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McCain Campaign: There's Got To Be Something Wrong With Obama's Hugely Successful Fundraising

On a conference call with reporters just now, the McCain campaign rolled out its grand new push-back against Obama's smashing $150 million September in fundraising: There's something fishy going on here.

The root of their argument is that about $300 million of Obama's total fundraising to date has come from donors whose amounts were lower than the $200 threshold at which the campaign would legally be required to itemize and disclose the donors' identities -- and there are so many of them that the Obama camp has said it would be unfeasible to itemize them all voluntarily.

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis rolled out a new term for these donations: "Secret Donations."

"And I only say secret because I have no doubt that there are sort of -- the vast majority of those are probably legitimate," Davis explained. "But they're being kept secret by the Obama campaign, for no good reason."

Davis later made a direction accusation that Obama "gets away with raising illegitimate money and spending it," and questioned the campaign's honesty when they say they've been returning bad donations that have been flagged.

Late Update: Here's the audio of the call:


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It's clearly bribery.  All that money is coming from those of us earning under $250k/yr who are counting on that Obama tax cut.  It's just paying it forward.

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According to Davis, 49.9% of the us are illegitimate because we did not donate more than $200. If you donated less than $200, you are anti-American Muslim terrorist. Are you one of them? I am.

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Nope.  More than $200.  Guess that makes me an unapologetic anarchist.

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To be counted as an American, it has to be one time donation of more than $200, not multiple times, small donations totaling $200 or more.

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Would that be considered as "structuring" (ala Bank Secrecy Act) your contributions to stay under the $200 cutoff? Need to fill out a SAR?

Davis is actually right. There is something fishy and unusual going on here. It's called millions of ordinary citizens like me making a small down payment (whatever we can afford) on the restoration of America.

Makes me feel like sending another small donation. Davis is pissing me off, so I might just go do it again right now!

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Someone is jealous...

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If they would only have let Rick just hold the $200 million for a few minutes like he wanted to Obama could have avoided all this ugliness.

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OT:

This was fucking hilarious from Thursday's SNL

"And, John McCain: I like how you keep saying you wish there had been more town hall debates, even though you were not good at your town hall debate. You were lurching at people and walking around like you should have been wearing a hospital gown. "

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Ten town halls...  Does that make a town dekahall?  With Boston Charlie, maybe?

Actually, the real McSlime whine (when only Cindy is listening) is...

Waaannh!  If only Karl Rove had let me run with Joe LieberSchmuck!  Then I wouldn't have had to accidentally burn down this whole social-con, neo-con house!

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His argument is dumb. Obama is raising more more money than us. He most tell us how he is doing it so we can copy him. What is his secret.

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Forget the specific tactic of dubbing internet contributions as "secret donations". This is part of a larger propaganda strategy of painting Obama as untruthful, untrustworthy, and sneaky. Yes I know, pot, kettle, but there you have it. It kind of oozes right up to their innuendos of him being un-American and a crypto-Muslim. Basically putting it in people's minds that he's The Manchurian Candidate.

And it's this larger strategy which needs to be demolished. I'm not exactly sure HOW, but as the numbers begin to inch down for Obama, I think it's possible that this is actually a somewhat effective strategy.


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His argument is dumb. Obama is raising more more money than us. He most tell us how he is doing it so we can copy him. What is his secret.

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The more they are pushing this line, the more offended I am, as I take it as an insult for ordinary people. And I know I'm not alone feeling this way.

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Influence peddling! He's going to have more than 3 million special interest persons to cater to!

And for the record, I'm one of those "secret" contributors. I'm about broke this year, but I've managed some small donations here and there. My partner's in for a bit more, in the range of a few hundred dollars, I suspect. He's probably still under the radar, too. Neither of us have ever contributed to a presidential candidate before.

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FWIW I don't care who knows about my donations. 1200 bucks total: $50, $100, $150 at a time, whatever I can afford that week.

Suck it Rick!

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Um, I smell the stench of sour grapes.

The real question, of course, is whether the press will mindlessly repeat these allegations?


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That's what I'm here for...

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LOL. Honesty is refreshing, but in this case........

Actually, I'm sure that the campaign has a database of all donations and donors. Probably wouldn't take more than a couple query keystrokes to pop out a spreadsheet. Save as a pdf and you're done.

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Oh sure - it's all in an electronic shopping cart. Beyond the McCain people's technology, I am sure!

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In exchange for Obama releasing his secret fundraising plan, McCain should release the secret plans for catching Bin Laden and balancing the budget he's supposedly kept in a vault for eight years.

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McBush's plan to "get" OBL:

1. Wait until OBL dies of old age.
2. Claim credit for keeping such a tight lid on him all these years.

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So, basically the same strategy as they've all had for Fidel Castro.

Should work out about as effectively.

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Yeah, no kidding, do you really want to talk about keeping secrets in light of the NYT article today? By these same standards, there has to be SOMETHING McCain is hiding in those medical records...

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Come on, Mr Davis, is this the best you can do? Really, you had better find a more effective line than that or else you might as well return to your day job. You are playing in the big leagues now; these minor league pitches you are trying to throw are not going to win the game for you.

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I forget now who was making the argument that McCain needs to be careful what he wishes for. If you want to start a "full disclosure" pissing contest, McCain loses on points. He's got _lots_ more to hide than Obama. I think it might have been Bill Mahr that brought it up on Real Time...

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His argument is dumb. Obama is raising more more money than us. He most tell us how he is doing it so we can copy him. What is his secret.

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McSlime is behaving as the young people describe " Hater"...lol

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Come on, Mr Davis, is this the best you can do? Really, you had better find a more effective line than that or else you might as well return to your day job. You are playing in the big leagues now; these minor league pitches you are trying to throw are not going to win the game for you.

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Sorry about the duplicate. The first time I hit "submit" I was told that there were not enough nodes to accommodate my post, so I backed up and hit submit again. I am not sure what these nodes are, but it is clear that there are not enough of them, as I am regularly told that they cannot handle my posts.

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Ignore the nodes. They flummoxed me, too. (I think the NSA can't keep up with us.) The comment makes it to the board in spite of the no go look of no nodes, etc.

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I wish they'd let me explain this to them cause I could explain it. I know somewhat how this is working since they divided up one of my donations in order to bring in 6 new matching donors at amounts of less than $100 - I got emails from 6 actual people/couples who had sent in $25 to $50 to match my 150.

If McCain really cared, I'd be happy to explain what I know about it.

Of course he's going to attack this money - what else can he do?

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I got 3 emails from a $50 matching donation. I think it was $30, $20, $10.

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When Phil Gramm called us a Nation of Whiners (tm) I think he was speaking specifically about the McCain campaign.

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Word.

McLame has spent the entire time since the conventions whining nonstop about Obama.

He whines about every single aspect of Obama and his campaign. When are you going to start whining about how much better looking Obama is, McLame?

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So allow me to get this straight. Even though we don't know who donated what as far as half of Obama's contributions go, we have reason to suspect there may be some funny activity. Why? Well, because there's bound to be something funny going on, right?

Why are we supposed to care who donates something that is so small that it's not required to be disclosed? Who the hell is going to curry favor with a small donation? Is Obama actively courting the donations of unsavory elements of society?

I have a compromise for Davis. If McCain is willing to reveal all of the people that donated to his campaign before he accepted public financing, Obama should be willing to do the same. It might take some time, but McCain himself could take up the matter. Something tells me that he'll have more time on his hands after November 4.

I do have one serious question: is the $200 threshold for total donations, or for individual donations that have gone over that limit? I've made many donations to Obama, but I believe they have all been less than $75. In total, they'd be a few hundred dollars, but I have yet to see my name pop up on any public information sites.

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I've wondered that, too, but I would guess that the $200 has to be for total donations....otherwise, it would enable someone to exceed the $2300 maximum by contributing a lot of smaller donations.

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When you donate, if I remember right, I think the site says they must make "their best efforts" to report all donors who contribute "in excess of $200 in a calendar year."

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Hey Davis, if it helps solve the mystery at all, I confess to sending another $25 last month.

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This is beyond insulting to everyone who has contributed to Obama's campaign.

Boy I'm sick of these assholes.

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I've said this many, many times, but I think it's worth repeating: these do not look like the moves of a confident campaign. They still think they have a shot, and perhaps they do, but if they were confident of victory, they wouldn't be acting like this.

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If everybody who has contributed to Obama would send an email to the McCain campaign confirming that they made a donation, I wonder how long it would take to blowout their mailbox.

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The McCain camp just wants full disclosure so they can make a list of all the criminals, child molesters, etc. That support Obama, and put it in an Ad.

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You're joking, but I swear to God that at this point, I wouldn't put something crazy like that past those guys. We'll all end up on some sort of "non-American" socialists list.

Keep my name out of your mouth, John McCain.

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Shoot, Ol' Johnny Boy can use my name whenever he wants. T'would be a badge of honor...

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So Mr Freddie Mac lobbyist has something to say about illegitimate money? Wasn't the McCain campaign hiding him a mere couple of weeks ago?

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It goes towards their message of Obama is shady, he's "not who you think he is", he's cheating first with ACORN, and now with his donation numbers.

Obama seems to be crawling across the finish line again, or simply trying to run the clock out.

Folks say they don;t like negative attacks/messages, but it's also proven that they work.

When is the last time Obama personally controlled the message? Was the terse letter to Mulkasey all the "pushback" he planned over ACORN?

Why isn't he throwing bombs of his own? where if the offense?

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O Jonze - don't.

McLame isn't controlling any messages -the news is dominated by Colin Powell's endorsement.

It's ok, Jonze.

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If I don't worry I'll explode. It's like a safety release valve.

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LOL! I actually can fully relate :)

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LOL! It's allright. Take a deep breath, make your self a cocktail, check pollster and fivethirtyeight.

Repeat if necessary.

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Dude, we love you and you're on our side, but sometimes I swear you should use Eyore for your avatar.

A few thoughts about punditry from a Joe Klein blog last week that many Democrats might do well to ponder.

Pundits tend to be a lagging indicator. This is particularly true at the end of a political pendulum swing. We've been conditioned by thirty years of certain arguments working--and John McCain made most of them last night against Barack Obama: you're going to raise our taxes, you're going to spend more money, you want to negotiate with bad guys, you're associated somehow--the associations have gotten more tenuous over time--with countercultural and unAmerican activities.

Again, these arguments have "worked" for a long time. The Democrats who got themselves elected President during most of my career were those most successful at playing defense: No, no, I'm not going to do any of those things! And so the first reaction of more than a few talking heads last night was that McCain had done better, maybe even won, because he had made those arguments more successfully than he had in the first two debates. I disagreed, even before the focus groups and snap polls rendered their verdict: I thought McCain was near-incomprehensible when talking about policy, locked in the coffin of conservative thinking and punditry. He spoke in Reagan-era shorthand. He thought that merely invoking the magic words "spread the wealth" and "class warfare" he could neutralize Obama.

But those words and phrases seem anachronistic, almost vestigial now. Indeed, they have become every bit as toxic as Democratic social activist proposals--government-regulated and subsidized health care, for example--used to be. We have had 30 years of class warfare, in which the wealthy strip-mined the middle class. The wealth has been "spread" upward. The era when Democrats could only elect Presidents from the south, who essentially promised to take the harsh edge off of conservatism, is over. Barack Obama is the most unapologetic advocate of government activism since Lyndon Johnson--which is not to say that his brand of activism will be the same as Johnson's (we've learned a lot about the perils of bureacracy and the value of market incentives since then)--and he seems to be giving the public exactly what it wants this year. Who knows? Maybe even the word "liberal" can now be uttered in mixed company again.

Journalism is, naturally, about the past. We are much better at reporting things that have happened than in predicting the future. We never seem so foolish or obnoxious, especially on TV, as when we accede to the constant demand for crystal-balling. But the obvious danger inherent in journalism is that we tend to get trapped in the assumptions of the past. Too often this year, my colleagues--especially those who are older than me, but also my fellow baby boomers--have seemed a bit moldy in our questioning of politicians: What are you going to do about budget deficits? What are you going to do about entitlement programs?

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I'm a secret donor, I don't run around with terrorists, though I did live in Chicago for a year, and visit the Northwestern campus whose president was on the board with Bill Ayers. I guess that could mean I am a secret donor with ties to an unrepentant terrorist.

Mr. Davis, does that mean i'm fucked if McCain becomes president? Because if so, I could sell some shit on eBay and donate more to Obama...

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Davis and McCain know that Obama's donations are completely reasonable given his number of donors - it's simply sowing the seeds of suspicion. It's the message they've settled on for the final weeks.

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Maybe Warren Buffett spent his September sitting at a pc donating $25 at a time until he reached $150 million.

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This dovetails nicely with Ben Smith's heads up on the McCain campaign's solicitation of campaign donations from Russians...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCain_camp_hits_up_Russian_ambassador.html?showall

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Jesus fucking Mary and Joseph! If this is true it has to be a major news story.

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I gave $50 bucks a month for 6 months. Does that mean since I'm a big-time influence buyer that I get to stay in the Lincoln Bedroom?

I'm going to a conference in DC in the spring and that's cheaper than the Holiday Inn so I'm glad I helped buy this election!

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Yep. Obama will be calling you soon to see how you want to strong arm him into some legislation for Eds.

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I guess I'll have to donate yet another $100 this week. Will send a copy of the receipt to McCain, so he can send somebody over to slash my tires. I need new tires.

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Russia's permanent mission to the UN has received a letter from U.S. Republican presidential candidate John McCain asking for financial support of his election campaign, the mission said in a statement on Monday.

"We have received a letter from Senator John McCain with a request for a financial donation to his presidential election campaign. In this respect we have to reiterate that neither Russia's permanent mission to the UN nor the Russian government or its officials finance political activities in foreign countries," the statement said.

According to Ruslan Bakhtin, press secretary of the Russian mission, the letter dated September 29 and signed by McCain, was addressed to Vitaly Churkin, Russia's envoy to the UN, and arrived on October 16.

The ambassador's title was not included in the letter, and was not clear why the letter had taken over two weeks to arrive.

Enclosed was a request for a donation of up to $5,000 to McCain's election campaign to be returned with a check or permission to withdraw the money from the donor's credit card until October 24.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20081020/117842524.html

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Ah, the green-eyed monster. Tsk.

At least John McCain, for the first time in his life, will know what it's like to be broke.

His misery will be over on November 5th, when he can return to one of his seven homes.

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Terrific piece by David M. Green @counterpunch on why the Repugs are toast.


If you sat down with a pen and paper and tried to invent a more thorough litany of failure on the rightโ€™s watch, youโ€™d be hard pressed to top what theyโ€™ve actually done. I suppose inadvertently nuking all the major cities of the United States would be worse, but I canโ€™t think of much else. The simple truth is that the regressive movement took a great and proud and prosperous country and ran it into the ditch at 130 miles an hour. Worse yet, for them โ€“ and unlike the bad old years of Willie Horton, or invading Panama, or Clintonโ€™s faux scandals โ€“ the public isnโ€™t fooled anymore. They had already caught on to the game, in large part, a few years back, which is why Bush has been moribund in the absolute cellar of job approval ratings for almost the entirety of his second term. Things were already tough for the black hats, but then this economic crisis came and walloped people severely, right in the wallet. One thing about Americans โ€“ theyโ€™re seriously selfish. You take away their reputation and their liberties and their democracy and they might โ€“ might! โ€“ vote against you. You take away their money, theyโ€™ll rip your fucking lungs out, Bro.

And if John McCain seems particularly short on breath of late, thatโ€™s why. Thereโ€™s nothing quite like the total absence of breathing organs to put a crimp in your respiratory function.

Read the whole article:

http://www.counterpunch.com/green10202008.html

It's a beaut...

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I went to a Obama fundraising party a few weekends ago...about 25 of us ponied in $20 here, $40 or $50 there (welcome to the reality-based economy). In the end we contributed around $850 to the campaign. Pretty good, almost a grand.

THAT is what's going on. People can't afford a lot, but are giving what they can - because they can't afford another four years of looking at McCain, the horse's ass.

This is another one of those totally transparent "Let's make you fearful of what you claim not to understand" concepts that the GOP is rolling out so effortlessly.

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Yup. I'm a grad student. Not much money. But I've given what I can. There's a lot of people doing the same.

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630,000 NEW donors in September.

That's no secret, Ricky, that's called gettin' your ass handed to you.

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Watching him live, Obama just said McCain is, "out of ideas, out of touch, and running out of time."

Hell yeah. Me likey.

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Rick Davis, victim of sour grapes.

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Rick Davis, victim of sour grapes.

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Rick Davis, victim of sour grapes.

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And every time I see him, I can't help being amazed at how evil-looking he is.

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Hey Rick,
You want my name and address?? No problem - you just convinced me to donate another $100 to Obama and go over the $200 limit.

Do you know why Obama raised $150 million in Sept? Because you're running such a sleazy campaign! The McCain crap is pushing people to Obama - Keep up the good work Rick!!

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Another shot from the McCain popgun. Seriously, is that all they've got? This gets more pathetic by the day.

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According to Davis, 49.9% of the us are illegitimate because we did not donate more than $200. If you donated less than $200, you are anti-American Muslim terrorist. Are you one of them? I am because I don't have a job and won't be employed for another 6 months.

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You just don't get it. You, your candidate, Ms Palin, Ms Bachman and all those up and down the line. Every time one of you opens their mouth I, and many like me, open my wallet. Keep talking.

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If the katakana don't getcha, the kanji will!

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Yea, there's something up alright. It's McLames TIME!

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Davis sounds surprised that people want to BYPASS THE LOBBYISTS, and go directly to our candidates/representatives.

Now, why would we want to do that?

pathetic

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For Rick Davis, only lobbyists are legitimate contributors to political campaigns. He can't comprehend how regular voters across the country could raise so much money.

Thus, Davis arrives at the following conclusion; if it weren't for voters, McCain would be winning.

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I can't decide if this is more of their "let's throw all the mud we can think of at Obama in the hope that some of it will stick" effort, or if it's just another sign of how totally out of touch they are with what voters are thinking.

I'm thinking it's the latter, though. They seem incapable of realizing that there are hundreds of thousands of us who are so galvanized by the possibility of restoring decency and competence to the presidency that we scrape up $10 or $25 or $50 for the Obama campaign whenever we can, as often as we can, and that's how this "mysterious" fundraising success has occurred. I know I've literally lost track of how many times I've donated, despite having had gigantic expenses the past few months, and I know I'm far from alone. The problem for the McSame campaign is that no one is excited enough to do the same, no matter how many times he and Bible Spice invoke Bill Ayers or socialism or whatever the smear tactic of the week may be.

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Mr. Davis, as an American citizen I willingly and legally donated $50 to the Obama campaign. You can take your "secret donations" horseshit and go fuck yourself with it.

Sincerely,

Don Hammond
Ann Arbor, MI

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Just donated another $100, while keeping both middle fingers extended in the general direction of McPalin. Wasn't easy to type without middle fingers.

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I guess, according to rat face, a donation is only valid if it's buying $12,500 a plate dinner seats.

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As a performer struggling in a tough economy, I've only been able to donate in $10 increments. I think I've donated 5 or 6 times so far. It's not much, but considering my income combined with the fact that we've recently just relocated to Nevada (new market where I'm unknown), it's about all I can do right now.

One good thing, we moved from Wisconsin to Nevada. Since Wisconsin is pretty safely "blue", I feel we (my fiancee and I) will make a bigger difference here in Nevada, where the race is much tighter.

We are early voting this week. Yayyy!

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I had hoped we saw the last of Rick Davis with the lobbying story about Freddie/Fanny came out. But like everyone else in the McCain Campaign, he has no shame at all. Stunning that he even shows his face, let alone attacks the Obama Campaign.

John

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Have we already forgotten about McCains own fundraising irregularities (which, from what I gather, have never been resolved)? Personally, I am inspired by a candidate that has managed to get enough of us to toss in 5$ or 20$ to run a huge and successful campaign. McCain's desire to limit donations to those who can afford to donate more is unsurprising.

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Not only am I a secret contributor with apparently questionable legitimacy, I learned this weekend that I'm not even a real Virginian! Much more of this from McCain and I'll have to enter treatment for a major identity crisis!

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I've donated $125 so far, all in $25 increments over the last three months or so.

Even if the Obama campaign released all the names, the McCain campaign would claim they were all fake people made up by ACORN.

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I wonder whether it's just another case of projection (I've thought the same of the voting fraud allegations).

Wonder what the McCain books look like these days? Think he finds it easy to get any big loans?

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Obama is the first candidate I've sent $ to since Jerry Brown. THAT is how he's raising so much money - dragging $10-25 out of us small potatoes contributors. Oh, I did see on another site that for EVERY Obama yard sign that gets destroyed we all have to go buy new ones - that's gotta contribute a lot of $!

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Some insight into why that $150M in September is driving the McCain Campaign insane:


DailyKos: McCain running out of money, Part 2!!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/20/102411/64/426/636226

Numbers look bleak for McCain. And with Mitchy in trouble in KY, some of that RNC money might be needed elsewhere.

Nate at the 538 keeps pointing out that McCain needs to turn around the National Polling Numbers since he's got such bad numbers in so many states. Obama has too many firewalls at the moment for them *all* to fall even if the numbers in a few states turn around. It needs to be a "wave" heading in the direction of McCain.

How does one turn things around nationally? Other than a Big Obama Screw Up or an October Surprise, it takes massive amounts of National Spending.

Over there you have Obama and his $150M+.

Here you have McCain and the RNC with their $30 or so.

How does one turn the national tide with that gap?

Obama can double it Nationally, and then on top of it zero in on local ads for local issues - SS in Florida, Jobs in OH & MI & PA, Ethanol in Iowa, etc.

That's why the McCain campaign is bitching. They're lock into a low number. They've got to call out the 527's, but the clock is even ticking on that.

John

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What an insufferable bore (and boor) Davis is. And unimaginative to boot. Many of my friends are contributing to a political campaign (Obama's) for the the first time ever, many of my friends who were Hillary supporters are now contributing feverishly to Obama's campaign, and my husband and I have contributed 10 times the amount we gave to Kerry (sorry, Sen. Kerry--it wasn't much). Dear Mr. Davis, that kind of giving and enthusiasm adds up, fast. Investigate away. You will only be embarassed by the lack of enthusiasm for the Republican candidate.

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Every time Rick Davis opens his mouth, I send in another 'secret' donation.

Keep it up, Rick, and I'm gonna need that tax refund President Obama's gonna give me.

You won't qualify, unfortunately, as you're rich as well as being an insufferable prick.

Karma.

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Right. The guy trouncing you in the polls must not have an enormous groundswell of support. Whatever.

The truth hurts, Rick. Poor Mac can't find enough money here, so he begs Russia for dough. Now THAT'S fishy.

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Another good item off Kos, this one from Markos:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/20/124441/86/287/636373

John

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You know... we need to start a Rick Davis Is A Prick thread since there's an endless supply of his slime:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/rick-davis-were-rethinkin_n_136173.html


John

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John McCain is against private citizens making their own choices to fund a political campaign.

He wants *socialized* campaign finance. He wants to spend your tax dollars to make robo-calls calling the other candidate a socialist.

Hooray!

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I sure will give another $ 250 this month...Probabably $ 100 in the next few days and another $150 at the end of month...

These bad seeds need to go...Enough!!!

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I think some of y'all are missing the point of this blather. I don't think anyone's told McCain yet, but it seems to me that McCain's campaign has stopped being about trying to win the race. Instead, its increasingly turned into a vehicle for the forumlation of a paranoid conspiracy narrative whose purpose is to delegitimize this election in the eyes of the Base and give the wingnuts a comprehensive suite of grievances to nurture for the next two to four years.

The party leaders are terrified of losing the angry, undereducated poor white segment of their base if those people come to see what the Republican ideology for the empty sham it has become. They cannot be allowed to see that The Party was wrong, that its ideas have led the nation to economic ruin and international disaster and that all of the angry militarism and fear mongering is really just an excuse to loot them blind and put it into the pockets of the top 1%. To prevent that, and keep that segment of the base from defecting to the Democrats, they have to be given a reason other than the obvious one for the tsunami that's about to come crashing down on them.

Big Brother can never be seen to be wrong. If he predicted an increase in the chocolate ration the next month and, in fact, the ration had to be reduced then you announce the reduction by launching joyous celebrations of spontaneous thanksgiving to BB for raising the chocolate ration from thirty to twenty grams a week.

Similarly, the Republicans didn't lose this election because their rigid adherance to an ideology produced successive disasters and were, therefore, punished by a wrathful electorate. Instead, they lost becaus ACORN rigged the vote, and tSocialist Obama promised welfare to the lazy corrupt negros and paid his campaign with illegal campaign contributions from Muslim terrorists.

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OK. Stipulated.

But what can be done about that?

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Oh, I'm not saying its going to work. The Republicans are holding on to their line to these guys thinking its attached to a life preserver when, in fact, this part of their base is boat anchor dragging them down into the abyss. They're never going to start winning until they let go of this segment, rethink the viability of insanity as a political strategy and then let these guys come back to them, or not, as they please.

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today on fox one of the woman made a comment about how will it be looked in to with rules being broke then tried to back track saying that its not up to her if they have broke rules

how have they broke any rules oh yea that must be the one where if you raise more then mccain its not fair rule

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Once again, the republicans just don't get it. They can't imagine an entire electorate terrified of another 4 years of mismanagement and disaster. We'll pay anything to prevent that.

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I maintain that Obama has redefined public financing of campaigns. Those of us in the great unwashed masses - i.e. the public - saw someone we liked, so we financed him.

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