McCain started expressing a boundary yesterday but that was four days after a man yelled 'kill him' at Palin's rally. So I find Rep. Lewis' comments appropriate especially since he is someone McCain said he would be likely to consult as president. I hope that this will make McCain and Palin insist on a civil tone at their rallies.

Bullshit. I find Lewis' comparisons measured and correct. I agree with Synchronicity in thinking Lewis should somehow be rebuked for standing up to hateful speech and violence inducing atmospheres is wrong. Why are Democrats always worrying about "escalating" things? That's how they always get walked on, because they usually never stand up against overbearing right-wingers. Obama's remarks were likewise sound, even if he had to dissociate himself from the more extreme aspects for political reasons. The message still came across: the tone McCain and his campaign have been setting at their events and the fear and hate they've been inciting are inappropriate, dangerous and must be stopped. I'll give McCain credit for trying to reign things in (even if done for practical reasons, a.k.a. the attacks aren't really working, and not moral or common-sense reasons), but he still deserves to be slapped for inciting such behavior in the first place.

Bollocks to "increasing tension". Call it like you see it.

Oh, and McCain's "who, me?", "peaceful gathering" response deserves its own rebuke. Shame on McCain for even TRYING to act like nothing dangerous and troubling was going on at his rallies. I saw the tape where the guy yelled "terrorist", and McCain heard it all right -- he even seemed visually disturbed, but his lips remained sealed until he moved on to his next talking point.

I can't say whether Lewis's statement helps or not. But I know for sure it is released only with agreement from Team Obama. Lewis is a measured, talented politician and has been in politics for decades. To think that he would simply release such potentially game changing statement without Team Obama having a reason for it sounds incredible to me.

So then the question becomes why would Team Obama want this? How is this going to help them?

This statement from Lewis compares McCain to Wallace and in doing so diminishes McCain's stature and alienates those independents who don't want to be associated with Wallace/McCain.

It is an answer to the Ayers association. That is, now McCain is associated with Wallace.

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It could be several things, or a combination thereof:

1) If the Ayers card isn't working sufficiently, then surely McCain will deal the Wright card next. Lewises statement might make that look overtly racist (which it would certainly be).

2) It's possible that the constant negative attacks may be beginning to show up in the Obama campaign's polling. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some downticks in Obama's numbers in the coming days.

3) The attacks have consumed the media narrative for a week now. Perhaps this will help bring that to a climax so we can all move on.

4) McCain deserves all the humiliation that can be heaped on him, and Team Obama had too much respect for Lewis's warranted concern to try to silence him.

At any rate, I don't see how Lewis's comments can hurt. Some have claimed that they open the race argument, but I suspect it was coming anyway in a form that would have bbeen much more insidious than an open conversation/debate.

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Thank you Official A.

I am more and more glad that Obama has purchased air time for the week before the election. Heaven knows we will need his calming words to the nation at that point.

I truly begin to wonder how much mcShame's incendiary campaign has contributed to the instability of financial markets. How much more fearful must world-wide investors be to see such an unhinged repub ticket and to consider the utter lunacy of any potential that two such unfit individuals could reach world power?

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Well, it certainly hasn't helped. Wouldn't it be interesting to know how the financial markets in Italy behaved when the brownshirts were marching on Rome, and in Germany when the Beer Hall Putsch occurred. Different times, I suppose, but when emotion trumps reason, it certainly becomes harder for the markets to operate on fundamentals.

it occurs to me that there is a staggering irony here.

mccain/palin, in using their bullshit ayers commercials, in suggesting that obama is "palling around with terrorists," in not correcting all of the hateful, mob-like sentiments at their rallies, are actually engaging in terrorism.

Diane McWhorter, who won the Pulitzer-Prize several years ago for her history of Birmingham's [Alabama] civil rights movement, wrote a letter appearing on the Op Ed page of the NYT on October 8th. In this letter, she cautioned Governor Palin about "overexciting the old base of George Wallace's 1968 run for President . . . " It is an excellent letter and I urge those interested to read it.

Hard to believe, but the Washington Post has a big article claiming that the two campaigns are equally racist:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/11/AR2008101102216.html?hpid=topnews

The problem with this article is in the following: "With respect to this issue Lewis yesterday used a racial frame to leverage one of the harshest cases against McCain this year."

This is nonsense, what is a racial frame? It may be a misnomer to state that both campaigns are equally racist,however this may be defined. Although Lewis is correct, his remarks were overboard and allowed McCain room to evade some of the numerous pitfalls he confronts. Much time is spent to suggest that Obama and team have avoided issues of race. The flip side was never reached: What time should Obama have spent on race related issue, regardless how defined? As best can be determined Obama is running for the President of the USA.

Perhaps, if the question asked why the vitriolic acts of McCain's supporters? Would a Wallace frame be better choice?

All of this is nonsense. Am not a big fan of Lewis but McCain and Co. made fools of themselves on this one. People who where aware of Wallace understand the relationships Lewis was establishing. Obama swoops in and leaves cleanly, voters post age 55 have more reasons to look away from Palin and McCain and turn toward Obama. I believe that polls are now showing Obama now has a majority of folks age 65 and over. Race American style cuts many ways!!!!!!!!!!

The problem with the comparison to Wallace is that it is an insult to Wallace. Wallace at least was honest and willing to admit it. Mccain is a snivelling coward who throws the incendiary and then goes and hides, denying the whole thing. Aty this point, can we try his mother for treason for not smothering him at birth, and thus inflicting him upon the US - seems like an open and shut case of domestic terrorism to me.

The late Dr. Gary Chase, nationally renowned medical researcher, having co-authored well over 100 case studies for the betterment of human kind both physical and emotional conditions provided the answer to combating hate. He told me the cure when I lamented to him over the sorrow and waste hate has caused history. I said, Gary with all your vast experience, education and insight, how do you reverse hate once it is sown into the thoughts of people? Dr. Chase smiled, and said without hesitation, "Put a microphone in their hand and turn up the volume."

McCain knows this secert too. He grabbed back the microphone from the 75 year old woman supporter at his rally. She had just told him, "Obama is an Arab," McCain pulled it back from her as fast as he could, saying, "No he's not, he's a decent family man, citizen who I have fundamental differences with and that's what this campaign is all about."

But later after the rally was over this same McCain supporter spoke openly. She said she was given a three page letter by a fellow campaign worker at their local McCain Campaign office. The letter she said told the true story about Obama, and it made her and all her friends afraid for America. She said she personally has sent out 400 copies of the letter randomly to people listed in her local phone book.

The womwn said she believed McCain brushed her off and took the microphone away because he didn't want to say publicly all those bad things about Obama that were written in the letter. But when at the actual rally, she saw how McCain's memory seemed to lack the letter's details, she became determined to get that microphone and help McCain get his own straight talk correct for the benefit of the uninformed rally's crowd.

The white haired 75 year old lady reminded me of the fast food restaurant 1970s TV commercial where the little old lady demands from the counter attendant, in this case McCain, "Where's the beef?"

Indeed, let's all demand that answer from McCain. We need to know of the existence of hate letters, their sources, methods of distributions, who is paying for such efforts and their connections to any political figure. All should be made public ASAP. Now is the correct time to turn the volume up loud and clear and not later.

On behalf of a grateful nation, thank you Dr. Gary Chase for your wisdom.

Voting has already started in many places, and with every passing day the pool of people who may be swayed by *anything* that's occurring is shrinking. Urge everyone you know to VOTE EARLY.

I agree with Brooklyn Bill. This is all just the last permutation of something that began a long time ago in right wing, email hate factories. Is there any way to find out where all the pass-around wingnut emails originate, and has anyone ever tried?

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I found this article at Daily Kos, regarding canvassing in Prince William County, VA. Frederick is the VA GOP chair.

With so much at stake, and time running short, Frederick did not feel he had the luxury of subtlety. He climbed atop a folding chair to give 30 campaign volunteers who were about to go canvassing door to door their talking points — for instance, the connection between Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden: "Both have friends that bombed the Pentagon," he said. "That is scary." It is also not exactly true — though that distorted reference to Obama's controversial association with William Ayers, a former 60s radical, was enough to get the volunteers stoked. "And he won't salute the flag," one woman added, repeating another myth about Obama. She was quickly topped by a man who called out, "We don't even know where Senator Obama was really born." Actually, we do; it's Hawaii.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1849422,00.html

Somebody had to say it. And FUCKING TOM BROKAW had the nerve to read John Lewis's statement like he was reading shit on toilet paper then read McCain's response with a lot of offended bluster. Can I just say that if I see Tom Brokaw on the street (and I do live in NYC), I am going to call him a bunch of racial epithets and maybe a terrorist and say I'm going to "Kill him" and see if he thinks that's not lynch mob mentality then. Good times. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

my god when are democrats ever gonna develop enough balls to call BS when they see it? liam are you kidding me? a race war will not help obama, but mccain and company have gone over the deep end...this is no longer fun and games....someone is going to get hurt....j lewis was 100% correct and obama's response was just brilliant.....what saddens me is the fact that MSM is pretty much mum on the implication of these incendiary comments coming from the mccain/palin camp....i just dont get it from some of you so-called obama supporters! it is not ok to create an environment that encourages hatred and violence...an assassination is not what we need! mccain and palin knew exactly what they were doing...it just so happened to backfire on them, so now mccain is being all mavericky and backpeddeling....HRC did the same thing...she flirted with the bigots not bc she is racist, but b/c she needed their vote...mccain's campaign reminds me of HRC's campaign, only more erractic and more hateful towards the end.....

we are always so concerned about what the other side will say....well, i have news for you buddy, the talkings points will never be favorable so long as the other side is controling the rhetoric!!! be a man or woman and speak up for what you believe....it helps no one if we end up with a dead obama! now that mccain/palin has been called out on it, hopefully their supporters tone it down a bit before someone gets hurt!!!! being constantly wimpy and running with our tails tucked behind us is exactly the reason why we ended up with bush not once but twice!!!

oh and something else--why is it we never think it is appropriate to call out a white person on his/her racism, even when it's blatant???? mccain and palin are racist towards arabs/muslims and we never challenge them on that score!!! and i take offense to mcccain's asking obama to repudiate lewis' comments...obama is a not '"boy" taking commands from his "massah"! secondly, obama supporters are hard-working americans too....the racist and the bigots are not the only ones hard at work!!!

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Speaking of dear little Piper Palin and her mom using her as a shield from getting booed - check out this pic of dear sweet Piper (like mother like daughter?)

http://i35.tinypic.com/2czc1ua.jpg

Freaking Hysterical

Funny picture.

Didn't Sen. McCain tell the assembled multitudes at Saddleback that he would seek advice from Rep. John Lewis? Maybe Mr. Lewis thought his views were welcome?

Eric, the headline is entirely misleading. That's not what Lewis said.


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Well, I wrote the idiot Jeff Frederick today. He's the one who instructed his Virginia canvassers that Obama was like Osama because both had friends who bombed the Pentago. Here is his stupid fucking reply:

"Thank you for your message.

I appreciate your concern for comments where I recently quoted radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh
(http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100808/content/01125108.guest.html).

I'm outraged too -- that in America today, we have a major party nominee for president of the United States who has an association with a known
terrorist.

These are the facts; don't shoot the messenger for delivering them.

True or false: Osama bin Laden has friends who bombed the Pentagon? True.

True or false: Barak Obama has a friend who bombed the Pentagon? True.

You don't agree? Check the facts:

The friend of Obama's we are referring to is Bill Ayers. It is a known fact that "Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972..." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers). The New York Times has even confirmed this.

The other day, CNN gave us a partial glimpse into Obama's past association with Ayers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ). Ayers to this day refuses to apologize for or renounce the domestic terrorism he engaged in
when attempting to blow up the Pentagon and overthrow the U.S. government.

It is also well-known that Obama launched his political career at Ayers' house in the upper-class Hyde Park neighborhood in Chicago (also see end of CNN clip above).

There is far more information out there regarding Obama's friendship with Mr. Ayers if you chose to read about it.

Again, these are the facts. If you don't like them, then don't vote for Obama. I don't like them either. They are scary, but unfortunately true.

-JMF."

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Failed to mention that Frederick is the chairman of the Virginia GOP. I also wrote McCain to ask if he condones this.

And after his own experiences--many of them violent--this sudden gasoline-pour-on-the-flames of this noxious pair likely has him concerned.
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Actually, I think Lewis is the gasoline spiller. He could have stayed out of it. Obama was doing FINE without his "help."

I can't help but think that some people are going to see Lewis as some sort of Sharpton character and it will cost Obama.

I wish he'd shut up.

As much as it might be true, this is not a helpful intervention in the last weeks of this campaign. Obama counterpunched very well, but Lewis opened up his side for a big shot. Say you're a McCain supporter who does think the rhetoric's getting extreme. A comment like Lewis's, inviting McCain supporters to despise themselves as racists, tends to solidify what is a disintegrating campaign.

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John, there are two parts to wisdom.
Knowing what to say and knowing when not to say it!

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John Lewis always thinks before he speaks, and I'm sure he thought hard about the lessons learned from America's encounter with George Wallace.

Wallace was not dyed in the wool segregationist. He was actually endorsed by NAACP in an early race. But he got trounced and decided on appeal to bigotry and fear as a sure vote getter. Sound familiar?

And when you try to manipulate the worst parts of human nature, you have to know you can't control it. Wallace bears some responsibility for the church bombings and countless other crimes that fed off the violent impulses he stirred up.

Lewis only hinted at the horror in the dark: A few respond to the rhetoric of violence by lashing out in twisted, unexpected ways. So it was that an emotionally unstable Arthur Bremer pinned on Wallace buttons and attended several Wallace presidential campaign events. In Maryland, he stepped forward and shot the governor four times, ending Wallace's career, and nearly his life.

It takes little imagination to see that Lewis is right: this fire could consume us all.

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