Obama Camp To Unleash Tough Response Robocall Blasting McCain's "Sleazy" Campaign
The Obama campaign plans to unleash a robocall in Wisconsin tomorrow that hits back hard against John McCain's robocalls in the state -- it features a small business owner from Green Bay, Wisconsin, that says she's been turned against McCain by his "sleazy" roboslime campaign against Obama.
An Obama adviser sent us the call, which features Jeri Watermolen, a small business owner from Green Bay, who claims that she "used to support McCain but has switched her support to Obama" because of the "sleazy phone calls and mail" attacking Obama that McCain has put out.
Here's a script:
Hi, this is Jeri Watermolen, calling for the Campaign for Change. I live in Green Bay and, like you, I've been getting sleazy phone calls and mail from John McCain and his supporters viciously -- and falsely -- attacking Barack Obama. I used to support John McCain because he honorably served our country -- but this year he's running a dishonorable campaign. We know McCain will continue many of Bush's policies, and now he's using George Bush's divisive tactics. In fact, he hired the Bush strategists whose attacks even McCain once called hateful.Barack Obama will turn the page on these negative politics and stand up for the middle class. That's the change we need, and it's why I have changed my mind about John McCain. Join me in voting for Barack Obama. Paid for the Campaign for Change, a project of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, 608-255-5172, and authorized by Obama for America.
You can listen to the call here.















More robocalls????
October 21, 2008 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to second that. Robo calls are for shut ins who want somebody to talk to them...even if it's a voice in a can.
October 21, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
That other guy is on his last legs. Obama is rightfully and forcefully dealing with any and all of these puerile smears. It is odd but truly in this campaign we have a mature, intelligent, calm, organized and reasoned adult against a child bully whose only strategy can be summed up in one word: WAAAAAAAAAAAH
October 21, 2008 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure about this -- as many said few will sit through such calls (as for me, I check caller ID and don't pick up calls from unknown), people say it's not effective (any research?)... it could be counter-productive if people find robocalls annoying whoever the caller is.
But it's not a hate call (of course!) so I guess it won't hurt the campaign's credibility when attacking them for their robocalls (then again, stupid MSM may be dancing an equivalency dance yet again?)
October 21, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
It strikes me as odd that the Obama campaign would use robocalls to fight robocalls. Regardless of the content if I get automated telephone calls I just hang up regardless.
As you said jessran, it's great having a mature adult at the helm, though I would have preferred Obama or Biden to articulate their opinion on the matter as a TV spot to replace an ad or two rather than another robocall.
October 21, 2008 11:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Robocalls are the new Black.
October 21, 2008 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
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October 21, 2008 11:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not so sure about the robocalls either, but there must be a reason why politicians use them. There must be some data that say they work even if it is annoying?!? But I do like the message -Feeling uneasy about McCain's sleazy calls? do like I did, vote for Obama instead.
October 21, 2008 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
They're cheap -- that's the reason pols use robocalls. I heard about it on NPR the other day -- it can work out to a *quarter of a cent* per call, with the right software. Throw in some MSM coverage of the message in the calls, and it's bargain basement compared to buying a TV spot. I don't have a landline anymore so it's all moot to me...
October 22, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
OK, so that would explain why McCain is using them. But Obama? With all that money, does his campaign really need to be using these tactics? Especially with Biden out there screaming "Stop the calls John!" ... I guess there's always more than enough hypocrisy to go around.
October 22, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
guess all i can say is they've taken each step correctly so far. i wish they wouldn't do this, though -
maybe it's one of those deals where it's not really flood-the-telephone-lines, but rather more getting MSM to pick it up and play these calls against the others . . .
October 21, 2008 11:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you are right.
October 21, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
You've got a point. Arguably they only have to make one call, and send a copy of the audio to the MSM who will broadcast it on national telly.
Kinda like a name calling contest only Obama isn't calling names in return.
October 21, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. McScum claimed this morning (10/21) that Obama was robocalling too. I think it was a call in a limited area (by a state dem?) and by no means a sleaze call, but Scum actively made it sound like Obama was doing something equivalent. So perhaps they thought they would better get the MSM to pick up what their call is like. Hopefully the media will see the difference (don't hold your breath though...)
October 22, 2008 12:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's like the missile gap.
Maybe this robocall is just for show? It doesn't exactly scream "blistering" to me, BTW.
October 21, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
love the avatar ...
October 22, 2008 7:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
This sounds awfully close to Jeri "Watermelon," Is this a real name? This could become an unfortunate joke.
October 21, 2008 11:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was just going to say that hers is an unfortunate name.
October 22, 2008 12:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
So for how many presidential election cycles have robo-calls been used in battleground states? I've never gotten one out here in Oregon and certainly don't consider this a disappointment.
October 21, 2008 11:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm in Iowa. I haven't received a robocall since the caucus in January, but back then, I was getting them on an almost daily basis from multiple candidates from both parties. Pissed me off big time.
I'm not sure how I got on the calling list for both Giuliani and McCain. I got tons of calls from them, robo and live. I'm surprised I haven't received any calls from McCain in the last few months.
We're saturated with TV ads for both candidates tho. Our local stations cover northwest Iowa, northern Nebraska, southeast South Dakota and even a small portion of southwest Minnesota - so we're very popular with campaigns.
The ads for pres. campaigns started right after the 2006 election. We got a brief respite after the caucus - but as soon as McCain clinched the nomination, his ads started running here again.
October 22, 2008 2:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
They seem to be pretty common here in OH. We've got a bunch before the primary and now, especially on local races. Haven't gotten any McCain ones yet...
October 22, 2008 4:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
A robocall against robocalls. Works.
October 21, 2008 11:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this for real? She pronounces his name O-bomb-a, every single time. It's hard to believe the campaign would approve this.
October 21, 2008 11:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
To my ears it sounded more like Obamba to rhyme with La Bamba...
Very strange... is it the regional accent in Green Bay?
October 22, 2008 12:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here you go ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coy8Hoa1DNw
Somebody needs to remix this.
Para bailar, Obama
Para bailar, Obama
Se necessita una poca de gracia
Una poca de gracia
Para mi, para ti, ay arriba, ay arriba
Ay, arriba arriba
Por ti sere, por ti sere, por ti sere
Yo no soy marinero
Yo no soy marinero, soy capitan
Soy capitan, soy capitan
Bamba, bamba
Bamba, bamba
Bamba, Obama
October 22, 2008 2:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's my problem, and this is a start to its answer: McCain, Palin and the surrogates are chorusing that Obama, the media, the pollsters, and the thinktanks are telling Americans that the election is over, when it's voters that determine the outcome. Yet at the same time, the McCain camp tells Americans that they're not running sleaze, they're running truth, despite all the surveys of voters saying that they are in fact running sleaze, and that it's a disgrace. A high-profile name needs to make that point, and make it explicit.
October 21, 2008 11:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama does not counter the robocalls with Robocalls there could be the perception that if he doesn't rebut it something about it must be true or that he doesn't care what the voters think... I think that was Kerry's mistake vis a vis Swiftboating - that shit was so outrageous he figured no one would believe it!
As long as Obama only points out that McCain is being negative and he lies about me, I think it should be fine. Of course I dont know anyone who sits through a robo call :)
October 22, 2008 12:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't mean to offend, but I think it's a bit past time to be comparing Obama to Kerry or McCain's robocalls with "swiftboating." There's no "there" in the McCain robocalls, and the Obama camp has denounced them, as have GOP operatives.
I just don't think this stuff is effective and has the feel of getting a little too close to the gutter--and needlessly so, given their lead.
I suspect they are doing them because the campaign has bought up all the ad time it can and because Obama and surrogates are not going to appear in whole states before the election. Like McCain, they are hoping, I think, that robocalls can be a kind of stand in. My understanding is that they've been using them fairly frequently throughout the past month, but that theirs have been less sleazy than McCain's so have not received the same press.
I still think it's a bad strategy and takes away from Obama's credibility. Like others, I'd really like to see numbers on the upside here. I can't imagine it's more than a point or two at most.
October 22, 2008 7:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I sat through my first robocall in forever today (like everybody else, I usually hang up right away). But this time, the voice was so calm and pleasant-- it was Michelle Obama letting people know that they can vote early. That was it. Very upbeat and informative. Kind of refreshing...
October 22, 2008 12:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are there any information sources on the percentage each party has in early voting?
October 22, 2008 12:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
From FiveThirtyEight.com on 21/10/2008:
October 22, 2008 2:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pew has a 24 point lead among early voters.
October 22, 2008 8:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't call it "blistering." Seems to me it stated the "facts" as perceived by one voter. Green Bay is a huge battleground area. If it's being broadcast, maybe it's up there. Lots of people mispronounce names. And maybe lots of people are "confused" about who to vote for at this point.
We right now have a chimney being worked on (tuck-pointing). The subcontractor doing the work, I swear to God looks just like Joe the Plumber. Kind of scary actually. My husband tried to convince him for Obama yesterday. He seems to believe mcShame will help him with health care - or something. But he admitted he's "confused." He works on his own, has no family, no health care. And for all I know a robo call like this might make a difference. Hard to say. It doesn't really give "info" except to take a stand against sleazy ads.
If it's genuine, I assume they must have tested it out on some people... some average uncommitted folks low info folks in WI. Truly, WI does not like negative campaigning. So it might work in WI. Many Germans here. The last name could be for real.
October 22, 2008 8:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
This system drives me nuts sometimes! This comment was meant to be separate. By itself.
October 22, 2008 8:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I sat through my first robocall in forever today (like everybody else, I usually hang up right away). But this time, the voice was so calm and pleasant-- it was Michelle Obama letting people know that they can vote early. That was it. Very upbeat and informative. Kind of refreshing...
October 22, 2008 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm all for pushback but if they are not that effective in the first place, how are more of them more effective?
Frankly, I think Biden's line today, were it to get MSM traction (a big *if*), is more effective.
But, seriously, so far, whatever Obama touches pretty much turns to gold so...
October 22, 2008 12:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it gets a voter who switched 'because' of the 'sleazy' robocalls to provide testimony so I guess they are taking a chance that a few others who hated the nasty robocalls will agree.
Don't like them myself. I wonder if it is truly necessary.
October 22, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
My repost from the other thread:
Des Moines Register writes: McCain and Palin will be honeymooning in Iowa this weekend with the tax payers' money. A week before the election day, they're going to a state where they are behind by digit behind, polls show.
This is called menage a trois of 3 hotheaded mavericks: McLame-Palin-Schmidt.
October 22, 2008 12:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jeez guys - I don't like calls, but I also remember how much howling there has been for Obama be tough and I do think his tactic of answering every smear in some way - not leaving it hanging out there - has worked.
Remember Kerry? Remember he let all that shit hang out there and how devastating it was?
I have no idea what the effectiveness of these calls is but it is pushing back against McLame's calls in kind.
October 22, 2008 12:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. We've learned our lesson. We should shoot down anything they throw. Cannot afford to let them go unresponded or without rebuttal.
October 22, 2008 12:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey Tena,
Looks like I'm a member of a growing group of Tena Groupies. These days I log on haphazardly and can't stick around much longer than 30 minutes. Turns out my employer actually wants an honest day's work (OK by me) and the five Leaders of Tomorrow runnin' 'round my house are pretty fun to play with. But when I log on, I scroll on down the page to find your witticisms. Always worth it. Thanks for making this so fun to read. This site, and our world, is better with you in it. Peace!
btw, cosign on your comment. it's getting late in the game, we're up, and we're going to run them ragged. gimme a hodean yeeeeeeehah!
October 22, 2008 12:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's a good move. We generated massive resources to be able to respond in every way possible. We have them pinned down and should show no mercy. McCain morphs his monstrous message every day (Obama is Bad, Part 27, Return to the Planet of Assholes). We stay on message and hammer it home through every possible communications channel. Robocalls may get us 0.3% votes in those states. And it gives the MSM the direction it still needs. Every day I watch this well run campaign and all I can say is, Kazart!
October 22, 2008 12:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
"0.3% more votes." Heavens to murgatroid, I'm losin' it.
October 22, 2008 12:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too long. People hang up fairly quickly on robocalls. You can't do more than a few sentences. It would be more effective at about half the length.
October 22, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Florida Go. Charlie Crist calls McLame-Palin's socialist accusation bullshit: "Crist was asked about the attacks from many McCain supporters that Obama is advancing a 'socialist' agenda.
" 'I imagine different people have different definitions. I don't think it looks that way to me,' he said" (Politico).
The point is Crist is somehow de-endorsing McLame. With that, McLame's Florida boat is sinking.
October 22, 2008 1:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Al-Qaida Backs McCain as President---PAMELA HESS (AP)
"Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.
"The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan."
October 22, 2008 1:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Early voting a boost for Dems
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-21-early-voting_N.htm
October 22, 2008 1:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Early Voting NC through Monday
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/21/173813/70/316/633293
October 22, 2008 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
don't do it!
October 22, 2008 1:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
It would be nice if the woman on the call could pronounce Obama's name correctly. She keeps saying "Obamba," which rhymes with "La Bamba." Can we get a re-record?
October 22, 2008 2:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
When I get one of those robocalls, I always hand the phone over to my five year old, Deanine, telling her the call is for her. After listening to one of the calls, she asked me if it were true that Obama wanted to teach sexual intercourse to kindergarteners.
October 22, 2008 2:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, whatever happened to Barney Smith? He was one of my favorite moments at the Dem convention. When the econ crisis came to a boil, I thought for sure they would roll out Barnery Smith talking about Smith-Barney. Barney Smith is the real answer to Sam the lying, unlicensed plumber.
October 22, 2008 2:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've been thinking the exact same thing. That whole portion of the DNC--with the everyday voters--was clearly the biggest success except for Obama's speech. It seems like the old time Democratic Party that doesn't recognize its best assets. It hasn't seem to hurt them, mind you, but it's a shame that that segment didn't get network coverage and hasn't been included in campaign ads.
October 22, 2008 7:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
They play the Smith Barney before Barney Smith tv ad a lot here in Indiana.
October 22, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Al-Qaeda support McCain:
Read the whole story here:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1852749,00.html
The final nail in the coffin? We can hope....
October 22, 2008 2:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
You do know McCain sleeps in a coffin don't you..?
October 22, 2008 3:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, for five and a half years, John McCain didn't have the choice to sleep in a coffin.
October 22, 2008 3:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's not the worst tactical move the Obama campaign could choose, I suppose, but doesn't something like this give rethugs more of an excuse to peddle the 'Both sides are guilty' meme. I mean, they were claiming a rough equality in negative campaigning when virtually all of it was coming from McLoony; now Obama is risking putting himself on that debased scoreboard. However righteous this particular robo-call may be, I don't quite see the point of giving even marginal support to the MSM 'Moral Equivalency' fantasy?
October 22, 2008 3:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah...at first, I was a bit ambivalent about Obama resorting to Rethug tactics...now, for purely pragmatic reasons,ie; they don't fucking work,
I'm against That One going down that route- especially at this stage of the end-game. McSlime is a dead duck, any way you look at it. I mean, folks in Penn. are scratching their heads in pure bafflement, wondering WTF McScum is doing there, (basically, he's conceding that his only chance is to win Penn, which he most certainly will not do)...I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, but I think this is going to be a landslide. About goddamn time, too...
October 22, 2008 4:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
This has got be a "No Swift Boating Allowed" response.
McCain's negative messages haven't been effective.
Nobody thinks Robocalls are that effective.
But you never know what might hit a nerve therefore if you have the resources by all means advance on all fronts and swat down everything.
This is like a chess match between a Grand Master and a mediocre player. Instead of just going for the checkmate Grand Masters Axelrod and Plouffe are sweeping the field of all the other sides pieces. In the end there will be only Old King Cain and Queen Caribou left when the army of pawns (that's voters like you and me) overwhelm them.
October 22, 2008 4:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did anyone call that phone number yet? I will call it later (it's 5:38 am). At the end it states the call was paid for for by the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. I think either it was a hoax or was some sort of cheap audio made by volunteers. At any rate, I detested it. I truly do not think Axelrod or Plouffe or anyone in the Chicago HQ would have paid for it.
October 22, 2008 6:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
what is up with drudge's picture today? less than two weeks left, gotta get out the race card out. i think it will only feed into palinblicans.
October 22, 2008 8:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't like robocalls period. I think he was winning on PR and this gives McCain ground to say, look he does it too. No one listens to "yes, I do, but mine are nicer".
Tell Mr. Juicy Watermelon or whatever his name is to get back to work and GOTV.
October 22, 2008 8:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good for Obama. Robos are a detestable medium but a necessary way to bat back McCain's robocrap.
October 22, 2008 8:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wouldn't call it "blistering." Seems to me it stated the "facts" as perceived by one voter. Green Bay is a huge battleground area. If it's being broadcast, maybe it's up there. Lots of people mispronounce names. And maybe lots of people are "confused" about who to vote for at this point.
We right now have a chimney being worked on (tuck-pointing). The subcontractor doing the work, I swear to God looks just like Joe the Plumber. Kind of scary actually. My husband tried to convince him for Obama yesterday. He seems to believe mcShame will help him with health care - or something. But he admitted he's "confused." He works on his own, has no family, no health care. And for all I know a robo call like this might make a difference. Hard to say. It doesn't really give "info" except to take a stand against sleazy ads.
If it's genuine, I assume they must have tested it out on some people... some average uncommitted folks low info folks in WI. Truly, WI does not like negative campaigning. So it might work in WI. Many Germans here. The last name could be for real.
(I may try it out on the contractor later. But truly... he's a scary-looking guy.)
October 22, 2008 8:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
The call doesn't seem that effective. It does however seem like a message purely for McCain, just to get under his skin. I truly beleive deep down that it is killing McCain to be running this kind of campaign, considering himself so honorable and all.
Everytime somone asks him about his campaign you can see his blood boil. I think on the last day he will lose it if someone asks about the tone of his campaign. "Or do you regret....." This call gives the media just one more reason (among thousands) to ask himn about it.
October 22, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I second TheraP's question - why would anyone describe that call as "blistering?" "Annoying", in the sense that all robocalls are, but otherwise very straight-forward.
October 22, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a registered, independent voter and not once in this whole election cycle have I received one smear email or robocall from the McCain campaign.
I guess John McCain really doesn't care about us regular people.
October 22, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is smart.
The state party uses a local person to get the message across.
Most people probably will hang up but at least the Obama campaign won't just lie down and take it. They will compete on any media platform McCain wants to try.
They are elminating any and all McCain advantages.
October 22, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
No more robo calls, please!!! Why not putting up ads. The Obama camp has money and, for the sake of our economy, they need to spend the money.
I actually think that we should outlaw robo calls of all kinds, political or commercial. They are too intrusive. Just imagine if you are a night-time worker who needs a good daytime sleep everyday in order to be able to work.
October 22, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I, too, hangup on robo calls...all of them! For the McCain camp, far behind the Obama campaign in funds, robo calling is cheap. Of course the real attention getters are the insane claims made at Republican red-neck rallies. If the claims are absurd enough, MSM will repeatedly broadcast replays of the lies for days. Much less expensive than even robo calls. Only problem is: Most of McCain's fanatics are watching Dancing With the Stars or Bill Dance Bass Fishing Tips when the propaganda is replayed. We may hold particular demographics in contempt, but their vote as dictated by their bias and pastors negates ours.
October 22, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lot of hand wringers posting on this thread.
October 22, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
How many folks actually welcome ROBOCALLS?
that's what I thought....
NONE of these clowns deserve the right or priveledge of representing American people and this democracy. They're scumbags...
How about everyone getting a kitty together and we can just mass Robocall both of these campaign leaders and employees....
We could just put the numbers on endless repeat and allow them to receive the same treatment that they're dishing out... unwanted and undeserved intrusion to our days and evenings...
Trouble is... these folk will NEVER actually represent our interests,,, they are opportunists who only do what furthers their OWN agenda...
Get RID of the republicans and democrats in office, folks, because BOTH MOBS are destroying this nation of ours,,, they are just destroying it from both ends at once... IMHO
October 22, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I called the number indicated at the end of the message - It's the Wisconsin Dem Party HQ in Madison. I got v/m. I told them the person could at least get the pronounciation of Obama's name correct, that I was upset about that. I never heard back from anyone. Personally, I still do not like robocalls, I don't care who is doing them.
October 22, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink