Palin Falsely Represented McCain's Position On Bankruptcy And Mortgages
Here's another Palin flub from last night's debate: She endorsed an economic populist position that McCain opposes, and seemed to present it as the GOP ticket's position.
During the debate, Joe Biden talked about allowing bankruptcy courts to deal with the housing crisis by adjusting the principal amounts that people owe on their mortgages, and added that McCain and Palin don't support it. Palin replied, "That is not so."
In fact, it is so. McCain spokesman Brian Rogers confirmed to ABC News after the debate that McCain doesn't back it.
More flubs to come throughout the day, we suspect, as more and more people get to review the tape.
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She's just like me! She's one of us!
Leave Sarah Alone!
October 3, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's a VAMP.
And I'm done with her. In case you want to read my valedictory post on this pathetic part of American history:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/10/vamp-a-type-of-femme-fatale.php
Or just let go. Let's get to Detox. No more Vamp or vamping or anything to do the Dame!
October 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's not flub we can believe in
October 3, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately with some of these things... after the fact doesn't matter as much to voters, especially if the flub isn't "sensational".
October 3, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, you revisionists and your facts! You must be using a "media filter" or something.
October 3, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wish we had a filter to block out the Dame altogether!
October 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
32 days. America will filter out her AND McSame.
October 3, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm. I wonder if it was really a flub. She's stupid but she has animal shrewdness. I got the impression many times during the debate that she was throwing McLame under the bus and setting herself up for 2012 by doing the Huck wingnut-populist thing.
October 3, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Huckabee/Palin 2012
October 3, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
If they can top the Gingrich/Paul ticket.
October 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or the Romney/Cantor ticket.
October 3, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just threw up a little in my mouth. And got a chill. And the hair on the back of my neck stood up. And I pissed myself.
October 3, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it could be Romney/Giuliani, although after the discovery this cycle that people like Giuliani less the more they learn about him, I decided to go with someone else from the business wing of the party. If all else fails, they can probably dig up Jeb Bush.
October 3, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. I wondered the same thing - which would be perfectly in keeping with her black widow history.
On the other hand, in her defense, it's hard to keep up on McCain's most recent position on a lot of stuff.
October 3, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
"So when we talk about energy plans, it's not just about who got a tax break and who didn't. And we're not giving oil companies tax breaks, but it's about a heck of a lot more than that."
Apparently Palin doesn't understand that the McCain/Palin plan gives tax breaks to the oil companies.
October 3, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
She was filababbling last night.
October 3, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Like the term.
October 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll bet that virtually everything she said that were not specifically on her talking pints will turn out to be far from the truth. I am sure in her head she wanted to say "It's not true that we are not on the side of homeowners (irresponsibly though they have been)." She wasn't responding to the specific policy. If katie Couric was around to ask her the simple question "Explain the bankruptcy reform proposal to me and why you support it" it would have been another train wreck. She was never debating policy at all.
The entire point of her debate was to say you are on the people;s side without having to admit that none of your policies actually address the people's needs one iota more than Bush's own policies. Education. Social Security,. Health care. Taxes. When it comes to the specifics they are offering the same old garbage that has punished the middle class and put our country in a hole that is deepening every day. Joe did a so-so job making that clear, Barack does and will do it even better.
October 3, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I expect the next debate to be particularly devastating to McCain for exactly the point you make.
October 3, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain will go on about spending spending spending oblivious to the fact that the vast majority of increased discretionary spending over the last 8 years has been in defense and homeland security.
He will say Barack's health care reform put the government in charge of your health care (who is in charge of your health care, Senator)?
He will not mention college education at all.
He will say we need to lower taxes for businesses to create more jobs, never mind the disastrous job performance of the last 8 years.
Blah blah blah.
Barack will nail him hard
October 3, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Eric, you missed my Favorite Palin flub from last night:
"John McCain's maverick position that he's in, that's really prompt up to and indicated by the supporters that he has. (???!) Look at Lieberman, and Giuliani, and Romney, and Lingle, (???!) and all of us who come from such a diverse background of -- of policy and of partisanship, all coming together at this time, recognizing that HE IS THE MAN THAT WE NEED TO LEAVE -- lead..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ0klLngnzY
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/debate.transcript/
Really... it felt like Biden was debating an uncharming female version of Yogi Berra.
October 3, 2008 10:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who the heck is Lingle?
October 3, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rush?
October 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gov of Hawaii.
October 3, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Huh.
Rudy, Mitt and Gov. Lingle are all republicans, and Lieberman is a 'effin traitor.
October 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Facts are silly things.
October 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can I get some clarification? Palin said that she, and McCain and a "team of mavericks" was going to fix Washington; Isn't a "team of mavericks" the same thing as a herd?
October 3, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
More like a herd of lemmings... run amok? the "base" following?
October 3, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Listening to her last night, I went beyond seeing Tina Fey to seeing Jane Curtin. The Coneheads. With a Fargo accent.
October 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
these kind of contradictions are ok if you are a maverick. same with against Roe but believe in a constitutional right to privacy. IOKIYM
October 3, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
There were several instances where it was apparent that Sarah had no idea how to answer (and no index card at her disposal, either) and so offered a sacrificial guess brushing the question aside before launching into her talking points. At least a couple of those instances required that she answer a yes/no question, so she simply flipped a coin and, in this case guessed wrong.
In fact, if I recall correctly, her first response to the bankruptcy question did not even include the introductory swatting away of the actual question, but instead just launched right into the talking points on another subject entirely. Her wrong guess on McCain's actual bankruptcy position was, I think, her second shot at that one (in response to one of Gwen's very few follow-ups).
October 3, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gwen's follow ups last night were nonexistent after Palin pointedly told her I'm not going to answer the questions you ask anyway.
I don't think I can get this riled up about debates anymore, I was so anxious and animated the entire time. It was totally exhausting. I may have to sit the next 2 out. I got tired of yelling at the tv last night and keeping up with the live bloggers.
any thoughts about the partner rights & gay marriage discussion?
October 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
do they really think that all these lies will not come back on them they are really fools
October 3, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink