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Obama Ad: McCain "Out Of Ideas, Out Of Touch, And Running Out Of Time"

The Obama campaign goes up with a new 30-second ad designed to pre-emptively frame McCain's expected fusillade of closing attacks as the last gasps of a losing campaign:

The ad revives a line he used against Hillary in the closing days of the Dem primary, charging that McCain "wants to tear Barack Obama down with scare tactics and smears."

Only this time, the spot puts that claim in the context of the economy, saying that McCain's campaign of slime is due to the fact that "McCain's own campaign admits that if the election is about the economy, he's going to lose."

That's the framing the Obama camp has been repeating endlessly and wants for the closing days: Obama wants the campaign to be about which candidate has better solutions on the economy, while McCain's attacks on Obama's character and allegedly questionable background and associations signal nothing but desperation to avoid discussion of the things that matter to voters.

If many recent polls are to be believed, voters are seeing the race in precisely these terms, and as a result don't appear to be listening to or getting swayed by McCain's attacks. The question is whether the frame will hold for another 10 days.


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It is NINE days not ten

Oh and Greg Hillary LOST the primary!

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we've been arguing about this here. I include election day in the count because we won't know who won until election day is over. so while it is 9 days until election day, it's roughly 10 days until we have a winner.

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So on November 4th there will be one day remaining? Maybe you should just use the military formulation and say there are 9 and a butt days until Election Day. The "butt" is for the current day and the day of the event--since neither are actually days remaining.

Or you could keep bitterly clinging to your new math.

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Gee, back in my day we would count it as "nine days and a wake-up". But we also carried single-shot muzzle loaders back then.

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I'm with you, Greg. I suppose that makes me a clinger too. I think I'll cling to tpm.

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What do you call John McCAIN who uses fear and scare tactics to attempt to get votes from independent voters? A POLITICAL TERRORIST.

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Greg, how can we avoid this spam?

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Yes spam like this from either side of the aisle is annoying, Hell we even had a MMO Game spamming bot here recently. Just going to toss this idea to you guys for a easier way to implement a banning process. How about you add a button next to the name where we can report spammers, just have it so after a certain number of reports it sends you guys a notice so you can check it out and ban the guy if you deem it necessary.

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Seconded.

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On my Mac, it has crossed over onto the comment area so I cannot see the right side of what I am typing. VERY annoying.

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But we do know who the winner will be on November 4th.

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I agree with your numbers, that is how I look at it. And after the 2000 debacle, who can count anyway?

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Greg I am only pulling your chain..I love your work.

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understood thx appreciate it, but it actually is a fun debate

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It's the millennium debate all over again.

;)

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Obama wants the campaign to be about which candidate has better solutions on the economy, while McCain ... wants it to be about a black guy attacking a white girl at an ATM in Pittsburgh. That just about nails it.

http://pufferfish.typepad.com/

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I like the ten days point as, in theory, anything could happen on Election Day itself. I guess it's nine days if you're focusing on campaign messaging, but clearly it's ten if you focus on campaign strategy. E.g., Sen. McCain's tactics clearly include ten days (and naturally so do Sen. Obama's and the parties, etc.) I.e. they focus on tactics for Election Day itself (and possibly after, if you think it ends in a 2000 scenario).

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This ad should really get under the skin of the former naval aviator, John McCain. One of the worst things another flyer could say about another with regard to their flying skills, especially if they were engaging in mock dog fights, was that the loser consistently "ran out of altitude, ran out of speed, and ran out of ideas." The flyers knew that when that happened, the pilot with no options was toast and headed earthward. Obama's taunt should elicit a truly bone-headed response from Tailhook Johnnie Mac this week as his campaign augurs in.

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After all he did crash 3 or 4 planes!

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He got all pissy with Brokaw this morning over polls, and how he disagrees with the ones Brokaw used, which were like six of them. He just has to fight with everyone all the time. I found it interesting to note the other day that he and Cindy have lived separately for years now. She does not go back to D.C. when the Senate is in session, and when he is home she usually is in CA at the condo.

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What Frank Rich Really Meant, In His ‘Defense of White Americans’ Column
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4338

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this ad isnt even new. They can try to come up with a more effective ad


When Morons Become Reporters: Biden v. Barbara West

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Out of touch? You mean campaigning against "fairness" on Meet the Press might be a little out of touch?

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A truly sad human story repeats itself. John McCain will retire to his Arizona ranch dreaming about his greatness, much as Nixon did at the end. G.W. Bush is headed for a similar fate at his ranch in Texas.

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No, he won't retire. He's still got his Senate gig for a while, not to mention all those late night TV appearances that he's so fond of.

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One way or the other, McCain's headed for the ranch.

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Out of curiosity and for future reference, does anyone remember who it actually was in the McCain campaign that said, "if the election is about the economy, McCain is going to lose"

That one statement has been an invaluable gift.

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I don't remember exactly but I believe it was someone from the McCain campaign itself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-strategist-if-we-k_n_132179.html

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But he's a war hero! POW! Brokaw made sure to get that in. Two old rich white guys on the way to the retirement home talking about the past.

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Folks,

I have been seeing an attack ad, sponsor by let freedom ring, since i woke up this morning. The Ad is airing 3: 1 for every Obama's Ad in PA.

I think these 527 groups are trying to steal Pennsylvania.

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did anyone see McCain on MTP just now? he really showed his age. He couldnt remember names and a few times he couldnt even put a sentence together like when he responded to a question about Colin Powell. That was not his best interview.

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OMFG, that was a trainwreck for mccain. oops, i mean GREAT NEWS!!

that segment where he could only come up with 4 secretaries of state was painful. "ehhhhh, and one other ... ehhhh"

to brokaw's credit, he really shredded mccain on the tax issue.

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He's really been showing his age the last couple of months. Someone on TV remarked that he had aged noticeably since the beginning of the year and he has.


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I hadn't seen that comment but it sure seemed to me like he has been showing the effects of stress on memory. It is not going to get better just because the campaign is over. The transition period will not give him much time to rest before he starts a whole new level of stress. Younger presidents age much faster than normal, older presidents will head into what ever form of dementia they are at risk for under the stress of campaigning, transition and the highest stress job on earth.

Honestly, I read someone like Mark Levine at NRO on "The Obama Temptation" and it just about makes me nuts. The focus, level of arguement and information is apalling. That is only partly stress related. We did get off on the 150K wardrobe for awhile but mostly because of the excess and hypocrisy. (Why should we not use any nail they hand us on silver platters?) There are still people determined that Obama is not a US citizen. Excuse me, those of us who question the governments official explantation for 9/11 at least use scientific studies and analysis - especially the actual, official government reports that refute the explanation- to ask for further investigation. The US Secret Service under the Bush administration is going to spend 100 million in protection for someone they had better be able to determine was not eligible for the job?

Then I read their responses to Frum's advice to save the down ticket races and thought, oh joy, they aren't going to take it. If the NC and other voters don't pay attention to the Dole ads about the imbalance in DC, we could at least hit 58 Senate seats. I won't believe 60 until the votes are in. Even there, on different issues I think we could get a few GOP senators - especially those up for re-election in '10 - to join the Dems.

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Christopher Hitchens.

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Someone on TV remarked that he had aged noticeably since the beginning of the year...

I haven't noticed it myself, but I believe it.

What I mean is that I'm not good at noticing small, gradual changes.  I need side-by-side views of then and now for the deterioration to be noticeable.

E.g., four months ago I saw a video of McScum from 2004, and the difference between then and now was so striking that I wrote a post about it.  Given that difference, I'm not at all surprised that his condition has gotten worse at the same, or even at an accelerating rate.

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It astounds me that with one week to go their Sunday spin is all about corporate tax rates.

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Can't tell a PAC from a Church nowadays...

Meanwhile the evangelical wing begins weekend one of a two week gotv effort.

Evangelical pastors (yes this means you Rod Parsley, and John Hagee), southern baptists et al. are just today putting a guilt trip on unsuspecting members by urging them to vote for the republicans. Yes this is done tax free (if you call your church giving free), and is also free campaign advertising, with Gods approval of course.

Today, and next Sunday, will be the harshest of messages that blare from pulpits all across this country. The rhetorical moral questions will be asked: you don't want to murder babies do you, and Muslims are evil hint, hint you wouldn't vote for a Muslim president would you?

These so called men of god should be challenged when they so blatantly ignore the concept of free will that Jesus himself observed. They also need to go to a camp meeting where they teach about the constitution with a strong focus on the first amendment.

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They also need to go to a camp meeting where they teach about the constitution with a strong focus on the first amendment.

Every single school in the country needs to teach the constitution, starting in grade school and adding to it all the way through high school.

It would go a long way towards educating the so-called low information electorate.


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Its amazing that we don't do that already, its not like the Constitution is a 1000 page law book. Its fairly easy to understand and pretty short, not to mention the foundation of our country.

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It amazes me too.

There's a Democratic political activist in Dallas, Harryette Everhardt, who started a program to bring the constitution in to Dallas schools. We gave a big chunk of money her to get the program off the ground - I don't know how it's going - haven't heard from her lately. If anyone could get it done, it would be her.

She started it after the '04 election. When we got the letter about her program, I thought: Wow - why aren't we already doing this?

Pesky community organizer!

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They used to teach the constitution--when did that stop?

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My problem, Musgrove, is that I don't find the constitution boring. I find it fascinating -endlessly.

I totally fell in love with it once I understood it and the SCOTUS cases interpreting it - it's one of the most brilliant exercises in thinking ever put on paper.

I think it can be taught in such a way that everyone pretty much would find it fascinating.


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Quite the contrast to the wingnuts that keep babbling about it, don't you think TenaX?

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At the very least, studying the Constitution should be mandatory for VP candidates. Do you hear that Sarah?

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Like she could understand it in anything close to a profound manner.

And not everyone needs to have profound understanding of it, but by god if you're going to be vice president you do since it governs just about every breath you take if you become part of the Executive.


One reason I hate her so - out of many - is because she doesn't know one fucking thing about America. Not one goddamn thing.

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Not only that, Tena, but she didn't even CARE to learn about America --- no intellectual curiosity about national or international issues prior to being chosen as the Repub VP choice.

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Just like Commander Coocoo Bananas.

Just exactly like Cmmr Coocoo = and everyone knows how well that's gone -

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I'm fucking sick of having the retarded running this country and I think most people are - I sure heard nothing but that after the '04 election - I couldn't even find anyone in Dallas who would admit to having voted for him again Everyone was walking around in shock saying: What happened? How did the retarded people win this election? Perfect strangers were saying that to me.

No offense to anyone who is involved in any way with developmentally disabled people - but retarded is a damn good word here because they are retarded in their understanding of this country and what makes it work. They don't know and they don't care.


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I work for the mentally retarded, as a human services manager, and I can tell you that hardly anyone in the business is offended by terms the way people might think.

My only fear is that you may offend some of my clients by inferring that Bush and company rise to the level of mentally disabled.

lol!

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I'm glad to hear that - I don't like having perfectly good words consigned to the political correctness ash heap. I don't like political correctness - it threatens to make language very boring indeed by taking every bit of color out of it -

The same is true of Indians - they are Indians. They are not hung up on "Native American." They call themselves Indians and are not offended by that term.

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Native American is a misnomer anyway.

The single most successful tribe we have only showed up down here at the same time the Spanish did - the Navajo came down here from Canada in about 1400. Roughly.

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It's funny, but in the context of my job (we're a small agency) no one is obviously politically correct, except when it comes to talking about politics. However, last night we had our annual auction fundraiser and afterwards we all went to my boss's house where, free of the office, people drank wine and just start RIPPING into McCain and Palin. It was especially heartening to me given that I'm thought around the office to be a little "inappropriate" when speaking my mind on certain subjects. Especially politics.

It felt good to know that people I worked with were on the same page.

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I would call Bush in the mild range...

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And even since being chosen she still shows no curiosity beyond her own ambition. My fondest hope is that ten years hence we'll be playing the newest edition of Trivial Pursuit and the answers will be names like "Sarah Palin" and "Ashley Todd." You know, faded into obscurity.

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I love her because she's a perfect representative of why Republicans are going to lose. Most middle class parents really don't want their kids to grow up and be stupid. The Republicans have nailed the America for Dummies vote but they've lost everyone else.

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Finally!


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And what's that matter with having brains, anyway? Why do we hear about the flaws of anyone who is intelligent, i.e. elitist, arrogant, etc.? What are we doing to future generations if we don't congratulate, honor and respect people for their talents, including intellectual talent? (of course, how people use those intellectual gifts is an entirely different issue.)

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Conservative anti-intellectualism. See what it gets us? Commander Coocoo and Sarah Palin.

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The funny thing is, quite a few of those with the "You think you're smarter than me?" mentality now seem to be scared the crap out of a woman who is obviously way stupider than they are.

They may not like people who they consider to be know-it-all, but they don't like those who are stupid either.

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All the bozos at the rallies yelling USA! USA! haven't figured out that it is "elitist" and "arrogant" to strive to be number 1 and if they want USA! to be number 1 they have to invest in the people of this country.

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I think it comes from that whole "You think you're smarter than me?" vibe that somehow runs through our public discourse. In my family it was not cool to think that you were smarter than anyone else.

So I went out and got the first BA in my family's history, followed by two MAs.

Needless to say, we don't talk about it! :)

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Nobody likes a know-it-all.

But most know-it-alls don't. People who are reasonably intelligent know they know it all.

This anti-intellectualism shit is deadly. So is the "elitism" shit.

It's hard for me to imagine actually wanting leaders who aren't smarter than I am. Jesus - I don't want to be led around by a bunch of people who are way more ill-informed than I am - it destroys the entire idea of leadership.

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People who are reasonably intelligent know they don't know it all -

always said: preview only works if you use it.

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Exactly. Who are these people who don't want someone smarter than them running the ranch?

Since I have only the most basic understanding of government, I need them to do it for me. And they MUST be smarter than me.

To edit myself from above, I don't think I meant to say that my family doesn't like people who think they are smarter than everybody else. Just that to have knowledge that another might have means you probably think you're superior in some way. I don't think I'm smarter than everybody else. Quite the contrary.

However, I know I'm smarter than these fucking morons who got us into this mess.

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I understand what you're saying.

Neither of my parents went to college. My dad didn't even finish high school. But their priority was to see me educated and they did.

Still, whenever there was a disagreement, they tended to come down on me the same way - you think you're so smart...

Now that I'm considerably older, I don't think I'm that smart at all - I've met too many really smart people and I'm in awe.

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Does McCain know something we don't? Or is he just posturing? How can he guarantee a win with a straight face?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14951.html

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What was the name of Michael Jackson's ranch? = Neverland.

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He has to do that. I mean, it's a little over the top to Joe Namath the whole thing at this point, but I can't blame him for wanting to believe.

And that's the las almost nice thing I will say about McInsane ever.

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Boy that was quite the article.

What the fuck is going on?

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There are only two answers at this point: He's either trying to be a good coach and keep his team's spirits up. Or he's just fucking gone over the deep end.

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Yeah, I'm sure you're right.

I've said this over and over - they try to steal this election and manage to do it and there will be hell to pay - people have had it with that shit.

Every Democrat and a lot of non-Democrats believe that the last two elections were more than likely stolen and if they do it again, I think they will start a civil war. I'm not kidding. They will definitely start riots, IMO.

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A very interesting article from the ADN about Christian Nationalism and Palin's church.


http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/567096.html


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Is it nov 4th yet? I got stuff to do you know... Freakin election has been distracting me for almost a year now.

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Just a year? I've been distracted for almost 8!

lol

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Boy it's a weird time we're living in when I can say that Ken Adelman hit it right square on the head:

Granted, McCain's views are closer to mine than Obama's. But I've learned over this Bush era to value competence along with ideology. Otherwise, our ideology gets discredited, as it has so disastrously over the past eight years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ken-adelman/why-a-staunch-conservativ_b_137749.html

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You remember when Palin dropped the hockey puck and the team lost, well (and fans booed her), last night another disaster. I swear, they won't let her near a hockey team again.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/25/nhl-goalie-trips-over-pal_n_137842.html

Also, did you all see Alaska's largest paper endorsed Obama?

And Sunday special, McCain might lose Arizona, yea!!!

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The goalie tripped on her carpet and was injured and couldn't play!

She's a one-woman disaster for hocky players - keep her off the ice, for god's sake!

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I read the goalie story and, with apologies to the poor guy who was injured, laughed my ass off. Everything these people are involved in turns to shit.

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More like hockey bomb than hockey mom. And the goalie of all people. I bet I know where his vote is headed.

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Hockey bomb - LOL!

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Maybe the goalie because they can't "save" this campaign!

[rimshot]

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Greg notes:
"If many recent polls are to be believed, voters are seeing the race in precisely these terms, and as a result don't appear to be listening to or getting swayed by McCain's attacks. The question is whether the frame will hold for another 10 days."

On McCain's message it is basically Palin; they cannot get around her defects. The resources, structure, the GOTV drives, and the focus of Obama's campaign are the other factors that McCain's message cannot impact. These factors cannot be significantly changed in ten or nine days, and it would be prudent to expect Team Obama to run through the finish line.

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It's not only Palin. His economic argument is a base argument. You can't win an election in hard times by campaigning against fairness. Far too many people know someone who is going to need some of that fairness.

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That's a very nice observation and one that has occurred to me, too.

They're screaming about wealth re-distribution and all I'm hearing is that Obama wants to return the system to one where everyone benefits instead of the top 25%. (And it's my wealth that is going to get redistributed - not Joe the Plumber's, not Inez the Housekeeper's - mine and my husband's.

And I fought to make that happen -

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What's wrong with you TenaX, aren't you greedy enough to LOVE AMERICA? LOL

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I'm just another America-hating liberal, I guess.

I'm going to say that Sarah called Barney Frank "Uncle Barney" in the attempt to make him sound like Uncle Joe Stalin.

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Oh that crazy Sarah and her campaign folks, they sure do love to project their motivations onto others!

I'm just hoping that changes that are a-comin' will get a couple of my neighbors to quit complaining about their taxes. I've got no kids and help subsidize the educations of their kids. Glad to do it, but don't much appreciate being demonized as a liberal while doing so.

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Little does McCain know that when he uses the socialist argument people at his rallies are thinking to themselves this would improve my life.

How many people right now would cry out STOP if the government nationalized Exxon Mobil. Not many I would say.

Reagan error...I mean era capitalism needs to be beaten to death now, and given it's due for this economy.

And don't forget Alan "I'm shocked" Greenspan. Every time I see Andrea Mitchell I think every time he dropped rates a quarter point you should have cut him off from sex for three months, until the next FOMC meeting. That would have changed his attitude towards cheap money and price inflation.

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I do not want Barney Frank making decisions best left to me and my family. I do not want Barney Frank as part of my family. I do not want an uncle Barney Frank.

I do not want to see an expansion of the welfare state which is what Obama is proposing with his tax plan and expansion of govt. "programs".

So, McCain is running out of time? Playing the age card. Obama continues to go negative right up until the end.

I've yet to hear how Obama's health care plan will reduce costs. And how much will the premiums be for the federal program.

I don't want to have our next president tested like Kennedy was during the missile crisis. Given Obama's poor judgment on supporting the surge I do not want to tempt fate with another Bay of Pigs disaster by a neophyte military strategist.

Obama would make a great PR spokesman. As president we will see the worst of Kennedy, LBJ and Carter. A pontificating neophyte who will expand both the nanny state and our military involvement in Afghani/Pakistani/Iranian cauldron.

Even broken clocks are right twice a day. Just becasue Obama was right once or twice offers no expectation that he will be right again.

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And, I certainly do not think it is in the national interest to have all three branches of govt. controlled by the same party. Time and again that has led to huge problems.

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A long time ago someone said "government is the problem".

Well now because of a government that let the Enrons, Bear Stearns, AIG's of the world do what they pleased (translation rip you off)we all suffer.

On top of it you are now going to pay for their mistakes. Gee I wonder if I mismanage my finances the government will give me money to pay off my credit cards? Not likely.

The government that got out of the way got us all thrown under the bus.

If anyone is in the pocket of corporations, and lobbyists its McCain. He's talking big government when he's walked the crooked path.

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Hotel and dinner reservations are made, champaign is chillin', campaign gear is ready, and it's gonna be a party in Chicago.

I can already feel the hangover.

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McCain Effect

Boston Globe poll out today shows McCain now down 15 points (39% to 54%)in New Hampshire.

Wasn't McCain just there a few days ago? Maybe he should take that state off his map too.

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