Habeas corpus? How...radical....

McCain is really putting a lot of money in Virginia. That in itself is a victory for Obama.

Almost there...

I spent 45 minutes today explaining how polls work to a Republican coworker today. He had heard on Brian and the Judge that the polls have a larger representation of Democrats than Republicans and were therefore suspect. I then had to explain to him that there are more registered Democrats than Republicans. Which led to an explanation about the importance of getting the base out to vote and why Reagan Democrats were such a big deal.

The frustrating part is that this guy is an Air Force Academy graduate with an MBA from UCLA. But I guess that the Kerry election disappointment taught me alot about how to interpret the political data - from spin to raw numbers. One thing I've learned is that if you are arguing that the polls are skewered then your candidate is in really, really bad shape.

look the majority of us have made up our minds already and no stinking ad is going to change it be it from obama or mccain! thank goodness there are only a few wishy washy voters out there who are looking for any baseless reason to legitimize their vote against their better interest! to them, i say "fare well".....the new younger voters need to go out en masse and cast their vote accordingly along with the dem faithfuls be they AA, hispanics, whites etc....hopefully, the numbers are high enough to drown out the naysayers!!!!!

We have had 30 years of class warfare, in which the wealthy strip-mined the middle class. The wealth has been "spread" upward.

Joe Klein

Which brings us to Joe from Ohio (sick of the other term).

If this guys is indicative of the undecideds left out there then McCain is in deep trouble. My guess is that Joe has never voted for a Democrat in his life. His primary concern is not paying taxes, calls government health insurance programs socialism and is against social security.

This guy should be changing his sons name to Joe Sara Palin McCain Plumber Jr. Of course, my guess is that he is a McCain voter who got caught in something and is using the undecided shtick to be passive aggressive against Obama. Can't blame him - I might do the same thing in his situation. "I can't decide between McCain and Obama. I have big questions about McCain's temper and choice of Palin and disagree with all his policies. But then again, I kind of disagree with Obama that the middle class needs a tax cut and that education should be a national priority. Plus, he's not pro-choice enough."

Scumbags.

F**k them and the horse they rode in on. I have NO tolerance for their B.S. today. Anyone who votes for any candidate with an "R" by their name is a fool and an enabler of this crap.

Just more of the same BS from the Republican Cheerleading squad. BOOOOOOOOOO! Let's scare the public! Bring back the terror alerts with color coding! Idiots.

I have a feeling Joe The Plumber just wanted to tell his buddies at the bar he confronted Obama when he was in his neighborhood, and probably had some embellished fantasy scenario of how it went down. I don't think he wants the media scrutiny that McCain forced on him - his whole life is going to be fair gamed if he tries to hold on to these fifteen minutes.

He already being outed as a fringe party supporter, though now is a registered Republican, fabricated his business plan, has no personal savings and had a tax lien against him, and doesn't believe in social security - and that in a mere 12 hours worth of digging. The next wave will be folks coming forward who've known him and have stories to tell.

Here is a good article on where the race stands right now according to the huge Electoral Projection Database

http://3bluedudes.com/?p=786

What's the story on robo-calls? Is there any evidence that they can be effective in persuading the persuadables?

For my part, I find robo-calling to be annoying and disruptive. Are there people out there who like getting calls like this, and hear them out?

Clearly, Karl Rove has emerged from the sewer where he dwells and has taken charge of this fetid, stinking, evil campaign. If not before January 11, then after: Can someone PLEASE find a way to get this *sshole under indictment?

There is a spelling error in Joe's last name, which leads to 2 possibilities: Either he is not a voter, like Ben Smith speculated last night, or he's a registered Republican like Toledo Blade first reported. More likely, the latter. More on Joe the Plumber at DKos. Also, check out the other links at the bottom of this story:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/16/111449/53/191/632401

Frankly, I'm surprised they're not warning voters that "Obama's sister is a thespian."

We are tracking all robo calls this election at our blog:

Blog.StopPoliticalCalls.org

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Shaun Dakin
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http://www.stoppoliticalcalls.org/index.php

"I got this robocall at home (central Ohio near Columbus)just 15 minutes ago:
I'm calling for John McCain and the Republican National Committee because you need to know that Barack Obama has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, whose organization bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a judge's home, and killed Americans. And Democrats will enact an extreme leftist agenda if they take control of Washington. Barack Obama and his Democratic allies lack the judgment to lead our country. This call was paid for by McCain-Palin 2008 and the Republican National Committee, 202-863-8500." Voice sounded the same as the young male on the "Hollywood" call two days ago.

"give civil rights to terrorists"?

What the hell does that mean? (Especially seeing as how most terrorists aren't even American citizens. . . Oh, maybe they mean Bill Ayers. . . I guess the GOP want's to deny Bill Ayers of his civil rights-- fine, go ahead and do it, what are they gonna do, arrest him? On what charge? Answer: "He's guilty of being a TERRORIST!")

I'm pretty sure this is the same one or same kind I got this morning also.

WI

But honestly, I think most people find such calls so annoying that they think to themselves, "If I get one more of these, I'll never ever vote for that party!

So I think it's actually self-defeating. Even if it's all they have...

Just rec'd the Ayers terrorist robocall in Western CO from McCain/Palin and the RNC. They even left a number at the end 202-863-8500.