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Did Palin Really Describe Some Parts Of The Country As "Pro-America"?
Check out this little nugget buried in a report about a fundraiser Sarah Palin spoke at last night:
Palin also made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the "pro-America" areas of the country, of which North Carolina is one. No word on which states she views as unpatriotic.
Context here is everything, of course. We're trying to get the full quote, and will keep you posted.
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Something tells me her criteria has something to do with color the state is on the electoral maps.
October 17, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
How the fuck would she know? Let's get real - she is the governor of a state so far removed from the rest of the states it might as well be a separate country and goddamn it - how many African Americans live in Alaska? Just how white is it?
I'm so sick of this goddamn bitch telling me and everyone else what "America" is - she has got not one clue.
October 17, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's dangerously stupid. Seems like you and I both need a Xanax.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
October 17, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. I'm sick and tired of her of her insulting my intelligence. As POP says over at C&L, "Evey time she opens her mouth, I feel a little smarter." That's paraphrasing, but it's spot on.
October 17, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/02000.html
October 20, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
mebbe she meant pro-zac amurika. you betcha.
October 17, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
That would sure fit Utah (my current residence)!
October 17, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's just the next generation's Phyllis Schlafly. She'll be just as "important" to the national conversation too. Relegated to b-roll red meat sound bites and racist secessionist separatist rants. Less than 3 months in the spotlight and she's already a has-been. I love it :-)
October 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
She can't even shine Phyllis Shafly's shoes - she's a 21st century Anita Bryant.
That's all she is.
October 17, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's Sarah Palin's "Amerikkka"
October 17, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
It says here that less than 4% of the population of AK is black. Only about 24,000.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/02000.html
October 17, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also doesn't begin to mention the term she calls Native American Eskimos. She calls them Arctic Arabs. That's nice of her also.
October 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
seriously, who gives a shit what she has to say anymore?
October 17, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama had said that..........
October 17, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
O my god - he would be pilloried if he said something even close to that.
That's such anti-American thing to say - she is a walking compendium of the worst excesses of the extreme Right Wing in this country.
October 17, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Remember bittergate?
I expect the same sort of coverage of this. Oh wait, Sarah's white.
October 17, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah is white, therefore she is not ungrateful when she says this shit.
You know what they said about Wright -he's "ungrateful" which is such a terribly racist thing to say - it's tantamount to saying, like Pat Buchanan did, that slavery is the best thing that ever happened to Africans because it turned them into African Americans.
That is so incredibly mind-blowingly offensive that I cannot believe that people actually say that in this day and time.
October 17, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I lived in Vermont for seven years. Considering the fact that Vermont's Junior Senator, Bernie Sanders, is the only out socialist in the Senate... I'd say Vermont probably isn't one of those "pro-America" states.
October 17, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
They speak French there too.
October 17, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oui, c'est vrai. ;)
October 17, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
By that logic she should have hated NH when she was here last week... northern parts of the state, a lot of people speak french at home (given that the closest city worthy of the name is in Quebec)
October 17, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not to mention Maine, who has two official state languages: English and French. They have official state documents in French up there.
October 17, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I was up that way a couple weeks ago (wedding). I had no idea that French was so important in parts of the US.
(I've belligerently argued before with people that English and Spanish were the only important languages in America, and then was disproved that conceit pretty quickly up there!)
October 17, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, Maine is officially the Scariest State in the Union since Stephen King officially resides there.
October 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
They're immune to irony.
October 17, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why do so many of our states hate America?
October 17, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why do Republicans hate America?
October 17, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Because there is nothing left to steal.
October 17, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I bet she thinks that NM is now one of the America-haters.
I know that it's a gaffe, but, jeez, what a stupid thing for Palin to say.
October 17, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, the Taos Valley pretty much hates Sarah, so it's mutual.
LOL!
October 17, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just ask Todd Palin where the America-haters are located! This might be the richest nugget of irony in the whole Palin drama....she visits "pro-America" but she's married to a SECESSIONIST. Alaska First, indeed...
October 17, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin's speech is dangerous speech.
October 17, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I live in Ohio and we're only sorta "pro-America". Where I am in Cleveland, we hate America. Boy, we just can't stand it which is why we vote Dem all the time. Former President Clinton was in town yesterday and gave some of the usual pol-speak about loving America. Then he winked and we all had a hearty laugh.
October 17, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
"America" and "USA-USA-USA" are short hand phrases for an ominous element in the body politic. She could hardly say pro-fascist, or pro-racist, or even pro-narrow*minded-insular-xenophobic-self*destructive-idiotic-materialistic-exceptionalistic-fundamentalist-illogical-violent-reactionary-non*civil-inhumane-jingoistic-chauvinistic-incoherent-pseudoscientific now could she?
October 17, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm pretty sure she can't even define most of those words.
October 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
That about covers it . . .
October 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have had it with these republifucks telling me I'm not patriotic because of what church I don't go to or who I want to vote for. They try to tell me I'm not pro-American because of where I live. They tell me I'm un-American because my soulmate is another man. Fuck them! I pay my taxes. I write software for the military for God's sake! If they'd stop trying to tell me my business long enough to see that the country is falling to pieces around them maybe they could contribute to the solution instead of frothing off about how who I want to marry is somehow going to destroy their kingdom.
Feh! Bitches!
October 17, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Word up.
October 17, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Truly righteous.
October 17, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
ClosetLuddite for Pres in 2016!
(And I don't give a fuck who his "First Lady" is ...)
October 17, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that she is referring to areas with hardworking white americans, no?
October 17, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's trying to make her stupid joke about taxes and patriotism, and she fails.
October 17, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Given her associations, going to a "pro-America" state would be quite a change for her.
But regardless of the context, this is reason #4306 why she is unqualified, AT BEST for what she's doing. There is never a reason to utter such tripe--never. Words have consequences.
She is nasty, vindictive and common, and I can't wait until we send her back to frying up mooseburgers.
October 17, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
You make me laugh. I can just hear that great political philosopher, Hyacinth Bucket saying of Palin:
"The woman is so *common*."
October 17, 2008 12:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
You make me laugh. I can just hear that great political philosopher, Hyacinth Bucket saying of Palin:
"The woman is so *common*."
October 17, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking as a citizen and resident of a Pro-America state, I would tend to nominate states where the governor doesn't kow-tow to (or marry) secessionists for the "Pro-America state" award.
October 17, 2008 11:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh my God! Why are we talking about all this trivial shit when Britney Spears didn't show up for her trial! Oh my god! Oh my god!!
October 17, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
We're basically un-American!
October 17, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama should pound on that comment...Palin seccesionist attitude is pretty glowing. I guess PA, NH, NY, CA are all anti-American.
October 17, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also, as Andrew Sullivan, Jon Stewart and others have pointed out, Joe the plumber has had more press conferences than Sarah Palin.
October 17, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Without even being a plumber . . .
October 17, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Nice to know the mcFailin campaign actually assists the Vendetta Twins in remaining in their alternate universe. Can't let them be depressed and see or read the truth. Nope, gotta help them stay delusional.
A campaign that promotes delusions! Now I've heard everything.
October 17, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess we'll see which areas of the country are "pro-America" come Nov. 5th. Hey, maybe they will secede from the rest, eh Todd?
October 17, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh Sarah. We don't hate America. We don't even hate you. We just hate your laziness and your adherence to an evil ideology that seeks to belittle and enslave all that makes us human.
Although, your phony accent really needs to go away too. Yup, yup. Also.
October 17, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
I love that comment. I really love it -
October 17, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's another example of the right-wing nuts overreacting.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_10/015233.php
"OHIO'S STATE FLAG IS NOT OBAMA'S FAULT.... Barack Obama gave a speech in Toledo, Ohio, the other day, and behind his podium were several American and Ohioan flags. Not exactly newsworthy stuff.
The problem is, Ohio's flag features a prominent, large "O." Obama's right-wing detractors didn't know this, and assumed that the Obama campaign had created its own flag to stand alongside the American flag. Conservative activists and talk-show hosts had a bit of a freak-out. Here's a hilarious example.
On the October 15 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Bob Grant said: "[W]hat is that flag that Obama's been standing in front of that looks like an American flag, but instead of having the field of 50 stars representing the 50 states, there's a circle?" He then said: "Is the circle the 'O' for Obama? Is that what it is?" Grant later said: "[D]id you notice Obama is not content with just having several American flags, plain old American flags with the 50 states represented by 50 stars? He has the 'O' flag. And that's what that 'O' is. That's what that 'O' is."
John Cole also noted a Townhall commenter who was outraged that Obama would "change" the American flag: "I don't want to hear any looney left comments that they are only decoration. They ARE a modification of the American flag."
Here's the Ohio state flag, and here's Obama standing in front of Ohio's state flag.
Sometimes, the right finds the strangest things to get worked up about."
Hilarious!
October 17, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hear he also plans to change the name of the country to "The United States of Obama"
October 17, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
And this will be the new national anthem by Lil Wayne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEJl0BQ2mUs
October 17, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well I still like Swagga, but I'll take this!
October 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
As usual, that's a totally garbled version of the real story. It's going to be Hussein's States of Obama.
October 17, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
ZOMG! Thank you. I love starting the day with a laugh!
And I, Ohio born and raised, always thought the Ohio flag was kind of subversive just because it wasn't a rectangle. Now I see that was just the beginning of its radical, subversive roots!
October 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
If y'all don't show proper respect for my state's flag we may have to secede from the union. Don't make my state hate America.
October 17, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's comments like these that will doom any candidacy in 2012. Keep talking this, Sarah, you idzit!
October 17, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Idzit. I like it. A superinflamed id, spewing its discharge everywhere.
Describes her well.
October 17, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Must not read TPM at lunchtime, must not read TPM....
October 17, 2008 12:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm guessing her response will be "Whichever four square feet Obama is standing on!" *wink, smile, bizarre reference to teachers and the after-life*
October 17, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
She really is Commander CooCoo Bananas with tits:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/17/palins-staffers-keep-her_n_135551.html
October 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
AP/Yahoo's post-debate poll, released just now:
"Since September, McCain has lost ground on nearly every quality tested in the poll, including lower scores for being likable, decisive, honest, competent, intelligent and inspiring.
"Following debates between the two rivals in which the Arizona senator has appeared angry at times, 46 percent consider him hot-tempered, more than triple the 13 percent who say so about Obama.
"Obama also has a 56 percent to 41 percent advantage for understanding how the financial crisis affects people. Unhappily for McCain, six in 10 voters who may still change their minds, about as many independents and even one in 10 McCain backers prefer Obama on that question.
"The Illinois senator is trusted more than McCain to improve the economy by 54 percent to 44 percent...
"A month ago, more people said the Alaska governor made them more likely to vote for McCain than less likely by 14 percentage points. That gap is now down to 3 points - even as growing numbers say her Democratic counterpart, Joe Biden, makes them more inclined to support Obama."
October 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Funny how she twice mentioned her handlers, and how they won't let her do what she wants. Maybe this was a little gift to them? I'm sure they all hate her by now.
By the way, somebody should turn this into an ad. Maybe a pro-Obama veterans group would be a good candidate?
October 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
SO DISRESPECTFUL! (yes, I'm yelling).
October 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ignoring Palin keeps the emphasis on angry Grampy. No need to remind voters about the friendly, folksy, (wacko) Palin.
October 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
In her politically incestuous crowd up in Alaska, "pro-America" is a bad thing, right? So maybe she was giving everyone a backhanded compliment.
October 17, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question is, why does she hate parts of America so much??
I think Palin and the GOP hate great American states and cities -- like NYC and Mass., Vermont, and SF, LA, Seattle etc... -- for their freedom.
And irony of ironies, as a Republican, she sides wih those "pro-American" states which fought a war to destroy the Union. Republicans, once the party of Lincoln, now are running for President of the Confederacy.
October 17, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excuse me - she is not a southerner. As such, she does not represent the south. She knows nothing about it - Alaska could not possibly be further removed in every way from the southern United States.
Do not blame Palin on us just cause you think she thinks we are "her people."
We're not.
October 17, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not talking about reality. I'm talking about Palin's bizarre hate-scape.
You and I both know which part of America she is trying to paint herself as part of.
The "good guys": Red states - the South and MidWest. Those are the "good guys" she's talking about.
The bad guys: The Coasts, New England, blue states, all major cities. And unfortunately for Tacoma, they'd probably be include in the godless latte-sipping prius drivers, just by proximity.
Historically, tho, it is interesting that the GOP originally got its patriotic cred entirely by saving the Union from the not-so-pro-American states-righters down South. Now it's become the party of the South, dominated by Washington-haters.
October 17, 2008 3:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
by the way - Seattle, WA has the most homeless people living on it's streets I've seen in any city anywhere.
And Tacoma is the most redneck place I've ever been.
October 17, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's because she doesn't get to visit "pro-America" states very often, since she's governor of a "pro-Alaska" state.
October 17, 2008 1:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I heard her speech in NH on MSNBC and I heard her talk about all of the MA transplants in NH escaping MA over high taxes. It is known that the Repubs in NH hate the transplants because they have made NH lean left more often. It is something that I think was missed by the NH media.
October 17, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
FWIW, Alaska is about 3.7% Afro-Caribbean-American (sorry, if I leave out the middle term, my cousins go ballistic). Most came courtesy of the US Air Force which has a couple of big bases (there are also Navy and Coast Guard installations). Anyway, the servicepeople and their dependents count towards that percentage, and quite a few have retired to the areas around the bases. Walk down the street in Juneau or Anchorage or certainly Wasilla, the view will be very white (since the Native Alaskans are not dark skinned).
October 17, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink