McCain Says Bailout Bill He Voted For Is "Putting Us On The Brink Of Economic Disaster"
There were a couple of odd moments during John McCain's interview with MSNBC just now. The first: In a strange verbal stumble, he appeared to harshly criticize the bailout bill he voted for yesterday.
McCain was asked by the MSNBC anchor why he voted for it if it had so much objectionable pork and spending during an economic crisis that has us on the "brink of economic disaster."
"Because of what you just said," McCain replied. "This bill is putting us on the brink of economic disaster." He then went on to say that he'd fought against other pork-laden bills. Take a look...
It seems like he meant to say he'd voted for the bill, despite the pork, because we already are on the brink of economic disaster, but that's a pretty weird screw-up.
In another moment during some banter about baseball later in the interview, McCain flatly said he wasn't rich.
McCAIN: I think it's very possible that both of those teams -- both the Dodgers and the Red Sox -- could surprise everyone.JOE SCARBOROUGH: Boy, well those are two class organizations --
McCAIN: -- but that shows you why I'm not a rich man. [laughs]















He's not rich because he can't put up one of Cindy's houses on the games.
October 2, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
He needs to ask for a bigger allowance.
October 2, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hell, they are auctioning off a 15,000 s.f. manse now. You have to pout down $100 large just to bid.
October 2, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Old man needs a nap.
October 2, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. It's a slo-mo meltdown, and we're all watching it. He could barely contain his rage this morning on CNN. One has to imagine that there behind the scenes, the entire campaign is imploding. John McCain and Sarah Palin - you magnificent bastards, you. I luv ya both.
October 2, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not Rich? I thought they'd passed the $5 million threshold with wifey's beer money...
*shrugs*
October 2, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
How many clouds can a old man yell at the same time?
October 2, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's losing it. He may need to take a few days off the trail to recoup. Seriously.
October 2, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's fine. He's been threatening to suspend his campaign again, I believe to howl at clouds and whatever.
October 2, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
He means hes not rich in other ways besides money.
Hes just money rich, not rich in life... i guess
October 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
The fundamentals of his richness are strong.
October 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
How many clouds can a old man yell at the same time?
October 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
McNasty is trying so hard to calibrate what he says to his presidential ambitions that the slightest complexity in any given issue leads him to step on his own neck, IMO. Not pretty.
October 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Both McCain and Palin are experiencing "hyper-calibration gaffe syndrome." His because of ambition (fogged by anger) and hers because of ambition (fogged by lack of knowledge).
October 2, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
"hyper-calibration gaffe syndrome."
lol...great analysis, IMO. Or is that more of a diagnosis? I'll have to remember that one the next time my wife nails me for drinking a whole six-pack while mowing the lawn, instead of the 'couple' I said I had:
"But honey, I'm suffering from hyper-calibration gaffe syndrome! It's a sickness, baby!
October 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like the term too.
October 2, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Neck" is not the part of the anatomy I'm thinking of...
October 2, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, when Big Pharma comes up with a new scrip for it, they will have to come up with a catchier name. Since it's symptoms involving fogging of two different cognitive brain emotions, I nominate FoguII.
October 2, 2008 12:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with these two replies is that McCain isn't actually a dumbo; he's shown in the past that he's pretty sharp. Fatigue? Early signs of dementia? Too tightly strung from holding on to his anger? Whatever it is, it doesn't sound good.
October 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't think McLame was dumb either until he got into this campaign. Not only is he as fucked up as a chameleon on a quilt, he's not very bright at all. I didn't realize but he isn't.
October 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
....fucked up as a chameleon on a quilt... hahahaha.... ok, coffee spray out the nose, great... shit
October 2, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Second!
October 2, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
You obviously have been deliberately irngoring his Naval Academy record all these years he has been in public view.
October 2, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I honestly thing it's desperation fostered by a terrible consuming ambition for a thing to which he will probably never attain.
Read the Rolling Stone article at this link. Seems to make a lot of things about JM really clear. It's a real eye-opener
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
October 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
I HIGHLY rec that article. Must read!
October 2, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
t's true.
October 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
WTF?
He's senile but one might think his handlers - what am I saying? I don't think he lets anyone "handle" him and he's as fucked up as a chameleon on a quilt.
October 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why does that Southwest Airlines commercial with the ticket counter clerk with the two faces remind me of John McCain??
I wonder....
October 2, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I dunno. Is it because he is attracted to multiple younger women but at his age is best with only one body to fool around with?
October 2, 2008 12:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ol' Johnny can't touch wifey's beer money according to the pre-nup agreement before they got married.
October 2, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly! Cindy McCain is rich, John is a kept man!
I wonder what she may be thinking now, this was her last chance to be First Lady...unless she kicks McMaverick to the curb and hooks up with a younger politico.
October 2, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hear Charlie Crist is available.
October 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Doesn't he bat for the other team?
October 2, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
POC - Prisoner of Cindy.
His choice though.
October 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Shoot, at the rate the script for "Desperate Candidates" is going, Cindy is going to dump him for a Dakota chopper chauffer and he will be left imploring Palin to "come meet my friend, Mr. Bono."
October 2, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
BTW, I was listening to CNN Radio on Sirius driving to work today. Right after they interviewed McCain, one of the pundits said the White House MAY BE sitting on a new Bin Laden tape.
Hey, what's an October every four years without a sudden Bin Laden tape popping up??
I'm hoping Oliver Stone's "W" proves to be a nice counter-punch in a couple of weeks in making the GOP in general look even worse.
October 2, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
The way the WH is going these days, someone there might leak the email giving the orders to sit on it until October so as to have highest chance to impact the elections.
October 2, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
For something like to get any traction now it would have to be a video of Bin Laden and Obama playing quarters and cackling like drunken frat boys while taking shots every time one of them says the word 'McCain'.
October 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
My senilometer just went through the roof. What???
In other news, Joe Scarborough clearly knows nothing about baseball if he thinks that the Dodgers are a "class organization".
October 2, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
He should think about a career in absurdist theatre. He would shine.
October 2, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's already had that career!
October 2, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
They release another bin Laden tape NOW and everyone will say:
O come on! You know in '04 it finally got some traction that they kept releasing tapes for political purposes. They do it again and I think most people will laugh.
They've been crying Wolf for damn near 8 years whenever it was convenient for them. People are onto it.
October 2, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Repubs are desperate. The "fear" is that Bid Laden will endorse Obama, and freaking out the undecideds are "concerned" that Obama, with his funny name, is actually Muslin. My feeling those are susceptible to this are already voting for McCain. At best, a 1% gain. But I agree with you that a lot will see what it is and that 1% gain would be bested by a 2% or 3% gain by Obama as undecided get tired of the same old games.
October 2, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Holy shit! Obama is Muslin?
October 2, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, there are rumors out there that he might be Jewish.
October 2, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://isbarackobamamuslin.com/
October 2, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
My new favorit website. :-)
October 2, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to see a real answer on why he allowed such extreme earmarks to go through, without a peep about them even.
October 2, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Freaking awesome avatar!!!!
October 2, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like it too. I'm not sure why, though, I don't always see it. Sometimes it appears, other times it's not there...
October 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not showing for me now. I thought Dorn was being facetious.
October 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is why I always complain about Mika B. I didn't expect Joe to be particularly hard on him, but if she's supposed to represent the left in any meaningful way, why wouldn't she bring up the fact that McCain didn't even speak on the floor? Captain Earmark Killer, Paratrooper of Bipartisanship could've at least gone to the floor and said "I'm voting for this because I think this is our last, best shot at getting a bill passed, but I hate the irrelevant items and fluff that has been added unnecessarily..." He didn't do that. A responsible journalist would've asked him why he didn't give a floor speech decrying the earmarks and "pork". A cheerleader would sit next to Joe and stare dementedly into the camera...
October 2, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is insane. McCain can't make a statement without twisting the facts. And Palin's answers to questions are logically twisted, convoluted and makes no sense.
To hell with it! I'm voting for Obama and Biden. At least I what they're saying!
October 2, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's it. Vote for the guys who make sense when they talk!
October 2, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
His rich man comment doesn't even make sense. Is he saying he's not rich because he made lots of losing bets on baseball? Or that only rich men know things about baseball? Or that he's not rich and it actually has nothing to do with baseball, but rather he was looking for any old excuse to say he's not rich?
Frigging weird. How is anyone supporting this guy?
October 2, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
At least he's not rich.
October 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just a world-class asshole.
October 2, 2008 5:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has pulled an amazing feat here. He is simultaneously incoherent, "This bill is putting us on the brink of economic disaster", and lying, "I am proud of my work bring Republicans back to the table".
And you all think he isn't talented.
October 2, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
ha-HAH!
October 2, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM truly did Sen. McCain no favors by treating him so gingerly all those years. The guy may be losing it, but it's absolutely the case he's not been challenged in interview settings or commentary until very recently. The "benefit of the doubt" has turned into a not-ready-for-primetime lack of preparation that rivals, well, even Palin's. Good grief.
October 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's right - after all those years of being treated like an elder statesman and a great all-around guy McCain is apoplectic at being asked questions that challenge him in even the slightest way.
It's not really Palin who demands "deference", it's McCain. And if you ever fail to show it to him he's ready to cut your legs off.
October 2, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
You've put your finger on it!
The man believes he should never be questioned. And anything he says should be treated as "gospel." Suddenly... for the first time in a long, long time, he's in the hot seat. And boy is he on slow boil. In a pressure cooker. With the pressure too high. When he blows... it's gonna be a huge mess in the kitchen.
October 2, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's not rich because he never owned a baseball team like Bush did.
October 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think he was saying he's not rich cause he could only afford one baseball team.
October 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
How much does a good team go for these days?
October 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
He doesnt own a team but he does own a parking lot near a baseball stadium.
October 2, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure what the heck he means. But re-reading a few times I think he might be making a betting joke. He's not rich because he wouldn't have bet on the Dodgers and the Red Sox to win it all, and here they are winning Game 1 of a best of five on the road.
October 2, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's how I took it - he meant that he loses his bets.
October 2, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Acamus - McLame should never attempt to tell jokes. Jokes muttered threw clenched teeth just don't get there -
October 2, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
If he gonna do it well, he has to become the GOP version of Lewis Black.
October 2, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think what we're seeing here is "soulmates and partners" in gibberish. Instead of mcShame managing to make the Dame look halfway sane, he's being infected with Palin's language-deficits. Instead of Pygmalion, we have reverse-Pygmalion.
October 2, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
What do you think? He's complaining because Cindy has him on a tight allowance because of his gambling addiction.
And John? Please don't root for the Red Sox, we don't need another 86 year losing streak.
October 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
He doesn't know if he's rich or poor, he doesn't know how many houses or cars he has - what the hell does he know? I'm supposed to want to elect someone who has no idea about his own life and he wants the country?
October 2, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey McCain just said it, he suspended his campaign and worke hard against the other bills so that he could vote for this one because it would bring us to the brink of economic disaster...
I seriously wonder what he doesn know... what information gets fed to him... if he has fox news-like cronies spinning the world for him so it all makes sense?
October 2, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
He has no bearing, no ballast in his privileged life to tell him what it means to be rich. Most people I know who are rich, really rich, say that money is overrated. It cannot and does not buy them happiness. Money buys stuff. Money affords mobility. Money provides security. Money begets money.
But money can't buy me love.
Rosebud.
October 2, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
He lost his bearings and threw over any honorable ballast long ago. He's taking on water fast... and thank goodness for the Republic the disaster is occurring before he can do any lasting damage to the Republic.
October 2, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't joke about an Obama/Bin Laden tape - with special effects these days, even with simple video, they can cook something like that up and the average IDIOTS will think it's real.
Desperation can spark some real creativity in people, believe me!
October 2, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Howze about a computer-generated "video" of Bin Laden, Obama, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, and Rezko sitting in Bin Laden's cave, talking about how well the campaign is going, and how Paradise is just around the corner? The conversation could end with a round of "terrorist fist bumps."
October 2, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
He has obviously been taking lessons at the Sarah Palin School of Public Speaking. He must be a very good student because every day he makes less and less sense.
October 2, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Reverse-Pygmalion Effect.
October 2, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
The house dems were on board, they added the pork so the repubs would sign on. It was discussed, but no clip is available as yet. Scarborough accused Larry O'Donnell of injecting partisanship when he was explaining what happened. No one could make this up, hope that clip shows up. Scarborough is jerk of the year feining shock the Republicans would accept pork at a time like this.
October 2, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does McCain's anti-pork position mean he is Muslim?
And he is still accusing Obama of "phoning it in". Was that why McCain was so peeved when Obama shook his hand on the senate floor? Obama was on his cell "phoning it in"? How rude young people are these days! McCain should have installed an auto-kill when speaking to elders on those Blackberries he invented.
October 2, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
The freeze-frame above once again catches him in one of his weird left-eye moments.
October 2, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did anyone ask him if he'd gotten around to reading any of it before he voted?
October 2, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is he saying he's not "rich" in the "having class" realm?
October 2, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
How can we believe anything that comes out of his mouth. This is getting pretty pathetic. Oh, I forgot, he's "100% honest".
October 2, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
btw: what does it say about his leadership abilities when he admits he suspended his campaign, flew to Washington, and talked the Republicans into what?...NOT voting for something he was pushing?
October 2, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
LMAO!
October 2, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yikes. In reply to Tiny.
October 2, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the big gaffe here is giving them a sound bit about he's proud to have voted against the prescription drug bill.
While he may be proud of that vote its not the kind of thing that would look good when used in a commercial in say .... Florida
Or anywhere for that matter. That program is very popular with family members in PA who are only leaning Obama. Way to push them all the way over!
October 2, 2008 12:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder, did McCain purposefully say that this bill is putting us on the brink of economic disaster? The public, both left and right have been very unhappy about this bill, including a lot of blue collar voters (who can be easily manipulated with nonfacts). Might McCain be seeing this unhappiness and use it to his advantage with a new campaign line to blame this huge bill "that is putting us on the brink of economic disaster" on the dems\Obama (and of course noting that the repubs didn't really want to pass)? I read something about the RNC taking out a 5 million dollar ad campaign critizing the bill and that it will begin running as soon as the bill passes the house. Just wondering.
October 2, 2008 1:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not only that, but apparently he gambles on Major League sports which is illegal I think everywhere but Nevada. Also, the religious right is VERY anti-gambling. If McCain has been gambling illegally, then that is information the public should know about.
October 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://repptide.com/commenting.php?value=5568 >:
"Because of what you just said, Mika, that this bill is putting us on the brink of economic disaster there were plenty of other bills that I fought against, voted against. Well, the bill that the medicare prescription drug program, I voted against it, because it didn't -- because of the fact that it wasn't paid for. We're laying the cost on to future generations of Americans. I fought against plenty of bills. I am proud of my work, suspending my campaign, coming back to Washington, getting the Republicans at the table, which we were not, improving the bill, and I believe it will pass. Senator Obama phoned it in."
"... brink of economic disaster,..."
Really?
What has pushed us? Iraq? Afghanistan?
"... why I'm not a rich man."?
Just a jiggle, low.
Busch-McCain-Palin-wail, fine whine.
All of this continual war is forcing us to borrow more & more from a communist dictatorship. More war John McCain. When I had been a child, there had been a Republican Party that had called that "communist domination", "communist satellite". My elementary textbooks had had maps designating Russia, China, & Yugoslavia, as huge red blotches, or as huge black blotches. Yugoslavia had been frequently differentiated w/ stripes, as the less bad communists. I want us to cut-back the Pentagon, in part that we would purchase less war, more healthcare, housing, et-al. But, also, to reduce domination by any dictatorship.
Congress lists who they would contend are dictatorships; on that list, we should not borrow money, lend money, sell weapons, gift weapons.
We should quit being a debtor nation. &, then, there's electoral-college abolition; I'm an abolitionist.
How is it that Sarah Palin's squeaky squealy voice, last night, suddenly became nearly mellow? How is it that she suddenly became intelligent? She even complimented Joe's National Guard Attorney General son. She managed to evade the answers of the healthcare tax, & mortgage. Is she completely, totally, act? All act?
They do seem to be magicians; everything that they do is diversion. No there, there.
Thank You.
October 3, 2008 3:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/26987291 >:
“The Senate may have taken us hostage,” said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman [chairperson] of the Banking Committee. “They may have us at arrow-point, and we may have to vote for this even with their obnoxious provisions.”
“They may have us at arrowpoint,..." per the various earmark taxbreak provisions.
To paraphrase Sam Taliaferro Rayburn:
A trillion here, a trillion there, very soon we're talkin' **fake** money.
Thank You.
October 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
We must revive the Works Projects Administration | Works Progress Administration.
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/10/house_passes_bailout_bill_with.html >:
Bainbridge Township Republican Steven LaTourette said the size of the package was an arbitrarily large number picked by the Treasury Department, and that he was upset by "pork" projects the Senate added to the bill.
"This bill left the House and it went over to the Senate and they larded it up," LaTourette said in a speech on the House of Representatives floor. "One-hundred-and-ninety-two million for rum. I guess we got the pirate vote in November."
Democrats Marcy Kaptur of Toledo and Dennis Kucinich of Cleveland also remained opposed to the bill.
"Why did we give $700 billion bailout to Wall Street without fixing what caused the problem in the first place?" Kucinich asked in a speech on the House of Representatives' floor. "Why did we rig the free markets for security fraudsters? Why didn't we explore alternatives to let Wall Street solve its own problems?"
http://ingeb.org/songs/fifteenm.html >:
From a 1901 Broadway musical
Allison and Waller
1. Fifteen men on a dead man's chest
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
Drink and the devil had done for the rest
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
The mate was fixed by the bosun's pike
The bosun brained with a marlinspike
And cookey's throat was marked belike
It had been gripped by fingers ten;
And there they lay, all good dead men
Like break o'day in a boozing ken
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
October 3, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink