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Poll: Palin Is Now The Top Concern Voters Have About McCain
AmericaBlog flags a stunning finding in the new NBC/Wall St. Journal poll:
Now, Palin's qualifications to be president rank as voters' top concern about McCain's candidacy -- ahead of continuing President Bush's policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq.
Respondents were read a list of things and were asked to pick the two that most concern them about McCain. Thirty-four percent named Palin, versus only 23% for the runner-up, which was that it seems likely he'd continue Bush's policies.
That would seem to suggest that Palin may have become a greater liability for McCain than Bush.
Separately, the poll's toplines show Obama with an expanded lead of 10 points over McCain among registered voters, 52%-42%.
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Boy, I sure hope the guys and gals at NRO are right that she's the future of the party. I can live with that!
October 21, 2008 7:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
In Cretaceous news, enormous carnivores at top of Dinosaur food chain.
October 21, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, but are whacky evangelical hockey-moms riding around on them?
October 21, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes, yes they are
Whoa, McCain Just Agreed With Murtha, Western PA Racist
October 21, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
yes, yes they are
Whoa, McCain Just Agreed With Murtha, Western PA Racist
October 21, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe that McCain/Palin are feigning offense at someone being called a red neck. I thought that was a point of pride with Palin, evidenced by the marketing/consulting firm she tried to start called "Rouge Cou" (French for red neck). Which is it? An insult or a compliment? I wish those schizoid fucks would make up their minds.
October 21, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's damaged goods now - once the Queens of Conservatism (Noonan, Parker, Buckley, Brooks, Frum, Murphy, et al) have called you such things as "political bullshit" on camera, you're kind of toast.
Worse yet, unless she seeks help for her pathological mendacity, she will not be able to rehab herself and no one in the Repo Party will touch her with a hockey stick.
Lastly, people who dislike her have just scratched the surface and now she has been defanged in Alaska. so expect a lot of those ppl to percolate to the surface now that Palin dare not fire or bully them from Todd's office. Lawsuits are coming from Monegan & Wooten, the Personnel Board findings could go very badly and every day seems to bring new stank to the turd.
Once Obama gets the job done - she's a Moose Nugget.
October 21, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bless you, my son.
October 21, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I really hope you're right. In my worst dreams, she keeps showing up over and over as a Fox commentator. Or maybe in a remake of "Fargo."
October 21, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not so sure. Don't be surprised if she heads back north, starts Palin University and digests enough sound-bites to pass as relatively competent within a few years. Based on the lunacy we've seen from the base, I"d say the chance of Palin remaining a cult hero and national figure remains very high. Just look at Dick Nixon.
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October 21, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I concur. Palin has "it" with the base. The Zom-Bushes who never found any error with Dubya are repeating that blind-follower mentality with Palin. She will be back. Jesus will instruct them to vote for her too.
October 22, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I concur. Palin has "it" with the base. The Zom-Bushes who never found any error with Dubya are repeating that blind-follower mentality with Palin. She will be back. Jesus will instruct them to vote for her too.
October 22, 2008 12:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
She rocks the base. "Keep the base ignited" was the slogan. And that's what the Maverick McLame lacked. The math was: She would excite the base; McLame would attract the independents, and together they'd win the election. They only missed a few blind spots.
October 21, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh she's "excited the base" of the Repo Party alright! the problem (for them) is most of the Repo males ONLY think with their "base" (including "Mr Misogyny" himself John K McRove)
October 21, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are no women in the base. It's an absolute patriarchal base.
October 21, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Odd "base" those Repug males. My base is decidedly unmoved by Ms. Palin.
October 21, 2008 10:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Never know how that synergy stuff will work out.
"The celebrated dancer Isadora Duncan once wrote to George Bernard Shaw declaring that, given the principles of eugenics, they should have a child together.
"Think of it!" she enthused. "With my body and your brains, what a wonder it would be."
"Yes," Shaw replied. "But what if it had my body and your brains?"
http://www.anecdotage.com/index.php?aid=6851
October 21, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Weird...I always thought that that exchange was between Einstein and Monroe.
October 21, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "I can see Russia" line, combined with the eerie Tina Fey resemblance was just devastating for Palin's chances.
I know I'll probably be in the distinct minority on this one, but I am deeply happy that Palin doesn't have much time to rehabilitate her image. While I think she's not qualified to be Vice President, I do think she's quite clever and quick to learn, and I have a feeling that if we had a month to go, rather than two weeks, she'd have the press wound around her little pinkie.
October 21, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I doubt it about her little pinkie. The damage is done and I don't think she's the quick study you do. She said something stupid today or yesterday about the VP being "in charge" of the Senate. She still doesn't even get the basics of our constitutional republic.
Perhaps she can rehabilitate her reputation with those left-of-neanderthal in time for 2012, but I don't see it happening in a matter of weeks or months.
October 21, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think I captured what I was trying to express. I think Palin is a master at manipulation. And while I would hope otherwise, I think, given enough time, that she would be able to manipulate the press. Not everyone, certainly, but enough to make those little errors about the Vice Presidency seem like charming little foibles that she's managed to overcome.
She's just now starting to interact with the press. Remember how nauseatingly charmed the members of the national media were with Bush because he gave everyone nicknames?
Sarah Palin is a very attractive woman who's now learning the ways of the national media. If they fell in love with Bush, how do you think they'd respond to this person trying to charm them?
I'm sorry if I sound like Debbie the Downer.
October 21, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are YOU Debbie the Downer? Wow, I think I dated you back in the 70s.
October 21, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I agree with your assessment. Manipulation is her forte. She uses her social skills to psych out what people want. And try to give it to them. That's why she might not do well in a presser, where there are too many people to "please." That's where she's dangerous. Nonetheless, she's been the butt of national jokes. Very, very hard to overcome that, I hope!
October 21, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
"In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightening! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth. All shall love me and despair!"
October 21, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
"In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightening! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth. All shall love me and despair!"
Ah but Galadriel had the sense, class and wisdom to refuse that path (and regained her place in Valinor in the process).
My favoritefavoritefavorite moment in the entire body of Tolkien's work.
October 21, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
And despair they shall. That is an awesome picture of Palin.
October 22, 2008 12:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, and that's the nature of the MSM to tilt towards fluff. But, having said that, GW Bush was elected after decades of mostly prosperity, where even the most ignorant mouth breathing hick could run up his credit card debt while chanting "we're #1" to and from the mall in his Chevy F-U truck.
Now, reality is catching up with these people. Those who had just become complacent and voted for the guy they'd most like to have a non-alcoholic beer with, are now waking up. Those who are truly the most ignorant and stupid people are PO'ed realizing that in fact, while the US may be #1, it's no thanks to them, and for them, the party is over.
October 21, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
To rehabilitate her, they'd need to put her through the equivalent of a grad program. And I just do not see this woman as having the drive to study, study, study. She seems to like campaigning, getting her ego-rush from rallies. But she's always failed at governing, at the nuts and bolts, the nitty-gritty stuff. So I simply cannot see her having the staying-power to ever get up to speed on issues or reasoning through them.
She may be a 'quick study' when it comes to getting some folks to connect with her - but she's just not enough of a mental heavy weight in my view to ever bother filling her head with briefing books. Even bush got through grad school at Harvard. But I simply can't see this woman doing anything like that - even at Podunk U.
All that being said, I want us to keep a laser focus on this woman - making sure no stone she's tarnished goes unturned.
October 21, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign. Great post.
I don't see her making a mainstream comeback from this. I suspect that if the GOP loses the way it looks like they will, they will be able to read these polls quite clearly--Palin did this campaign in. She will be like kryptonite to anyone who is trying to rehabilitate the party. The crazies might still get excited by her, so she will do some rallies and speeches, spots on Fox News, etc., but I just don't think the GOP will let her back in with the big boys again. As the New Yorker piece showed, one portion of the GOP elite selected her because they were "dazzled"; a larger subset of the GOP elite despise her and the empty populism she represents. The GOP are a big bunch of elitists who disdain the public, until they need votes. She's not getting the votes, so I don't see her having a big future within their very top-down party. Those people hated Huckabee, but I suspect they will be more comfortable with him in the spotlight than her in two years.
October 22, 2008 8:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin destroyed McCain's credibility and highlighted the fundamental problem within the Republican party. A Democratic equivilent would have been if JFK picked George Wallace instead of LBJ to be his running mate. It would have been utterly cynical and shameless.
SNL is getting too much credit. SNL comedians couldn't take Biden down like that. You can lampoon anyone, but he's fundamentally a respectable candidate, warts and all.
McCain could have picked someone like Kay Bailey Hutchinson, and probably still would have lost, but at least he'd have kept his dignity.
McCain had it right in 2000 when he called Palin's crowd lunatics and avoided them. But the hicks and fundies are all the GOP have left. So, if you're a lifelong Republican and true believer, like McCain, you're forced to embrace them and ignore how crazy and ignorant they are. Pathetic.
Most Americans just don't have that kind of blind loyalty to party.
October 21, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
kozmic, as usual you get it right. But the problem is that if McCain had chosen Hutchinson, it would have done him no good. He'd have still lost the Presidential race badly.
The problem for the Republicans generally this year is that the conservative Republicans like McCain and the social conservatives do not have anyone in common who they can accept as leader. The Reagan Revolution worked because the conservative movement recovering from the Goldwater disaster allied themselves with the Christian Coalition, now called the social conservatives. That has always been a shaky alliance, one that Bush 41 failed to maintain. Bush 43 was able to reassemble it, but he has not passed it on to any other Republican the way Reagan passed it to Bush 41 in 1981.
Hutchinson is a conservative, not a social conservative. So is McCain. For McCain to choose her would have done nothing to reassemble the old Reagan coalition. McCain could not win without capitulating to the social conservatives, so he pulled the "Hail Sarah pass." It was a long shot that raised a lot of hopes while it was in the air, but there was no receiver in position to make it work.
Then there was McCain's belief in his gut decisions instead of planning and preparation. He failed to do the necessary preparation work before choosing Palin - or he was totally desperate and didn't even bother to try to vet her. Probably both. McCain has a habit of not being prepared in advance.
So McCain tried for a long shot without doing the necessary preparation work in advance. Surprise! It has failed and now come back to bite him in the ass. It has failed. Worse, what McCain may have thought he gained in getting the votes from social conservatives he has more than lost in the conservative movement and moderate Republicans like Colin Powell.
But nominating McCain was itself a long shot for the Republican party as a whole. He has actually done better than should have been expected. But I think it is clear now that - except for the uncertainty caused by the Bradley effect - the nomination of McCain will not work for the Republicans. The best they can hope for is to staunch the flow of losses in Congress. I don't think it is going to work.
Without an effective alliance between the movement conservatives and the social conservatives that results in high turn out of both groups the Republican party is going to be relegated to the position of a minority party. McCain can't create that alliance.
October 21, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm just not as sure as you are about this. I think the McCain camp 2.0 (Schmidt, Eskew, et al) are such Rove followers that they assumed that the base was the only path to victory. But in 200- and 2004, Rove analyzed the numbers behind the base and knew it would be sufficient to win. The McCain camp seems to be playing this like it's 2004, and it has utterly failed them. To not come up with an economic plan when you're running against a guy like Obama, who's been talking the economy for about 14 months before the general? Dumb.
Even dumber is that McCain considered other fiscal (rather than social) conservatives for VP and seems to have ignored every GOP woman except Palin. None of them even made the short list, even though Pawlenty and Lieberman did. This makes no sense.
You may be right that it might not have been enough to boost McCain to victory, but as these polls show, the Palin appeal to the base has actively hurt him. That's because it's utterly destroyed two of his top brand elements: maverick and experience. He ceded those to make an appeal to evangelicals, who are becoming more fractured politically.
I think with the race-baiting that they appear very willing to do, he'd have gotten enough "Nobama" votes from the crazies that his apparent middle-of-the-road status wouldn't have damaged the base support that much once it got down to the wire. Especially after Saddleback, I think they would have eventually come around--at least enough to get him where he is now.
Essentially, he sacrificed his image as a moderate in order to win the base. It was a dumb play because it makes no sense with who he is and his "best" qualities--qualities that he is still trying to run on because it's the only way he knows how to sell himself. Hutchison likely would have appealed to some Clinton-leaning voters and definitely would have kept the moderate Republicans in line. That's McCain's base. And he screwed them.
October 22, 2008 8:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have to say the world should all be thanking whomever they are inclined to that McCain wasn't sexually attracted to Condi Rice.
International Experience √
Domestic Experience √
Security Experience √
Debate/speech skills √
Education √
Liked by base √
Some appeal to Moderates √
Brains √
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I think he could have been President - if he had enough judgment to pick a solid VP.
lucky for us he didn't.
October 21, 2008 9:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah I forgot the most important one...
Condi Rice:
Adored by Oil Companies √√√√√
October 21, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
True dat!!!!!
October 22, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lucky for us, she seems to despise him.
And besides, it would be super hard for McCain to make the "I'm not Bush" argument with her as a running mate, and he knew he needed that capability.
October 22, 2008 8:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed.
on the "i'm not Bush" constraint, I think McCain has already proven that there is no lie to big nor issue to small for him to prevaricate about.
If he can look right in the camera and lie about Ayers, Palin, Keating, etc, he'd have no problem lying about that too.
October 22, 2008 8:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Undoubtedly, he would still lie about it. But the falsity would be even more transparent if he actually had a member of the Bush cabinet on his ticket.
October 22, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
PALIN FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012!!!!
October 21, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
AND THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS FOR.....
October 21, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
...any demonstrably sentient being running against her.
October 21, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary!
October 21, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
and mudflats to keep vetting her!
October 21, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am so switching registration for a day to vote for her in the Republican primary.
October 21, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
EVERYONE, if Palin runs in 2012 switch registrations to vote for her. Or is that not a Dem thing to do? Either way we could singlehandedly choose who we wish to run against.
October 21, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I remember when she was announced - Barack and Joe Biden at first blurted out: "This is a joke!" and then backpedaled.
They were right the first time, of course.
October 21, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
It makes me chuckle just thinking about it. Are there any references, video or otherwise, of Obama or Biden's reactions to her being chosen?
October 21, 2008 7:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
All I can find in the way of reaction is this.
October 21, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
This in the light of new reports she abused her power (yet again) spending more than $20,000 of government money to fund her children's travel expenses.
Greg, I would love a thread on the story.
October 21, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw, you just don't know "mavericky reform" when you see it. This is "mavericky reform" Palin Style!
October 21, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You betcha! :-)
(Thank goodness that phrase will be toast after 11/4!)
October 21, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You betcha" is the new "Potatoe" with an "e".
October 21, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
In what way, Charlie?
October 22, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
My favorite part of that story was that she billed the taxpayers to drag the Palinettes around with her for non-official business, and when called out on it, went back and changed the expense reports to make the travel "official".
But in neither case is the travel of children supposed to be billed to the taxpayers.
And those pesky per diems billed to Alaska for staying in her own home? Didn't bother to declare those payments as income for tax purposes.
Said it before and I'm saying it again... this woman will not make it through her only term without first seeing impeachment charges. And I hope the IRS crawl up her and the First Dud's butts with an indepth audit.
PEACE
October 21, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus it sounds like the event people were NOT happy to find that she had a bunch of kids in tow and expected to take them with her to the events!
October 21, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think folks use Palin as an excuse because they still have a soft spot for McCain. I mean Palin is a reflection of McCain's judgment, he chose her after all, she didn't choose herself.
October 21, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would have to agree... they aren't tying her to his judgement yet... after the election I think that will change.
But I do think Sarah Palin's lack of qualification is important to hit on during the rest of the days of this campaign. It seems to work best if it is done by celebrities and republicans.
October 21, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I personally have never had a soft spot for the man. He always seemed disingenuous to me. And Keating 5... I never believed him after that.
October 21, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unlike Cheney who DID choose himself.
October 21, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think so. When people say Palin, they are also referring to McCain's judgment in selecting her, his impulsivity in the choice. It is definitely a reflection on McCain. His Country First became Campaign First.
If you read some of the endorsements from the 26 newspapers that endorsed Bush in 04, but endorse Obama in 08, you'll find that Palin's obvious inexperience is #1, McCain judgement is #2 and his erratic campaign, along with negative campaigning are #3.
A really good example of this is the Chicago Tribune endorsement, since they've never before endorsed a Democratic candidate.
October 21, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
The press may not be using the Palin decision as an indication of McCain's judgment. Others - including Colin Powell - certainly are.
October 21, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
and as if it were not enough, she does not know anything the constitution since she thinks the VP is in charge of the senate, and the video is there to prove it...
October 21, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just listened to Hardball, (as I was doing something else while it was on) and someone said that Palin "could have learned what a VP does merely by watching the HBO miniseries, John Adams."
I've made this point before, but it is so true. She made this comment during the debate and no one in her camp corrects her, or is there a serious learning curve problem?
October 21, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Biden corrected her take on what the VP does, but I guess she just brushed it off as the Librul take on the office. Doubt she's ever read the Constitution, and further doubt she'd understand it if she does.
PEACE
October 21, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, Senator...
The chicken is home. Where do you want her to roost?
October 21, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!!
I think he had a good oppurtunity to dump her on the heels of the trooper gate report. He still might be trailing in the polls, but would've had a better chance.
People are scared of her. Scared.
October 21, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
She's horrible in every way.
October 21, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you just summed up Sarah Palin pretty nicely, there.
October 21, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
And to think, Johnny thought she'd bring in the Vagina Vote. I find women are more offended by the Palin pick than men at this point.
Did he really believe women were that stupid? Wait, don't answer...
PEACE
October 21, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Haha! That's a little harsh. She's a horrible politician and has backwards ideas, but she's still a human being. It's ok to show a little humanity sometimes, ya know
October 21, 2008 7:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are right, I would pee on her if she was on fire. ; )
October 21, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
One thing about Palin, has she has brought (certain) Republican and Democrats together in their utter repulsion of her.
I like that Peggy Noonan calls her vulgar. That is a really appropriate adjective, vulgar.
October 21, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
One thing about Palin, has she has brought (certain) Republican and Democrats together in their utter repulsion of her.
I like that Peggy Noonan calls her vulgar. That is a really appropriate adjective, vulgar.
October 21, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Picking Palin could become one of the most legendary backfires in political history!!
October 21, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Without a doubt.
She's one of the most insulting things the Repugs have ever tried to pull on us.
I spent 12 years in public school and 7 years getting a higher education. Yeah, I am going to think it's peachy for some bimbo with a fucking BA in Sports Journalism she finished by mail to become Vice President.
And loads of other women have that same reaction.
October 21, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
However, the college educated tend to always forget a crucial factor- they're a minority. I'm sure there are millions out there who feel Palin's qualified based on the way she winks at the crowd.
A female backlash against Palin would be a rousing victory for our country.
October 21, 2008 7:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
That qualifies her alright. Just ask Rich Lowry!
October 21, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excuse me, but most of the people I know who didn't get a degree want a president who actually has at least one and more than one, usually.
You are being rather snotty about people who don't have degrees in thinking they would stoop to that idiot.
Please.
October 21, 2008 7:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can vouch for the degreeless. We're not all stupid.
October 21, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, Tena. Just because some people are undereducated doesn't mean they are so frigging stupid as to think a lame-brain like Palin should be President. Please!
October 21, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right, PartisanCheese.
In fact I nearly embraced the six-pack-plumber momentum myself and looked for an average-Joe to perform my root canal. I figured I sure didn't want no "elitist" digging around in my maxillofacial nerves. Heck, we've had a regular guy at FEMA, the White House and nominated that never-practiced-law-shoplifter-guy to be judge and things have always turned out Ok, right?
October 21, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
The New Yorker story of Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol drooling all over her before their boat ride was kinda creepy, but enlightening. These people have been peddling crap to wingnut evangelicals in order to cover for/advance their insane foreign policy agenda for so long that they thought any useful idiot would do. That they convinced John McCain of the same thing tells us everything we need to know about the GOP. Come to think of it, the BA in sports journalism via correspondence course is more feature than bug for the base.
October 21, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I Co-sign all day long, all week long, all year long.
This woman hasn't even held a passport until sometime in '06 or '07. She can't speak like an adult and when she gets stuck, she gets flirty?Are you freaking kidding me? These goddamned, willfully stupid, whole 'nother reality inhabiting wingnuts have the very audacity to think she could in ANY way compare to a magna cum laude Harvard Law School graduate? Are you shitting me?
And McKlan says that she's "a great role model for women"? Then they are honestly surprised that women can feel the utter contempt he has for us.
I don't have children but I have 2 nieces and a nephew, and she is no role model for them, or any child. Just the thought that she is even the nominee for anything over dog catcher is a goddamned insult.
Sorry to get so hyped, but damn. She is a fucking insult. We don't all do the T&A equivalent to get where we are. She is a disgrace and her ludicrous example only makes it harder for us.
And these so-called Christians are so impressed with that frozen over riffraff?? Please, please, please--let us be free from these morons in two weeks!!
October 21, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoa. That smoked.
October 21, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, good one, Peach!
October 21, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
*WORD* McScum even said he was getting foreign policy advice from that fuckwit. He thinks we are stupid.
October 21, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
My favorite take on the Palin nomination was from Matt Damon, something along the lines of "this is like the plot from a bad Disney movie."
October 21, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROFL! It's hilarious to watch his "mavericky" stunt blow up in his face!
October 21, 2008 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is what McCain gets for pallin' around with Palin.
October 21, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, no, the top concern for voters should be John McCain himself who erratically and impulsively decided to place Palin as his running mate. She may be extremely flawed, but it was McCain's mis-judgment that led to her being on the ticket.
Even if he dumps her, he will continue to be the erratic, impulsive gambler he has proven himself to be throughout this entire campaign and therefore not suitable in the least for the high office of the presidency.
October 21, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign.
And if you look at the internals of the Pew poll, you see that people doubt mcShame due to his picking the Dame (and his age and his recklessness... of which his VP pick is a prime example)
October 21, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, I'm a regular reader on TPM and i just love your comments. I think you do a good job of expressing the indignation of the Palin pick.
October 21, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw thanks.
It's terribly sweet of you to tell me that. I have an attitude - been told that my whole life. And a mouth. That's a cause of a lot of personal controversy and pain - mouthy women are not always terrible popular.
;)
October 21, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe, but quiet women never change the world. Keep up the mouthiness... it's good stuff.
October 21, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Some folks believe that Palin was solely to motivate the base to save down ticket races.
I'm glad he didn't choose Ridge, Pawlenty, Romney, or Portman. All had their exploitable warts - Ridge is pro-choice, Pawlenty is boring, Romney had too many houses (big deal at the time) and Portman is a Bush White House veteran, but none could be as bad as Palin.
October 21, 2008 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't leave out a Republican governor who also would've made a more formidable VP: Jodi Rell of Connecticut. I don't care for her politics at all, but she's honest, a fiscal conservative, and battle-tested in a grown-up state. Probably flunks a litmus tests for the Whigs, er, Republicans so they didn't choose her, but she would've made the VP debate much more evenly matched.
October 21, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Around the end of September, I heard from two acquaintances I had labeled "Democratic racists" for their refusal to vote for Obama.
When McCain announced Palin, they were both determined to vote for McCain. Three weeks later, they had moved to not voting at all in the presidential race. Why?
Palin. She terrified them. And that was before the VP debate.
I'm pretty sure than by Nov. 4, they'll be ready to do the right thing.
October 21, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Y'know, even if they don't vote it amounts to the same thing. I'll bet a LOT of folks who expected to vote for McCain are going to end up staying home.
October 21, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
My spouse is an (R) and is not voting. Most of our friends are (R)'s and are either voting for Obama or not voting at all. They are really disgusted with McCain for Palin, which they feel was nothing but a political stunt aimed at the right-wing radical fringe.
October 21, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's make this perfectly clear. It is not Palin's fault McCain chose her; it is McCain's fault. What was she supposed say when he offered her the slot? "John, I can't do this because I am utterly unqualified and have little or no knowledge or any world and most national affairs, I canned my police chief when he refused to fire my ex brother-in-law, my daughter just got knocked up by an orang a tang she was dating, I've been taking extra state money left and right, and I don't really believe in evolution?"
October 21, 2008 7:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes.
October 21, 2008 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. And someone else had the sense to do that when FDR asked him to run in '44. Can't remember his name off the bat....
October 21, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
She angled for that slot! She entertained two boatloads of repub pundits in 2007. Yes, she worked for this!
October 21, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's see, admit that you are underqualified or humiliate yourself, your family and your entire state when you are scrutinized by the media and the American people.
October 21, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey guys, whassup wit all the Palin hate? I'm a lonely guy and wouldn't mind having a night wit her daughter, the pregnant one...
Oh, did I just say that out loud?
October 21, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard something that I think aptly describes what the Palin pick was for John McCain. She was, quite simply, a shot of adrenalin or steroids. McCain's campaign, after the absolutely stunning spectacle of the Dem Convention, was teetering on the edge of absolute implosion after constant mixed messaging and lack of discipline. She was a shot of steroids, like an athlete in sports trying to get an edge, And it worked, for a while. Thing with steroids is, unless you keep taking it, eventually your body will fall back to its natural level of performance. Worse yet, if the athlete becomes too dependent, and stops, the body withdraws and is worse off than it was before. See: McCain/Palin
October 21, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Young women don't like her because she's not qualified. Old women don't like her because she's not a lady.
October 21, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeez, when she was first announced, I went and slammed her on other sites I visit that are not political in nature but that nevertheless discuss politics and they thought *I* was crazy...
October 21, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's because you never considered how truly mavericky it is to not only fight against your own party, but to actually fuck the whole party up for generations to come!
October 21, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fight on all ye true Mavericks, Fight on!!! And when they rear their ugly heads in our air space we will send the eyes to them! You betcha we are ready for 2012. Bring the 6-packs, the hockey sticks and moose killing guns!
Palin sometimes makes me laugh out loud.
October 21, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why is any poll, two weeks out, still reporting REGISTERED VOTERS as the top line number?
registration is over (except in places with same day reg, of course), now it's all about who will actually show up
October 21, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
But look at the picture. She wants to french me! She wants to french all of America and we cannot resist!!!
October 21, 2008 7:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccains-health-part-i.html
Monday, October 20, 2008
McCain's Health
As indicated by today's Pew Research findings indicating increasing concerns about John McCain's age, behavior and judgment, health--the physical and cognitive functioning of the person holding, arguably, the most important position on Earth is certainly relevant to the very essentials of the Presidency, such as decision-making, ability to attend to multiple and constantly shifting events, scenarios and possibilities, ability to persist and to remain both strong and flexible under stress, and the abilities to handle staff capabilities, demands, and agendas, to name but a few key areas--but the public has not seemed to be quite ready to deal with the question of McCain's health, regarding it either in categorical terms and truisms--rather than truth; or in humor regarding his age--such as listing the number of jobs he would be ineligible to hold at his age (Judgeships, commercial airline pilot, etc.), the AP noting that "six-packs, automatic transmissions and the American Express card were all introduced after he was born", a site devoted entirely to McCain's age entitled "John McCain. Old. Really Old"; the Harvard Satyrical Press noting that he "voted for the Articles of Confederation before he voted against them" and so on; Others have simply avoided the issue entirely (except, often, for the right-wing, which argued strenuously and extensively that McCain was "too old" in multiple publications during the primary fight, publications that have now grown curiously silent on the issue).
In the current total situation--a nation beset by financial crisis; the existence of multiple unstable foreign policy arenas as well as critical future decisions with regard to the stabilization of others; and the essential need to steadily recover from eight years of a largely disastrous domestic and foreign policies, has combined with evidence--the choice of a largely unqualified Vice Presidential candidate, and the impulsive, reactive, and often shifting decision-making, based largely on the needs and contingencies of the moment, that a McCain Presidency would lack the steady, broad, persistent and flexible intellectual and functional foundations necessary at this critical time. The reasons for the reactions and decision-making seen thus far are legion. However, one important contributing factor--and one that, by actuarial standards, would be likely to grow worse during a McCain Presidency--is the candidate's health. Of course, it is important to be careful in making conclusions about health without a physician's examination and report; nevertheless, it is also important to make reasonable inferences about functioning that are made from the data, given the potential significance of the information to our decision. This is information that any citizen can find and use to educate themselves about questions about McCain's health, just as journalists do or wish to do--and given that concerns about Sarah Palin as a Vice Presidential candidate also rank highly among voter issues, are especially salient.
Physically, Senator McCain has shown an admirable vigor on the campaign trail that certainly a minority of 72-year old men could match. He is driven like few men of his age towards such a demanding goal.
However, in terms of physical functioning, he has also suffered from four episodes of one of the most serious forms of skin cancer melanoma, including two malignant melanomas removed from his arm and temple during a six-hour operation in 2000--which also included removal of his salivary gland and multiple lymph nodes in his neck, as well as the removal in 2002 of a melanoma on his nose. This puts into stark contrast his choice of a Vice Presidential candidate who has struggled to discuss basic aspects of domestic and foreign policy at a time of vital demands in both areas. Yet, as we will see below, the McCain campaign has fought to keep access to his voluminous medical records from the scrutiny necessary to accurately determine current and past functioning, and likely prognoses. Indeed, as we will see, in May 2008, the McCain campaign limited access to these records to one local newspaper and one national newspaper who were allowed to observe the records for a limited period; they did not allow photocopying and did not release the records. Moreover, records were only provided for the previous eight years, leaving out thousands of pages of McCain's medical history from all of those prior years.
Cognitively, in terms of emotional functioning and intelligence, McCain often displays a canny sense of the moment and readily moves towards certain forms of humor. He is not unintelligent--surely more intelligent than his predecessor it is sad but true to say, and has shown growth and development in certain ways that represent admirable, if in part perhaps politically opportunistic, changes.
At the same time, the core individual is emotionally shot through with a persistent anger than burns through even his most humorous moment--noted even in the largely hagiographic biography by Bob Timberg. The resentment, the need to prove, the anger at what has occurred--both during Hanoi and long before--is always there, driving him on as a prime referent, shaping his reactions to events, his positions and inflexibility on what is right, even the wryness of his humor as compared to his sense of rage, drawing everything in his orbit to that central point, in a way that is even more fundamental than Bush's familial resentments--far more willing, in movement from that central point, to make the impulsive, "What the hell" gesture, far less burdened by the momentary, quickly covered self doubt.
If the key emotion is an impulsive, reactive rage shot through by the long and hard learned bare container of tactics--there are many moments when you can see him actually engaging in the suppressive act of not exploding--the cognitive concerns are of more recent origin, but also now highly relevant. As the journal Annals of Internal Medicine noted in Prevalence of Cognitive Impairment without Dementia in the United States (2008), nearly one-quarter of adults who are age 71 or above suffer from the disorder known as Mild Cognitive Impairment (MCI). Other estimates of the disorder among the elderly have ranged from 17-34%. MCI is often a precursor to Alzheimer's Dementia--that is, those who are diagnosed with MCI often progress to this more serious disorder of memory and functioning as they continue to age. Indeed, in comparison to elderly persons who are healthy, who develop dementia at a rate of 1-2% per year, those who have MCI have been estimated to progress to dementia at a rate of 10-15% per year. The Mayo Alzheimer Disease Center has found that, for those who have MCI, the progression to Alzheimer's rated as high as 80% in MCI populations studied for 6 years.
During the 2000 election campaign, McCain's cognitive function--his memory, his tendency to make notable and cognitively revealing slips--was not at issue. The emotional factors--impulsivity, rage--were clear, if somewhat better controlled (this issue of decreased control due to cognitive impairment is another issue to be discussed in the next section). However, there was no evidence, for example of memory impairment.
Occasional errors of memory and verbal slips are common for all of us. However, during the 2008 campaign, however, McCain has shown repeated errors of memory and misstatements that are at the very least suggestive of MCI; for example: not once, but repeatedly referring to the existence of Czechoslovakia, a nation that does not exist--suggesting not only the original error of memory, but the forgetting of the error consistent with an impairment in the ability to remember later-learned information characteristic of MCI; the confusion of among the nations of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and which nations border one another; the inability to remember his own voting record on major/substantive issues, such as contraception; inability recalling his stance on discussions with Spain, or the nation's Prime Minister, referring to Vladimir Putin as the "President of Germany", and forgetting a question that he had just been asked in Panama City--seemingly unable to focus on or follow the words that had just been said, although clearly audible and sensible content.
In distinguishing between ordinary memory loss and MCI, it is important to realize that MCI occurs across multiple areas or domains of cognition. Thus, in addition to showing memory loss, those with MCI also show word-finding difficulty and other language disturbances, as well as difficulties with attention, such as focusing on and following other people's speech. As the initial presentation of these is mild, and the individual is otherwise able to function, they may deny such difficulties. The importance here is the disturbance in multiple areas of cognition. While certainly deserving of greater study, it is significant to note that there is evidence of each of these in the examples above.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccains-health-part-i.html
October 21, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, go away.
October 21, 2008 7:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
To paraphrase Biden: "Robert, stop these posts!"
October 21, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Way to harsh my buzz.
October 21, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
But you have to watch out - he's a bit psycho. I went to his blog and posted a comment asking him to stop and he went berserk, went to First Draft looking for me and was so out of control Athenae banned his ass.
She emailed me.
October 21, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I engaged him for a time, and then I realized what you are saying here. He seems to be one of those people who lack that sensor that says to them "Hey buddy, you're standing a bit too close."
October 21, 2008 7:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you're saying Robert Hewson is our Todd Palin.
October 21, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Must be upset that nobody reads his blog. He obviously goes to a lot of trouble to write those posts. But dammit, they all just keep hanging out at TPM.
October 21, 2008 8:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, just stop. Really. I can understand you are trying to get people to your blog, but guys like Josh and Kos built their audiences the old fashioned way...on their own with good writing and insightful commentary.
October 21, 2008 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's really telling is there a contingent of the republican base who thinks she is their next superstar. Really.
I think once she is no longer guvn'r of Alaska, she will enjoy a long and fruitful career as a Fox News personality.
All the qualities that her supporters praise about her, charming, youthful, perky, energetic, are great if you are hosting a TV show but not really for running the USA.
If Fox News gave Huck his own show, then she could get 5 times the ratings he does.
Give me some help with her show title:
Palin and Pals
You Betcha
Sarracuda
October 21, 2008 7:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
"If Fox News gave Huck his own show, then she could get 5 times the ratings he does."
Indeed, this is what she should be doing. As opposed to governing. That degree in tv journalism is actually worth something.
October 21, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've got it: Judy and Sarah, The Felon and the Fox, coming up next on Fox!
October 21, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
They are desperate.
Those Repugs are absolutely desperate. They are the very useful idiots who elected Bush and were screwed royally by him because he didn't keep one promise he made to the religious right. Now the Repug party is fractured and they are only one faction and I'm betting they don't win the war for the party.
They would grab onto her like a lifesaver thrown to a drowning man, regardless of who she is or how qualified - they are desperate for a savior.
October 21, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nowhere near as desperate as they're going to be if Obama and the Dem congress make real positive changes, quickly, efficiently and without drama. THEN the Repubs are going to be REALLY desperate.
October 21, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
That applies to Repugs in general. I was strictly talking about those Repugs on the extreme right, specifically the religious right.
October 21, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Meanwhile the moderate Republicans will try to take back their party. And all the talk before the Dem Convention was about party disunity, but in the end it is the Repubs who have a fractured party.
October 21, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn. I forgot all about that Albert. How long ago that seems....
October 21, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think FOX will have to invent a new type of show just for her. A reality show, of course, which could combine some survivor elements with some type of talent competition. I'm sure she can sing...
October 21, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Saracudastan...
In a land where Reason is only a memory, and where Syntax is just like, y'know, a pesky 'skeeter in July... one Woman stands alone!
That Woman: Sara Palin. And that land...
Saracudastan!"
Coming to Fox this Spring. (You betcha!)
October 21, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've got it!!!!
October 21, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
All I can say is: d'uh
October 21, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's face it, McCain picked Palin because of her feminine wiles and the charm she worked on him. There's no way he could have factored in all her shortcomings for national office.
Country first? No, libido first.
October 21, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are right about McCain's mysoginy but wrong in how he applied it.
He picked Palin because he thought that Hillary's supports were ripe for the picking. Remember all of the bitterness and PUMA rage that was going around when Barrack got the nod?
The Palin pick was a huge miscalculation. McCain thought that women didn't have brains and were supporting Hillary because of her gender and not because of her resume (8 years in the Senate; lifetime in local, state and national politics; wealth of policy ideas). Women DO have critical thinking skills, Johnny-boy.
If he can miscalculate on something this obvious then we can assume he'd miscalculate on something more serious. We do not need this man as our President.
October 21, 2008 7:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said. And now MSNBC reports what a huge miscalculation Palin was:
"Fifty-five percent of respondents say she’s not qualified to serve as president if the need arises, up five points from the previous poll."
October 21, 2008 8:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd say you are on to something Indy. A good old friend of mine, who actually rubs elbows with some of the lever pullers in this world, cautioned that one shouldn't rule out the possibility that Palin provided "services" of the oral nature to get the nod. Of course my friend said, "McCain is a horn dog, don't be surprised to find out she blew him."
October 21, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
He was looking for something to jump-start his campaign. (and himself?)
October 21, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree she belongs at Fox and I think she could be a real star there.
She's got it all for Fox- including being meaner than shit.
She's about as charming as a water moccasin. She's not even as charming as a rattlesnake.
That ain't charm. Oddly enough, women seem to get this and men apparently don't.
October 21, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the show title!
Sarah's Snake Charm
October 21, 2008 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember that trip she took abroad? She must have some sort of charm because a politician had a fatwa laid on his head for something he said to her.
Don't be so dismissive. It's dangerous.
October 21, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't tell me how I"m supposed to view her - I am perfectly capable of forming my own impression and that is not charm. It's miles from charm.
October 21, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Touchy touchy!
I didn't tell you how to view her. I told you not to be so dismissive of others' comments or opinions.
Reading is a tough skill to master, I guess.
October 21, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, my reading comprehension skills suck.
October 21, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was when the Pakistani minister met Palin in New York.
October 21, 2008 8:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh that's right. Silly me. Palin doesn't have a passport. What was I thinking? :)
October 21, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, you've outdone yourself!
"charming as a water moccasin"
I wonder if we could get Deanie Mills to write the novel! Start with the title. Or perhaps she could write about the 2 rattlesnakes coiled in the moonlight... and how a water moccasin is more charming... And Palin enters in somehow...
Yes, the good news here is that women are "onto" her. And if men aren't, well we women will "work on them" till they are! I read somewhere, early in this whole mess, that women caught on to her pretty quickly and it took men longer, but when they did..... whew!
October 21, 2008 8:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excuse me... uh... how a water moccasin is "less" charming - than the rattlesnakes...
October 21, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'll find the most charmers amongst the cobras.
October 21, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know you're just trying to make a general point here, Tena. But I don't personally know of one man, in my circle or at work, that finds her remotely charming. I've heard plastic, flirty (not as a compliment), phony, dumb, dishonest...I could go on.
And whatever charm she's had in the past couple of months has clearly worn off of Chris Matthews.
October 21, 2008 8:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
IT's not charm - that doesn't wear off - it doesn't. You're either charming or not.
She's not - she's sexy.
October 21, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
See below. I get what you're saying now.
OK, can we agree on yucky? Cuz that's how I feel each time I see or hear her.
October 21, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
You'll be happy to know that some men do get it. My spouse thinks she is a skank that likes to play coy and truly believes she is the smartest person in the room, when she is actually a moron.
October 21, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Charm works equally on men and women. What Palin has does not work on women by and large.
That ain't charm. She's selling sex.
That's all there is to it.
October 21, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. Good distinction between the charm/sex.
October 21, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you.
:)
October 21, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a woman and an attorney, I have to say that Palin does not have charm either. She is pretty and has a great smile but is empty inside. Did anyone see some of her early college photos? She looks so blank. There is something fundamentally missing in her psyche. I can't quite put my finger on it and I am by no means a psychologist but I would swear that she is mentally ill.
October 21, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, my youth prison photo finally showed up!!! :)
October 21, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a great photo!
But exactly how many lawyers do we have out here?
I feel well covered.
October 21, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I live in Oklahoma. Ugh!! But, I helped and will continue to support Indiana attorneys and others in any states that need my advice regarding electing Obama. It's been hard living in a very red state but the fight continues.
October 21, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've got a psychologist in me. And yes, the woman is very, very troubled. Extremely needy. She was the third baby in 3 years when her mom was in her early 20's. I'm not sure she learned to speak from an adult....
October 21, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel ya - I live in Texas most of the time.
If the coastal liberals just had a clue what people like you and me have been through - we've had our commitment tested.
Time and again. LOL!
October 21, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. It's hard Tena but I keep working on it. Can our states really be that stupid? Oklahoma is the worst! I actually see nothing but Obama signs and bumper stickers but then again, I live in a very liberal town...on purpose.
October 21, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
There can be nothing wrong with a state that features Kreuz BBQ. We'd swing WAY out of our way to end up in Lockhart on our travels.
October 21, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, not all the east coast is blue. I love Charleston but not SC and even Charleston is tough in these times. But I have to say, I have seen lots and lots of Obama/Biden bumper stickers and very very few McCain stickers. I've been rather surprised by that. I had one of my store customers tell me after the R convention that he thought Palin gave a great speech. When I asked him what part was so great he thought for about 2 mintues (smoke was coming out of his ears) and finally said "She said it was an honor to be running with Senator McCain." I couldn't help myself - I burst out laughing.
October 21, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was a traveling musician for fifteen years, so I've seen most of the country many times over. There are great people everywhere. Whatever east coast bias I might have possessed was gone after the first tour.
And thanks for your work!
October 21, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I am glad we have a psychologist on board. Are you a therapist? Palin needs one.
October 21, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops, wrong person. You are the musician. I will get the hang of this sooner or later.
October 21, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops, wrong person. You are the musician. I will get the hang of this sooner or later.
October 21, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin could not profit from therapy. First of all you need some smarts. And some ability to look yourself. And motivation. Awareness she has problems. Ummmm... She's got a character disorder.
Do not send her to me.
October 21, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
How to destroy your campaign in less than an hour. From an article to appear in NYT Magazine Article about the dysfunction which is the McCain Campaign:
October 21, 2008 8:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Schmidt and Davis - Great Jumping Jesus - are the Democratic plants or something? Or are they really this terrible at what they do?
October 21, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Given McCain's campaign, I'd believe that they're plants.
October 21, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love your expression there Tena. Says it all.
October 21, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"snake charmer" (some men have their "snakes" to be charmed)
October 21, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes.
Charm is indefinable, but it's not sexual really - it can be, but not strictly.
I don't know - I'm sputtering, but it's one of those things that you know when you encounter it - like charisma, which she also lacks, IMO.
Though certainly she has way more going on than McLame. Way more. He's unpleasant - to look at, to listen to - brrrr...
October 21, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Vamp - was the word I came up with. Somewhere, if you click my name, is that blog.
October 21, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is a good word. I had to think about it and the reason is her voice.
That ain't a vamp voice. LOL!!!
October 21, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
In legalize, she is just plain stupid ;) and intellectually incurious. It is a horrible continuation of Bush.
October 21, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I meant legaleaze. Sheesh, we need an edit function!
October 21, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even the nodes are going nuts with the discussion here!
October 21, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I'll tell y'all what - Todd Palin makes my skin crawl.
There's something very weird about him - don't ask me what, but just viscerally he makes my skin crawl.
October 21, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't say what he is, but I know a creepy dude when I see one. As my dad would say, "They're out there, buddy."
They're the reason parents would their daughters "mad money" before they picked them up for dates.
(Note to those who think I'm being unfair: I know.)
October 21, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what I get from him, too.
October 21, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has *the light*....
October 21, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is that why she needed the exorcism?
(oh, dear, have I gone too far?)
October 21, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a feeling that their oldest son feels that one of the benefits of being in Iraq is that it puts him half way around the world from both of them
October 21, 2008 8:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
heh.
October 21, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Politico has a story on how the RNC has spend a whopping $150,000 or Palin's VP Fashion.
and
Full story available here - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html
October 21, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goddamn, Jonze - I was just going to post that - swear to god.
LOL!!!!
October 21, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm loving this. Too much....
75K at Needless Markup? I hope Stanley is a Democrat...
Put it up on TPM! "White trash Barbie Fleeces GOP"
October 21, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Combining that with the AP story about how she fleeced Alaska by flying her children to all these government events even when they weren't invited.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27310999/
October 21, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh, heh...
Well, she knows a cash cow when she sees it...
October 21, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can hear it already: "The media is attacking Sarah's children!"
October 21, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stanley was a Democrat - you betcha!
Stanley Marcus was a class act and one of the truest gentlemen I've ever met.
He is no longer alive.
October 21, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wondered that...oh, well.
October 21, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not that long ago.
Actually, I held the door of the video rental place open for Stanley about a week before he died - he looked good.
It's a terrible loss to Dallas- that man was single-handedly responsible for bringing style and sophistication to Dallas - and he was a hell of a good guy.
October 21, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't get me wrong-I love going to Neimans. Just can't afford it. LOL! Yeah, he's left quite a mark in Dallas from what I understand...
October 21, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have some extremely fond memories of shopping with my mother - not that she could afford things at Neimans, but she would shop the store just the same and we had an awfully good time. They did they things Fortnight every year - Stanley started it - they'd pick a country and highlight everything about it and turn the whole store into that country, basically. It was like going to an exposition. I have great memories of lunches with mother in Zodiac Room there.
That store is more than a store in Dallas. It's a fucking monument. They keep threatening to close the downtown store - I hope they don't.
The Marcuses don't own it anymore you know.
October 21, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't most women from small-town America spend $150,000 on clothes at Neiman and Saks? What's the problem?
October 21, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
She was just doing her part to stimulate the economy.
October 21, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL, big spenders! Aaaand they are claiming they would balance the fuckin budget in four years! Are you kidding me!?
October 21, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't see your post. I posted the same thing and it ended up right below you. Oops.
Olbermann jibed that when the campaign is over, Sarah will say "but I get to keep the clothes, right?"
Sarah Palin, living proof that clothes do not make the man.
October 21, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, if I have this right, Palin has spent... on clothes... more than three times what Joe the Plumber makes in an entire year.
Yep, no hypocrisy to see here, folks, just move along.
October 21, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
GOP spends $150,000 on clothing for Palin and her family. (Countdown)
October 21, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
These folks are really cleaning up!
October 21, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had wondered about that, actually.
October 21, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only question left is the size of the butt whuppin
October 21, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only question left is the size of the butt whuppin
October 21, 2008 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
If the early voters are any indication, Pew pegs them today at 58%Obama, 34% mcShame. I hope that trend continues....
October 21, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
And let's not forget about the downticket candidates, too. Kicking the GOP to the curb.
October 21, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, a candidate for the state senate in Wisconsin endorsed Obama today, IIRC.
October 21, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
D'oh - a Republican candidate for state senate...
October 21, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is nice:
October 21, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beautiful!!
October 21, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, oh. If even rural WI state legislators feel they're in trouble..... ooooh, boy!
October 21, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
2 weeks left for them to endorse Barack!
October 21, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hells yeah
October 21, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin is to McCain what the iceberg was to the Titanic.
October 21, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
BINGO!
October 21, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I take it Palin is not popular around these parts.
October 21, 2008 8:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin is on television with her wrong answer about what a VP does. So confident in her ignorance.
October 21, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheney, Cheney! (albeit a stupider one).
October 21, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
So confident in her ignorance.
That's it exactly!
October 21, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cocky wacko.
:)
October 21, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
July 31, 2008 - Palin wants to make sure "that VP slot is especially fruitful for Alaska".
That is the AIP talkin', doncha know.
October 21, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
My favorite on politico reacting to the Palin $150,000 shopping spree.
"Palin is a one woman earmark."
October 21, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here she is, Miss America...♫ ♪ ♬
http://picasaweb.google.com/warpstation/MccainHeadache#5251640084526955554
October 21, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Got to keep working, I actually want these polls to tighten up, that way we can panick AND KEEP WORKING!
October 21, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please don't worry - everyone is working.
October 21, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Based on what I've seen about their income tax returns the Palins don't have that much money of their own. I am agog at $150,000 for one shopping spree on clothes and shoes.
I can't imagine - and we do better than the Palins. a lot.
October 21, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
No wonder she requested her kids drop out of school and travel with her...
October 21, 2008 9:14 PM