Obama Plays Hothead Card
Obama, in response to McCain's criticism of his declaration that he'd pursue Bin Laden into Pakistan, plays the hothead card by pointing to the "bomb bomb bomb Iran" moment, in what seemed like a response Obama had prepared in advance:
Now, Senator suggests that somehow I'm green behind the ears, and I'm just spouting off, and he's somber and responsible.Senator McCain, this is the guy who sang "bomb bomb bomb Iran." Who called for the annihilation of North Korea. That I don't think is an example of speaking softly. This is the guy who after we had -- we hadn't even finished Afghanistan -- he said, "next up Baghdad."
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FIRST! OBAMA IS WINNING! YES!
October 7, 2008 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain lost worst then he did last time.
October 7, 2008 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, everyone in the media is going to call this another draw for a day or two, but Obama's poll numbers are going to move up even more, and they'll be forced to admit Obama is just beating "this one's" ass.
October 7, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, that moment of Obama's is when I declared him my own personal winner of this debate.
Wow!!!! He's so damn fab.
October 7, 2008 10:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know that old saw about matching wits against an unarmed opponent? That's what this debate is making me think of right now.
McCain=pwned.
October 7, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg - you're killing me.
October 7, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes or No on a question like is a country Evil.
What kind of question is that?
Stupid bastard.
October 7, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Stupid question.
October 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain laughed! Disgusting!
October 7, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
He just keeps repeating what Obama just said - it's fucking eerie at this point!
October 7, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
His bet now is to fool as many people as possible that there would be no difference policy-wise between the two, then people will vote for the old white guy over the young black guy.
It's a crap bet, and he can't even pretend to stand up on issues alone, but it's all he has left.
October 7, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Is Russia an Evil Empire?"
Tom, are you retarded?
October 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uhhhh, yeah?
October 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was a moment where, if the two candidates didn't loathe each other, they would've laughed together at the thought of a one word answer to that question.
October 7, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Possibly. I'd say Obama would have laughed at the question, McCain would've resolutely answered 'yes, let's git 'em'.
October 7, 2008 11:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
McSame: Cool hand at the tiller?
Hooooo Heeeee!
October 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Repeating but making no damn sense because he buries it under a mountain of b.s and sleaze.
October 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here we go, pre-conditions. Beat it to death why don't you.
October 7, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
God almighty - all he does is repeat Obama and then tell the same fucking lies that have been debunked 50 times - he's such an old man yelling at clouds!
October 7, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Get off my lawn you damn clouds!"
Which brings up the question: What is Cindy's problem?
October 7, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brokaw is a dick.
October 7, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think he has been pretty decent actually.
October 7, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
He can't help it. The poor guy never found a way to get off the tireswing.
October 7, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Preconditions. Worked so well in the last debate. Are his prep people retarded or what?
October 7, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
BO is in cruise control.
October 7, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, he's got all the answers to this test. Killing on the charts on this segment, too.
October 7, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
That military guy seems like a plant.
Gee, how many "undecided voters" are military guys obsessed with the fate of the Jews!
October 7, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought so too, but Obama's answer is SO great !!!
October 7, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, that UN Security Council reference was a red flag that the question was a plant. The right-wing foam-at-the-mouthers loathe the UN.
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama gives great eye contact - he's killing this audience.
This is beautiful.
I loathe Tom Brokaw and want to see him humiliated publicly.
October 7, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's really not helping the atmosphere of this debate. The candidates already hate each other - getting told to wrap it up just annoyed them further.
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tom McBrokaw - Maverick Journalist
October 7, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Someday I'll be just like him.
October 7, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so glad the media has played up the townhall debate as McLame's strength because he looks absolutely horrible there. If this is his strong suit, we've been sorely mislead. Obama just looks so damn cool and comfortable in this setting.
BTW, I wanted to say that someone on that stage looks like a stinking corpse right now. But I won't.
October 7, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zen like???? Okay, he is a dick.
October 7, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please do not insult penis in such a manner my friend.
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
ohhhh...interesting last question...
October 7, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm so sick of hearing McCain saying "My friends".
October 7, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why does he not recognize it makes him sound like a used car salesman? It's smarmy hucksterism.
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
20 times according to my count. Ugh!
Sarah Palin = Wasilla Chihuahua
October 8, 2008 8:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
What don't you know and how will you learn it -
He's so good at this shit.
October 7, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
He nailed it.
My guess, McCain will not so much.
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The self-depreciating humor with Michelle is good
October 7, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Schmoopy moment here, but I am so impressed, amazed and happy right now, I might burst with happiness.
What an amazing man.
October 7, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michelle is in the house!
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love how Mccain is always writing when Obama talks: "Shit, this is good stuff..."
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
quite obviously so.
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, was he doing that throughout? I put my son to bed at 9:00, and he doesn't fall asleep right away, so I haven't yet had the chance to watch a single debate all the way through.
So the only time I saw McCain write was when Brokaw asked him to prioritize those three items....I thought he genuinely couldn't keep track of what they were.
October 7, 2008 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG, Obama is dropping his "g", Palin is rubbing off on America.
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, if you say OMG, and you drop the G, then it takes on a zen-like quality....
...OM...
October 7, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sheesh...
"Senator Obama, define the universe. Give two examples."
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROTFLMAO!
October 7, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did Obama just say Michelle is in New Hampshire while she's in the audience? I can just see people picking up on that.
October 7, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, he was pointing her out in the audience.
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
No he said "Michelle is up there" as in the audience.
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I kind of missed it if he said that.
October 7, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a dumb question... "what don't you know"
That's like the question during employment interviews "What is your weakest quality"
To which people reply "I'm way too organized, and often sacrifice my personal life for my job."
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reminded me of Dumsfeld's "unknown unknowns" gibberish.
October 8, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pet pev of mine, IRAN WOULD NOT NUKE IRAN, IRAN WOULD NOT GIVE TERRORIST A NUKE. GAH, Iran = Muslim country, yes? Israel is home of very important Muslim holy sites, why the hell would Iran nuke Israel. They wouldn't gain anything out of it, they know if it happen then they would die in the counterattack and they don't want to blow up holy sites. What Iran's more extremist group wants is the people in Israel to leave the area and have Muslim's in control of the land. Blow Israel off the map = Israel the country not Israel the land.
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Iran would not nuke Israel*
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
you're right.
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is really hitting hard on pocketbook issues. = Perfect
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama kinda ducked the question a bit, but I get the feeling that the question wasn't really aimed at him anyway.
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its a stupid question for a debate in the first place.
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
The question of this election; Are we going to pass on the American Dream to the next generation?
YES!
October 7, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
"our generation" wow, he is off several generations from a lot of voters........
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is following the big O and not going there!
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Best phrase of the night (paraphrase):
We've got to have the courage and the nerve to choose a new direction.
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is one thing. If Obama is elected (please, please, please) I'd like to see him carry about 15 or 20 more lbs. He's a bit skinny for a President.
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just a thought: Doesn't McCain's gloves-back-on demeanor at the debate make the weekend character attacks look a little foolish? If Obama is truly the dangerous bogeyman that McCain claims, how come he doesn't say those things at the debate. If he goes back out there and starts the smears again, he looks like a two-faced coward.
October 7, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looks like?!?
October 8, 2008 12:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
just like the dem. debates in february.
October 8, 2008 2:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, you're right. Though McIIIrd did refer to Obama as "That One"!
John McCain - all the fresh ideas of a dried prune.
October 8, 2008 8:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I kinda wish he would have said that he has a curious and inquisitivenes but his answer was good about the Presidency...
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here come POW POW POW
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I don't know what the unexpected will be."
Deep, man.
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"we hardly know where they are on a map..."
You mean like your Vice President, Senator?
October 7, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's the POW card we were waiting for!
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
NH is not a contested state, as well...
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain' "What I don't know, I don't know."
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like I don't know where my character is. Or my soul. I don't know!
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
The knowable unknowns. Now where have I heard that before?
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like no matter where you go you are there?
October 7, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh dear...moment of overload. I'm ripping my new boxset of John Adams for my iPhone and took a moment to watch the scenes from the second continental congress. The thoughts in my head now defy posting.
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL! I'm sure their debates were a little more gripping...
October 7, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Talking about countries some of us can't find on a map?
The jokes write themselves.
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!!!
October 7, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
The winner tonight, by unanimous decision:
Senator Barack Obama of Illinois!
The next president of the USA!
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jadakiss - The Champ Is Here
October 7, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who began this journey in Springfield..
October 7, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its over, BO won.
Its pundit time.
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's comment is sooooo prepared.
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck you Tom Brokaw you total dick!
October 7, 2008 10:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thats commentary you can believe in my friend. Tom McBrokaw is a bitch.
October 7, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go Big Kahuna!
October 7, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
im waiting for mccain's ARm to fall off while shaking with someone
October 7, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, Brokaw just revealed himself to be a vapid talkinghead who can't function without a script.
Who knew.
October 7, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
My world was just shattered. The next thing you know, they'll be saying that Cheney was the one in control.
October 7, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, no Ayers, no Wright, no Keating! Astonishing!
October 7, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
All bluster, no acton. He wimps out on his "taking off the gloves"
October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
George Steph. just said that Obama will likely be viewed as the winner.
October 7, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooooo McCain just refused to shake Obama's hand
October 7, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
You kid..?
October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nevermind. Damn. He's such a child...
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck you daddy, no...I mean Fuck you Barack.
October 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Once again, Barack is the Top Dog.
October 7, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
David Brooks just gave the edge to McCain.
October 7, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shocking
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoops! I mean Brooks just gave the edge to OBAMA!!!
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, now that really surprises me! I just posted that Brooks is a tool for the Repubs, which he is. If he thinks Obama won it, that's huge.
October 7, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gots a linky, peaches?
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Never mind, peaches.
Now I'm with ya.
Bobo is trying so hard to no longer be a bobo -
Ain't life grand?
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh what a surprise. Not. Brooks is a tool and a shill for the Repubs.
October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain hates Obama guts. He didn't shook his hand.
What a fucking douche!
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain hates losing--no way is he going to shake the hand of the victor...why that would take character.
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Schmoopy moment here, but I am so impressed, amazed and happy right now, I might burst with happiness.
What an amazing man.
Yes, yes, yes.
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Holy shit! CNN just called out McCain on his "disdain" for Obama!
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
{{{{{{{SWOON}}}}}}}}}}
October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woot.
October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wolf Blitzer, specifically. I was surprised by that.
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think this is even close -- a clearer win for Obama than Round 1, IMO.
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tom Brokaw was a fucking tool.
Go back to your Montana ranch and eat a dick, Tom!
October 7, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's uncalled for. Really. You should use the word "penis" instead.
October 7, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zing! Will you be here all week? lol
October 7, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
One gay poster to another...not a cool choice of words
October 7, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
He didn't shook his hand.
I hope that does not go unnoticed.
October 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, they were shaking hands when Brokaw asked them to get out of the way of his teleprompter.
October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok I jsut got into my work tent here in Afghanistan please tell me our man won
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
looked good to me.
October 7, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Big O WON!
October 7, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
O yeah -
October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gergen: Obama won!
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
David Brooks is a big silly goose.
October 7, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was fab, tonight. He was engaged, serious and passionate. He was completely there. McLame was behaving like a concern troll -- my friends, I care, and am very concerned.
McCain is an angry, lying, assacious, fuckwit.
October 7, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
>Holy shit! CNN just called out McCain on his "disdain" for Obama!
Seriously?
October 7, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michael Gershin (Bushie) is spinning on PBS. Why so many righties on PBS nowadays?? The GOP hates PBS.
October 7, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
So much that they cut the funding and inffitrate. Will certainly change Jan. 21st!
October 7, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
God I love watching this man work this crowd - this is why I love C-Span.
they are showing Obama and Michelle work the crowd and god - white men in that audience are like in love with this guy -
October 7, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely. I'm a proud democrat and yet again a proud Barack Obama supporter.
October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know, I can finally breathe! Goddammit, what a job by Obama!
October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't need to be a scientist to figure out:Obama Won Hands Down. Easiest call so far. He was head and shoulders above McCain.
Great night for Obama and us supporters. (Incidentally, I cannot recall one guy giving so many great nights to his supporters.)
Roll the polls.
October 7, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, yes! It was not even close!
October 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I particiapated in a shot drinking contest based on McCain saying "my Friends," I'd already be dead with alcohol poisoning!
October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even the Repugs are bailing
October 7, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Bennett: McCain wasn't good enough!
October 7, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
So he won! Very, very cool
October 7, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
When Obama mentioned his mother's death while answering the health care question, the debate ended...
October 7, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's just Obama and Michelle - the McLames left and the Obamas are meeting every single person there and shaking hands, hugging and letting them take their picture.
October 7, 2008 10:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey its late, McCain didn't want to fall asleep handshaking people.
October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
(((SWOON ))
That the shit right there.
Bob Wills would be proud. He always said, "Boys, you shake every hand and sign every autograph casue these are the real folks who puts here".
October 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gotta love a Bob Wills reference!
October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ahh, haaaaa! There's a reason why he had such an obsessive dedicated fan base all those years...
October 7, 2008 11:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aaah haa! Yeeeaahh!! Now there's a ringtone for you.
October 7, 2008 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate ringtones but for Bob? "Ahh, haaaaa, Take it away Leonnnnnn....." Yes. Thanks!
I'm such a dork...
October 7, 2008 11:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I only thought of it because of that commercial for Flavor Flav ringtones. "Yo! Pick up the phone, boyyyyyy!" Bob's vocal stylings always made me think of him as the Flavor Flav of western swing.
October 7, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good god, I hate it when people say:
"I think the winner was the American people."
October 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow! The republican talking heads on CNN are giving it to Obama! Even Bill Bennett!
October 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know.
I made a conscious decision to NOT hear Buchanan try to feed me the wingnut cheerleading BS like: "John McCain hit it out of the park."
I too tuned into CNN, and saw intellectual honesty.
Whoda thunk it?
October 7, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is beyond awesome, guys.
October 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
The tide has officially turned.
October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
A tide? It's becoming a tsunami!
October 7, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Praise the Lord/Allah/Buddah/deity(ies)!!
October 7, 2008 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unreal - y'all wouldn't believe - the McLames walked out and left the Obamas the room and it's such a love fest!
October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It'a All Over, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom!
October 7, 2008 10:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
What the hell is going on here? Pat Buchanan is calling it for Obama and praising him?
October 7, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say whaaaat?
October 7, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
No fucking way!
October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Basically what happened is this.
McCain fell into a pail of tits and came out sucking his thumb.
October 7, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
hell has frozen over
October 7, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
McSame: uh... uh... abridge their behavior.
October 7, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I knew he'd do good. Obama is a total professional. He comes prepared.
October 7, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's got to leave before he blows his stack.
His tone throughout the debate was seriously creepy. He had this menacing whisper combined with a "duh, I can't believe you're making me explain this tone" that set off warning bells. That's the tone of an abusive bully right before he flips out.
October 7, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Serious question, did McCain ONCE say middle class americans?
October 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
No.
October 7, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I take that back. Buchanan said Obama lost it on points. What the fuck does he know anyway?
October 7, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Poll: Who fared better in Tuesday's presidential debate?
http://www.cnn.com/
October 7, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you. Lower right hand peeps.
October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is beyond awesome, guys
Could seven years of Bizarro world and political depression realy be at the beginning of its end?
This is wonderful!
October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, I think the vibe is very good. McCain missed his opportunity. The consensus is building that Obama won.
October 7, 2008 10:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel so good about this debate. I was a bit surprised how the polls so resoundingly gave the first one to Obama. But this one was so obviously a winner for my guy Obama. I'm feelin' great!
October 7, 2008 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
C-SPAN is still rolling. Barack and Michelle are still in the studio talking with the voters and shaking hands. It's now 10:50. John McCain took off a good 15 minutes ago. Whatever he may have done during the debate, he lost it with this group. Now they're taking group photos with Obama.
October 7, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can you believe it? The just left the room to them and Obama and his wife are still down there answering questions and shaking hands.
October 7, 2008 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That is so awesome. This guy just oozes presidentiality. (I know that's not a word.)
October 7, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, group photo op... how wonderful is that! Who is Obama? He is one of us in the real sense of the word!
October 7, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think its over now after Mccain's that one comment meaning Obama and he never shock Obama's hand when it was offered Cindy did but he never did but calling Obama that one has ended it that will be the moment to remember for years right there
October 7, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. There's your looking at the watch moment, right there.
October 7, 2008 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I think it will stick: "That one"
It's snide.
October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
All over the web, and I commented on it when he said "that one", I thought it was horrible, made me cringe. That will be tomorrow's headline, and the handshake I think.
October 7, 2008 11:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
haha.
MSNBC totally stole CNN's opinion graph and undecided focus group idea.
October 7, 2008 10:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
What do they say?
October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not like that is anything new.
October 7, 2008 10:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course. But they hadn't done it the last two debates.
They said Obama won but in general the INDs LOVED him.
October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Norah O'Donnell is so hot.
October 7, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
McSame: What I don't know is what the unexpected will be...
October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
On the hothead issue, and the vileness of the recent McCain dive into the hog wallow,,, from Andrew Sullivan:
An Israeli reader writes:
Your post on "The Danger of Obama" immediately brought to mind what happened here in Israel in the period leading up to Yitzhak Rabin's assassination. Even allowing for the differences in political culture between the two countries, some of the sounds we're hearing in the public debate around the election have a haunting echo. Here no one would have thought it possible that an Israeli Jew would take the life of a high official. There's little doubt that the crescendo of demonization toward Rabin – including accusations of treason, flyers picturing Rabin as an SS officer – and the difficulty, in a society guaranteeing free speech, of 'civilizing' the public debate before it creates a fertile bed for actual violence, all helped create the context in which Rabin's murderer decided to take matters into his own hands.
I'd like to see which Republicans will denounce this turn towards demonization. And if there are no takers – maybe Joe Lieberman?
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October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I read that at Sully's. Thanks for posting-important info...
October 7, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who did the better job connecting with the crowd?
John McCain 2,476 votes
Barack Obama 17,180 votes
http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2008/10/07/1966479-who-did-the-better-job-connecting-with-the-crowd
October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks again!
October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sweet jesus -
October 7, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Question: did anyone see McCain refuse to shake Obama's hand? I could swear that was what happened and a few other people I was talking with saw it too, but none of the talking heads are mentioning it on TV. Did y'all see that or did I just misconstrue it?
Because if I wasn't hallucinating, that plus calling Obama "that one" smacks of the worst kind of racism imaginable.
October 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
He moved away from Obama, but I really do not think that he saw Obama going for the handshake. McCain would not be so politically dumb as to recoil from a handshake.
October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not so sure. You'd think he wouldn't be politically dumb enough to call Obama "that one", either.
October 7, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is not politically dumb enough to call Obama "that one". But, he is old enough.
October 7, 2008 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Front page
October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw it and didn't think it looked deliberate. More of an awkward moment. I could be wrong, though. Josh is putting video on the front page shortly.
October 7, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Looked at the video, I don't think John saw the hand from Obama. McCain nodded at him and then presented his wife, far from a blow off.
October 7, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The (attack) dog that didn't bark in the night?
October 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Debate summary: Beat down.
October 7, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "That one" line is the talk of the web.
That will become a huge problem for McCain.
October 7, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
The handshake snub is too.
Sorry, but the handshake is a sign of sportsmanship. It's pathetic that McCain can't follow basic rules of society.
October 7, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's still spendingt time at the center, with the audience. I think O' knows he has won. He looks so confident.
October 7, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read that Barack and Michelle even posed for a group picture with the remaining audience members...
October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
One drunk to another, Mike Murphy is LIT UP!
October 7, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sullivan's got the "That one" video up. It looks just as bad as it sounded.
But wouldn't it be cool to mash that clip up with one of McSame's "enough finger pointing" soundbites?
October 7, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love this man so much - that last moment with the older white guy as they finally getting Obama out of there as just awesome!
C-Span totally rocks. I just don't listen to the phone calls.
October 7, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cindy did (shake Obama's hand) but he never did
And Obama just let the card with her phone # drop to the floor. She'll never forgive him for that.
October 7, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't care what the "justifications" are, there's NO EXCUSE. (Well, it is *McCain* after all)
October 7, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zing!
October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder why I wasn't included in the Columbus group at Ohio State on CNN....
October 7, 2008 10:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
you're not exactly undecided
October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh well....
October 7, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Book it!
October 7, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope you aren't tiring of that...
I guess it is getting old...like McCain.
October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
NOTHING is that old.
October 7, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrew Sullivan below:
10.33 pm. This was, I think, a mauling: a devastating and possibly electorally fatal debate for McCain. Even on Russia, he sounded a little out of it. I've watched a lot of debates and participated in many. I love debate and was trained as a boy in the British system to be a debater. I debated dozens of times at Oxofrd. All I can say is that, simply on terms of substance, clarity, empathy, style and authority, this has not just been an Obama victory. It has been a wipe-out.It has been about as big a wipe-out as I can remember in a presidential debate. It reminds me of the 1992 Clinton-Perot-Bush debate. I don't really see how the McCain campaign survives this.
October 7, 2008 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to agree with the sentiment. Obama was very strong tonight. McCain wasn't bad really, but Obama was on another level.
October 7, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tweety is such a twit.
October 7, 2008 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN's Campbell Brown and Jeffery Tubin hate each other.
October 7, 2008 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
So who do they think won?
October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
Memo to CNN: For the next debate, bring Cafferty!
October 7, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
if Cafferty shows up he will be kicking ass and taking names.
October 7, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word. He's the man!
October 7, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is where the momentum becomes, as Tom Petty says, "unstoppable"!
October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The video looks like McCain taped Obama on the back and then Obama went for the handshake and McCain pointed to his wife then he gave her a handshake and McCain backed off.
October 7, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I agree. McCain turned away and Obama knows the deal...
"Pistols at dawn"
October 7, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama was fine. Much better than last time. McCain looks like he's ready to blow a gasket. Obama extends his lead.
October 7, 2008 11:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
All I can say is that, simply on terms of substance, clarity, empathy, style and authority, this has not just been an Obama victory. It has been a wipe-out.
Well, whadayuno!
October 7, 2008 11:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Politico Wire:
The Second Presidential Debate
Tonight's debate wasn't even close. Sen. Barack Obama ran away with it -- particularly when speaking about the economy and health care. Talking about his mother's death from cancer was very powerful. On nearly every issue, Obama was more substantive, showed more compassion and was more presidential.
In contrast, Sen. John McCain was extremely erratic. Sometimes he was too aggressive (referring to Obama as "that one.") Other times, he just couldn't answer the question (on how he would ask Americans to sacrifice.) And his random attempts at jokes (hair transplants?) were just bad.
October 7, 2008 11:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
What happened to all of the tough talk and nasty rhetoric that has come from McCain and Palin over the past few days? When Obama is in the room, the old white-haired guy isn't so ballsy with throwing the mud.
All mouth McCain.
October 7, 2008 11:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently it was a headfake. Many pointed out that nasty doesn't work well in townhalls.
But expect the last debate ot be meaner.
OR perhaps, more winsome. Will McCan give a swansong tpye valedictory?
October 7, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN: Obama 54% - 30%!
October 7, 2008 11:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Woo Hoo!~
October 7, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I knew that would make you happy!
October 7, 2008 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
54-30 folks, WHOOPED THAT ASS EASY!!
October 7, 2008 11:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have checked "who won the debate" polls on CNN, MSNBC and the Chicago Tribune. Each one has BO winning, with more than 80% of the vote. That is not a typo!
Fox News has no poll. I can only assume that they could not live with the outcome of such a vote.
October 7, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, they're "reasessing" their whole modus operandi now...
October 7, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
"President Obama"
Just trying it out .... got to get used it.
October 7, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
And this debate will make their smear attack look even pettier and smaller. I'm so happy about it!
October 7, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I want a "That One '08" t-shirt
October 7, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
And a bumper sticker too!
October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I got you covered on the minimum for an order
October 7, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh has been asking about the non-handshake after the debate ended. But NBC ended their coverage with a replay of the handshake that occurred just before Brokaw asked Obama and McCain to get out of the way so he could read his teleprompter.
The video Josh has up reflects what occurred later. I got the sense that McCain is jokingly telling Obama, "we already shook hands," so Obama shakes Cindy's.
In other words, tempest in a teapot.
Beyond all that -- McCain should get used to addressing his rival as President.
October 7, 2008 11:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, it seems to typically be the first thing debaters do.
"That one" was a lot weirder and more likely to gain attention.
October 7, 2008 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if McCain refered to Cindy like this:
You already shook my hand. Shake hands with THIS ONE.
LOL
October 7, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's comment referring to BO as "..that one..." is not playing well in pundit land.
October 7, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
CNN just played the "That one" moment again. OMG. This could become the game changer moment of this election. McCain is going to suffer for this little moment all the way to November 4th.
October 7, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
The economy is the game changer. "That one" is just something the media will blab about for a few hours.
October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right, no question about that.
But that single moment of McCain's sincere disdain for Obama is going to hurt McCain a lot. Some voters take this little moments seriously (I'm not one of them) but this soundbite will stick.
October 7, 2008 11:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
I view it a bit differently. I honestly think he could not recall Obama's name for a split second so he fell back on "that one". Either way, it is negative.
And if this is a negative that keeps hurting McCain for a week or so, I am all for it.
October 7, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it doesn't matter anymore.
Obama is more closer than ever of victory!
Now I just don't want a victory. I want a landslide!
And that's our objective for November 4th. Let's make it happen: Donate, volunteer, vote!
October 7, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ba-rockslide!
October 7, 2008 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
My take : McCain, he meant to say something like, "You'll never guess which Senator here voted for it... That One!" But he missed out the first part, and will now pay the price.
October 8, 2008 4:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wouldn't it be a "given", part of the ritual of a debate for the two candidates to shaje hands at the end. That's just common decency, right, to shake hands with your opponent? And McCain must know that?
October 7, 2008 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
But they did -- see three posts up.
October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has devolved into a disrespectful jerk.
Any class he had went out the window when he had to sell his soul to the wingnutz of the Repub party.
October 7, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's up with the Stepford children in McCain hats in the spin room? Seriously creeping me out.
October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus H. Christ on a whole wheat cracker, McPowlin is paying the price for crapping on the MSM tonight. Even the Republican pundits are creaming him on both CNN and MSNBC.
October 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah I watched in amazement. They are all resigned to defeat. Just like Lalo and SFCWallace.
October 7, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn. Where is ol' Lalo?
October 7, 2008 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel bad for him, one day he just couldn't keep the resolve to continue logging on. He said, "Why do I bother acting like a concerned Obama supporter. No matter what I do, Obama will still win this thing. Well, I guess it's timme to go back to watching NASCAR and harming small animals". And thats the last we ever saw of Ol'Lalo.
October 7, 2008 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wowie wow wow!
October 7, 2008 11:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're sure it's because they crapped on the MSM? I think it has more to do with his horseshit performance tonight and Obama's complete control.
October 7, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even *they* can't put lipstick on this pig...
October 7, 2008 11:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, if that had made the slightest difference to their narrative in the first one and the VP debate, I'd agree.
October 7, 2008 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Overall it was a boring debate but Obama won hands down. Anybody notice how almost all of McCain's jokes fell flat?
October 7, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I got the sense that McCain is jokingly telling Obama, "we already shook hands,"
Yup, wouldn't wanna do that more than once?
October 7, 2008 11:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
This That No Other has a fair question for McCain:
This That No Other
October 7, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see. Oh to be a fly on the window of the car driving McCain from the studio.
October 7, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!!!
October 7, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, CNN broke down the poll by issues. On finance and economy, Obama won by 20+%. Also won by single digits on Iraq, though McCain won by single digits on terrorism.
October 7, 2008 11:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn. That terrorism number just mystifies me. I guess its that ol' "Republicans are the daddy party"/fear crap left over from Bush...
October 7, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The CNN pundits are killing McCain.
October 7, 2008 11:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bam! Right in the kisser. That's got to smart.
October 7, 2008 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is correct....BO "is the one". Did anyone noticed his nose became red after BO knock him down on the bomb bomb iran
October 7, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can see SNL writers thinking.... THAT ONE, lets use THAT ONE.
October 7, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
It could not stop thinking that John McCain was hopped up on something. He just could not sit still, or stand still. His eyes look like squirrel piss holes in the snow.
They had him juiced to the max.
It looks like their internal tracking polls told them that their terrorist smears were backfiring, since he did not even hint at it tonight.
October 7, 2008 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nah, he's just old. That chair was too high for him and created funny pressure points. You could see he was pacing around and standing leaning against things. He was physically uncomfortable all night, and I think that would effect ones answers. Not defending his answers, but seeing him pace around like that made me feel empathy for the guy.
Getting old sucks.
October 7, 2008 11:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jonze
You are just full of it. This is McCain's favorite format, and he hounded Obama to hold one every week. Your excuse is really lame. McCain has held a ton of those town hall meetings, so if he was not physically comfortable in them, he would not be craving to hold more of them.
October 8, 2008 12:36 AM | Reply | Permalink