Poll: McCain Down 13 Points, Negative Campaign Backfiring
The new CBS/New York Times poll has nothing but bad news for John McCain. Barack Obama is ahead 52%-39% among likely voters in the horse-race, but the internals are perhaps even worse.
The poll shows the extent to which McCain's negative campaign has backfired. Obama's favorability rating stands at 52% favorable to 31% unfavorable, way ahead of John McCain's 39%-46% rating. In terms of the candidates' personalities, 62% of registered voters said they felt comfortable with Obama, while only 34% said they feel uneasy about him. The numbers for McCain: 47% comfortable, 49% uneasy.
Obama also has an edge on who is more trusted to handle a crisis, with 49% of registered feeling confident and 47% feeling uneasy about him. McCain is at 46% confident to 51% uneasy.
And this question suggests that McCain's attacks on Obama over income redistribution could be big loser:
Do you think it is a good idea or a bad idea to raise income taxes on households and businesses that make MORE than $250,000 a year in order to help provide health insurance for people who are not covered by health insurance?Good Idea 62%
Bad Idea 33%
{{{{{Happy Dance!}}}}}}
October 23, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
So long coming....
October 23, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
While you are dancing, take a look at Rick Noriega's new ad called Ditch.
Ditch
I'm dreaming of a blue Texas.
October 23, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I got that email. It's good -
I'm dreaming, too.
October 23, 2008 8:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I need to see a Texas poll soon, very soon.
October 23, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
amen!
October 23, 2008 10:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lookin' good, O.
Lookin' real good.
October 23, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still more evidence of what Josh wrote about the GOP regressing into its sordid past -- especially the "socialism" charge and its well-deserved failure to resonate.
October 23, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain=39% Favorable to 46% unfavorable?
Ouch!
October 23, 2008 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bob Dole's looking better with every new desperate stunt and every passing day.
October 23, 2008 8:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to jinx anything, but is there really any conceivable way a candidate could win the presidency with a plurality unfavorable rating?
McCain is gonna get spanked bad.
October 23, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
History will be kind to Bob Dole, and just brutal to John McCain.
October 23, 2008 11:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you think it is a good idea or a bad idea to raise income taxes on households and businesses that make MORE than $250,000 a year in order to help provide health insurance for people who are not covered by health insurance?
That sounds like one of those fox news poll questions, not a smear though.
I'd be wary of NYT/CBS poll. I think it helps in setting a favorable narrative for Obama.
I find more comfort from I'm the state polls coming from SurveyUSA and Rasmussen today.
October 23, 2008 8:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess we need a few of you glass-half-empty guys, just to keep us from going overboard here.
October 23, 2008 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
October 23, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not glass empty. I'm over excited. I'm so ready for the good news, it scares the hellauvtame
I have picture of Obama victory night speech playing in my mind all day.
But I'm excited because of the pictures I saw of Obama rally in Indiana rally today, or state-wide polls showing Obama in the lead. I just think NYT/CBS poll may be skewed a little because of its brand name.
I'm axious sure, but my comment was not the undermine Obama's lead. I'm saying I find comfort from seeing the same thing from other sources.
October 23, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I should use the preview button, but again it takes forever. I'm sorry for the errors.
October 23, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeez-Louise, this is becoming a tsunami. If it plays out the way it looks now -- a big if -- it will be a once-in-a-lifetime event.
October 23, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain political career, it seems, will end the way it started.
1. go in without doing your homework
2. get shot down
3....
October 23, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go gently into that dark night.
(apologies to Dylan)
October 23, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, Ambinder says the most reliable Fla. poll has Obama up 7...
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/seven_point_lead_for_obama_in.php
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
October 23, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the news I can take to bed.
October 23, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
12 days remaining and all they have left is the slime patrol. And it's backfiring. But they won't stop because they don't know anything else to do.
And meanwhile Barack just looks better and better to more people.
October 23, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
♪ ♫ The Twelve Days of Obama... ♫ ♪
October 23, 2008 8:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain 2008=Dole 1996
October 23, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
No. Dole didn't descend into the slime that McCain has. Dole was/is a decent man. John McCain has demonstrated that he either lacks any sort of moral compass or he's completely under the thumb of the assholes running his campaign (which, come to think of it, would happen if the first part were true).
October 23, 2008 8:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I read today that Dole - knowing his fate - went out of his way to campaign for endangered down-ticket senators and representatives. I don't know if that is true, but if so, I admire that. This is absolutely contrary to the McCain approach of "ticket first."
October 23, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
"ticket first"? I like it. Just wait until everyone starts writing books. Prediction: This ain't going to be pretty.
October 23, 2008 9:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I vote for no moral compass and very little brain, frankly.
October 23, 2008 9:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
All those years of over-indulging in spirits.
October 23, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hotbar said:
McCain 2008=Dole 1996
Nope.
McCain 2008=Goldwater 1964
October 23, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's my hope...
Not *as bad* as Goldie but, pretty damn bad. Like the Congresswoman (?) from AZ said at the Dem Convention, "lets make sure McCain follows in Barry's footsteps". (or whatever...)
October 23, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goldwater, except without the intellectual coherence and personal integrity.
October 23, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"nothing but bad news" here for mcShame
How sweet it is!
October 23, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
HAHAHAHA...it just gets better and better. At this rate, the Repugs will go the way of the Passenger Pigeon*.
*Some estimate that there were as many as five billion Passenger Pigeons in the United States at the time Europeans arrived in North America.
During the 19th century, the species went from being one of the most abundant birds in the world to extinction. At the time, Passenger Pigeons had one of the largest groups or flocks of any animal, second only to the desert locust. They became such a threat to farmers that in 1703 the Roman Catholic bishop of Quebec actually formally excommunicated the species.
October 23, 2008 8:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmmm.... excommunicating mcShame....
And exorcising the Dame?
October 23, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ex-communicated a *species*? Now that's pretty impressive. Why did I leave the Church?
October 23, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
BREAKING: The McCain camp finger pointing is well under way
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14891.html
October 23, 2008 8:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
“If you really want to see what ‘going negative’ is in politics, just watch the back-stabbing and blame game that we’re starting to see,” said Mark McKinnon, the ad man who left the campaign after McCain wrapped up the GOP primary.
These vermin really are all about attacking other people - not just Barack, not just Dems and liberals, but even their own people. It's not just a tactic - it's a way of life for them.
October 23, 2008 8:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
To be fair, its not like Democrats have never been known to plate up some fava beans, decant a nice chianti and throw a good ol' cannibalistic frenzy after losing big or losing hard.
October 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Choice quote from the article about Palin being the future GOP standard-bearer:
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Not just because of my feelings toward Palin. After this election, the GOP will need a reboot, and I really cannot see her stepping up to the plate. Besides, she's been bruised pretty badly in this election.
October 23, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seconded.
October 23, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. The Weekly Standard. They've got the best crystal ball around. LOL^3
October 23, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
But, they've FINALLY found the WMD. Hey everybody, over here! LOL
October 23, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
October 23, 2008 10:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it looks like they've finally found the WWD instead. $150,000 worth of it.
October 24, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Fred Barnes is one of the guys Palin makes all hot and bothered in Jane Mayer's account of how she got chosen.
She's like Hillary (high negatives) without the brain. Plus she'll have a big "L" stamped on her forehead after Nov. 4.
October 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG. My mind tells me this is going to be an overwhelming win but the heart damaged by recent presidential disappointments is hesitant, fearing disappointment. An upside-down condition to fit the upside-down world we've been living in as of late. The reality-based majority has finally had enough.
October 23, 2008 8:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Deep breathing helps. Also there's this:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=6099518
Now this is kind of cool!
October 23, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
"... nothing but bad news for John McCain."
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR SARAH PALIN!!!!
October 23, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
My work, more love, more power, to make it true!
October 23, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
More bad news for McLame - it's looking more and more like Princess Sparkle Starlight is stabbing him in the back. LOL She's been campaigning against him somewhat with her followers.
LOLOL!!!!
I'm hearing this on Olbermann.
This wasn't predictable or anything. The Barracuda is taking center stage.
October 23, 2008 8:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe someone should tell the 'cuda that the cords of her parachute have rotted through while sitting in all of that slime. Oops, too late, she jumped.
October 23, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Been hearing that on a number of news sites hinting Palin is paving a road to her own bridge to nowhere and making sure if they don't win it will be all McCain's fault not hers.
October 23, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fortunately in 2012 Caribou Barbie will just be damaged goods, appealing only to the foaming-at-the-mouth right wingers.
October 23, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT: McCain isn't even gonna show up for his own campaign party!
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/23/politics/horserace/entry4541674.shtml?tag=rightRail;rightRailInner
McCain's final 'screw you' to the media at large. Only hard-core tire swingers allowed...
October 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are we not talking about the mugger story?
October 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm waiting for it to be proven a hoax, which it undoubtedly will. CNN is reporting that PGH Police will not substantiate the story.
That girl is a cross between Tawana Brawley and Morton Downey Jr., with a dash of Phil Parlock thrown into the mix.
Palin already called her. I'm hoping that McHate has a full day to make hay with the story before it's proven false.
October 23, 2008 8:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Michelle Malkin thinks it's bullshit.
I'm reserving judgment, but definitely leaning toward fake.
October 23, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't believe one word of it - not one word.
Mugged and a letter carved in your face - no surveillance cameras, no medical attention at the site - right.
She's lying.
October 23, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look at the photo: the "B" is backwards. Why would someone make it a backwards B?
Unless the person was looking in the mirror as they were doing it.
October 23, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh shit. If this is true I am truly pissed off. But that B in the mirror shit makes unbelievable sense.
October 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
O exactly.
I knew it - I read a novel in about 1970 in Redbook Magazine about a girl who carved the initials of this musician in her forehead. Of course they were backwards.
I've never forgotten that stupid story.
October 23, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or it could be upside down. If she was lying on the ground after the attack, while the attacker was standing/crouching at the top of her head, if he's scratching a "B" from that perspective, it would look the way it does now.
October 23, 2008 9:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jonze - you are wrapping her up in pretzels here and it totally flunks Occam's Razor.
Totally - given the evidence we have - she's lying.
October 23, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
True, Jonzey. Or if he were standing to her left it could be a drawing of tits. Or if he were standing to her right it might be the Grand Tetons.
But my guess is she did it to herself.
October 23, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm with Jonze on this. The backwards B doesn't bother me and what Jonze said is a perfectly plausible explanation.
For me it's more just how the B looks (that it's soooo superficial, I'd think the guy would have broken the skin at some point) and how fake the black eye looks.
October 23, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly my thougts, what a perfect B while beating and holding this person down, I mean, was she even fighting back. Attacker must have had an 'A' in penmanship.
October 23, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You really believe her?
October 23, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dont really care much about this story, but the girl was blogging an hour before the attack that she was searching for a bank of america ATM...it took me 3 seconds to look online that there are only 3 bank of america atm's in the pittsburgh area...and there are exactly 0 bank of america atms in bloomsfield pa, where this happened.
you can go to the bank of america webpage to search the atms in the area.
here is the report from her own blog:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1023083twitter1.html
Who fuckin blogs that they are searching for a particular atm, then is mugged at said atm, when, if you are clever enough to blog what you are doing, you dont have the sense to search where the bank of america atm in the fucking shitsburgh area are??????
October 23, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dont really care much about this story, but the girl was blogging an hour before the attack that she was searching for a bank of america ATM...it took me 3 seconds to look online that there are only 3 bank of america atm's in the pittsburgh area...and there are exactly 0 bank of america atms in bloomsfield pa, where this happened.
you can go to the bank of america webpage to search the atms in the area.
here is the report from her own blog:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1023083twitter1.html
Who fuckin blogs that they are searching for a particular atm, then is mugged at said atm, when, if you are clever enough to blog what you are doing, you dont have the sense to search where the bank of america atm in the fucking shitsburgh area are??????
October 23, 2008 10:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama went down a point, he was up 14 before. THE WALLS ARE CRUMBLING AROUND US!!!
October 23, 2008 8:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
If these 10-13pt polls spreads hold, we are looking at a potential landslide. The CBS/NYT internal poll shows Obama wining STRONG support from Bush backers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/us/politics/24poll.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin
October 23, 2008 8:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately according to Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com, CBS/NYT polls are among the worst over all. Food for thought.
October 23, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought so.
October 23, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
The difference with that is they aren't the only one showing such a wide lead for Obama.
October 23, 2008 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
But...but DID you see the AP poll? Obama's in biggggggggggg trouble!
Sorry, just trying to fill the troll void here...
October 23, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
David Axelrod tore that down tonight on Countdown.
October 23, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
>But...but DID you see the AP poll? Obama's in
>biggggggggggg trouble!
Today's Christian Science Monitor and yesterday's Blomberg ran stories, treating that poll as valid.
October 23, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry but poll data just doesn't do it for me. It's too much of a definite maybe that I can't take to the bank and cash in on. I need substance to get me excited in these final days.
October 23, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Serious though, they say 6 percent of people voting for McCain won't do it because he is black. Is it that they will remain racist or, after I believe Obama manages to do good for america and steer us towards the right direction over these next 4 years, will their ignorance be quelled and will they vote for O in 2012? If that's the case 2012 may be just as fun as 2008.
October 23, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Respondents answered the way they did for good reason. I hadn't seen the tragic fallout of the Bush policies up close until today. It's just unfathomable how this can have been allowed to happen.
A client I serve is moving out of the county into a family shelter. There are three children in this family. The mother has MS. There's no where else to go.
I learned my neighbor is back in the hospital after having a third surgery to remove a tumor. Unsuccessful. She almost bled to death at home the other night. She and her husband took out a second mortgage on their home to buy a new roof and a newer model car several years ago. They're frugal conservatives and they are in big trouble.
The house across the street has been foreclosed on. They have three children. I knew they'd had problems for a while. I didn't know it was this bad until I realized the other day no one lived there anymore. A neighbor said they just walked off and left the house.
This shouldn't be happening. But suddenly it's all around -- and it's alarming.
Change can't get here soon enough.
October 23, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Being a Democrat is walking a mile in another person's shoes. You know first hand the pain and discomfort they feel. Its' a lesson conservative fear and loath, and avoid at any and all costs cause it would imply they are no better than the rest of us. We all need to share the burden and suffering if we're going to pull this country up by its bootstraps.
October 23, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
October 24, 2008 5:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't Palin (along with the First Dud) being deposed in the Troopergate investigation tomorrow?
My hope is that, once she's back in Alaska, her ethical lapses and dishonesty come home to roost as well, rendering her damaged political goods--too rotten to touch with a hot poker.
October 23, 2008 9:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
O I think so.
She's literally on the Road to Nowhere.
I could list all the reasons, but mainly lately she started letting the Sparkle Starburst persona slide and we've seen the real Sarah - The overdressed Barracuda.
Anyone who thinks for one mofoing second that she will give those clothes to charity - well I know a bridge in Alaska that I can get for you reasonable...
October 23, 2008 9:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
If she doesn't it will be a campaign issue (GOP Primary) in four years (or AK Gov battle in two). And it's not like she'll be able to wear them around without Alaskans noticing.
October 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I expect a pack of angry wolves will detain GunSlingin' Sarah. She'll disappear and McStain will unveil his last ditch October Surprise. But who will the Savior VP be? My money's on Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda, who bills himself as descended from Jesus and the true messiah returned to earth. See Religulous for an unforgettable interview, and to rekindle your faith in the power of bullshit.
So watch out. Jesus is coming to save McSmote.
October 23, 2008 9:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the problem, Tena. How is she gonna wear the clothes in Alaska without them being recognized? And if she ventures to the lower 48, people will also be on the lookout for those clothes. Those styles likely have a shelf-life.
So as much as she wants them.... her thievery would be n-o-t-i-c-e-d. To her undying karmic consequences.
October 23, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
OH MY GOD! Stewart was fucking hilarious last night.
"$150,000?!?! What the hell did she buy, the original thriller jacket off ebay...[cut to picture of her in the red leather jacket]...okay, didn't see that coming."
October 23, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, she'll always have Randy the Fisherman and Billy the Bobsledder around to "touch her with a hot poker".
October 23, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Geezy peezy. Wish you all could come here the night of November 4 and dance in the street of DC. Bring your pots and pans.
October 23, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pots and pans... what a great idea!
I have a feeling, Kate O, that total strangers will hug each other that night! People will have tears streaming down their faces. Men will cry. People will dance. And Chicago will party like there's no tomorrow!
New World coming...
October 23, 2008 9:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Darn, I just saw there were polls taken of Texas and AR and O is down in both, SHIT!
October 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I never look at Texas polls. I know better. ;)
October 23, 2008 9:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
NY Times endorses Obama (as we knew they would). Beautifully written.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24fri1.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
The last eight years was a long nightmare... I can't wait for it to be over!
October 23, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
OBAMA SHOULD BE LEADING BY TRIPLE DIGITS!!!! WHY CAN'T HE CLOSE THE DEAL IN UTAH AND ARIZONA???!!!! HE IS UNELECTABLE!!!
October 23, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously -- I saw some people at kos talking about Arizona the other day, as it seems (according to them) a reputable local pollster is predicting it's going to be much closer there on the election day. Kos people also were also saying the Obama ground game was in full swing there.
It's not gonna happen, I think, but McScums loss in his home state would be soul-crushing for him, and though it would be icing on the cake, how great it would be if Arizona makes him pay for destroying so many things we value.
I certainly would LOVE to see that happen.
October 23, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
JEEEEZUZ - Voter registration in Michigan is 98% of eligible people.
98%!
How many years have we heard about how apathetic we are and how it's the end of democracy?
I'm just stunned. This is stunning.
October 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am Impressed, in the inteligence of Americans. Sadly, most immigrants have had a positive experience in being an American. How about native Americans. Indians, Eskimo, Alieut, Hawaiian...So sad. Every one else won!
October 23, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes I know - it's sickening.
In some areas though, some of them are creeping back in very surprising ways. Look at the Navajo Nation - their birth rate is 5 to 6 times caucasian American birth rates. They have a high infant death rate, but not that high. Their population has exploded.
But the real irony, to me, is that Mexico is slowly retaking all the territory it lost in the Mexican-American War.
I find it funny. That and the ultimate irony - the Okhay Owinge have a casino. It's called: The Seven Cities of Gold. That cracks my shit up everytime I pass it. The Spanish rampaged through here looking for those 7 Cities of Gold and the people they conquered are busy trying to get some of their own back.
October 23, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn. That's awesome. Thanks for that, Tena.
October 23, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I meant the irony of the name of course, not the infant mortality....
October 23, 2008 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pound for pound we have shed more blood for our country!
October 23, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
And maybejustmaybe Obama will put someone in Interior who'll pay out some of those millions that are owed. Bill promised & then didn't make it happen. And then of course there's Peltier...
October 24, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
just a reminder: get out there and sweat and bleed and work your asses off for less than two weeks. THIS can be our president:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_9OhVMHIuO4
October 23, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
We had a convoy of vets for the O on Tuesday, 52 of us put it together, even though our state is for the Big O.... We don't take it for granted!
October 23, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outstanding.
October 23, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
we live in northern virginia, aka communist country.
my wife went to vote absentee in person today, and she said that when she got out of the car, another voter walked in with her. she said that he must have seen our obama bumper sticker, because he said, "this is the first time in my life that i'm voting for a democrat ... my whole family is republican."
virginia WILL go blue this election.
October 23, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, God. I miss Matthew Weaver so much about now.
What's happened to fogu2 as well? I've been busy and haven't been looking at the posts so much lately
October 23, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
O fogu posted a sad goodbye weeks ago in which I believe I was blamed for having him banned - which was news to me, but I'll take credit. :)
He reappeared under a different handle for a couple of days and I haven't seen him since.
October 23, 2008 9:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Hewson? Notice the absence...
October 23, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hewson is slightly psycho.
I finally went to his blog and posted a comment asking him to stop spamming these threads. He flipped out, went to First Draft looking for me and was so obnoxious there Athenae banned his ass.
October 23, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
You just have to wonder about people like that. Wandering the web in search of their detractors, or assumed detractors.
It was so strange that day or two that he tried to come here and make a show of being a TPM denizen. He probably had no idea the degree of frustration that awaited him. I even thought he had invented 1 or 2 aliases, to reply to him with accolades for his nonsense.
Yes, he's nuts.
October 23, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I've seen psycho trolls run 2 or even 3 identities and hold conversations with themselves on a thread. It's fecking weird.
October 23, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Matty? Guessing his head exploded about a week after McCain's convention bounce evaporated.
It was almost like a clinical study. He was more or less sane until Hillary started losing, then the worse things got for her, the more was was consumed by that bizarre PUMA-with-a-Y-Chromosone thing where he believed he had some deep insight into Obama's troubling, troubling character that only he could see. Just like those nutters who run Hillaryis44 and and Captains Quarters. Had his own half-assed crazyhead website and everything.
The only two times I ever saw Josh dive into the comments to respond negatively to a specific commenter was in response to a couple of Weaver's rants. Both times it was like a major "whoa!"
October 23, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would love to hear from gotalife right now. Just to hear some good quality trolling.
But I do miss ny new buddy Hewson, who just couldn't resist breaking into lecture mode, and regurgitating something he read 10 minutes prior to logging on.
I fuckin' love the intertubes!
October 23, 2008 11:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Update on my GOTV action in Minneapolis. I'm taking two shifts to drive people to and from polls. The GOTV org I'm working for needed wheel chair accessible van drivers more than they needed car drivers, so I'm going that route.
My boss heard I was taking the day off to do this, and he told me *not* to use any vacation time; also encouraged me to find five other people to pitch in. If we get 40 hours of volunteer time my company will donate $1500.
The times they are a changin'. This is getting better every day!
October 23, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's so great =- thank you motocat!!!
October 23, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your boss sounds like a great guy, please tell him I thought so, very impressive!
October 23, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for what you're doing! Good luck with the volunteers.
October 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hooorah!
October 23, 2008 10:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey - you did great too - a whole convoy for O -that rocks.
October 23, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
We had beer and chairs in the back of the VANS!
October 23, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT: Obama on Wright and the Philadephia speech-
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/spot-decisions.html#more
When's the last time we had a teacher as President? Wilson? (LBJ taught school for a year right out of college in a small Mexican-American school in Cotulla, Tx)?
October 23, 2008 10:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG! A new Obama ad in Spanish, with Barack speaking it fluently. This one will close the deal with the hispanic community.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZhu8SaodPw
Rough translation:
A message from Barack Obama.
We share a dream. Working hard, your family can succeed. If you get sick, you can have medical insurance. That our children can get a good education, mo matter if they're rich or poor. This is the american dream. I'm asking for your vote, not only for me and the democrats, but to keep that dream alive for you and your children.
I'm Barack Obama and I'm approve this message.
Obama-Biden'08: El cambio que necesitamos.
October 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah iam not the best at speaking Spanish (ok, i suck at it) but that sounded pretty good.
October 23, 2008 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Just wow.
October 23, 2008 10:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's no matter instead of mo matter. My bad.
October 23, 2008 10:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
And did you see that comment under the video:
Obama speaks better Spanish than George Bush speaks English.
Awesome!!!
I have to say, I thought in this long journey with Barack since my support in Nov 2007, I thought my enthusiasm would fade somewhat along the way. But on the contrary, I like him more and more.
There was passion in his spanish.
October 23, 2008 11:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word. He really spoke Spanish well, not sounding like he's trying to do so.
About the Bush comment; As Jon Stewart usually says: Nailed it!
October 23, 2008 11:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Punahou has one of the best Foreign language labs in our State of Hawaii!
October 24, 2008 12:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
McScum keeps copycatting Obama throughout the campaign, but this one, I bet Scum cannot...
Just wow!
October 23, 2008 11:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will Ferrell back playing President Bush
Tina Fey playing Shara Palin
Need I say more?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/will-ferrell-back-as-bush_n_137399.html
October 23, 2008 10:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. SNL takes the gloves off!
October 23, 2008 11:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The "Look at my face when you are in the booth" was FREAKING HILARIOUS.
October 24, 2008 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is already bothering me that I know Obama will be very gracious and say nice things about McCain during his victory speech on Nov. 4th.
I'd like him to acknowledge what a low life, scum filled campaign McCain ran, and wish him an obscure future.
Guess that's why I'm not a political advisor.
BTW there is an incredible 911 call from McCain's brother calling 911 about a traffic jam he was caught in. Tells the 911 operator, "Fuck You,"
These repugs really have a weird sense of entitlement.
October 23, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look at SUSA's poll of MN-06! (TPM front page)
October 23, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe what I'm seeing. People seem to be rejecting the politics of fear.
October 23, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
This assumes that they will make a rational choice. She'll serve out her term in Alaska and go to Fox, or something Fox like.
October 23, 2008 11:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank God ! I sent El $50 just because this woman is a disgrace to her colleagues and an insult to America.
It is nice to see people act and deal with wack jobs like this....
October 24, 2008 12:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
The winner of the GOP primary in 2012 will tell exactly who is in control of the party. It was wonderfully discussed on Countdown. Either these intellectuals who back Obama permanantely leave the party or they end up trying to go back and take control. If they dont, the Repub party will remain a minority of lunatics, racists, asshole rich people and biggots(not all, just alot of them).
October 24, 2008 12:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's not a "Party" It is America!
October 24, 2008 1:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
The whole country is gonna party! All across the country and around the world, people will run out into the street to celebrate following the first network calling the election for Barak Obama.
All-out euphoria and bedlam around the globe!
Here at Maggie's Ranch we have fireworks bought back in July and we're gonna have a huge bonfire in the middle of the driveway. And we'll be blasting away with Neil Young's 'Living With War.'
October 24, 2008 2:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Look a little more closely at the CBS/NYT poll.
It suggests that Dems are hypermotivated and Republicans are demoralized. In particular, look at how the numbers are affected by the likely voter filter.
The pool of registered voters is 37% democrat, 31% repugnant, and 32% Indies. But the pool of likely voters is 41% dem, 28% repugnant, and 31% indie. (but I'm not sure I'm interpreting this right because I'm taking % of weighted rather than % of "effective" likely voters)
This suggests that if Dems stay hypermotivated and Repugs stay demoralized, then Dems will win by a large margin. For sure, I can't see anything that could possibly dampen the enthusiasm on our side. But I'm not sure that this poll has the level of enthusiasm on the Repugnant side correct. I would therefore take this poll with a large grain of salt.
UNWEIGHTED WEIGHTED
Total Respondents 1152
Total Registered voters 1046 1010
Registered voters – Republicans 326 287
Registered voters – Democrats 391 411
Registered voters – Independents 329 312
*Effective Likely Voters 771
*Every registered voter is included in the likely voter model, and is assigned a probability of voting, which is used to calculate the likely voter results. The sum of these probabilities is the effective number of likely voters.
October 24, 2008 2:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain volunteer may have faked hate crime...
October 24, 2008 3:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
AP, Buenos Aires- Oct.24
Speaking from a secret location, Elvis Presley today announced that he would be voting for Obama.
" Mah frens say ahm actin' wild as a bug,
Ahm in love, uh, ahm all shook up.", said Mr. Presley. Asked for his opinion of the McCain/Palin ticket, Mr. Presley said: "Return to sender."
Late News- Speaking from the set of The Muppet Show, Sam the American Eagle announced that he would be voting for Obama.
October 24, 2008 4:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
First we had Joe The Plumber. Now we've got Joe The Foulmouthed Brother who calls 911 every time he accidentally mixes up Preparation H and his prescription Ex-lax. ("Gee, why'd they start putting it in a tube?")
October 24, 2008 5:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just a side Note Guys Reports here in Florida 4 Days into Early Voting Over 1 Million Ballots have been Cast already.Keep them Comin Guys we are Gonna WIN this Thing!!!
October 24, 2008 6:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
I saw David Gregory this morning on MSNBC, and he suggested that the majority of Americans are more confident that McCain will capture Bin Laden.
I can't find that data in the CBS/New York Times poll, so what poll did Gregory get that information from, or did he just pull it out of his butt?
October 24, 2008 7:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sen. Obama's Lord and Savior has promised him:
No weapon forged against you [ Barack Obama] will prevail, and you [ Barack Obama] will refute every tongue that accuses you [ Barack Obama] . This is the heritage of the servants [ Barack Obama] of the LORD, and this is their [ Barack Obama] vindication from me," declares the LORD. - Isaiah 54:17
" I [ God ] will send my terror ahead of you [ Barack Obama] and throw into confusion every nation you [ Barack Obama] encounter. I [ God ] will make all your [ Barack Obama] enemies turn their backs and run." - Exodus 23:27
They will fight against you [ Barack Obama] but will not overcome you, for I [God ] am with you [ Barack Obama] and will rescue you," declares the LORD. - Jeremiah 1:19
The Lord will rescue me [ Barack Obama] from every evil attack and will bring me [ Barack Obama] safely to his heavenly kingdom. - 2 Timothy 4:18
11 For he will command his angels concerning you [ Barack Obama] to guard you [ Barack Obama ] in all your ways; 12 they will lift you [ Barack Obama ] up in their hands, so that you [ Barack Obama ] will not strike your [his] foot against a stone. 13 You [ Barack Obama ] will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you [ Barack Obama ] will trample the great lion and the serpent. - Psalm 91:11-13
I have given you [ Barack Obama ] authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you [ Barack Obama ]. - Luke 10:19
It's time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It's time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time to elect Barack Obama for president !
Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !
Amen.
October 24, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink