McCain-Palin Supporter Shouts: "Obama Bin Laden"
The creativity of some of McCain-Palin's supporters continues to dazzle and amaze. Here's the latest -- at a rally yesterday morning, a McCain-Palin supporter shouted out: "Obama Bin Laden."
You can hear it at the 12-second mark, just before Palin launches into her now-familiar (and false) claim that McCain is too modest to discuss his POW service:
It's impossible to know whether Palin heard it. The above vid makes it seem like the person who shouted it was far away from her, but the video posted by this DailyKos diarist suggests otherwise.
Earlier today we heard a McCain-Palin supporter shout "kill him" at a Palin rally. TPM Reader MLC asks a very good question about all this: "Where is the Secret Service in all of this? What obligation does the Palin detail have if they actually hear something at one of her rallies?"
JOBS,
October 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
BABY,
October 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
JOBS
October 14, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Righteous!
October 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR MCCAIN!!!
October 14, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indubitably...
October 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I emailed them at the campaign site and told them I'm outraged and I want them to stop this before something happens and if it does, they will end up eternally blamed.
October 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
So did I. Think we're going to get a response?
;-)
October 14, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hate mails, perhaps...
(Seriously)
October 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Greg, much as I hate to complain, is this 45 second hang time before a comment posts going to be a permanent feature?
October 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously. If it's a choice between the 45 second hangtime and a preview function, I'd be happy to lose the preview function.
October 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
agreed. There's only so much time at work to waste you know!
October 14, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly!
October 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
No joke. This site's going to be a nightmare tomorrow night during the debate if this keeps up.
October 14, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what I keep thinking -
October 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I listened to it a few times, but I don't hear "kill him" in the audio. Does someone have a cleaner recording?
October 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that was a different one (I don't have sound on this 'puter)
October 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
The 'kill him' was yelled before Palin spoke.
October 14, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess if you get enough pinheads together and get them all riled up this is what you get . . .
October 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
REALLY hoping The Daily Show lucked into some full-audio footage of this lunacy...
October 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just one problem -- none of this is funny.
October 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-signed. Sad fact remains, TDS is one of the better ways of getting sidelined news items out to the less-political.
October 14, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Turns out the Daily Show did do the Krazy Krowds segment as its lead story after all. Good for them.
And did you see how they juxtaposed McShame's "new" economic speech with his convention address? Yet another stroke of brilliance that makes you realize just how pathetically lame the mainstream media is.
October 15, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey all,
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If anybody knows how to get in touch with any of the writers, let me know?
October 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Click SEND COMMENTS AND NEWS TIPS above.
October 14, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are we maybe giving this more attention than it deserves?
These freeps are hollering this stuff because it riles up the liberals. That is their intent.
October 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
It may rile up liberals, but it also scares the hell out of moderates/independents.
October 14, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least they aren't performing book burnings yet. Yet.
October 14, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
What? In the context, this one doesn't even mean anything--that guy might as well have yelled "Ted Kaczynski."
My theory is that McCain supporters have figured out they can yell things and get onto YouTube or, if they're provocative enough, the MSM.
October 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think "did McCain/Palin hear it?" was a valid question to ask the first time or two it happened. But now we've got these things turning up at every rally. Would it be that hard to have, you know, an aide standing in the audience or something, where the person who took that video was, and have them do something when these outbursts occur? Or alert McCain/Palin the audience needs to be responded to? Or... do anything at all? We know Palin at least doesn't have a problem responding to the audience if they start yelling anti-war comments.
These crowd calls are happening because the McCain campaign wants them to happen.
October 14, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would be interesting if it was the same person at every rally....
October 14, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
As for the secret service, why do people think this is the SINGLE government agency not to be gutted by Bush/Cheney and restaffed at critical points with kiss-ass bootlickers?
My guess would be for people so close to Bush/Cheney, the secret service was one of the very first organizations to be reshuffled.
October 14, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Because their lives depended on them and they know that other people's lives depend on them.
I'm sorry but until someone shows me proof that somehow the Secret Service has become incompetent or partisan, I'm not going to believe it because my reason tells me that it's not very damn likely.
October 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Especially since if something happened, the USSS would have some explaining to do. I agree, I can't believe that politics would hold sway there.
October 14, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Secret Service has a whole threat assessment protocol and I am sure they are treating these ad hoc threats just the way they usually do, but they don't tend to advertise how they do things.
I took a class in forensic psychiatry and the professor arranged for a secret service officer to talk with us. He was part of the presidential threatener detail, which is different from the guys who provide physical protection (though I am sure that they talk to each other).
Basically, threats are prioritized by seriousness, credibility, opportunity, prior bad acts, and a host of other factors.
I like to think that for most people, even being talked to by a Secret Service agent about your propensity for carrying out a threat would be sufficient not to make an overt threat again.
It's all pretty scary, though, and I really wish McCain and his team would stop it.
October 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
So as corrupt and venal as Bush/Cheney has proven themselves to be, you seem to believe that the secret service is able and willing to protect Obama because... Bush/Cheney trust their lives to them?
I don't get it. Whats the connection there? If the SS has been corrupted/biased but still adequately protects Bush/Cheney, why does that mean the same quality of protection would extend to B/C's enemies -- like Obama? They could easily put the 2nd stringers in there or... simply not pursue clear threats made in public venues against Obama. Recall any of them recently? Recall the guys picked up in Denver with guns, maps and a witness who said they were headed out to kill Obama but seemed to slip thru the SS's fingers? The effect of not pursuing threats is to embolden and encourage those nutcases out there. Just like what is going on in the McCain/Palin rallys.
Strange that folks think the SS is somehow above it all.
October 14, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Bush and Cheney were to tamper with the Secret Service and install cronies, they might be jeopardizing their own safety. One can say many things about Bush and Cheney, but reckless with their own safety they are not.
So it would be in sheer self-interests to keep the Secret Service functioning well.
October 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
My understanding is that the gentlemen picked up in Denver did not "slip" through the USSS hands...it was the US prosecutor who declined to prosecute.
I don't know for sure, but my guess is that agents of the USSS are considered civil servants...as such, I don't think the whole department could easily be staffed or replaced with "kiss-ass bootlickers". In order for your conspiracy to be valid, it would mean the entire department would be in on it. Don't you think something would have leaked out by now? Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back up your accusations? Do you truly believe that not a single person in the entire USSS has a conscious?
October 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dammit....must...use...."preview".....
That should be "conscience"
October 14, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey SchrodingersCat, thanks for misquoting and misinterpreting almost everything I said. For one, what part of 'restaffed at critical points' did you not understand to come up with your 'Do you truly believe that not a single person in the entire USSS has a conscious?' comment?
This is obviously beating a dead horse here. Glad to see some people believe in the tooth fairy still. Civil servants... yeah, that really makes 'em immune to corruption.
October 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Confound Them All, thanks for supplying all of that evidence that backs up your theory.
October 14, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what's the point of logging in if you have to retype your name etc everytime you leave a comment?
October 14, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
There seem to be quite a few kinks that need to be worked out- I hope the problems are temporary.
October 14, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Everything seems to be constipated, at this point. Maybe it's a test.
October 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can anyone tell me why, exactly, McCain is pursuing this? All the polls indicate that the more hateful things get spouted at rallies, the fewer people are supporting McCain. Even Fox News polls say that William Ayers doesn't matter to 70% of their viewers, for Chrissakes. Can someone explain to me how this isn't just McCain flailing and is actually a strategy?
October 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
why aren't these fuckers thrown out?
October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what they should do - escort those people out of the rally tout suite.
October 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's like throwing a beer bottle onto a hockey rink. You did it. Now you have 2 burly guys at either arm showing you the way..
October 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Remember they threw out protesters from the RNC immediately during the McScum speech? Clearly, they are highly selective about what sorta nuts they throw out.
October 14, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only thing I can think along conspiratorial lines might be happening is that the Secret Service knows something we don't know - like these people are hired by the campaign.
I still think someone needs to step up if that's the case -
October 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tell McCain to End the Politics of Hate
http://therealmccain.com/mob/
Use this link to sign the open letter to John McCain and Sarah Palin
October 14, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Secret Service doesn't change with administrations - those guys like their jobs and they hold them from president to president.
October 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shouts of "KILL HIM" to comparing Barack Obama to perhaps the biggest terrorist of our lifetime (Bin Laden), this is unbelievable. I can't ever remember this happening before in a U.S. election, where one side actually wanted to "KILL" the other side. Sure we might have different views on ideology, but aren't we all Americans??? It's just a telling reminder that even though we've made great strides in racial relations in this country, we still have a long way to go.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS VIDEO. IT TELLS A LOT ABOUT US AS A NATION:
http://okwassup.blogspot.com/2008/10/black-white-of-politics.html
October 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
LA Times Pol(LV) - Obama 50 McCain 41
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll15-2008oct15,0,2945650.story
October 14, 2008 5:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is it just me?
I like seeing these swine being shown as swine. Let them spout off their bullshit. It just shows moderates what kind of people love McCain and Palin.
October 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it isn't just you - I like seeing these people exposed for what they are, too - really it should scare most people.
It's just that I want the media clear that this is not acceptable campaign behavior - because it's not.
October 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Greg:
Is this a new policy of TPM to discourage bloggers from commenting? The "update" design is horrible.
Please fix.
October 14, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
What!?! You don't like waiting for five minutes while the page reloads?
You young whippersnappers! No patience!
October 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
If there is a ray of sunshine in the McCain Palin ticket it's the fact that Sarahs political career, if it "can be called that", is finished.
She has been brought out into the light, and the light liketh not.
October 14, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word straight up!
October 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain has ratcheted up the expectations about the debate to an absurd level with those people.
They are expecting something very WWF. I don't know if McCain can give it to them, even with Schieffer's assistance.
I'll be here. I'm way to timid to look at the actual debate.
October 14, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
For GOP, a grim November looms
Signs point to a second straight blowout at the polls
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27183512/
October 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I said earlier today - this is the widest margin I've seen in 3 elections.
October 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is really no polite way to say this, so I'll just spit it out:
This is what 'those people' do when they attend WWF extravaganzas, NFL football and NBA basketball games, and so on. As a former police officer and one who spent a lot of time working with the US Secret Service on protective detail assignments, I can tell you that it's not usually the 'noisy ones' you worry too much about.
On the other hand, the long honored and effective way to control an unruly crowd is to remove the generally self-appointed head of the mob, decapitating the leadership—so to speak—and shocking its participants back into reality.
In this case, a delay in allowing the 'stars' to appear or even the cancellation of the event due to such hooliganism, is likely the better approach. As justice is only effective if it is swift and sure, so is the attempt to control the 'fan base' of political figures. An event delay or cancellation, coupled with a clear announcement of the reason and an easy, unobstructed exit path, would go a long way to diminishing the bad behavior at future events.
October 14, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was just wondering about that a little while ago. It dawned on me that at least when they shout out you know who and where they are.
October 14, 2008 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please tell me the MSM calls them out already...
October 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
They have been - and it started with conservative writers and then more joined in.
It's certainly had very little effect on this campaign - at least the Palin part of this campaign. Goddam I'll be glad to see the last of Klondike Barbie. She's more of Klaus Barbie, as it turns out.
October 14, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Tena. As for its impact on the election dynamics, I'm not too exceedingly concerned actually. But I'm VERY concerned what this incited hatred might lead to. I fear the worst, honestly -- and even if we avoid the tragedy we worry about, this can do our political dialogue huge damage (that's why I want to see McScum completely destroyed on the election day, to show the fascism they run their campaign on will never be rewarded).
October 14, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to admit that every time I see a picture of Sarah "Kill 'Em" Palin I feel an overwhelming urge to fling a moose pie at her stupid face.
October 14, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can anybody contact the Secret Service to find out if they are looking into this?
October 14, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama is playing a victim card. He is saving the racism card for November.
October 15, 2008 3:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
To see real videos of real women discussing their reactions to Sarah Palin & the misuse of gender issues in this year's presidential race, please take a look at the following blog:
www.speakoutonpalin.blogspot.com
October 15, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink