Milbank: McCain-Palin's Attacks On Media Have Spawned Unprecedented Crowd Hostility Toward Press
Dana Milbank -- the Washington Post reporter who wrote this morning's piece about the Palin crowd's disgusting abuse of reporters at a rally yesterday -- tells me that the McCain camp's repeated attacks on the media have spawned crowd hostility towards the press that's running at a "degree of intensity" he's never experienced in covering presidential politics.
As Milbank wrote, one Palin supporter hurled an unspecified racial epithet at an African American sound man, and told him: "Sit down, boy."
I checked in with Milbank to get a bit more on what happened yesterday, because the ugliness unleashed by McCain-Palin's nasty crowd-riling tactics are becoming a story in this campaign.
"None of this is new, but the degree of intensity is different," Milbank says. "It's taken an uglier turn. I've been doing this for years, and there's never been anything quite like this."
Milbank says that after the Palin attacked the New York Times and Katie Couric in her stump speech yesterday in Florida, he and other reporters were pelted with boos, with some saying things like "screw you" and "fucking liberal media."
"McCain has so overtly taken on the media -- they're doing it to rile the base," he continued. "And lo and behold, the base is good and riled."















MSM be afraid...very afraid...the attacks are here to stay until election day!
October 7, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone else struck by the irony that it was "the media" that McCain ADMITTED was his base for years?
It's the same as hiring my brother to ref my basketball game and then spending the whole game calling him a bum.
October 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I tend to think of the MSM as being in a codependent relationship with McCain. You know, the kind where the cops are called to the house for domestic abuse and the wife starts screaming and hitting the cops for taking him off to jail.
October 7, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
That may be a more apt analogy than you think; that Rolling Stone article said of his days at Annapolis, "When McCain was not shown the pampering to which he was accustomed, he grew petulant — even abusive."
October 7, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think many in the MSM are rethinking their "access" issue: lying favorably about the candidate in exchange for access.
And then they get smeared, and attacked -- and worse -- in return?
October 8, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain and Palin are beyond stupid. They're riling the base but they're hurting themseves because McCain is repeatedly called out for his stunts and lying and Palin has become a joke.
McCain will want his "base" back once this is over and it won't happen.
October 7, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain thought he could ride his POW status to the White House. All he would have to do is claim to be a man of honor and exploit his POW history. But his age, befuddlement with the facts, his short fuse and his lack of any reasonable policies were peeled back by Obama. Palin is a fundamentalist warrior. Make no mistake. This is war to her and she is an extremist, a dominionist, every bit as power hungry as Dobson and Haggee and Parlsey and the whole nut gang. None of them counted on the cool, reasoned, really smart guy because he was black and that would get in his way. Only it won't because the country is scared, hungry for a leader and desparately wanting anybody the opposite of Bush.
October 7, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain thought he could ride his POW status to the White House. All he would have to do is claim to be a man of honor and exploit his POW history. But his age, befuddlement with the facts, his short fuse and his lack of any reasonable policies were peeled back by Obama. Palin is a fundamentalist warrior. Make no mistake. This is war to her and she is an extremist, a dominionist, every bit as power hungry as Dobson and Haggee and Parlsey and the whole nut gang. None of them counted on the cool, reasoned, really smart guy because he was black and that would get in his way. Only it won't because the country is scared, hungry for a leader and desparately wanting anybody the opposite of Bush.
October 7, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
McShameful did jail-time as a POW!?
I didn't know that!
October 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I've noted in other posts, I think McShame is so batshit crazy unhinged that, realizing he cannot win the old fashioned way -- by getting the most votes (even Electoral College votes) -- he's willing to unleash the crazies out there who think Obama is the anti-Christ or a muslim or a terrorist or a brother from another planet. Whether intended or coincidental, this would represent the most heinous behavior ever seen by a presidential candidate -- even outdoing is serial lying. This ought to be a matter for the FBI and the Secret Service. Seriously.
October 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't disagree with you at all. This isn't a joke. McCain's actions are reprehensible. More pundits need to call him out for it. So far many liberals are laughing at the lunacy. But the lunacy is dangerous.
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October 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Liberals" who laugh at the overtly dangerous as if it's "funny" are not "Liberals"; they are "It can't happen here" reactionaries. They deny everything -- beginning with their own racism -- that might jar their status quo obliviousness.
Don't call them lLiberals; call them what they are: blindly irresponsible.
NONE of this is "funny".
October 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure the Secret Service is paying close attention, particularly regarding Barack Obama's safety.
This is so highly irresponsible and destructive to the office of the Presidency and government in general as to constitute the very treason McCain wants his followers to believe Obama's ideology represents.
October 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're sure.
I anxiously hope.
October 8, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fucking thugs. That's what they are...thugs. That's what McCain is encouraging. That's what Limbaugh encourages every day.
BTW, that ACORN raid news on the front page is not good. Obama has past ties to the organization and the GOP has been hitting ACORN left and right for weeks. They've basically turned them into a domestic terrorist group. They even blamed them for the housing/credit crisis. Even if there is nothing there, it plays right into the GOP's hands. I'm going to visit The Corner right after I post this. I expect to find them frothing out the mouth.
Freaking ACORN - they get involved in shady voting stuff way to often. I know that 90+% of the work they do is good but, come on, can't you keep it 100% clean?
October 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
And sure enough, the top post on The Corner currently (from "Startbursts" Lowry):
"ACORN Vegas Office Raided in Voter Fraud Investigation" [Rich Lowry]
ACORN office raided, here.
October 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
And investigation is not a conviction. The last election cycle featuring an investigation/allegation against ACORN turned out to be a Rovian-politicized DOJ corruption which in the end showed them and their fake "case" the door.
In other words: ACORN did NOT do that it was accused of doing.
Does it surprise that they would be accused yet again, by the Republican'ts-be-honest of doing that the GOP opposes: registration of voters, especially poor and minority?
Chill. Stop ASSUMING the allegations true simply because you harbor a residual racism the allegations succeed in tapping.
And note: one allegation is that ACORN hired (GASP!) FELONS! Is that even possible? -- aren't FELONS IN JAIL?
Well, okay, then, then they didn't hire FELONS.
Did they hire EX-felons? I don't know; but if they did, is it ILLEGAL to hire EX-felons?
THINK, man!
October 8, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
take a deep breath and chill.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/smears-contradicted-obama_n_132098.html?page=3
October 7, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I know there's not much there re: the Obama connection. It's just a general Dem connection - "see, they cheat!" Seriously, ACORN has become the new CPUSA...a convenient bogeyman the right can throw out there. They'll ride this horse until it can ride no more. What I'm saying is that this doesn't help.
From what I've heard, the reason ACORN gets into problems like this is not so much because they're trying to generate voter fraud - I mean, come on, if Tony Romo and Terrell Owens show up at the polls on the same day in Nevada without ID, does anybody really think that will fly - but because they pay folks based on the number of registrations they generate. Now, maybe that's just some right-wing talking point that I heard but it sounds legit. There's always an asshole in the bunch that ruins it for everybody because of stupidity or selfishness.
Anyway, an unneeded distraction that is red meat for the Limbaugh/Malkin right.
October 7, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nearly everyone I see registering voters is there to get signatures for ballot measures, and these people get paid per signature of registered voters. They will register you on the spot, too. So there's the same financial incentive there, too. I see them all over the place, as well. (I'm in LA.)
October 7, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Research 2000 Nevada Poll:
Obama 50 McCain 43
http://www.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/inside_nevada_politics.pbs&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a47c0e9e3-2bcd-439f-8b7a-bfc5884a1123Post%3aa4f5bfd5-75de-4710-a96b-1da0bb404d53&sid=sitelife.rgj.com
October 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
So is this what it finally takes to end the media's love affair with McCain -- actual crowd hostility stoked by Palin? Unreal, and they wonder why they've been marginalized over the years.
October 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
"McCain has so overtly taken on the media -- they're doing it to rile the base," he continued. "And low and behold, the base is good and riled."
What a surprise. The dull-witted are grunting and coming through the village carrying clubs and torches.
October 7, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
People don't feel like they have leaders and institutions that respond to their real needs, and McCain is manipulating their anger.
Let's keep the blame where it belongs here: squarely on McCain's gutter tactics.
October 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
"People don't feel like they have leaders and institutions that respond to their real needs, and McCain is manipulating their anger."
The people McPalin are manipulating are angry -- but their anger is based upon FALSEHOODS; THAT's why they vote AGAINST their own interests, while sneering at and smearing those who are labeled "VILLAIN!" by those they vote for.
They are INSTRUCTED to hate "elitists" -- EDUCATION -- and they vote for those who work to ELIMINATE education.
October 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's only a matter of time before one or more of the more unhinged supporters attacks a reporter.
October 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
If one of these dumbshits actually makes the mistake of trying to start something at one of these rallies, I know a few reporters who would relish the opportunity to scatter some f#@king teeth on the pavement.
You cro magnons buy into the effete, latte sipping elitist stereotype at your own risk. We know AP style and what part of a pool cue works best on cracking skulls. Barring a pool cue, folding chairs do just fine.
There are scant few things your average reporter loves more than going to the bar after putting it to press, drinking a few pints and getting in a good old fashione brawl. A lot of personality has been drained from the Fourth Estate in the last few years, but there are a lot of crusty bastards out there who would love to administer what we would call an "Alabama Ass Whuppin'."
Let's dance motherf#@kers!
October 7, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I won't encourage it, but that would backfire HUGE-time!
October 8, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now the 'media' knows how liberals feel. We've been getting that misdirected hostility from rightwingers for some time now.
See what happens when you don't simply paper over all their faults and mistakes? Pure, unadulterated rage and hate. These people simply cannot be reasoned with.
October 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus ca change ...
Palin, in my view, is the most cynical VP pick since Spiro Agnew. He, also, was selected to rant against the press (those "nattering nabobs of negativity") and for "law and order."
Agnew and his boss made it to the White House. Let's hope, forty years on, that America can redeem itself for that monumental blunder.
October 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lashing out at anyone and anything. Picture the 2 year old having a tantrum. That's it. mcTantrum.
Give him Pampers.
October 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aren't those currently called Depends?
October 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is the Karma, bitches, for years of shilling for repugs. Welcome to the people side of the world.
October 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
***sigh*** I can't help but wonder if the intention is to inspire crazies to do something against Obama. I think even an "attempted" attack on Obama's safety would frighten African American voters. Is that their last hope? Violence? If they win this way, I will remain emabarassed for my country for the rest of my life.
October 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's exactly the intent. The problem with playing with such fire, though, is that it is just beyond the reach of the control of the person playing with it.
McShameful is going down spectacularly in flames of his own lighting.
October 8, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
An eleven minute video by American News Project: "Does Sarah Palin believe in the Anti-Christ? Does she believe true Christians will be whisked up to heaven sometime in the near future? Does she expect Jesus to come back to earth in our lifetimes and battle the armies of Satan?"
http://newsproject.org/videos/134
October 7, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm afraid to watch.
October 7, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's worthy of note that any number of similarly self righteous folks have followed the same route,,,, Idi Amin Dada, Mugabe, Allende, Goebbles, Trotsky, Franco, the KKK, and the list goes on,,,, McCain is known by the company he keeps.
October 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either you're ignorant or far-right to include Allende in that camp.
Allende was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED in a country with a 200-year tradition of DEMOCRACY.
It was Nixon-Kissinger who had him murdered, and replaced by Augusto Pinochet. It is PINOCHET who "disappeared" at least 30,000. It is PINOCHET you leave out of that camp.
October 8, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
FYI, McCain is riling Obama's base too.
October 7, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Attack the media as liberally biased, thus your core supporters will not believe the fact-checking done and thus McCain, Palin and the GOP in general can get away with saying anything they want.
All they got left is lies.
October 7, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
But it's the winners who write the history books. And that's what they're counting on.
October 7, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Huh? McPalin are counting on the winners who write the history books?
To do what? Lie that McPalin won the election?
October 8, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I said on other threads. Just give every reporter and camera-person a flack jacket and a helmet. Then make sure the cameras get some good shots of reporters dressed to battle gear for mcShame Vendetta Events.
This will drive home where the danger lies. Not from Barack Obama or his supporters. But from rabble rousing by the Vendetta Twins.
I predict that it won't take long before the Twins settle down.
October 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh,,,, and let's not forget the junior senator from Wisconsin, Joe McCarthy. HHHHmmmmm, wasn't he a gambler and alcohol abuser as well ?
October 7, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
What I want to know, is if as reported the Palin campaign was keeping the Press in a specified location away from the crowd, and then a "Palin supporter" hurls a racial epithet at a member of the press, would it had to have been a member of the campaign that hurled the epithet? Certainly a member of the campaign would have to have heard/witnessed it.
October 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
By and large, the folks who spew the "librul media" crap are the wingers. I don't think the middle-of-the-road voters necessarily feel that way...
It so wierd to think that McCain has become a prisoner (pun intended) of the right wing. We know he actually is pretty far right, but who told him that this was the path to victory?
October 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCains goons getting all racist and acting out against media reps? What a friggin surprise, huh? Who do we think the base is if not the lowest of the low?
As for the media getting their panties twisted into a knot, too fuckin' bad. If the news media had done their job even ten percent of the time since Nixon was elected, the USA would be a safer, healthier, happier place to live instead of a paranoid chip-on-the-shoulder excuse for a civilized nation.
October 7, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin is buying into the old school Boomer-style bogus style of campaigning. Her fellow Joneser--Obama--reflects a much more GenJones political style. Take 5 minutes and view this new video and you'll see what I mean...the video has a bunch of very credible pundits (e.g. Clarence Page, David Brooks, Howard Wolfson, etc.) talking about Generation Jones' surprisingly big role in the 2008 election: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ta_Du5K0jk
October 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
What makes this sort of thing the "Baby Boomer" style of campaigning? Sounds like more dumping on that generation to me. Anything you don't like about the way the world is, you blame on the boomers.
Grow up.
October 7, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
You neglected to point out that Dvid Brooks is NOT a credible pundit.
It's no wonder that a person who would consider him credible would blame everything on the "Boomer" generation (he does, even though he is a member of the "Boomer" generation) --
omitting mention of the fact that it was the "Boomer" generation that got the US out of Vietnam,
and GOT Nixon/Agnew,
and EXPOSED how these things worked and work to the subsequent generations who then --
cynical beyond their wet-behind-the-ears years --
blame the "Boomers" for the problems instead of seeing that the "Boomers" made it possible for such punk-neophytes to POTENTIALLY have a clue as to what is going on.
But -- alas -- David Brooks is a "credible pundit". And to think I've worked for over 40 years to prevent subsequent generations being that stupid.
October 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
these people are dumbasses for sure, but you know what? fuck the media.
they enabled so much crooked shit over the past 8 years, they deserve the shit that gets thrown at them. what, they didn't see this comming? they didn't realize that one day these crooked bastards would turn on them if it served their purpose? please.
welcome to the new america you helped create. hope you wear a flak jacket.
October 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
these people are dumbasses for sure, but you know what? fuck the media.
they enabled so much crooked shit over the past 8 years, they deserve the shit that gets thrown at them. what, they didn't see this comming? they didn't realize that one day these crooked bastards would turn on them if it served their purpose? please.
welcome to the new america you helped create. hope you wear a flak jacket.
October 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I were a reporter right now, I would be worried about my safety at these rallies. If they keep this up, it's going to explode into something ugly. Somebody's going to get hurt.
October 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
If it *does* go down that way, it sure won't look good for the GOP. Right now, they are looking to the rest of the country like the Democrats did in '68: divided, frantic, extreme and NOT like a stable governing party.
October 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
EXCEPT that the Democrats in 1968 were not racist demagogues endeavoring to incite violence agsinst not only the media but against political opponents.
And keep in mind the FACT that subsequent investigatins found that the violence was perpetrated by the POLICE in Chicago.
October 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
And keep in mind that the Democrats were not extreme: they were OPPOSED TO the US's ILLEGAL involvement in Vietnam.
The extremist/s were the Goldwater crowd, which did and will tell any lie to defend, support, and advance their racist imperialisms.
October 8, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
These right wing talking heads sure have their talking points down and they're going to play the fear card for as long as they can.
Let them play the character card. John McCain has shown throughout this race that he will do anything to win--including changing who he is, what he said he once stood for, etc. John McCain sold his soul, character, whatever you want to call it because this isn't, by a long shot, about country first. It's about putting John McCain first.
We've now seen him in action in this campaign and when he's tested, really tested, he folds. He is willing to do and say anything to get elected.
Yes, Senator McCain, when things get tough that's when your character is put to the test. And things did get tough. The campaing isn't going your way. And the result has been ugly. You've failed--not only have you failed your country, you've failed yourself.
And now we have to ask ourselves, who is the real John McCain?
October 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
McSame reminds me of the macho Nixon:
"When the tough get going, the going gets tough!"
October 8, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Get yer brown shirts over here boyz! Ah forget it. McDuck is too stupid to be a fascist. Palin, on the other hand . . . maybe a post-neo-fascist-lite. The RABBLE-cans.
October 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
To me, the demonization of the 'liberal media' always seemed like thinly-veiled anti-semitism. Am I the only one who thinks that?
October 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, yes indeedy, that's an aspect of it. It also is a smear of near-Jews, people who scored well on verbal SATs.
October 7, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Deadflowers(great song!),
In this case, I'm not so sure. McCain used to love the media and the feeling was once mutual.
McCain's just mad and he's railing against everything. He hates losing and will do anything--even if it is against everything he says he stands for--to win.
Quite simply, McCain is failing the character test.
October 7, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
The attack on the media has always been primarily anti-intellectualism. Anti-education. Anti-intelligent. Anti-"egghead" turned anti-"elitist". Anti-literacy.
And it has always carried a none-too-subtle strain of anti-Semitism.
October 8, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
When Obama comes out ahead tonight in the post-debate polling...THAT'S when this game will be over.
October 7, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
All those nutjobs should move to Alaska with Caribou Barbie and secede (sorry, no offense meant to Alaskans... I'm so saddened and angered by how un-American the MsScum camp is willing to go I just wanted to rant).
Seriously, I'm hoping all this hate rallies will badly backfire, they should.
October 7, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh and Caribou Barbie should take her granpa McScum with her so he can enjoy his retirement having beer with Putin.
(Sorry)
October 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin has to delegitimize all media in advance of this coming Friday's Troopergate findings.
It's not going to happen, but I wish Brokaw would do a vetting-and-choosing the Veep question tonight.
October 7, 2008 3:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ya think it's going to be released on Friday as scheduled? I doubt it. Some agreed to testify, which inevitably delays it (and I think that's what the McScum camp was after).
October 7, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
In some ways, I'd just as soon it stayed alive like this - it hasn't totally gone off the radar - it sits out there - no it squats out there, just within the public's range of view.
October 7, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
It will be released Friday.
Or at latest Monday -- which is even better, because closer to the election.
October 8, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, this is going to help them right over the hump into the White House.
Yup yup, you betcha!
October 7, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, but for every Milbank who sees McCain doing this on purpose there's a mike allen who still believes that McCain is doing it against his will.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14364.html
Is Mike Allen really that stupid and gullible? Really?
October 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Probably.
This is such a stupid media point. If the reporter truly thinks that, isn't there only one logical conclusion? If McCain can't even call the shots for his own campaign, how can he expect to govern?
October 7, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's so sad..."he and other reporters were pelted with boos"...I hope they're ok.
October 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah...except for the soundguy who was called a racial epithet.
October 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have often wondered, and maybe you can explain to me, why it is that (generally speaking) Republicans find churlish behavior and a lack of civility to be somehow virtuous. It makes me think that too many years of playing to the lowest common denominator has permanently decalibrated their ability to measure the damage that this corrosive attitude causes to civilisations.
October 7, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would counter that with my observation that it is the far left loons who are churlish, fanatical and out of control.
I have been harassed, spit on, had my car keyed, etc...all by raging loon Obamaniacs.
These people are irrational and frightening.
And I have yet been able to conduct a civilized discussion with any Obamaniac to try and determine why they support him. It's impossible.
October 8, 2008 12:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, "Moonpie," it couldn't be your racism, your lying, your UNEVIDENCED allegations, and your name-calling that makes it impossible for your incivility to inspire civil communications.
Stop pointing your finger away from yourself, THUG: to do so is termed -- by ETHICAL STANDARDS -- IRRESPONSIBLE.
October 8, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Would someone...ANYONE...in the press please grow a pair and call these assholes out on the simple teeny tiny fact that McCain's campaign is USING the mainstream media to garner attention they would not be receiving if they just sat back and ran a tasteful campaign!
Hey, if you're losing bad, keep your name in the spotlight by any ridiculous means necessary! Who cares what people think after the election because Americans have short-term memories anyway!
October 7, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good points! Maybe the best way for them to get back at McBrownie is to ignore him! (won't happen but nice to imagine...)
October 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, I think Chicago that Dana Milbank just called them out and no, no one is going to say that they're using the media for this kind of PR.
That old saying that any PR is good PR is only true for movie stars and rock stars and rappers. It is not true for people running for the presidency.
Jeeze, that ought to be self-evident.
This is not good news for McLame!
October 7, 2008 3:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
If any PR is good PR, Gary Hart would have been president.
October 7, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Working reporters have become stage props at Palin rallies, sorta like Trig.
October 7, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Working reporters have become stage props at Palin rallies, sorta like Trig.
October 7, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Basically yeah. But it's a far more dangerous game.
October 7, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
October 7, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
No shit. He said that ? Links, please ?
October 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sounds like the Obama camp is trying to frame the debate in such a way that any desperate tactics McCain tries will be viewed in relation to the "temper" question. Fair enough.
October 7, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
They're winding him up on purpose. Did you see what Axelrod said in the NYT?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/axelrod-says-obama-will-counterpunch-if-mccain-raises-ayres/
They're out talking smack to piss McCain off. And they're sending a very clear signal that if McCain doesn't back off with the smears, they will end his campaign tonight.
October 7, 2008 3:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is the "Get off my lawn" guy here really Obama aide Robert Gibbs?
October 7, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. It is McSlime. You haven't been following the theme of the thread?
October 8, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, by the way...a Republican pundit on CNN just let leak (in a matter of speaking) that McCain's campaign may revive a new kind of "circling wolves" terrorism ad just before the election.
Whoever was anchoring kept trying to get more inforamtion out of the guy, but he kept declining to say more. He sounded like he was trying to take it back. It was on CNN radio, so I wasn't able to see the "Oh Shit, I let it out" look on the guy's face who said it.
October 7, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's amazing how undisciplined those McCain guys are. I mean, they keep revealing and telegraphing.
That said, with or without the leak, I think the Obama camp is ready for various mud scenarios McCain is throwing at him (I guess the only thing that is out of their assumption was the Palin pick). I'm still so nervous, but I also think they know what they are doing and what they need to do.
October 7, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
That campaign leaks like a sieve - what the hell?
October 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
PPP Ohio Poll
Obama 49 McCain 43
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_Ohio_1007785.pdf
October 7, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin: "This is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America."
You're absolutely right. Barack Obama does not see America the way Sarah Palin and her followers see it. Luckily for this country, most Americans don't, either.
October 7, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tena,
I smell another debate between you and I brewing. :-)
I partially agree with you, especially with the Gary Hart analogy. BUT...Sarah Palin is nothing more than a pop culture candidate. She is the one making the press these days with her comments about Obama. McCain's posse is purposely keeping her out there making these comments so it revs things up, campaign workers in the crowd start chanting "Kill Him!," "Treason!" to get the crowd going and whatever other bullshit they can come up with to keep the media attention on full tilt.
Palin is walking the point - she's the one they have up front attracting the attention by saying the stuff that she is. McCain just sits back and welcomes the attention by doing not a damn thing.
October 7, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
But for what purpose? Wining is one thing, but what he's doing is more assassination of character. It's repugnant! You can dislike a person for any reason, big or small, but when you are set to destroy the person, that is not normal.
October 7, 2008 7:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really want to agree. I really want to believe that if any agency of the federal government has managed to survive the Smirky/Darth Destruction, it's the Secret Service.
But I dunno. If the guys on Obama's detail have been on the job since before 2000, it'll be OK. If they've been hired since 2001, he'd better think about private security.
Like maybe some former Secret Service agents who left in disgust at the Smirky/Darth administration.
October 7, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Blackwater is a Republican Shadow Military.
October 7, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Secret Service is all business, and probably one of the few competent Federal Agencies left. They measure success by keeping their protected persons safe. If something happens to Obama, they failed, and gung-ho, type A people like these don't like to fail.
October 7, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like no one was expecting a last second barrage of 9/11 and "Hey Soccer Moms, Bin Laden wants to knock on your door and harm your kids and kill your dog" ads one week before the election.
They probably have at least 25-30 tv and web ads they're sitting on for the last two weeks.
Desperation + predictability = The Republican Party
October 7, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like no one was expecting a last second barrage of 9/11 and "Hey Soccer Moms, Bin Laden wants to knock on your door and harm your kids and kill your dog" ads one week before the election.
They probably have at least 25-30 tv and web ads they're sitting on for the last two weeks.
Desperation + predictability = The Republican Party
October 7, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
How very maverickety, to rail against the media (which doesn't have high public confidence as shown in polls), rather than to support the media against all polls! Maverickety, indeed.
"Who is the tall dark stranger there?
Maverick is the name
Ridin' the trail to who knows where
Luck is his companion;
Gambling is his game..."
October 7, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Senator, I knew Brett Maverick. Brett Maverick was a friend of mine. You, Senator, are no Brett Maverick. Gabby Hayes, maybe. "
October 7, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
"As I was walking up the stair,
I met a maverick who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish, I wish he'd go away."
- Hughes Mearns, educator & poet (1875 - 1965)
October 7, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Sarah and Todd can bring in some AIP goons to beat up some reporters and "teach'em a lesson." Images of Altamont are starting to come to mind . . .
October 7, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
How about a question for McCain tonight?
"Senator, you and your running mate have been turning up your rhetoric recently, to the point where supporters have been to heard to shout "Treason!" of Senator Obama, "Kill him!" of either Senator Obama or William Ayers, and "Sit down, boy" to a black member of the media -- all in the past couple of days. Do you plan to temper your rhetoric to avoid prompting this kind of reaction?
October 7, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's official. The McPalin Campaign is too dangerous for the media to continue to cover. Maybe we won't have to read about their crap anymore...
On another note - anyone ever have this crap thrown up in their face when trying to submit a single comment?
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October 7, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had a similar problem when I first tried to comment in this thread, except the message was simply that I was not allowed to add comments. Then a few minutes later, when I tried again, it worked.
October 7, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's why the media should CONTINUE to report on the Palin Nazi rallies -- calling them what they are as they do so.
It's my view that we should elect the looniest among us, to the highest offices, by degree of lunacy, in the land -- so we can better keep an eye on them.
And so they are out of our neighborhoods BEFORE they become dangerous.
Alas, McPalin exceeds that method by being beyond looney into America-hating to a Nazi degree.
October 8, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin is the true threat to America and should be put on a 'timeout' for at least 10 years.
It scares to me think that some people believe this woman.
October 7, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The original Greek democracies included the process of ostracism. Would be great to bring that back.
October 7, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Irony, thy name is John McCain.
Once again, the would-be maverick has capitulated with the enemy. Only this time he didn't succumb to torture inflicted by his captors -- being tortured by his own vaulting ambition did the trick.
October 7, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, question. Do DEM's ignore Palin and focus on JM. Or do they start going after her questionable ties? The MSM isn't going to go after her unless BO surrogates push the issue.
Thoughts?
October 7, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Attack McCain at every instance, but use Palin as the example of his poor judgment. Especially with all the questionable antics she has done in Alaska as mayor of Wasilla and governor.
October 7, 2008 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
One needn't delve into Plain's past to come up with relevant expose.
"Troopergate" is CURRENT.
Her effort to incite racist violence is CURRENT.
How mavericky to STAY WITH THE CURRENT, instead of avoiding that by wandering into the past, eh?
October 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just a thought, but Dana Milbank being an unbridled asshole spawned hostility to the media with me.
October 7, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Many Americans have died defending our freedom. McCain and Palin attacking the press is VERY unpatriotic given that a free press is one of the main ideals for which our forefathers were willing to give our lives.
Obama and Biden should go on the offensive lambasting McCain and Palin for attacking the free press. These attacks are chilling in their anti-American implication.
I don't think Palin understands or appreciates the freedom of the press and the role of the press to ask her any question in good taste that they would like her to answer.
October 7, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
And to think all this time I thought Milbank was a woman.
I like how Sargent refers to "the Palin". Perhaps we all should.
October 7, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's only going to get uglier because Rethuglicans care more about winning and losing than they do about the good of the country. Like in 1992 if Obama is lucky enough or should I say America is lucky enough for him to win the trolls will try to do everything to destroy his presidency. Face it trolls have a core group that are just a bunch of ev il and vindictive people. They don't care about America they care about the absurd notion of keeping the middle aged or old white man in control. I can say this because I am a middle aged white man but it's sad and true.
October 7, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
The media needs to do one of two things:
#1 start filming and filing reports on the attacks against you by McCain supporters, or
#2 Stop covering their campaign altogether.
McLame and Failin' are so stupid, they don't even realize they need you guys. How do they think their message will get out without reporters- ESP?
In an attempt to fire up their base, they are inciting violence and a mob mentality. Somebody is going to get hurt.
October 7, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, but who's whining now, Dana.
October 7, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
This would be a decent tactic.
Although, I think a better one would be to make sure the cameras get a couple of good shots of these reporters being abused by McCain/Palin rally attendees, and then use it as the erfect excuse to pull out of covering their campaign altogether.
Let's see how well they get their message out, when nobody but FOX News will cover them...
October 7, 2008 7:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Brilliant, TheraP.
October 7, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read somewhere today how the Repugs have been know to plant their people in ACORN to do the illegal stuff and then they are caught and discredited? I read way too much shit everyday, can't remember where I read it. Does anyone know about this tactic/stragety...lol
October 7, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, I have no sympathy for the media.
You brought it upon yourselves with your blatent in-the-tank biases for "The One".
If I'm at a rally, I would be calling you out with "Shame" as well. I am sooo glad people are starting to talk back.
After all, it was OBAMA who told people to go out there and "get in people's faces", so you must be pleased, very pleased, with the result.
October 8, 2008 12:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yo, liar "Moonpie": PRODUCE CREDIBLE SUBSTANTIATION for that effort to SMEAR, or STFU, racist thug.
October 8, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Palin did not have an interview with the press for her first 14 days, or a press conference in her first month. Here’s a site that has tons of details including video footage of the McCain campaign saying she’ll only be allowed to talk to the press if it helps McCain win -
http://dailysource.org/palin
There’s also a section that describes McCains attempts to punish media outlets that had coverage that was not flattering to him. It’s loaded with research, videos, excerpts and links to hundreds of articles, including many from newspapers and TV stations in Alaska.
October 8, 2008 12:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
The basest base...
October 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Reply | Permalink