Pro-War WaPo Editorial Page Endorses Obama
Pro-war Washington Post edit page editor Fred Hiatt throws in the towel and endorses Barack Obama for President. One key bit:
There are few public figures we have respected more over the years than Sen. John McCain. Yet it is without ambivalence that we endorse Sen. Barack Obama for president.The choice is made easy in part by Mr. McCain's disappointing campaign, above all his irresponsible selection of a running mate who is not ready to be president...
The stress of a campaign can reveal some essential truths, and the picture of Mr. McCain that emerged this year is far from reassuring. To pass his party's tax-cut litmus test, he jettisoned his commitment to balanced budgets. He hasn't come up with a coherent agenda, and at times he has seemed rash and impulsive. And we find no way to square his professed passion for America's national security with his choice of a running mate who, no matter what her other strengths, is not prepared to be commander in chief.
This is a bit of a seminal moment, a signal that McCain's enormous goodwill among a certain class of Beltway insiders has been sapped -- irrevocably, perhaps -- by his sleazy campaign and his choice of Palin.
Not even McCain's embrace of Hiatt's position -- and Obama's opposition to it -- on perhaps the most important foreign policy question of the moment could prevent Hiatt from slipping away.















That's great, but WaPo has been pretty pro-Obama for most of this election cycle.
Now if the WSJ were to endorse Obama...
October 17, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed on the WSJ. However, I don't know about WaPo being that pro-Obama though. Their editorial board has been forced to call out McCain because of the ridiculousness of his actions views and the rash and erratic decision making that has been customary. I think Obama fought an uphill battle with them... helped. A lot of tire-swinging has come from the WaPo (Ruth Marcus, Krauthammer, etc). Obama has taken heat from the Post in the past. I may be wrong on their slant (or lack thereof).
Q
October 17, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe if Hillary sweetalks Murdoch a little bit. . .
O/T, but Steve Benen's got a hilarious piece over on Washington Monthly about right wingnuts getting their panties in a wad about Obama creating his own flag. Only it's the Ohio state flag.
October 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
WaPo didn't begin to give Obama a bit of credit until it was clear that McCain was not going to catch him. I would say that the tide turned with them right around the conventions. And I suspect that it wasn't the conventions so much, as it was McCain's pick of Palin that soured them.
October 17, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the Palin pick was it. Seems like a lot of the media realized they had been duped with that pick.
October 17, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Helleluja. Finally folks are saying what I *know* they are thinking; the Palin pick is an unmitigated disaster for everyone but the most backward and the McCain is not fit to lead.
October 17, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd say that David Brooks implicitly endorsed Obama this morning, as well.
Which isn't all that surprising, but Hiatt? The ultimate tire-swinger? This has gotta burn for him.
October 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
What did Brooks say?
October 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the Brooks article.
Worth reading and sending around.
October 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
David Brooks:
yeah, that David Brooks.
October 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
His whole family is apparently for Obama. He had to come around... Or sleep on the couch?
October 17, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought the Brooks article was incredibly lame. Yeah, he said some nice things about Obama. But it was pretty surface level and wish-washy. We shouldn't swoon just because Brooks is able to admit the obvious: Obama is cool under pressure.
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October 17, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
If that column had been written by, say, Bob Herbert, I'd call it lame. But Brooks? I'd consder it pretty high praise.
October 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought it was pretty good, considering the source. Faint praise at the end tho . . .
October 17, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, we all take it as a given, but the thing is being "cool under pressure" is the selling point for Obama to conservatives. They can not bring themselves to support Obama based on policy positions. But to say that these are tough times and we need a clear headed leader at the helm allows them to cross the Obama threshold without having to defend or endorse specific policies.
If Powell comes out for Obama, I think you will hear an argument very much along these lines.
October 17, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Nice column by Brooks. Even if he did have to qualify it at the end with the idea that Obama could be an "anti-climatic" president.
Brooks had what I thought was one of the best lines of the season after the debate on Wednesday when he described Obama as a "redwood forrest". McCain keeps throwing bombs at it, but in the end the forrest is still standing and unaffected. Brooks is clearly impressed with Obama's temperament.
October 17, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know why people refer to Brooks as a Conservative that Liberals can love. I think the dude's a hack.
October 17, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
brooks the columnist seems to write about five hack columns for every one intellectually honest/insightful column.
brooks the tv/radio pundit is similarly about five parts hack to one part honest intellectual.
October 17, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
And when he says something honest, it just pisses me off, because I know that the bulk of what he does for a living is a big, fat lie, for money.
October 17, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now I ask you, with all of the critical praise, why on earth did he have to end that piece with those last 3 paragraphs.
October 17, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow.
I figured Hiatt would equivocate this all the way to Nov. 5th.
Wow.
October 17, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I read this last night.
I guess I'm just glad that McLame showed the true McLame finally and that the MSM got the message - and it probably wouldn't have if not for Sarah Palin.
Worst political mistake of all time, IMO.
October 17, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Worst political mistake of all time
You betcha!
October 17, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
... she's been bad for the ticket and yet maybe this is about as well as he might have done?
Seems to me there was a certain inevitable downward trajectory of McCain's plane excuse me I mean campaign -- it was going down in flames anyway. Which of his "better" choices would have made any difference? Lieberman? Pawlenty? Mittens? Crist? Jindal?
The problem has been the pilot's fitness for duty, not the stewardess's failure to serve the in-flight meal.
Now, Obama snbbing Hillary: that was a disaster .... NOT!
October 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Best part is that the extreme rightwing of the GOP will follow Klondike Barbie to the Freeper Promised Land, which will begin with a 40-year wander in the political wilderness.
But let's not spike the ball on the 5-yard line. As Barack warns, Democrats have a knack for screwing it up.
I'm seeing Wile E. Coyote with a brand spanking new supersonic Acme jetpack on his back ...
October 17, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, same thought. Perhaps Palin was a curse on the ticket, but a blessing in disguise for the GOP. By energizing and becoming a point around which the very worst of this Party coalesces, she has effectively highlighted much of what has gone very wrong with this Party. The fringe, lunatic elements are dragging the GOP down and the pandering to them has to stop.
But, that's not the whole story to what's ailing the GOP, is it? The Neocon cancer has to be discussed, as well, in the aftermath of what may be a terrible GOP loss on November 4. Think they'll want to talk about that?
October 17, 2008 2:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said.
October 17, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is another shoe about to drop? Colin Powell will be on Meet the Press Sunday. Some McCain advisers expect him to endorse Obama, according to Mike Allen.
http://www.politico.com/playbook/1008/playbook465.html
October 17, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't consider that an entire shoe - at most it's one heel.
October 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
Yep, Powell = heel.
October 17, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
The thing is, I'm not sure about how persuasive the endorsement will be. People who weren't voting for Obama will say, "Well of course he's voting for Obama - he's black!" Oddly enough, Powell endorsing the Republican nominee feels the more unusual situation. That's just my take on it, though. I imagine the media would make a pretty big deal over the endorsement.
October 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do people really care what Powell has to say? I don't see his opinion as relevant either way.
People I know often discount what anyone who's been in the current administration as suspect. And Powell most of all. He's like the once good hero who fell. In Shakespeare, this is the person who dies, possibly while redeeming himself somewhat. In real life, his continued presence is just uncomfortable.
October 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't stand him and I can't believe he's still this overrated among liberals.
I really cannot believe the shine hasn't come off him yet for some people. It totally boggles what is left of my mind. He's awful.
October 17, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not going to argue about your dislike for Powell, but if this rumor is true we should all be hoping that Powell has a lot of shine left.
October 17, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
i think you continue to confuse recognizing his popularity with agreeing with his popularity.
we should all be capable of recognizing powell's stature as a fact (and a potentially useful fact at that), while still thinking him a turd.
October 17, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will be big (if it actually happens - I'm not convinced). I know there's not a lot of love for Powell on the left, but Powell is still highly regarded and trusted by many Republicans and Independents.
Obama will not win over the neocons, but I think he's still got a shot at old school conservatives (see Buckley). Powell I think can deliver them better than anyone short of George H.W. Bush.
Powell's endorsement would go a very long way toward convincing worried Republicans that it is OK to vote for Obama.
All that said... I'm not convinced it will happen.
October 17, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is my thinking on the subject. Whether or not liberals like him, the fact remains that he's pretty big among people who might not already be voting for Obama.
October 17, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
And, he's been separated from the Bush Administration for years at this point, so even that will sting less.
October 17, 2008 12:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I'm hardly arguing Powell's merits. But his endorsement would generate more buzz and carry more weight among undecideds and not-so-sures than the Washington Post's.
October 17, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. His endorsement does nothing for me personally, but politically, it's significant. There are people who still really respect him and will take him at his word.
And his endorsement, if it comes, would also be significant because he served in the previous administration, and it would be a nice little "screw you" to them.
Of course, a better "screw you" gesture would have been refusing to perform that mendacious song and dance before the UN to give cover to the Iraq War.
October 17, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
The point about Powell is that those of us of a certain age who remeber watching the first Gulf War (before the internets)on CNN remember Powell as a safe strong military commander under Stormin |Norman.
An endorsement form Powell would be a major blow to Mc Cain's arguments that Obama is not fit to be a C.in C., and particularly effective amongst those in the undecided who rate security higher then the average.
Heh if we can forgive Ayers for his transgressions, maybe we should cut Colin some slack too. I am sure he regrets his actions in 2002 as much as we do.
October 17, 2008 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. I'm among the disillusioned w/Powell crowd myself. But, like it or not, the man holds sway with the swing voter types and his endorsement of Obama would make a difference. I'd be happy to see it.
October 17, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin has taken down the ship with some help from McCain, of course. You just can't dodge the incredibly poor choice that McCain made by picking Palin. If you admit you screwed up, then you look pretty damned silly. If you constantly make statements to the public about your fellings of "assurance" that Palin is qualified, then you look even more idiotic. Sorry John, this gamble cost you the election and you know it.
October 17, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I don't want anyone to forget that ultimately it was his gamble and his decision.
McLame is responsible for this debacle.
October 17, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
If anyone tries to make an argument that it wasn't his decision, all they are really saying is that McCain is a powerless tool of the party. Neither is good.
October 17, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's funny about all this was Rick Davis criticizing Kristol for his stating that McCain's campaign should all be fired. I think Rick is seeing the last of his career as a campaign stategist.
Good riddance to bad trash.
As for Powell endorsing Obama, I couldn't care less. If anyone should have "blinked" it should have been Powell when handed the task of going before the U.N. and laying out the "facts" behind the Iraq was justification. His stellar image is permanently tarnished in my view.
PEACE
October 17, 2008 11:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
There were hundreds of times in the last 8 years Powell could have been a stand up guy but to this day he refuses.
He is an awful person. AWFUL. He was in on the torture talks. Don't tell me he opposed it - he didn't do one fucking thing to stop it, including telling the truth about what was going on - which makes him a WAR CRIMINAL.
October 17, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the truth. He had the opportunity to speak prior to invading Iraq, and he didn't. Classic stick your head in the sand and be loyal to your party.
October 17, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Colin Powell has built his entire career on being a useful idiot for Republicans.
October 17, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well put.
October 17, 2008 12:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, agreed! But, that useful idiot may just turn out to be useful for Obama.
October 17, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
noses & faces.
October 17, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are already beginning to see what a train wreck Palin is. The Upside is as she is vetted more thoroughly she may may be washed up when we send her back to Alaska. Her career may be over.
October 17, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, her career is most certainly over. If the Republicans can't steal this election, she'll go back to Alaska to face the firing squad. Her political career is gone, thank goodness!
October 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I imagine a talk show hosting gig in her future.
October 17, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
We are already beginning to see what a train wreck Palin is. The Upside is as she is vetted more thoroughly she may may be washed up when we send her back to Alaska. Her career may be over.
October 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't anyone worry about Lil Johnny Mac's feeling getting hurt by this. His good buddy G. Gordon Liddy has his back. The G Man hates the Post(as if we didn't know why)and prefers a newspaper with more journalistic integrity: The Washington (Moonie)Times. So this will be brushed off as no big deal.
Although, for the rest of us, it's quite a big deal.
October 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, the Republicans have forced me to change my handle again. Enjoy....
October 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
How now, WaPo?
October 17, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
When will see Fox News endorse Obama? Hannity for Obama? Perhaps O'Reilly? You know, they are "Fair and Balanced." I think that is the most idiotic slogan that Fox could come up with. I would think that "Dirty Laundry" playing as their "theme song" would be much more suited.
I love to watch Hannity squirm. I'd like to sneak an Obama bumper sticker on his car, but that would certainly hurt Obama.
October 17, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
When will see Fox News endorse Obama? Hannity for Obama? Perhaps O'Reilly? You know, they are "Fair and Balanced." I think that is the most idiotic slogan that Fox could come up with. I would think that "Dirty Laundry" playing as their "theme song" would be much more suited.
I love to watch Hannity squirm. I'd like to sneak an Obama bumper sticker on his car, but that would certainly hurt Obama.
October 17, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here is another "signal that McCain's enormous goodwill among a certain class of Beltway insiders has been sapped -- irrevocably, perhaps -- by his sleazy campaign and his choice of Palin."
Peggy Noonan penned an article in this morning's Wall Street Journal, titled "Palin's Failin'" at:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122419210832542317.html
October 17, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Weeks ago Noonan exclaimed (on a presumably dead mic.), "it's over." She was right then and continues to be.
October 17, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nooners has been whirling like a weathervane throughout this campaign.
She's nuttier than a fruitcake.
October 17, 2008 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Couldn't agree more.
October 17, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, but even the nuttiest of fruitcake can see the writing on the wall. Smoke will be pouring out of poor John's ears after today. Let's have another debate!
October 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good grief, this doesn't sound like the thoughts of a convervative on the pages of the Wall Street Journal. It sounds like something we post here at TPM. Do you think she lurks here?
October 17, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
noonan has done her duty hacking for her party but she's been seething inside over mccain/palin.
October 17, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think McCain's problem is he only sees Republicans. Watching him defend Palin and his outrageous supporters on Letterman last night it's clear he thinks or hopes that everybody buys into that nonsense. I suppose he really can't say anything else or his poll numbers would drop out of sight but my guess is he's sequestered in his campaign bubble and the bad news doesn't filter up to him much from his staff. He can only read it in their faces and that's bad enough.
October 17, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
yeah, i think mccain is fundamentally disconnected from american voters. he's used to running for easy reelection in red enough arizona and giving tire swing rides to the national press. he doesn't understand (certainly not like bush did) that if you are running as a republican for president you have to full court pander (LIE) to the middle class and dem-leaning independents if you want to win.
republicans are in the electoral (as well as electoral college) minority in this country. the majority of americans agree with democrats, not republicans on the bulk of public policy. republicans have to deliberately confuse and disinform voters on the policies that matter most to them if they want to win. mccain's done a bang-up job confusing the voters about what his policies would be but he hasn't adequately disinformed them about those policies. he's only left them confused.
October 17, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck Fred Hiatt and fuck the WaPo. I would have to live many more lifetimes for them to make up for their war-mongering ways. I honestly hope they burn in hell.
Few things get me as upset as Fred Hiatt.
Fuck him.
October 17, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cue the wingnuts to start claiming that the WaPo was always in the tank for Obama.
Nevermind that it is a rightie editorial board at heart on most issues, and endorsed McCain in the primaries.
October 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cue the wingnuts to start claiming that the WaPo was always in the tank for Obama.
Nevermind that it is a rightie editorial board at heart on most issues, and endorsed McCain in the primaries.
October 17, 2008 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe they can feed Palin a new line of gibberish and have her ask "why, also, does the Washington Post hate America?" With minor modifications, she could put it to real good use as more and more newspapers declare their presidential recommendation.
October 17, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
All so nice, except that this little change in the US's political ambience leaves several devestated countries in its wake. And millions, literally, of bodies. It's more than just a change in the regulations. And the money, where has it all gone.
Obama's administration must start with an accounting. Otherwise, they will try to dump the blame on him. And he won't get a thing done 'til his third term!
October 17, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's my favorite line from the editorial:
(emphasis mine)Amen.
October 17, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Et tu, Fred?
October 17, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I say fuck Colin Powell!! once a day and twice on Sundays.
He is a man that has lost all integrity, dignity and honor in the service of the GWB & DC whitehouse.
He, as a four star general knew that we did not go into Iraq with enough troops and yet said nothing.
Then his UN presentation fiasco was another monstrous blunder. He has no spine. His recommendations are worthless!! His latest glowing pronouncement of admiration of Senator Stevens is another nail in his character legacy coffin.
Nuf' said.
October 17, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Assuming that we can 'agree to disagree' on Powell (some of us, including me, still have respect for him), his endorsement would be good for Obama and possibly excellent, depending on how he explains it. I can't think of anyone better than Colin Powell to explain, politely but tellingly, what a disasterous decision it was to select Sarah Palin and why for that reason alone, he could not possibly endorse McCain.
(And if he endorses McCain despite the fact of Palin, I'll join in every nasty thing the rest of you want to say!)
October 17, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I despise Fred Hiatt so much, I don't want him anywhere near me. I wish he had just endorsed McCain. Who listens to Fred Hiatt anyway? He's ignorant on politics, no matter how much he may know about, say, barbecuing.
Brooks is worse, because he indulges in a pose of evenhandedness & objectivity, while being a straight-up wingnut.
October 17, 2008 5:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
LA Times Endorses Obama
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-endorse19-2008oct19,0,5198206.story
. . . We need a leader who demonstrates thoughtful calm and grace under pressure, one not prone to volatile gesture or capricious pronouncement. We need a leader well-grounded in the intellectual and legal foundations of American freedom. Yet we ask that the same person also possess the spark and passion to inspire the best within us: creativity, generosity and a fierce defense of justice and liberty.
The Times without hesitation endorses Barack Obama for president.
. . . But as the presidential race draws to its conclusion, it is Obama's character and temperament that come to the fore. It is his steadiness. His maturity.
These are qualities American leadership has sorely lacked for close to a decade. . .
Indeed, the presidential campaign has rendered McCain nearly unrecognizable. His selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate was, as a short-term political tactic, brilliant. It was also irresponsible, as Palin is the most unqualified vice presidential nominee of a major party in living memory. The decision calls into question just what kind of thinking -- if that's the appropriate word -- would drive the White House in a McCain presidency. Fortunately, the public has shown more discernment, and the early enthusiasm for Palin has given way to national ridicule of her candidacy and McCain's judgment.
(There's more, but I think I'll let you all relish in that last paragraph for a while)
October 17, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink