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Palin Drops Reference To William Ayers From Stump Speech

After attacking Barack Obama's association with William Ayers for several days running, including yesterday, Sarah Palin made no mention of Ayers in her speech at a joint appearance with McCain in Pennsylvania that ended moments ago. Neither did McCain.

The missing Ayers reference suggest that the Ayers attacks may have backfired, and that the Obama campaign's counter-attack -- that the McCain team wants to use slimy negative attacks to distract from a discussion from the economy -- may have been effective.

It's also possible that Palin dropped the reference today because unlike in the past few days, she's appearing jointly with McCain. But even if that's so, it suggests that the McCain team doesn't want McCain directly associated with the Ayers reference.

Palin's non-mention of Ayers is only the latest sign that the McCain team is all over the map on Ayers right now. This morning, The Politico quoted McCain advisers saying McCain wouldn't focus on the former Weatherman going forward. But the McCain campaign also blasted out a statement from John Murtagh, who says his house was bombed by the Weather Underground when he was nine, hammering Obama's ties to Ayers.

In other words, the McCain campaign wants Ayers to be discussed in the press, but doesn't want McCain -- and now also Palin, perhaps -- associated with such a slimy attack at a time when voters want solutions to the economic crisis.


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Apparently Cindy took some pot shots at Obama today.

Whatsamattah, McCain? Too chickenshit to take Obama on directly, you gotta farm it out to your lady friends?

He's a pathetic old man.

I think it's more than that...

I think that McCain is ashamed of the campaign that he's been running. After all the talk of Bill Ayers in the last few days from all of the McCain surrogates -- especially Palin -- why didn't he bring it up last night at the debate? He could have snuck a little jab about Ayers at any time throughout the debate, and arguably changed the course of the campaign.

Why didn't he? I think it's because McCain knows what a sleazy campaign has been run in his name. Country First my ass.

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I think you are giving McCain too much credit. I believe the reason he didn't blast away at Obama to his face is because McCain is a coward.

McCain isn't ashamed of mixing it up, he is afraid to.

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McCain, for all his tough-guy bluster, is likely afraid of Obama himself. But I think he's even more afraid of what Obama could do to his cherished 'Maverick' persona if McCain was stupid enough to open himself up for the punch.

He knows in his heart that he's never faced an opponent who could thoroughly destroy him if he had a mind to, and that's why Ayers didn't come up last night.

I think it's more likely that they're trying to split the difference here. They want to maintain that McCain is waging an honorable campaign and hasn't gone back on his word. Having surrogates do your dirty work is how this is always done. But these attacks happen to be incredibly dirty. I understand why they want McCain to not say this stuff directly; it would instantly destory his brand. Right now we're getting a slow burn.

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I really don't think it was calculated or deliberate by the McCain camp at all. When it came time for John to stand up, look his opponent in the eye, and deliver a hard right to the face, he just didn't have the cojones to throw the punch. He was afraid of the counterpunch, and rightly so.

For all his bravado and bluster, McCain is a chickenshit.

Agree! Why do you think he became a fighter pilot, instead of -- say -- an infantryman. OK, so he came from a Navy family. Why not a front-line Marine, with fixed bayonet?

He wanted to do his work from 500 hundred feet up (or higher) in a fast plane.

Coward. But then he got shot down. Ooops.

Accounts of his behavior whilst a POW also echoes these sentiments. He begged with his captors for good treatment in exchange for his cooperation with divulging military intelligence.

They agreed and he kept his word, telling them all sorts of stuff that should've gotten him court marshalled.

I suspect you're right. O is very quick on the uptake, and if McCain were to start an attack, God only knows what would blow back on him. He's a frightened and desperate man, and he doesn't realize the game is over and it's time to go home.

Possibly, the reason that McCain didn't bring up Ayers in the debate is because he knows that the whole nation is watching. Negative attacks like that don't go over well with independents and are far too visible. In stump speeches, especially with Palin the attack dog uttering her hate speech, it gets noticed, but the crowd is so sympathetic that (they hope) it won't have the effect they know it would have on national TV.

I think it's also true that they know the attacks on Obama regarding Ayers are baseless, while attacks on both McCain (Keating, among others) and Palin (the Alaska Secessionist Party, her wacko church) are far more reasonable hits against them.

McCain needs to appear reasonable and "presidential" in debates. On the stump, he can be the nasty old man with his nasty young milf.

He's been getting a response from his more educated conservative base and it hasn't been positive. Plus, there have been media responses that these smear tactics are drastic measures for a failing campaign. So, essentially, it has backfired.

I'm sure McCain also got a nice scolding from the Secret Service.

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I think there are many level of reasons:

McCain is embarrassed to the degree a national politician who apologized for Keating 5 and then became the deregulator, who sought to reform campaign finance and then when fully engaged in a campaign sought not to follow his own law, the same person who railed against religious right after 2000's primary smear then went and sought to law in bed with them this time around, shall I continue?

No McCain is not embarrassed he is being tactical but not strategic, oh that is what a fighter pilot is, tactical----he knows that he cannot actually mouth the smear in public, or have his running mate on the same stage.

It is a tactic that is not working, and their playbook like the movie Jaws is running out of options, I think they are now going to lower a shark cage in the water and stick a 25 foot shark with a needle. That will work.

A campaign needs four things, a message (what is McCain, elect me?), money (cash to a degree they got but not enough), organization (well I know CO's and it ain't much), and credibility....well that they are missing.

Frankly, I think McCain was using Palin's charges as a trial balloon...if they stuck, and polls went up for him as a result, he'd start using the attacks himself. If the charges backfired, he could gracefully (in his mind) step away and have his people drop back, too.

Trial balloons...because he's losing and doesn't know how to stop it from happening....

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I like this theory. That's a fairly effective technique. I remember Bill Clinton used to rock that method on a regular basis. All sorts of various rumors would be floating around from various levels of his campaign, and then he'd take the most popular sounding one and run with it.

However, he was better at dropping the negative ones faster, before they got a chance to make him look bad for even thinking about it.

I was listening for it too. Maybe it's because McCain was standing next to her and maybe because his family was there too.

I guess next time she's on the trail on her own we'll find out.

Maybe, just maybe, after the Secret Service got involved and spoke to Politico about the "kill him" shout, the McCain campaign was informed to tone it down a bit with the hate speech.

Now, that's change you can believe in.

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I notice that Josh has a post up about that speech and the people yelling "traitor" when someone says Obama's full name - which is their new way of saying: "Goddamn it, people, he's black!"

Josh now thinks they are plants. I do too - it cannot happen that consistently without something being up -

We thought they were plants yesterday.

You're wrong, girl. It's "Godamned it, he's a Muslim, Arab, and black, and that makes him a terrorist."

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Josh now thinks they are plants. I do too - it cannot happen that consistently without something being up -

They might be plants, but I don't think they have to be. Since Palin didn't reprimand the first one, other yahoos may have decided that yelling "Traitor" is appropriate behavior.

If it could be proved they are plants, that would kill McCain's campaign completely. If they are orchestrated, he's playing a very dangerous game, in more ways than one.

They are firing up the pent-up hatred of their base. There may be plants, but there are plenty of rabid fans of hate and demonization out there. I mean, the Republican Convention itself was nearly that bad, and only a little prodding might have gotten them chanting "Terrorist!"

I think Palin, in particular, is doing her damndest to bring out the worst of our population - its intolerance, its anger and its overt or latent racism. Mostly, they are trying to whip of the "fear of the other," which is essentially what Hitler did with Jews. To me, it's not much different. Palin is drunk with power. She needs to be stopped and slapped hard with a dose of reality.

The real losers are all of us. We have to live in this country together, whoever wins on Nov. 4, and we already have too much intolerance, ignorance and cultural division. To whip up and encourage these basest and most tragic elements of our culture - of humanity - is beyond irresponsible. It is a slap in the face of our country and a despicable tactic that I hope backfires and sends both McCain and Palin packing - McCain into permanent retirement and Palin into moose-hunting obscurity.

But even if McCain loses, this damage, this incitement of riotous intolerance, will remain an open wound, and one that shouldn't have been intentionally opened.

Mob rule is not the definition of democracy. It is never for the good of the people.

This rings so true to me..

God, I'm so naive. I never even thought of that. Guess I'm too old and idealistic.

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I feel like Linda Blair in The Exorcist. My head is just spinning around trying to follow the McCain campaign's flips, flops, stops and starts.


Please tell me the media won't do the McCain's campaign job by endlessly discussing Ayers. Please.

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Seconded. I hope this is an end to it today.

There is no there there - we've already done this.

I hope they let it go and since there's not much story, I think they might.


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There is no there there...

Hey, cut it out!  I used to live in Oakland!

At least now there's an intermittent there there -- the part closest to Berkeley!

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Obama was pretty fierce on McCain today. It is interesting how Obama applies pressure. When polls are down and people want him to go after McCain, he is cool and collected. Then when the polls are up and you'd think he could coast more he goes for hard core political attacks.

My assumption is that they are doing this because it is part of their strategy: not burning through any goodwill when the polls are low, then burning some political capital when the polls are up in order to further define McCain.

In case you missed it here's a link to Thomas Friedman's article about Palin's patriotism remark that you might find interesting.

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Thanks. But like he said, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Um, why is McCain paling around with people who pal around with terrorists?

So let me get this straight, McCain...you think that Obama is dangerous to the country because he pals around with terrorists, but you're more than willing to tout the endorsement of someone who has a much, much deeper relationship to William Ayers than Obama?

Perhaps this is why they dropped the Ayers reference today. I'd like to see that get more traction. People don't even know that the board was for the charitable Annenburg foundation.

It's also possible that Palin dropped the reference today because unlike in the past few days, she's appearing jointly with McCain.
I know what you mean here, but really, does anyone believe that Palin is making any decision about anything having to do with the campaign right now? Talking Point. Betcha. Talking Point. Maverick.

palin: vision 20/12

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This is the silliest damned idea - I'm sorry, but it's just flat silly.

God - I heard for years that Bush would never leave - he'd always be in charge.

Wrong.

Then I heard Hillary was throwing the primary to set herself up for '12.

Wrong.

Sarah Palin? Come on - you only get to actually run for president if you first get a whole shitload of money and power behind you. She will never have either one. She's going to disappear as soon as this election is over.

dan quayle ran for president in 2000, anything can happen

Dan Quayle's presidential run was so poorly thought of that he left the race before he even got to the point of getting on any primary ballots. Basically, IIRC, the pros in the business ordered him to ... just go away. Nobody gave him any money, and the candidacy died at conception. Just because he was Veep, didn't give him any gravitas or standing to be President. As for Palin, she is less than Quayle.

From your mouth to God's ear.

I really hope you're right Tena, but I'm not so sure. She is the darling of the far right and they started pumping bundles into McCain's campaign when she got on the ticket. They will spend the next 4 years honing her image and training her and readying her. I think she does have her eye on 2012, whether she gets there or not I don't know.

Certainly some of the more moderate, less evangelical portion of the republican party doesn't like her right now but they may come around. Then there's the low info independents...

I say keep a close eye on her and hold her to all her errors, ethical issues, etc. Hopefully the Alaskan's that have become disillusioned will vote her out in two years. But I'm not holding my breath on that either.

McCain didn't go there either but I think he did preview the next meme.

He implied that Fannie and Freddie gave mortgages to, you know, those irresponsible people and that was the Democratic plan. So Obama will take your money and give it to those irresponsible people.

That is a distortion on about 5 different levels, the least of which is that it takes the Republican off the hook for the economic mess we are in. But it also hooks up with the old Nixonian theme of saying liberals just want to take your money and give it to, you know, those people.

The crowd at today's McCain rally clearly was hungry for red meat. They got a little bit but in future rallys I think they will be more tuned into Fannie and Freddie as the next code words for what they really want to hear.

If we're doing plants now, how about someone at the next repug rally shouting out, "What about Ayers?!" to force them to deal with it in public, instead of just sliming it around the press room.

Sarah doesn't mention Ayers? Oooh, you made my day. Let me run down the wine cellar, get the glasses ready...Oh wait, I hear someone calling "kill him."

Shoot, Sarah came close to becoming Gandhi today. I'm hopeful. May be tommorow. She does look cute with a 72 year old dick on forehead.

Please...26 more days and not a second more.

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"My fellow prisoners"?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYFm5kK4f1k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYFm5kK4f1k

Oops. Sorry for that.

Officially, he's losing it. But at least he's recognizing that Americans are right now POW (Prisoners of W.).

The sad part is what McWildman is saying.

The FUNNY part is to watch S Palin's face right afterward. She turns her head away toward her right, and you can almost see her thinking, "He didn't just say that, did he? And I'm the one they're keeping away from the press?"

Really funny!

Obama/Biden '08!!

By the way Greg, thank you for watching the McPalin horror show on our behalf. It means a lot a more than meets the eye.

The probability of a black president is starting to sink in on the right, and the extremists--the fat, stupid, bible thumping racists--are really fired up. It truly is time to quadruple Obama's secret service detail.

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I guess I'll have to live with Josh thinking I'm a dupe for doubting those hate-mongers were plants.

Was thinking the same thing. After recently seeing Obama (and McCain!) in person after their press conferences and interviews over the bailout deal a couple weeks back and thinking how easy it was for a crowd to spontaneously form and be that close to them:

It gives me the chills.

There was a robust and visible (not to mention the no so visible!) security element there but we were essentially random folks off the street and really not THAT far from the candidates...

This riling up of the racially charged lunatic fringe of our society is a very dangerous development. Beyond disgraceful. I'm not the most religious man in the world but I'm praying for the safety and well-being of the candidates a lot recently.

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HuffingtonPost.com

“On Wednesday morning, John McCain’s campaign released a list of 100 former ambassadors endorsing the GOP presidential nominee.

Second on the list, though her name is misspelled, is Leonore Annenberg, currently the president and chairman of the Annenberg Foundation and widow of ambassador and philanthropist Walter Annenberg. Ms. Annenberg was herself the “chief of protocol” at the State Department under President Reagan.

If the last name sounds familiar, it’s because it also graces the name of the Chicago education board where Barack Obama and William Ayers sat in the room six times together.

In recent days, the McCain-Palin ticket (and particularly Palin) has faulted Obama for having served on that board with Ayers, who was a founding member of the radical 60’s Weather Underground group when Obama was in grade school.

Since then, however, Ayers has been rehabilitated in Chicago society, carving out a niche in education circles. As a former Republican representative in Illinois told NPR on Monday, smearing Obama for his board association with Ayers is “nonsensical.”"

“It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier … It’s ridiculous,” Republican Rep. Diana Nelson said. “There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly.”

Andrew Sullivan posted this from an Israeli reader of The Dish, commenting on the fog of murderous madness that the hate speech and tactics of the Palin McCain is now rabbelrousing on the stump,,,, and what it inevitably leads to.

An Israeli reader writes:

Your post on "The Danger of Obama" immediately brought to mind what happened here in Israel in the period leading up to Yitzhak Rabin's assassination. Even allowing for the differences in political culture between the two countries, some of the sounds we're hearing in the public debate around the election have a haunting echo. Here no one would have thought it possible that an Israeli Jew would take the life of a high official. There's little doubt that the crescendo of demonization toward Rabin – including accusations of treason, flyers picturing Rabin as an SS officer – and the difficulty, in a society guaranteeing free speech, of 'civilizing' the public debate before it creates a fertile bed for actual violence, all helped create the context in which Rabin's murderer decided to take matters into his own hands.

I'd like to see which Republicans will denounce this turn towards demonization. And if there are no takers – maybe Joe Lieberman?

OT, but can someone in the media press McCain on what the hell he meant in this exchange last night about Social Security?

Brokaw: Sen. McCain, two years for a reform of entitlement programs?

McCain: Sure. Hey, I'll answer the question. Look -- look, it's not that hard to fix Social Security, Tom. It's just...

Brokaw: And Medicare.

McCain: ... tough decisions. I want to get to Medicare in a second.

Social Security is not that tough. We know what the problems are, my friends, and we know what the fixes are. We've got to sit down together across the table. It's been done before.

I saw it done with our -- our wonderful Ronald Reagan, a conservative from California, and the liberal Democrat Tip O'Neill from Massachusetts. That's what we need more of, and that's what I've done in Washington.

Sen. Obama has never taken on his party leaders on a single major issue. I've taken them on. I'm not too popular sometimes with my own party, much less his.

So Medicare, it's going to be a little tougher. It's going to be a little tougher because we're talking about very complex and difficult issues.

My friends, what we have to do with Medicare is have a commission, have the smartest people in America come together, come up with recommendations, and then, like the base-closing commission idea we had, then we should have Congress vote up or down.

Let's not let them fool with it anymore. There's too much special interests and too many lobbyists working there. So let's have -- and let's have the American people say, "Fix it for us."

It's just like everything else - fixing the economy, finding bin laden, finishing Iraq, finishing Afgahanistan - he knows how to do it. He's just not going to tell anyone how until he's elected.

What. That doesn't make sense to you? It makes perfect sense to me and all rest of my friends here at the funny farm.

I wonder if this is what Palin would sound like if she could speak in complete sentences?

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Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

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Ah, the joys of semi-obscure cultural references!

It's all parts of a puzzle that McCain is providing for undecideds to put together and portray Obama as they see him.

And Obama has not now or ever responded with a fully truthful, comprehensive and complete piture of who he is and the timeline of his life. As a virtual unknown he allows McCain to characterize him by virtue of his incomplete and dishonest autobiography.

McCain's portrayal Obama is no more disingenuous than Obama's portrayal of McCain. The difference is that McCain has a long public history for people to refer to. Obama has virtually none.

Riiight....

I'm sorry, you're wrong.

By virtue of the fact that the press *did* consider him such an unknown, Obama's life has been picked through with a fine-toothed comb. You know what they found? Nothing. You can claim that he's been "incomplete" and "dishonest" about his life, his past, his...whatever all you want, but that doesn't make it so.

I'd argue that the person we really don't know that much about--because the press won't go into his early life in detail--is McCain. If they were spending the kind of time on his irresponsible behavior on-board ship and during his days at the Naval Academy (not to mention his married life) as they have on issues like Ayers and Wright, McCain probably wouldn't have been nominated. But they're giving him a pass based on his longevity--in other words, because they've known him so long and they never bothered to broach the subject before--which says a lot more about the laziness and complicity of the press in this country than it does about the merits of McCain's life story. Any decent journalist would be wondering aloud, "What the hell was McCain even talking about in relation to half of what he said last night?" since it made no sense.

People believe what they want to believe. It's just that some have evidence for it, and some don't care if they do or not.

She dropped the reference to Ayers b/c McIIIrd was with her on the "stump."

What the hell do the remains of a tree have in common with politics? Someone please enlighten me.

Since you asked, the expression is quite literal.
Politicians campaigning in rural areas would deliver a speech standing on a sawed-off tree stump in order to be seen and heard by the crowd.
Since they were addressing small groups, they would use the identical speech over and over.
Modern politicians have a similar standard spiel, which they call their "stump speech."

McCain suffers a flashback, and is back in the Hanoi Hilton, or did someone in the audience draw a cross in the dirt that Sarah was preparing to sling.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGsn6kwK6g

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You just beat me to that -

"My fellow prisoners" - uh oh.

Flashback time.

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Your link doesn't work for me, but Josh now has the clip up on the front page.

His campaign will have to place catheters in those that attend so as not to see everyone pissing all over themselves every time he speaks. This will be the next MC commercial. Priceless indeed!

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Just reading "The Page" which is chock full of references to Cindy McCain and Sarah Palin attacking Obama.

Someone needs to tell John McCain to stop hiding behind the skirts of his wife and his running mate. He had his chance last night to accuse Obama of being a terrorist to his face, and he didn't do it.

If John McCain really thinks that Obama is a dishonorable scumbag and a terrorist sympathizer then - as the real American hero that he claims to be - he should have looked him and America in the eye and said it last night.

If he doesn't think Obama is a terrorist then he should stop letting the women in his life do his dirty work for him.

Seriously, Senator McCain, you are running for President of the United States. The job requires a lot of traits. One of them is courage. If you want to accuse Obama of being a liar and a terrorist sympathizer then at least man-up and have the honor and the cojones to tell him that yourself rather than letting Sarah Palin and your wife do it for you.

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The job requires a lot of traits. One of them is courage.

Yes, but requirements aren't always met.  See:  Dubya.

Any chance that there are any people in Latin America who suffered at the hands of the death squads supported by McCain's cozy little group of anti-communists? If McCain keeps it up I'd say those who suffered at the hands of Reagan and the death squads should be put front and center before the voting public. If McCain keeps opening and slamming the doors in his glass house, whichever one of the 7 it is, he's soon going to be needing a tent to sleep in.

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Contra terrorists.  I wonder why that phrase was never uttered.

I gave some $$ to Bill Bradley in the 2000 primaries.  My only reservation was his support for the Contras, though by then it had become a moot issue.

I'm sure McBatty would not appreciate the airing of his Contra-terrorist connections.

I actually wonder if they were advised by the Secret Service to cut the crap. When the 'kill him' thing first happened, I called the local Secret Service field office in Florida to report it. The mailbox was full, so I think it's safe to say I wasn't the only one.

The next day I saw a short news story that said they were looking into it. Maybe they had a word with the McCain camp?

They're all over the place for one simple reason: they have no cogent argument to make for their candidacy. So you just throw shit everywhere in hopes of making everyone smell the same.

Replaced with what, a flute recital???

Nobody has dealt with the Ayers issue better than Robert Gibbs did with Hannity!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/robert-gibbs-confronts-ha_n_132842.html


http://iowaindependent.com/6718/mccains-hail-mary-pass-in-iowa

Smears and lies are the only thing they have left. It's despicable that they are doing this, but I would at least appreciate it if they were as honest nationally as they seem to be in Iowa and just said "We're going to attack Obama's character in order to win."

Yea, sure, for the last two years there has been zero scrutiny of Obama's background. I mean, like nothing. We really don't know who he is do we? We don't know where he was born, or who is parents were, or anything like that. It's because the media is liberal and in on the conspiracy, dontcha know?

I mean, he could be some subversive sleeper agent from Al Qaeda, designed to take over the USA, you know? He's never denied it, plus some talk radio show hosts said it, so doggoneit, it must be true.

Exactly! How would Obama make it this far without this crap coming out less than a month before the election? If we can't baffle you with BS, then we'll try to scare you into thinking that our next President is a terrorist.

I'm voting for That One, my fellow prisoners.

Does anyone have a link to a comprehensive list of the supposed 'connections' between Obama and Ayers? (I'd like to be in a position to clarify and refute this claim when I hear it.)

Shouts of "socialist," "terrorist" and "liar" from supporters followed McCain's references to Obama at Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA.

The word "terrorist" is an intentionally distorted, woefully incomplete description of Bill Ayers.

Professor Ayers (he is Distinguished Professor of Education at U. of Illinois) has written many books on teaching and on education. I have bought and read three of those books and I've heard Professor Ayers speak on three different occasions. He has been tremendously inspiring to me, although I don't know him personally. In the late 1990s, WIlliam Ayers' books helped me make the decision to change careers, go back to college and become an elementary school teacher. His beautiful writing challenges teachers to be our best selves and reminds us of our power to help change lives.

Professor Ayers was named Chicago Citizen of the Year in 1997 because he had worked hard to successfully secure the city a $49 million Annenberg Foundation grant for public school reform. Citizen of the Year!

I do not pretend that Mr. Ayers was not involved with a violent group in the late 1960s, but I object to labeling him solely on the basis of what he did 40 years ago. The McCain campaign's attempts to caricature him, and to somehow make Obama guilty of something by virtue of association, are sure signs of desperation.

Maybe someone possibly McCain himself decided enough is enough in following Sean Hannity's lead!

I found it both somewhat funny and pathetic that even right after the debate last night someone from the RNC issued a statement which included a jab at Obama for his poor judgement in associating with am "UNREPENTANT TERRORIST"!

Hannity has been using that phrase probably 100 times a day on his shows and now Palin and many others in the McCain campaign are starting to heed Hannity's advice?????

Hannity interviewed McCain/Palin after the debate and talked "in depth" with them about Obama's associations with that "UNREPENTANT TERRORIST"! Should make for an entertaining watch.

Hannity is one of the reasons McCain is slipping in the polls, because of his daily hate filled diatribes. Why does McCain/Palin even feel the need to associate with him???

Hannity already believes he has the power to influence national affairs.

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Speaking of unrepentant terrorists, didn't McSame pal around with Ollie North?

Yeah, but that's old news.

Oh, wait...

Hannity. McCain. Palin. Limbaugh. They are leading a small group of nuts into the jungles of Guyana to drink the Kool-Aid. They know it's over and want to flame out in a blaze of glory.

American politicians like McCain are either very smart or the american voter is dumber than he can ever imagine. Ayers lived in another generation and though his acts were extreme, they were more in tune with the political climate of that time; the sins of his youth. But Ayers is not a leftist radical today, he has moved on, and still continues to repay his debt to society today, as an educator at the university of Illinois. McCain was an adulter back in the 60's; does that make him an adultere today. I beat kids up for fun in my school days, yet i abhor violence today. We have all done something we're not proud of. It's about doggone time someone reminded this 'party of christian values' about the fundamentals of such values, namely; "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Such hypocrites.

Why do all you figgots go to this blog thing. This internet phenomenon only gets press because of idiots like yourselves. Do you realize they don't actually write anything- they just post videos and press bites from other sites. Why don't you fat lazy hipsters take off your tight jeans and actually do some of your own research. Or go to my site: TalkingPointDouchebagNotes.com

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That's faggots.  We're faggots.

And I'm sure I do not speak solely for myself when I state that I am far too lazy to try to put tight jeans on my fat, hipster self. I just sit around in my figgoty, Cheetohs-covered bathrobe.

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What's a figgot?

It a gay spigot: both hot and cold water come out of it. :-)

Ha!

(I had no idea that this internets thing was a phenomenon....)

Actually i was referring to TPM as an internet phenomenon and not the internet itself. Maybe you should stop pleasuring yourself to TPM everyday and actually go to school and get an education.

It's possible that the people shouting epithets are plants, I guess, but I've got an extreme rightist in my family, and it sounds exactly like the kind of thing he says when he gets riled up.

Those of you who don't see this ugliness first-hand don't know how lucky you are.

McCain is dropping the Ayers reference because his hand has been caught in the 'associations' cookie jar.

Today John McCain's campaign released a list of 100 former ambassadors endorsing the GOP presidential nominee and believe it or not the second name on the list was Leonore Annenberg, who is currently the president and chairman of the Annenberg Foundation which is the name of the Chicago education board where McCain is accusing Barack Obama of having an 'association' with William Ayers. How's that for 'right back at you.'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/mccains-trumpets-endorsem_n_132954.html

Possible that Palin made no reference to the supposed Ayers association due to the geographic area she was in. Race-baiting and hate-mongering likely more effective in the South than in Bethlehem, PA (too close to Philly, Scranton, and New Jersey, and also Washington DC) where there are very large politically active black populations. Wait and see what she does when she gets back in the South or the West, or the known strongholds of neocons/neonazi's. And yes, PA DOES have one of the largest KKK populations in the nation, but they have by and large NOT seemed to be too keen on openly inciting civic unrest at this time. Perhaps Palin was warned off on being vocal about this issue in this state (e.g. don't expose the hate-mongering at this time) - what she does in Greensburg tomorrow (?) will be revealing. BTW - I live in PA. McCain/Palin aren't appearing anywhere near my home, and I am currently transportation challenged, otherwise I would be attending their rally with huge signs saying "Sarah Palin doesn't speak for me" and "McCain/Palin GO HOME."

McNasty just had no stomach with 50 million people watching - the slime bag.
He uses Palin as attack dog. Shameful using her this way. Her negatives are skyrocketing. She is a serious drag on the Repub ticket. She is an insult to women, and seems to relish her role.
She has taken things out of context and is determined to ruin a good man's character by inciting crowds of people to "kill him."

Sadly, if she wins, she would have re-divided this country with the wounds she has re-opened.
When will this end. McNasty and Sarah McLiar are not good for our country.

So...they ain't mentioning Ayers anymore?
Sooo....Senator Obama's counter-attack is effective?
Well...LIKE UH-DUH!!!
..like that was hard to figure out!

Carlos
"Realizing the Obama/Biden Faith for 08!"

Think they only sort of dropped Ayers. They can only use it so much before everyone knows what a crock it is to call Obama's minor association with him "palling" (or "pallin' if you're speaking Palin) around. They want to use it to fire up the faithful, arouse ire and put a question in the latent racist minds...and perhaps giving an excuse not to vote for Obama.

Don't quite get how Ayers is an issue when Palin, the Alaskan Independence Party or her witch hunting, dominionist pastor, Mccain & Keating or the racist, anti-semetic US Council for World Freedom are much more alarming.

Sort of off topic but did anyone see the remark
Carville made on CNN last night? Something like
"If Obama goes into the election with a 5% lead and loses I hate to think whats going to happen"
None of the other bobble heads would touch it..
Radioactive.. He even clarified it a bit... no takers..

Another member here posted the craiglist ad for a Sarah Palin lookalike for an adult film, but here's the apparent fruit. By Hustler of all companies.

I'm not sure if I should applaud or vomit.

"...the McCain campaign wants Ayers to be discussed in the press, but doesn't want McCain -- and now also Palin, perhaps -- associated with such a slimy attack at a time when voters want solutions to the economic crisis."

Sean Hannity's exclusive interview of McCain/Palin tonight (wasn't anybody watching?) pretty much demonstrates that the slime campaign is alive and well. McCain even moved the slime factor up a notch by bringing in Ayers' wife (Bernardine Dohrn). Just because they seem bewildered on the stump for a few hours after a bad debate performance doesn't mean they'll stop throwing meat to their most ardent supporters (and donors). What's their alternative?

When You Need an Attack, in the Neighborhood, Who’s McCain Gonna’ Call … William Ayers!
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3859

Mrs. Annenberg probably went ballistic when she heard how Palin was slandering the Annenberg Fund and the memory of her late husband, Ambassador Annenberg. McNasty probably realized if he hoped for further contibutions from her and her wealthy friends, his campaing had better drop tha attacks on the Foundation and its board.

As for the accusation that Ayers said that he wished he had set more bombs off 35 years ago, Ayers, now a Distinguished Professor of the University of Chicago, has made it quire clear that his statement was taken out of context by a reporter and that he was referring to wishing that he had done more to end the VietNam war. McCain-Palin know this, but continue their campain of McCarthyism; guilt by association.

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