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RNC North Carolina Mailer Features Hillary And Biden Hitting Obama
A reader in North Carolina sends in a harsh mailer that the Republican National Committee has dropped in the state featuring fellow Dems questioning Obama's ability to lead (click on the images to enlarge):
The two marquee quotes, natch, come from Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, and both, unsurprisingly, are from the primary -- a line the GOP has used against Obama before.
Separately, it's pretty astonishing just how much cash and resources the Republicans are being forced to dump into this southern state, one that hasn't voted for a Dem for president in over three decades -- favorite son Jimmy Carter, in 1976.
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In the midst of all this bile and venom, this:
is the only positive out of this situation.
October 16, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scratch that. There are two positives: all the change that the Republicans are being forced to pony up, and, EARLY VOTING BEGAN TODAY. (in NC).
October 16, 2008 3:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's minor thing maybe, or maybe indicative of how out of touch Republicans are. One side says "Democrat" leaders know, even though there's clearly space for the "ic". They keep saying "Democrat" for "Democratic" as an insult, somehow thinking that's going to work. Sometimes it's just amazing how they don't get it, but when comparing how they campaign to how they govern, they're pretty consistent.
October 16, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, we now own "can" (as in Yes We Can), so call them the Republi Party. Tit for tat, as it were.
October 16, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
What silliness considering Biden is on the ticket and Hillary is vigorously campaigning for Obama.
At least they're spending this money in NC, and playing 100% defense for the final two and a half weeks.
October 16, 2008 3:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's just what I said below, Jonze. We're channeling each other again.
;)
October 16, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
James Taylor is doing concerts there; that guy's voice is still amazing.
October 16, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ground game! Our ace in the hole is our ground game.
Let them annoy us with calls and mailers. People are just too worried about the economy, keeping their house, keeping their job, to bother with stuff like this.
October 16, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're right, folks aren't going to respond to these robocalls, they're just going to start screening the calls or leaving the phone off the hook
October 16, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I got this mailer in Minnesota too.
October 16, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me, too.
October 16, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Me, too.
October 16, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn, today has been a non-stop parade of slime.
If McCain thinks he was tortured in Hanoi, just imagine when this is all over and he has to live with what he's become for the rest of his miserable life.
October 16, 2008 4:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup. The torturer of Truth.
October 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
He'll be ok. All he has to do is snap back into his "Senator McCain" persona.
October 16, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
*rolls eyes*
OK, sure Mccain, whatever. I'm sure we could write books with what various Republicans have said about you over the years.
October 16, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Worse than having to spend $$$ to defend NC is what they are having to spend it on
Democrats Hillary Clinton and running mate Joe Biden
The GOP death agonies mount
October 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Um, Greg, you need an edit, Jimmy Carter is not a "favorite son" of North Carolina. He's from Georgia.
October 16, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
North Carolina, Georgia, pffft! What's the diff?? Jimmy Carter. John Edwards. Pffft! What's the diff?
October 16, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
The south is just the south - it's a big redneck monolith and we all look alike down there, too.
October 16, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
More seriously, Jimmy Carter was a favorite son of the Deep South...in that sense, Georgia and North Carolina are indistinguishable, no?
October 16, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
CT Voter..NC is far better than GA...and we will turnblue this election...and we'll be kicking Dole out of the senate!
October 16, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey now with the GA slaggin' already. We're workin' our asses off down here! Even if it doesn't happen this time around (and I'm not saying it won't) it's about the future.
That said, I'm cheering for a blue NC, too.
October 16, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know I'm being snarky, right?
To some in the Northeast, all the states south of the Mason-Dixon line are just one large red-neck territory, filled with bigots and rejects from the cast of Deliverance...Georgia, North Carolina? Whatever.
Of course, the bigotry and ignorance flow in both directions. Nothing like moving to Oxford Mississippi and being asked if I'd ever seen trees before...
October 16, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes! Me too - I hope you got that I was snarking too and mostly not at you.
October 16, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what they all say . . .
October 16, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
NC not part of the Deep South . . .
October 16, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mailer features Hillary and Biden hitting Obama.
Mailer features McScum kissing Bush.
Which works better?
Bet your money.
:)
October 16, 2008 4:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain was sneering at Barack, criticizing him for never differing with his party.
Now he's trying to smear him for differing with his party.
Well, John, looks like Barack won't be voted Miss Congeniality in the Senate either.
October 16, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
This would be Joe Biden, Obama's running mate, and Hillary Clinton who is campaigning her heart out for Obama?
My god.
October 16, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yup, that's pathetic. Very.
October 16, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
So what? This is pretty stupid.
October 16, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's what I meant, Schrod. It's unbelievably stupid. As in Stoooooopit!
October 16, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not one comment that has posted for me today posted normally. Not one.
Either the server quit responding or there weren't any nodes available. I have to open another page and get to the comments to see if the one I just submitted made it. Most make it, but dayum! Not one has posted normally.
October 16, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
You go to war with the server you have, not the server you wish you had.
October 16, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it rather obvious now, cycle after cycle, that you of party X should not badmouth other members of party X? If candidate #A1 says candidate #A2 is a damned fool, then party B will reply that quote endlessly. Forget that the quotes are "dated"; if I say you're an idiot today, how can I say tomorrow that you're NOT an idiot, and be believed? So the Democrats can thank themselves for the ammunition they've given the Republicans.
The Right Wing in this country enjoys watching people miss all the little details that help them think straight, and the media enjoy it too (it makes them money.) Our culture is reduced to people who reason like someone with an IQ of 80, and frankly my dear, you can sell such people anything if you try long enough.
I look forward to forensically refereed debates, so that when one candidate or another avoids a question and instead lurches into more attacks on the opponent, a loud buzzer sounds EEEEEEEEET! And the moderator INTERRUPTS the speaker to say things like "you're not answering the question" or "you're changing the subject." SHOW people how really poor the debates are when there are no rules to enforce processes of reason.
BTW: Bill Ayers was a hero and patriot of this nation when he was a member of the Weather Underground. You wouldn't understand this if you get your news from the TV, though. See the documentary "The Weather Underground" (has been aired on PBS once already.) The fact that the "right" refuses to grapple with what the Weathermen were doing back then just shows they have no sense of real history. If our nation continues to engage in needless illegal wars despite the majority of the public being opposed, then we need a resurgence of organizations like the Weathermen to start re-provoking the consciousness of ordinary Americans.
For that matter, Jeremiah Wright was right in what he said, but the propaganda veneer was pulled over that pretty quickly, with Obama disavowing, in essence, the informed Black struggle for self-determination.
No Truth For You until you take back your media and make it work FOR you instead of the other way around.
October 16, 2008 6:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it rather obvious now, cycle after cycle, that you of party X should not badmouth other members of party X? If candidate #A1 says candidate #A2 is a damned fool, then party B will reply that quote endlessly. Forget that the quotes are "dated"; if I say you're an idiot today, how can I say tomorrow that you're NOT an idiot, and be believed? So the Democrats can thank themselves for the ammunition they've given the Republicans.
The Right Wing in this country enjoys watching people miss all the little details that help them think straight, and the media enjoy it too (it makes them money.) Our culture is reduced to people who reason like someone with an IQ of 80, and frankly my dear, you can sell such people anything if you try long enough.
I look forward to forensically refereed debates, so that when one candidate or another avoids a question and instead lurches into more attacks on the opponent, a loud buzzer sounds EEEEEEEEET! And the moderator INTERRUPTS the speaker to say things like "you're not answering the question" or "you're changing the subject." SHOW people how really poor the debates are when there are no rules to enforce processes of reason.
BTW: Bill Ayers was a hero and patriot of this nation when he was a member of the Weather Underground. You wouldn't understand this if you get your news from the TV, though. See the documentary "The Weather Underground" (has been aired on PBS once already.) The fact that the "right" refuses to grapple with what the Weathermen were doing back then just shows they have no sense of real history. If our nation continues to engage in needless illegal wars despite the majority of the public being opposed, then we need a resurgence of organizations like the Weathermen to start re-provoking the consciousness of ordinary Americans.
For that matter, Jeremiah Wright was right in what he said, but the propaganda veneer was pulled over that pretty quickly, with Obama disavowing, in essence, the informed Black struggle for self-determination.
No Truth For You until you take back your media and make it work FOR you instead of the other way around.
October 16, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it rather obvious now, cycle after cycle, that you of party X should not badmouth other members of party X? If candidate #A1 says candidate #A2 is a damned fool, then party B will reply that quote endlessly. Forget that the quotes are "dated"; if I say you're an idiot today, how can I say tomorrow that you're NOT an idiot, and be believed? So the Democrats can thank themselves for the ammunition they've given the Republicans.
The Right Wing in this country enjoys watching people miss all the little details that help them think straight, and the media enjoy it too (it makes them money.) Our culture is reduced to people who reason like someone with an IQ of 80, and frankly my dear, you can sell such people anything if you try long enough.
I look forward to forensically refereed debates, so that when one candidate or another avoids a question and instead lurches into more attacks on the opponent, a loud buzzer sounds EEEEEEEEET! And the moderator INTERRUPTS the speaker to say things like "you're not answering the question" or "you're changing the subject." SHOW people how really poor the debates are when there are no rules to enforce processes of reason.
BTW: Bill Ayers was a hero and patriot of this nation when he was a member of the Weather Underground. You wouldn't understand this if you get your news from the TV, though. See the documentary "The Weather Underground" (has been aired on PBS once already.) The fact that the "right" refuses to grapple with what the Weathermen were doing back then just shows they have no sense of real history. If our nation continues to engage in needless illegal wars despite the majority of the public being opposed, then we need a resurgence of organizations like the Weathermen to start re-provoking the consciousness of ordinary Americans.
For that matter, Jeremiah Wright was right in what he said, but the propaganda veneer was pulled over that pretty quickly, with Obama disavowing, in essence, the informed Black struggle for self-determination.
No Truth For You until you take back your media and make it work FOR you instead of the other way around.
October 16, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it rather obvious now, cycle after cycle, that you of party X should not badmouth other members of party X? If candidate #A1 says candidate #A2 is a damned fool, then party B will reply that quote endlessly. Forget that the quotes are "dated"; if I say you're an idiot today, how can I say tomorrow that you're NOT an idiot, and be believed? So the Democrats can thank themselves for the ammunition they've given the Republicans.
The Right Wing in this country enjoys watching people miss all the little details that help them think straight, and the media enjoy it too (it makes them money.) Our culture is reduced to people who reason like someone with an IQ of 80, and frankly my dear, you can sell such people anything if you try long enough.
I look forward to forensically refereed debates, so that when one candidate or another avoids a question and instead lurches into more attacks on the opponent, a loud buzzer sounds EEEEEEEEET! And the moderator INTERRUPTS the speaker to say things like "you're not answering the question" or "you're changing the subject." SHOW people how really poor the debates are when there are no rules to enforce processes of reason.
BTW: Bill Ayers was a hero and patriot of this nation when he was a member of the Weather Underground. You wouldn't understand this if you get your news from the TV, though. See the documentary "The Weather Underground" (has been aired on PBS once already.) The fact that the "right" refuses to grapple with what the Weathermen were doing back then just shows they have no sense of real history. If our nation continues to engage in needless illegal wars despite the majority of the public being opposed, then we need a resurgence of organizations like the Weathermen to start re-provoking the consciousness of ordinary Americans.
For that matter, Jeremiah Wright was right in what he said, but the propaganda veneer was pulled over that pretty quickly, with Obama disavowing, in essence, the informed Black struggle for self-determination.
No Truth For You until you take back your media and make it work FOR you instead of the other way around.
October 16, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
sorry for the BS, hopefully they'll clean it up. no nodes, my eye. get more RAM, jeez.
October 16, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Today we began early voting here in NC, and I worked one of the sites in Chapel Hill. Huge turnouts here, in Raleigh, and over in Asheville. These are all the data points I can report, but we're excited down here that it may portend a BLUE horizon.
October 16, 2008 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Today we began early voting here in NC, and I worked one of the sites in Chapel Hill. Huge turnouts here, in Raleigh, and over in Asheville. These are all the data points I can report, but we're excited down here that it may portend a BLUE horizon.
October 16, 2008 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it rather obvious now, cycle after cycle, that you of party X should not badmouth other members of party X? If candidate #A1 says candidate #A2 is a damned fool, then party B will reply that quote endlessly. Forget that the quotes are "dated"; if I say you're an idiot today, how can I say tomorrow that you're NOT an idiot, and be believed? So the Democrats can thank themselves for the ammunition they've given the Republicans.
The Right Wing in this country enjoys watching people miss all the little details that help them think straight, and the media enjoy it too (it makes them money.) Our culture is reduced to people who reason like someone with an IQ of 80, and frankly my dear, you can sell such people anything if you try long enough.
I look forward to forensically refereed debates, so that when one candidate or another avoids a question and instead lurches into more attacks on the opponent, a loud buzzer sounds EEEEEEEEET! And the moderator INTERRUPTS the speaker to say things like "you're not answering the question" or "you're changing the subject." SHOW people how really poor the debates are when there are no rules to enforce processes of reason.
BTW: Bill Ayers was a hero and patriot of this nation when he was a member of the Weather Underground. You wouldn't understand this if you get your news from the TV, though. See the documentary "The Weather Underground" (has been aired on PBS once already.) The fact that the "right" refuses to grapple with what the Weathermen were doing back then just shows they have no sense of real history. If our nation continues to engage in needless illegal wars despite the majority of the public being opposed, then we need a resurgence of organizations like the Weathermen to start re-provoking the consciousness of ordinary Americans.
For that matter, Jeremiah Wright was right in what he said, but the propaganda veneer was pulled over that pretty quickly, with Obama disavowing, in essence, the informed Black struggle for self-determination.
No Truth For You until you take back your media and make it work FOR you instead of the other way around.
October 17, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink