Lieberman: I Respect Obama
An interesting pattern now seems to be coming from Joe Lieberman: He is now reminding us all how much he respects Barack Obama, even if he's for John McCain this time around.
In a conference call with Connecticut reporters on Friday, Lieberman bristled at the media's coverage of the McCain campaign's negativity. "You guys are going down a road, you have contributed to the demeaning of our politics by this kind of focus," Lieberman said. "I mean, give me a break. Have any of you been out listening to me?"
"When I go out, I say, 'I have a lot of respect for Sen. Obama. He's bright. He's eloquent.' Someday, I might even support him for president," Lieberman told a conference call of Connecticut reporters. "But now in the midst of this series of crises, John McCain is simply so much better prepared that that's who I am proud to support."
Lieberman also said that if McCain doesn't, "I'm going to do everything I can to be bringing people ... together across party lines to support the new president so he can succeed."
This seems like a serious change of pace, to say the least, for Lieberman to be talking about how much he likes Obama and how he could potentially support him for president down the road. Indeed, it invites questions about what might have prompted Lieberman's change of tone.
For context, it's worth looking at some other things Joe has said this campaign season:
• In an interview with the right-wing site NewsMax a little over two weeks ago, Lieberman endorsed GOP attacks against Obama over Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright: "And one of the things you want to know is who have they associated with, because it may help you know who they'll listen to when they get into office."
• In the same interview, he left the door open on switching parties: "Well, I've thought about it. But this term is about over, so i'll take up this question again."
• During his speech at the Republican Convention, Lieberman repeated the smear that Obama "was voting to cut off funding for our troops on the ground."
• While campaigning for McCain back in August, Lieberman said that Obama does not "put the country first."
So the big question here, really, is what happened in the last few weeks that turned Obama from someone who doesn't put the country first, might listen to anti-American characters when he's in office, and wants to cut off resources for American troops, into someone who Lieberman respects and could support for president down the road?















No, Joe. We tuned you out quite a while ago. You're a waste of time.
October 26, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
...and of tax dollars. As a proud but demonized Liberal, and despite my appreciation of government when done right, I vote we cut his funding.
October 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm Jewish and I completely repudiate Joe Lieberman for supporting John McKKKain.
Nevermind Bill Ayers. John McCAIN hired William Timmons as his probably never to get used transition chief. William Timmons worked for Saddam Hussein, a terrorist. Saddam Hussein hired Timmons to get the international community to stop any notion of going to war with Iraq.
Republicans act like such high level hypocrites.
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October 26, 2008 2:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
What has "I'm Jewish" to do with anything? Sounds like the beginning of an AA meeting. Do you start every argument relating to a jew with that?
FYI, I don't belong to an ethnic group and I completely repudiate Joe Lieberman for supporting John McCain.
October 26, 2008 9:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Saddam Hussein wasn't a terrorist, he was a brutal dictator. There is a difference.
It's about time we stopped using the term "terrorist" as a catch-all for everybody we don't like. Now that we actually intend to do something useful about the state of the world, we need to start using clear eyes and meaningful terminology.
November 6, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
A bit of hyperbole in my comment above, obviously, but there is something about Joe L's self-righteous hypocrisy during the presidential campaign that shocks my brainstem.
October 26, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I listened to him when he said he didn't know if Obama was a socialist or not
I listened to him when he held a conference call to say that Obama couldn't be trusted to stand by Israel.
I listened to him when he said that Obama had been endorsed by Hamas.
Yes, Joe. I listened to you and that's why I can't stand you!
October 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very well said.&hbsp; Thanks!
October 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
And 70 per cent of Jews support Obama.
See ya, Liebershithead.
October 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know when Holy Joe is up for reelection, but no matter what party he clings to, I don't think he's going to make it. At least, I hope not.
October 26, 2008 1:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
In 2012.
And there's a lot of time between now and then to find a suitable opponent here in CT.
October 26, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have no dearth of curse words that come to mind when talking about this pitiful excuse for a human being. Can we change the CT laws to institute a recall????
Ugh.
October 26, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. It shouldn't be to hard to find someone. Just look for "Ned Lamont" in the phone book.
Is there any doubt now that if Lamont, Lie-berman, and [generic token Republican] faced off NOW that Lamont would win?
Remember, Joe, you can only use the same lies once.
November 11, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lol. Little Joey is scared.
October 26, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactamundo - Joey's figured out that Barry's actually going to win this thing after all - just like Colon Powell last weekend (yes, I meant to spell it that way).
October 26, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course if you were clever, which you're not, you would have changed his last name to Bowel. See, Colon Bowel. Double hit. The Colon is so obvious. The Bowel is what makes it work.
October 26, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman? Who's Lieberman? And why should anyone care? It isn't as if his vote will matter after November 4 ONE CONNECTICUT WHIT!
October 26, 2008 1:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Screw this worm.
October 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you meant rat, he is trying to jump off a sinking ship.
October 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a pathetic little creep. By the end of this week this puny weasel will be trashing McCain and trying to make even nicer with Obama.
Cold shoulder time.
October 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman has ridden on the coat tails of various senate members ... political party didn't matter ... anything to keep his 'posh' job.
When it comes to loyalty Israel comes first for Holy Joe ...people who live in glass houses shouln't throw stones.
October 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish the reporters could have confronted him with some of his quotes regarding Obama that Eric has mentioned above (and others - I recall a Marxist one somewhere along the line).
Also "eloquent" was/is a GOP code word, so nice try there worm...
October 26, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, "Is Obama a Marxist?" is a "good question" for Libersuck.
October 26, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hadassah must be so ashamed of him.
October 26, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seems like we have this thread every day, but here we go again:
Fuck. You. Joe.
October 26, 2008 1:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to see the Democrats kind of forget about the magic "60." If they have good ideas and legislation, a few repugs. are going to be compelled to vote for the idea and not the party.
I'd also like to see the voters of the nutmeg state recall Lieberman. It'd be a fun project for between election day and inauguration day.
The Democratics really shouldn't allow his, Lieberman's, conduct to go by unpunished.
I know it is very Christian to allow for redemption, but I'm an atheist, and believe that there are some acts that are unforgivable.
Lieberman's transgressions fall into that column for me.
Certainly his self serving remark that he has always been respectful doesn't even indicate a remorse, for his words and actions on behalf of McCain, worthy of a discussion of political redemption.
He really kind of makes me nauseous.
October 26, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
We can't recall a Senator.
October 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Lieberman will be stripped of any Chairmanship (at least right away) because it will look like the Dems are putting party over country. In that if Lieberman was a good fit for his role before, what has changed? That he spoke out against Obama? It's a bad message to send.
Besides if Obama still wants a Cabinet of Rivals, that shows he's not concerned about political differences. Now I'm certainly not saying Lieberman will be offered a Cabinet post, but I don't think he's going to be marginalized and froze out like we are fantasizing about.
October 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're a moron. Every chair has his/her position because of his loyalty to and hierachy in the party. Lieberman has demonstrated that he is not loyal to the party by his treatment of the nominee. He didn't just endorse McCain; he slammed Obama and heralded Palin, a woman he had only met for a few minutes.
A chairmanship is a spoil and he doesn't deserve one.
Harry Reid basically said he's gone. Good riddance!
October 26, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know you are, but what am I?
October 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh, what?! I'm sorry, but when someone's giving an educated opinion, calling them a moron isn't a way to get any-fucking-one to listen to you.
(seems I got madder than Jonze!)
October 26, 2008 9:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, bullshit, Jonze. Stripping him of his chairmanship of a committee in which he essentially has DONE NOTHING (well, except lobby for censorship on Youtube) isn't going to be any message that anyone outside of political junkies and politicians will even notice.
Besides, "It's time for a change" is a perfect reason to strip this McCain ass-kissing confederate of any leadership.
October 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign.
October 26, 2008 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also.
October 26, 2008 8:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama can find someone across the aisle worthy of a cabinet or other high level position. Perhaps someone like Luger or Hagel in the foreign policy arena. Lamerman is not worthy of a warm pot of piss.
This of course assuming Obama wins. Let's not get cocky please. There are significant voter suppression risks out there.
October 26, 2008 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I think that Harry Reid said that Democratic Leadership in the Senate would think dimly of a senator who actively participated in an opposing party's convention and gave a key speech at such a convention.
Reid said this in an interview back in June or July. I took that as an open warning to Lieberman. Lieberman did not seem to worry about Reid's words then.
Apparently he is worried about his words now.
October 26, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain said, complaining about media coverage:
All I have to say is, "How does it feel?"
Remember Kerry?
October 26, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Translation:
Pleeeeeze don't take away my chairmanship.
October 26, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman. The Senator left out in the cold.
October 26, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a former constituent of Lieberman's I've been consistently and increasingly dissapointed in his stances. I think this all stems from an overwhelming concern on his part toward protecting Israel. You can never know what's in someone else's mind but it all seems to track back towards that.
I agree he should be recalled or at least blackballed when the new session starts again.
October 26, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was a kind remark. Unfortunately, he represents the U.S., not Israel. Frankly, if his demeanor stems from your suggested viewpoint, which I agree with, he should have moved there. I personally am sick to death hearing about Israel, and think they have in more recent years done us a lot more harm than good.
October 26, 2008 2:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish we could deport him.
October 26, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think it's even that principled.
I think he's still angry over the derision his 2004 campaign received. I think he's still angry over what happened here in 2006. I think he viewed Obama's chances as highly as Hillary Clinton ("he can't win") did, and latched onto the McCain campaign because he truly thinks of himself as some sort of nonpartisan politican. McCain was a winner.
He's not that principled, frankly. Otherwise, he wouldn't beg for Obama to campaign for him in 2006 and then, less than two years later, attempt to stick the knife in him.
He's an opportunistic weasel. That's all.
October 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's still angry over losing in 2000 - he blamed the Democrats for that and he's been a goddamn turncoat every since I always did think it was strictly personal and petty and vindictive cause I think he is petty and vindictive.
October 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think so, too. Also, he seems enamored of Likud's view and hostile to any land-for-peace proposal.
If you put those two things together, it explains pretty much all of where Joe's coming from.
October 26, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
The sad thing is the policies of the last 8 years have so destabilized the region that in reality Joe has been working against his own position.
Unless of course some wing nuts in the administration are purposely trying to bring about the apocalypse in some sort of end time scenario.
Either way He is a dupe willing or not.
October 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. Nothing wrong with supporting Israel, but all these tools who cloaked their neocon fantasies with claims of support for Israel have actually made it less secure than it was before.
October 26, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
One would hope if the Democrats do get a 60+ majority, Reid calls Lieberman to his office and gives him a a position - sit in your assign seat and answer only when spoken to. Otherwise, be quiet and transparent - out of sight and out of mind should be his golden rule.
October 26, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
he's already slipped his shiv in moose gal:
now it's just about mccain's turn.
sinking ships: meet rat.
October 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Simple. Joe sees the writing on the wall, and is trying to walk back a campaign's worth of talking smack.
I want him marginalized. I want Joe Lieberman - with great ceremony and fanfare - stripped of every Senate advantage given to him by Democrats. Maybe they can reserve time on C-SPAN so they can strip him of his chairmanships and leadership roles, one by one.
And after it's all done, President Obama can go on the record with remarks about how much he 'respects' Joe Lieberman.
October 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think Lieberman will be stripped of any Chairmanship (at least right away) because it will look like the Dems are putting party over country. In that if Lieberman was a good fit for his role before, what has changed? That he spoke out against Obama? It's a bad message to send.
Besides if Obama still wants a Cabinet of Rivals, that shows he's not concerned about political differences. Now I'm certainly not saying Lieberman will be offered a Cabinet post, but I don't think he's going to be marginalized and froze out like we are fantasizing about.
October 26, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really?
I think a worse message to send is this: you can stick it to your party continually, support an obviously unhinged candidate for President, try to undermine the Democratic nominee (who campaigned for you during an extremely tough primary fight) and there aren't any consequences?
Seriously?
October 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely spot on.
October 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
And I do think they'll take Joe's committees cause they won't need him anymore and unless he behaves he'll find himself with the minority = and he can't get things done for Connecticut.
October 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is one place where it would have been nice to have a fly somewhere on some wall. We can speculate all we want on loyalty and him getting booted, but what matters are promises that have been made when he caucused and when he decided to back McCain.
My guess is that he will eventually loose it all, but it will probably be a year from now, not in January.
October 26, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh. Looks like some of your nodes were unsuitable!
Anyway, sorry Jonze, cmte chairs are NOT doled out with message-sending in mind.
Not sure if it still works this way, but at one time cmte chairs and assignments were subject to secret-ballot ratification by the caucus membership. The leadership (Steering and Policy Cmte) can recommend, but the caucus has to approve.
So, what message do you think THEY are going to want to send???
October 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama wants to reach across the aisle, which I hope he does, he'll do this by working with actual Republicans. They've got enough problems of their own that nobody will lift a finger to help Traitor Joe as he twists in the wind.
October 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman: I Respect Obama
Baloney. He trashes Obama at every turn, speaks at the RNC nominating convention tossing more red meat to the masses, campaigns with McCain, then when his loss seems assured, starts trying to mend fences 1 week before the election in the hopes of..... I don't buy it. Marginalize him in January.
October 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Zell Lieberman learned a lot from his older brother in Georgia.
October 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
A - remember, he's not a Democrat anymore, he chooses to caucus with the Democrats (mostly to keep his privileges).
B - The word 'self-serving' could have been created specifically for Lieberman. I have a professor who knew him in college and told me that he was exactly the same back then. He would do or say anything in order to promote himself. I'm sure that he was hoping to become either Vice President or Secretary of State, and now that he sees it's not going to happen, he's mending fences. The thing is that all his peers already know this. Remember, Lieberman was the first Democrat to publicly excoriate Bill Clinton back in the 1990's, and I think that's the reason Gore picked him, which means that Lieberman is hugely responsible for the Bush presidency. Thank God that he most probably won't be responsible for continuing it with McCain.
October 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only thing Lieberman did with his chairmanship of the Homeland Security & Gov't Affairs Committee was change the seating order.
No investigation of the Katrina response. No investigation of fraud and waste in Iraq. Waxman did all the heavy lifting in the House's parallel committee.
His loyalties are obvious, and have been for quite some time. Enough with the "independent Democrat" bullshit; make him run as a Republican.
October 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, he did pester YouTube to take down some videos....
October 26, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
He also harangued against video game violence and voted for more actual violence in Iraq.
October 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Things really working out well for Zell, in GA?
October 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Joe, we have. It's time for you to go quietly now. The less fuss and bother on your part, the better.
October 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
October 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
The man is a natural moral traitor. The sheer narcissitic gall is simply incredible. He is utterly incapable of distinguishing between self-interest and the public interest. They are one and the same in Joe's world.
If there is any justice in our cosmos, come next year he will find himself unable to caucus with either party. Expelled from the Democratic caucus, he goes crawling over to the Republicans and finds they have no use for him either because of his rat-like desertion once the Republican ship went bow-up and headed for Davy Jones' locker. Denied any committee asignments, bereft of influence, bereft of friends and under pressure to resign by the folks back home, he whiles away the remainder of his term in ignominious obscurity.
October 26, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Narcissistic is right. So is moral traitor.
Self-righteous, as well.
Wonder if Joe knew this was coming:
Full endorsement here: Hartford Courant endorses Obama.
(There's a nice picture of Obama at the top).
October 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wonderful!
October 26, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I like that.
October 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman is a rat. As a kid we used to shoot rats over at the town dump. That was a very long time ago. It was great fun. Maybe those days are coming back. Sure seems the rat population is on the rise. Sure as hell they always come back. Unless you really keep after 'em.
October 26, 2008 2:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
HMMM, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Gallup poll that shows 75% (!) of U.S. Jews support Obama.
October 26, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031176.html
October 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I had no idea it was that high, thanks.
October 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
NEW DNC ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4TNt6I9vCY
October 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish this were (perhaps a bit edited down and) aired.
October 26, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a transparent suck-up strategy, Joe! You're a bum!
October 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeez Joe = you aren't transparent or anything or too little too late.
Fuck you Lieberman.
October 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've never liked Joe Lieberman. I wish Ned Lamont had defeated him. I feel nothing but contempt when I think about the fact that Lieberman has supported Bush and McCain on foreign policy. Nevertheless, it might be counterproductive to kick Joe out of the Democratic Caucus. His voting record is good on environmental issues, social justice, and issues that affect the health and economic well being of working people. Democrats need every vote they can get. So I say: Hold your nose, welcome this scumbag back into the Democratic Party, and plan to send money to his opponent in the Connecticut primary four years from now.
October 26, 2008 2:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
He actually voted with the Democrats most of the time.
October 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've got to disagree. If the party is going to prosper long term, it has to stand by some principles. Among those, I'd suggest, is that the ends don't justify the means. One doesn't let the infected tissue affect the healthy. One cuts it out.
October 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish I knew more about how the Dem caucus worked.
I don't see much up-side to kicking Joe out of the Dem caucus; it might not even be possible. (I just don't know, but it doesn't really matter. I might spend some time trying to look it up.)
But there's no reason to give him any committee chairmanships, even though they're usually granted based on seniority. Question is, without any chairmanships, would Joe still want to caucus with the Dems?
October 26, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
WTF was CT thinking? It wasn't country first.
October 26, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Joe thinks that McCain is going to lose in a landslide and that whatever he thought he might gain from defecting to the Republicans (VP, Sec. of Def., etc.) will never happen and will be even less likely to happen under a Palin-led party. Beyond that, being a selfish, vindictive bastard, he must be furious that he was passed over for VP for such a twit as Sarah P. And he must also be furious that the selection of Palin might well be - ultimately - the reason McCain loses, and thereby the reason for the cancellation of the Iran Shock & Awe campaign that little Joey masturbates to nightly.
I also heard an environmental ratings organization on the radio and they gave Lieberman 100% on environmental issues. In spite of his arch neo-con foreign policy ideas, in other ways, he's still basically a democrat from a democratic state. If nuking Iran is off the table, what else does defection to a decimated GOP hold for him?
Since he has no integrity and will do anything to advance his own career, he seems to be trying to engineer a soft landing whereby he can continue to caucus with the dems and retain his committee assignments.
This is kind of nice for us because if he turns out to be #60, it would be better to bury the hatchet than get the sweet revenge that's been so long in the offing.
On the other hand, if he's 58, 59, or 61 ... I say OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!
October 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's what I think of Joe, and his fabulous environmental rating: fuck that.
Here in CT, we have another "moderate" Republican in Chris Shays who is indeed, "moderate" relative to the current loonies in the Republican party. Sounds good, right? Well, no, because Chris Shays gets to champion all that "moderation" on a whole host of issues, while voting to continue the damn war in Iraq at every opportunity. Frankly, Shays is, in a way, more dangerous than the loonies, because he fools people into thinking that he's going to be reasonable on the single most important issue our country has been facing for some six years now. And he isn't reasonable on that.
Same problem with Joe Lieberman. He's with the Democrats on a variety of issues, but on that very same issue, he's ennabled the Republicans and that incompetent boob in the White House to continue this war. So fabulous for Joe that environmentalists rate him so highly. Meanwhile, the war continues. Priorities.
October 26, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's how CooCoo Bananas got himself close enough to steal the '00 election - he ran as a reasonable moderate.
He lied with every breath he took - "America isn't in the business of building empires" -
Jebus
October 26, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cosign.
Not to mention the horrific and destructive precedent set by failing to punish someone who deliberately and with malice aforethought worked to destroy the Democratic presidential nominee and Democratic candidates nationwide.
But Reid, Schumer and the rest of the DINO "leadership" have made their principles plain since December 2006. They will, without a doubt, welcome Lieberman back with open arms, all is forgiven, and take yet another shiv in the back from him with bloody smiles.
October 27, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good Point.
October 26, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd still like to know exactly what Obama said to Lieberman in the halls of Congress when things started to get heated up. Remember when Obama pulled him to the side then Lieberman chased him down?
October 26, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well yeah; otherwise he wouldn't be saying this.
October 26, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah. He's attempting to lay tracklines back to the people and Party he abandoned for McCain.
Unbelievable that he supported using Ayers and Wright against Obama.
October 26, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tailgunner Joe is more like TailTURNER Joe.
Glad you respect Obama, Joe. No one respects you anymore. I kept a Gore/Lieberman pin on my pack since 2000 in protest. I scratched Joe's name off the ticket after the invasion of Iraq. Since then... how many daggers in Obama's back, Joe?
Respect? In the nerve rankling voice of Sarah Palin: Say it ain't so Joe!
http://thetruthburns.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/i-pledge-allegiance%e2%80%a6-a-work-in-progress/
October 26, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman is just beginning to cover his ass. He knows McCain is all but out and he doesn't want to lose his chairmanship. Even the Republicans are bailing onMcCain and he will get no charity from them in the new Congress. If the Dems get close to 60 seats in the Senate, Joe can kiss his good bye. And good riddance. What a condescending forked tongue asshole he is. To him there is no issue other than Israel. Israel IS important, we are treaty co-signers and they will get our protection, not like they aren't now, when necessary but, they aren't our FIRST priority as they are Joe's. Too bad he has 4 more years. It would be great to make him a back bencher for all four of them.
October 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman is a rat.
As anyone who's ever had one for a pet will tell you, rats are sweet, loving, intelligent and adorable.
Lieberman is a cross between a snake and weasel.
October 26, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
October 26, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't insult snakes and weasels either. I agree with you on principle though.
October 26, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Animals don't ever reach the lows that humans do.
If they did, we could start calling them Liebermans as in "Man, that weasel is such a Lieberman....."
October 26, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
But plants do. You can't get much lower than a Bush.
October 26, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman. Hmmmm....This one seems to be cured.
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/maverick-personality-disorder.html
Sunday, October 26, 2008
Maverick Personality Disorder
Palin may reject complicated scientific definitions.
Despite this, McCain and Palin have managed to make a contribution to the scientific literature.
Before this campaign, the term "maverick" was used loosely, imprecisely.
Now, on the basis of extensive behavioral observations and study, we can firmly say what a "maverick" actually is.
It's a personality disorder:
Maverick Personality Disorder 400.00 (Cluster B)
Maverick Personality Disorder is defined by a tendency to make rash, impulsive decisions that are regarded as both bold and correct--even if the decision directly contradicts another "bold" and "correct" decision that has been made only moments before. This impulsivity is to be distinguished from that seen in Borderline Personality Disorder in that in the latter disorder, self-destructive behavior is overt and intentional, whereas in Maverick Personality Disorder, the impulsive behavior is largely self-destructive, but the individual is rarely aware of it, instead thinking that they are acting "from their gut" in a reasonable fashion.
Sharp mood swings, dramatic gestures, and statements that reflect poor judgment and at times reduced perception of reality (e.g. "the fundamentals of the economy are sound") often occur in the disorder.
A. Three of the following symptoms, displayed in a persistent fashion over a period of 1 year, are necessary for the disorder:
a) Impulsive, rash thoughts and decision-making, often on matters of considerable long-term importance, the impact of which may have major deterimental effects on the individual or others. The impulsive decisions are often justified by such statements as being a "courageous thinker", and by disavowing thought and deliberation as negative characteristics. Notably, despite repeated negative outcomes of this impulsive decision making, the individual still maintains that this behavioral style is correct, and will become testy and irritable when challenged, or when reminded of previous negative outcomes. Ideas that are entirely at odds with each other may be seen concurrently, and such contradictions may be presented by the individual as entirely rational.
2) Dramatic, sweeping, impulsive and grandiose gestures that are meant to change a situation in its entirety, yet are often poorly thought through. The individual may present these acts as gallant and heroic, yet the individual often appears desperate, and provides only a paper-thin rationale for the efficacy of the actions.
3)Extreme mood swings or changes in affect, from apparently happy, to extreme anger and rage. Often these emotions will occur simultaneously, as in the "angry grimacing smile."
4)Binges, sprees or reckless/dangerous behavior without recognizing the potential consequences of such behavior, such as shopping sprees, entering interviews without knowledge of the subject at hand, or naming Vice Presidential candidates without sufficient vetting.
5) "Going Rogue": The tendency to stray from previous professional, social and personal commitments in an effort to protect the self.
6) Dissociative Speech Disturbances: The marked tendency to speak for extensive period of time without any apparent linkage between speech centers and centers of actual thought. The individual may appear entirely confident in what they are saying, speaking at length without pause, without displaying any deliberation, cerebration, contemplation or any other forms of thought whatsoever. With these speech disturbances may occur various accompanying behaviors, such as winking, thumb-raising, etc.
7) Dissociative Changes in Ideation: The individual may disavow major aspects of what they claimed to be the center of their beliefs--e.g., the viability of major tax cuts for the wealthy.
8) Verbal Echolalia: The seemingly uncontrollable repetition of certain words and phrases, even when they appear to have ritualistic meaning or have little or no purpose, remaining utility, or underlying truth. E.g., "My friends", "Socialist", "Joe the Plumber".
B. These behaviors must cause marked impairment in one's professional activities or campaign, and are obsessively maintained even when their destructive impact is clear.
C. These behaviors cannot occur exclusively during a period of Bipolar/Manic Depressive Illness, Major Depression, or political inactivity.
Codes for severity:
MPD Mild 400.01: Mutters to self and wanders grumpily during debate; threatens to attack Russia because it is in view;
MPD Moderate 400.02: Races to "save economy" that he claims is fundamentally sound; Appeals to others as "Average Mom", then wears $150,000 in wardrobe and makeup;
MPD Severe 400.03: Invokes "Joe the Plumber" despite long past sell-by date; Sits down in interview with Katie Couric.
Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/maverick-personality-disorder.html
October 26, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do you understand the difference between a comment and a post?
October 26, 2008 8:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on my people! Aren't we being a little too hard on Joe-the-Shithead?
October 26, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Robert Hewson is the Joe Lieberman of TPM.
October 26, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
October 26, 2008 5:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed.
October 26, 2008 8:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
>>he slammed Obama and heralded Palin, a woman he had only met for a few minutes.>>
He was under the assumption that she supports Israel. She did until someone informed her that Jews live there.
The joke's on you, Holy Joe.
October 26, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Benjamin Disraeli's description of another politician seem appropriate for Lieberputz:
...you've had Joe the Plumber now you get Joe Plumb the Depths of Shamelessness...
October 26, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love it! Nice replay! ;)
October 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
ftw!!!
October 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't forget Disraeli's famous response to Gladstone saying "I predict you will die either on the gallows or of some horrible disease."
Disraeli: "That depends on whether I embrace your principles or your mistress."
October 27, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am probably in the minority in the Dem party but I think Joe the Weasel was perfectly within his rights to support John McCain if that is who he thought was going to be a better Pres. I don't think that demonizing him for that is any better than the Repugs should demonize Chuck Hagel (er, his wife) or Colin Powell (etc etc etc etc) for supporting Obama.
However, that said - a) I don't think that is why he supported McSame and b) he crossed the line with the slurs - And now all of a sudden, he respects him. He is definitely trying to save his arse - and for that he should be demonized.
October 26, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
funny, i don't remember powell or hagel joining obama's campaign team, mugging the cameras as a surrogate and following him around on the stump ...
October 26, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's simple and political. In case McCain wins, will Republicans run against Lieberman in Connecticut?... In case Obama wins, will Democrats? You bet.
October 26, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
US strikes Syria...gee, I wonder why?
October 26, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say what?
October 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. US carries air strikes on the Syrian side killing eight people.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7692153.stm
October 26, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://wonkette.com/403823/your-guide-to-americas-new-war-in-syria
joy!
October 26, 2008 3:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG! Our October Surprise? Now the GOP are going to shine a big fucking light on every twitch made by Barack Obama. Are they in for another October Surprise.
October 26, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Drudge's screaming headline is a bit misleading.
From Reuters:
We didn't "strike" Syria.
October 26, 2008 3:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Drudge's screaming headline is a bit misleading.
understatement of the year....anyone see wag the dog?
October 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just a bit since I can't find one piece of news about it anywhere else.
October 26, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
BBC and Reuters are carrying it. As is Drudge.
They're also carrying reports that the president of Iran is ill.
Which the NY Times is, as well, but so far, no mention of the border clash.
October 26, 2008 3:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
This Google News index page might help.
October 26, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks - way to make me look like an idiot.
The whole page is Syria. LOL!
October 26, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Heh. Sometimes Google makes me look like an idiot, too. And I work for them!
It might be a sign of getting old, but occasionally looking like an idiot doesn't bother me much anymore :-)
October 26, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
O hell - that's my natural state.
I know what you mean very well - when I think how self-conscious I used to be...
LOL - that was quite the waste of energy.
October 26, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep. I see what they mean about regretting the temptations I resisted for fear of looking foolish!
October 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's all Al Gore's fault. I remember thinking, WTF?!
October 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Syria has claimed that US military helicopters launched air strikes on a village close to its border with Iraq, killing nine people.
Last Updated: 7:07PM GMT 26 Oct 2008
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/3264165/Syria-claims-US-helicopters-attacked-village.html
October 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Do we know for certain that Syria is telling the truth? I mean, I don't trust Bush but I also don't trust Syria -
October 26, 2008 3:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry Joe, we Demo's aren't as stupid as your BFF's at the GOP.
After the election you will be a man without a country, you'll be lucky to use the senate cloak room.
Once you're kicked out of the caucus and removed from all leadership positions, you'll have a lot of time to spend on the air with your friends at FOX.
May you should consider resigning since you'll be of little use to you constituents, better yet you and Senator Craig can form the "Pariah Caucus": Senators whos colleagues wouldn't be caught death with.
October 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did anyone really think GWB would go quietly?
October 26, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a tactical assault, small unit incursion.
BTW, 100,000 show up for Denver rally for the O today (per CNN).
October 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was just going to post that--the Denver number.
And thank you for the sanity on the "US STRIKES SYRIA" issue.
October 26, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah thank you.
And I read this morning that McCain's New Mexico rally drew about 3000 people and Obama's drew 35,000.
October 26, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is called a hot pursuit type of operation...Called an H&I (Harrassment and Interdiction) a hot pursuit type of operation. Basically you follow and/or pursue known targets, take them out and withdraw.
October 26, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
I appreciate the details people - that wasn't great news to hear all of a sudden like that. I keep waiting for Bush to start yet another war -
October 26, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Except, of course, if you're McScum and the enemy is retreating to its hideout in Pakistan.
October 26, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to the Denver Post, up to now the largest estimated crowd in Civic Center for a recent political event was 50,000 at an immigrant rights march in 2006.
October 26, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
does a small tactical incursion carry less weight? Syria is still a sovereign nation, no?
Any picts anywhere on the Denver crowd?
October 26, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
ben smith has a picture, over at politico
October 26, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/The_crowd_in_Denver.html
October 26, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, Stash!
Pete just had a birthday this week: he turned 11.
October 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PETE!!!! {{{MWAH!}}} ;)
October 26, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
um... The mwah-kissy is for the cat, CT.
October 26, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
Understood.
October 26, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes as there is no border re-inforceements by large American units (More than Comapny size)
We had similar events along the HO Chi Minh trail...In this War we have done it previously in Turkey,Pakistan and Iran!
October 26, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I knew we had recently incurred over into Turkey - but they are supposedly allies.
October 26, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't warn your aally, until after the attack, then apologize, same as Pakistan...That way they can have political cover, even if they were complicit.
October 26, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't thinking of the prior warning so much as the aftermath -
October 26, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Policy changed after Somalia Ranger incident...They knew we were coming!
October 26, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Basically I guess what I'm trying to get to is this: so, will Syria be ok with this incursion, then? In other words - they can protest it, but as long as we haven't started a fucking shooting war with Syria, ok.
I'm good -
October 26, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's the point I was trying to get to too. Thanks for bringing it up.
October 26, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Syrians have too many Iraqi refugees in their country. And would like to see the Iraqis get out of their Country, since it is a drain on their ecenomy and has a destalizing effec. That's why the detente we have with Syria, since the American incursion in the region (War with Iraq)...They will yell "Holy Hell" with the UN and do nothing with a wink and a nod. Unless of course we bomb a hospital or something like that.
If it were serious, Condy Rice would be on the air right now.
October 26, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you so much for that.
October 26, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Probably the fact that Obama is gonna wipe the floor with McCain next Tuesday has a LOT to do with it.
God, this sanctimonious hypocrite needs to be run out of government on a rail. The sooner, the better.
October 26, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
O god I wish it was next Tuesday.
It's still Tuesday week.
October 26, 2008 3:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome to Hell Week!
October 26, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Said with that avatar and that name, and a whole new meaning emerges. ;)
October 26, 2008 3:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
i guess today we are all syrians?
October 26, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
O/T, but while looking thorugh Google News for word on Syria, this headline pooped out at me:
October 26, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even mockery will not mock McCain more than reality. Here is Sarah Palin make a surprising appearence on the trail in Cedar Rapids.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Halloween_in_Cedar_Rapids.html#comments
October 26, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh, I can't bear to watch. Is this the stop where she told the audience it ain't over until it's over?
We can laugh, but in print, it really didn't appear that she was trying to be facetious. And it gave me the creeps...
October 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Children often have marvelous insight into the adult world. My daughter, age 6, recently asked, "John McCain doesn't respect Barack Obama. Why is that?"
I don't think she's seen Lieberman before, but I hope she'd see through this. ;-o
October 26, 2008 3:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
The NY Post article on Palin is an eye opener. They're saying she's convinced her reputation is being damaged and the repug aides ruining the campaign. It's not her campaign in the first place; its' McCain's. She doesn't realize she's being given a subtle cue to salvage her reputation by backing out and leave McCain to his own destiny.
October 26, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I haven't read the NY Post article, but I honestly think she actually thinks it's her campaign from the beginning.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Palin_talks_clothes_at_length.html?showall
Keeps talking about the clothes on and on and on...
October 26, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
here is a live blog of the Obama rally in Denver, where 100,000 turned out.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/24/obama-rally-prompts-denver-to-beef-up-sunday/
What I respect about Obama is his consistent (thoughout his entire life) practice of not returning hate with hate, his unwillingness to bicker, and his unceasing compassion for everyone. He sticks to his plan, his beliefs, his strategy, and manages to point out the weaknesses in his opponents statements, policies and beliefs without nastiness.
I would like to embody this attitude more in my life.
October 26, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I would like to embody this attitude more in my life."
True.
October 26, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cosign. Cynical, pessimistic old fart that I am, Obama makes me want to be a better person.
October 27, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I fucking hate Joe Fucking Liebermanfucking. Fuck this fucking asshole. If it walks like a fuckhead, thinks like a fuckhead, and talks like a fuckhead, then it's a goddamn fuckhead. I hope the first time he attempts to shake hands across the aisle, Al Franken hits him with a joy buzzer powered by 10,000 volts of solar-powered electricity. And as this sleazy-mother-fucking-asshole lights up like a goddamn menora, he squeals like the pig that he is. He has a puss-bag personality and a face to match.
Rage Quota at 50%. Next post: how I really feel about this ambidextrous turd.
October 26, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
WORD WORD WORD!
October 26, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Barack Obama truly understands what it means to be "of service".
October 26, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
That $150,000 on clothes really hurt Palin - she's been squealing ever since and I notice now she's saying that 2/3ds of them have been returned.
Anyone who believes that - raise your hand.
October 26, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's finger...That Finger.
October 26, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
uh, none of my limbs or digits will move.
October 26, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see no hands - that means y'all don't believe it any more than I do.
They bought her jewelry, too - she has been wearing designer earrings ever since they put her in designer clothes. I happen to know how much that shit costs cause I'm a jewelry fanatic -
October 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
2/3 of $250,000 returned = $75,000 not returned! That's got to be worth more than all of the clothing than I've ever bought in my life!
October 26, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
My name is my program.
Just wrote to Dodd to make sure he is not supporting this turncoat CT in 2009.
Others may want to wait till after the election LOL
October 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
OT: I am really pissed off about the endangered species decimation the Bush administration is trying to pull off on it's way out. Does anyone know if they accomplished reading all the public comments in the thirty some hours? I heard they hired tons of people to do so, but they would have had to read over 6k per person per hour to meet the deadline.
October 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you will recall, Clinton used his last days in office to finally pull off a number of extremely liberal environmental rules -including shutting down roads in wilderness areas. I was so excited.
Then Bush was elected and rolled every bit of it back.
My point, Amelie, is that I doubt there's anything permanent about what Bush is doing.
October 26, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, I also remember the sleazy pardons. I expect we'll see plenty of that from Bush.
October 26, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
O I do too and there will be because there always are. It's one of the very last things they do = granting presidential pardons.
And there's always someone they shouldn't have - I can't recall a time it hasn't come back to bite them in some way.
October 26, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Tena. It was no surprise, was it? I did read Obama would address this if elected, he has already committed.
October 26, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome to obsecurity, no power and the label of traitor
October 26, 2008 4:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG, I wish they would post a new subject, seeing that face (Joe) every time I come back here is so nauseating.
October 26, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
O Co-sign.
Where's Eric - isn't he supposed to be telling us the race is tightening? Or is that tomorrow -
;)
October 26, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
It was funny on CNN a while ago. As we saw, the Denver numbers for Obama's appearance set a new record by 50k, and in Ohio, McCain had a few hundred people there, according to the reporter.
October 26, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
New record for number of people at that site, just to clarify.
October 26, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow - I am reading conflicting reports on the numbers in New Mexico yesterday - apparently McLame drew about 1500 people and Obama drew 35,000 inside and there were another estimated 15,000 who coudn't get it and were outside listening to him.
October 26, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here are some great pictures from Denver, they estimated 75k, had to up that to "well over" 100k, police confirmed number.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/26/obama-draws-100000-at-den_n_137951.html
October 26, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to the Denver Post it's more than 100,000 people and could possibly be the biggest Obama rally in the country ever beating St Louis from past weekend.
But here is the cool part...Polling stations are open today in Denver, Obama volunteers were near the site noting down contact details of GOTV operation and assisting crowd to polling places for early voting.
It's clear,Obama thinks he has convinced enough voters to win, I think this week he'll mostly focus on GOTV in battleground states.
October 26, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I figured that's what the St. Louis rally was about, as well. Not so much the GOTV, actual voting, but a practice run: ok, volunteers, how many people can you get to show at this rally?
(Where contact information was presumably collected, as well).
I imagine Wednesday's rally with Bubba should be likewise well-attended.
October 26, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain by 2 in Arizona
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/printDS/264209
October 26, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Look for some AZure Blue in about a week and a half.
October 26, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just wondering.
LIEberman has an interview with Republican Slanted NewsMax, but he continues to call himself an "Independent Democrat".
Has he done any interviews with any Democratic Leaning news org of any type (TV, Radio, Paper, Mag, Website), or is it just FAUX, Wash Times, NewsMax, etc?
Just wondering how "Independent" and "Democratic" GI JOE "really is".
October 26, 2008 4:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was looking at the WaPo headlines and I saw this:
Excuse me - the names are on the cards just like they are in checks and there aren't any goddamn faces on checks, either.
This makes me furious - all my donations have been online and if they think there's something wrong then I wish they'd talk to me. I'm just beyond pissed about this - America financed Obama's campaign and the Repugs can't stand it.
October 26, 2008 5:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. The GOP is whining about this SO LOUDLY and want it changed, as they know this would never happen with one of their candidates. No one made McCain accept public financing. And these faceless cards have our addresses, our professions, etc. What a crock of shit.
October 26, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly - you have to check that box that says I swear this is me and this is who I don't work for anymore -
Come the fuck on.
It's particularly ridiculous when checks aren't any more reliable than a credit card if they want to claim a donation is somehow illegal -
October 26, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's called recognition that one chose the wrong team to cheer for ....
Now that we are not going to be the leaders can I be on your team? please ... please ... please!
What a sick egotistical weasle.
I agree with Nara ... Lieberman must pay.
October 26, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Its not FAAAAAIRRRRRR! Somebody has to stop that awful man from raising all this money from mere peons! How can we possibly buy influence if the rabble are going to be allowed to outbid us this way? I'm a Pioneer for Bush, goddammit and its MY governement, bought and paid for and I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue if you don't give it back!"
October 26, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on Tena! You know they make up their complaints as they go along and the obvious answer never crosses their minds!
October 26, 2008 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
And its not hard for them to come up with stuff. Most of the accusations are a form of projecting their own behaviors or motivations onto opponents.
October 26, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I see Eric must have read the thread - he's put up a new post and yes, Obama's lead dipped slightly from yesterday. How does that happen in 24 hours?
See you upstairs!
October 26, 2008 5:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
If I may boldly suggest that Lieberman is now telling the full truth?
You see, when you've had your ass unexpectedly whupped, you tend to respect the ass-whupper.
October 26, 2008 5:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
So many of you seem to think this apology won't be effective.
Wanna bet Reid and Pelosi won't welcome him back with open arms?
October 26, 2008 5:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
regbad,
Only if he is the decisive vote in the Senate :(((
October 26, 2008 6:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman must pay....
October 26, 2008 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
"[W]hat happened in the last few weeks that turned Obama from someone who doesn't put the country first, might listen to anti-American characters when he's in office, and wants to cut off resources for American troops, into someone who Lieberman respects and could support for president down the road?"
It looks more and more likely that Obama will win.
October 26, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
In response to a CT poster...Lieberman, after winning the 2006 election against Ned Lamont, will serve until January 3, 2013. Fortunately he will be too f'in old to run again as...what, a Green Party(?) Libertarian(?) Druid(?) Party candidate. The State of Connecticut Democrats deeply apologize to the DNC, Obama and Biden for him. Truthfully, he would support Captain Crunch for the NutandHoney Party if he thought it would get him a cabinet seat. Mea Culpa US DEMOCRATS...thankfully I voted for Lamont.
October 26, 2008 6:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Joe is an "O". That stands for "opportunist." So Joe-O jumps from a sinking ship when it looks like it's time for the rats to do so. I think he's hoping to get the same treatment from Obama that Obama gave to Colin Powell, but I suspect he's wrong and will receive his comeuppance after the dust has settled. On a personal note, Joe-O seemed very smarmy to me as a speaker and as a newly converted Independent. Being an Independent, myself, I never welcomed him to our ranks. So, Toodle-O, Joe-O.
October 26, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would expect another tense chat on the floor of the senate between the two of them before this is over...
October 26, 2008 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too late, schmuck.
October 26, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman is toast. Payback is a bitch.
October 26, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha! It's not a good sign for the McCain campaign when their biggest fan begins to distance himself...
October 26, 2008 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck this dude.
October 26, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say "Good night" Joe
October 26, 2008 11:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny, that reminds me of the Lieberman cartoon at the Reasons To Be Cheerful, Part 3 blog...
October 27, 2008 1:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have good friends who live in CT, and I NEVER let them forget what a disgusting jerk they have for a Senator.
Last night the movie Recount was on, and I was reminded again of Leiberloser on MTP, screwing his own ticket on the military vote.
October 27, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is no reason to keep him, he's not a reliable vote for the Dems, strip him or committees and set him free.
Q.E.D.
November 6, 2008 5:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe if they needed him for the 60th vote, but as it is, he's not worth the trouble. He's already gone rogue, cut him loose and let him make his own way.
Frankly, he'd be better off as a Republican now, considering that Connecticut is going to spank him so hard in 2012 that his grandchildren will feel it.
November 6, 2008 6:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lieberman is trying to argue his case by invoking the spirit of bipartisanship. Well, I don't think bipartisanship is the issue. It's about upholding party discipline --- whoever inflicts such a damage on the party should be punished --- and furthering party development --- why would a national party in power award such a leadership position to a hostile non-member when at least a few Senate Democrats were equally qualified for the job.
November 6, 2008 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the RAGE of the majority, regular folks like us, must be heard by the MSM who hang out in Beltway bars and hob-nob with Lieberman. "Oh, he's OK, let him back in." Bullshit. I wrote Stan Simpson of the Hartford Courant last week and tried to get him to write a story about how America hates Lieberman. His email is ssimpson@courant.com. Maybe we should all email this guy or another reporter and let Lieber-fuck's hometown paper know how we feel.
ssimpson@courant.com
November 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sen. Joseph Lieberman is a disgrace to his religious faith, to the people of Connecticut, and to the Senate! He is lying about what he said, he lied during the campaign, and he joined in the terrorist and racial episodes as a prompter. While millions of Jews, as concerned as he supposedly is about the fate of Israel, voted for Obama - he became McCain's Third Testicle. While feigning support for troops and the war, his lack of understanding for the feelings of others (vets, poor, gays) slowly evaporated. There is not one good reason given for his defection, especially the 'conscience' rational. Because of conscience did he turn on a constituency that had supported him, Democratic donors and elected officials who footed the bill for his VP run, and many others - the least of whom are the uncounted Suni Arabs and American troops who have perished in Bush's war. Ideologically he has joined the camp of the avaricetas, and the people happy with war and destruction. and those unfaithful to the religion of their fathers. I hope he is tried along with Bush, Chenny and Rumsfeld as a war criminal!
November 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
NH Bob:
Agree with all your comments, as a Jew I am disgusted by Lieberman. Just found out Christopher Keating writes the political blog for the Hartford Courant, ckeating@courant.com. I just emailed him about the HATRED we all feel for Lieberman, trying to get him to write a story.
November 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink