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Palin Supporter To Black Sound Man: "Sit Down, Boy"
Sarah Palin's frequent attacks on the media are now stoking so much outrage among her supporters that they've now taken to abusing reporters:
Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."
Palin's ugly attacks, her non-stop lying, and her glaring buffoonery and incompetence are all the media's fault! It is pretty outrageous, this liberal media conspiracy to report accurately on what Palin says and does as she asks us to put her a heartbeat away from being steward of our troubled economy and controlling the most powerful military in human history.
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Palin's rallies can legitimately be characterized as "hate rallies" since she's the GOP's Eva Braun.
October 7, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well if Godwin's Law has been suspended for the duration of the emergency, Rudolf Hess, or possibly Julius Streicher, would be a better comparison. No one even knew Eva Braun existed.
October 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
What an insult that is to Eva Braun's memory.
October 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well. I certainly hope the kinda mainstream media got all that on tape.
October 7, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed, the KMSM kinda wouldn't be doing it's kinda job if it kinda didn't do that.
October 7, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is it folks: The Dean Scream moment for McPalin.
Frothing up hating, raging crowds. The McPalin express is "officially" unhinged. If there was ever any doubt.
At her next campaign event McPalin will waterski over a shark in a winterwhite KKK suit and stilletos.
You betcha!
October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
And their 'macaca' moment. They seem to be going for style points in shark jumping.
October 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope you're right. This should be the beginning of the end. Her race-baiting, hate-mongering accusations are exposing the McFailin campaign as completely morally devoid (at least for those who were not paying attention until now).
Go Green Wave!!
October 7, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
My guess is that someone had to get it on tape if Dana Milbank (of all people) is reporting it. I don't see him on the trail covering Palin rallies.
October 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I dunno, Milbank has lots of time on his hands since Olbermann canned him.
October 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM has no balls and want the maverick McLame to win, because "he's been counted out lots of time before".
October 7, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/olbermann-special-comment_n_132456.html?page=11&show_comment_id=16518501#comment_16518501
October 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is, as they say, a feature and not a bug.
October 7, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Haha!
October 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Un-f**king-believable. Seriously. I expect less-than-cordial exchanges when in a heated political environment like this... but this is ridiculous.
Oh, and claiming media-bias is a sure sign of a losing candidate. When all else fails, blame the media.
http://thepajamapundit.com/
October 7, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think some people realise that as soon as you blame the media you make an enemy of the media, and that is very, very bad.
October 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, but not if you're straight-talkin' hero John McCain. All his pals in the media know this isn't the "real" McCain, the McCain they've known and fluffed for all these years. Golly, how could it be? Are they not impeccable judges of character, after all? Are they not the ones that saw through the facade and warned us about that dangerously phoney liar Al Gore and, instead, gave us that "breath of fresh air" George W. Bush?
Sure, some of his old pals are mad at him--Richie Cohen, possibly even Bob Schieffer, but Roger Simon and Ron Fournier are still on board, and good ol' Dean Broder is unfazed by what is, after all, just the usual rough and tumble of politics. Once this is all over, McCain will come crawling back to them, contrite and apologetic, he'll blame it all on Schmidt and his own ambition and they'll tear up and kill the fatted calf because the John McCain that they are so sure they know so well has come home.
October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, if Palin manages to get the trailer trash cracker faction of her boosters whipped up into a lynch mob that kills a reporter, McCain's probably going to have a slightly harder time getting back into the good graces of his base. Might take him an extra month or two.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe he can have David Duke come in and talk down the mob before anything gets out of hand.
October 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
And McCain and Palin should be held accountable for what their supporters say.
October 7, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now now, we all know the usual excuse.
October 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
So Obama's ready to take responsibility for everything said by anyone at any of his rallies...?
October 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's very, very weak.
October 7, 2008 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
How? That's what y'all are calling for...it's not the same?
October 7, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, McCain is not responsible for everything said at his rally. But maybe when he clearly hears someone yell "terrorist," and pauses, maybe he should fill that pause nwith maybe even a little, "Now, now". That would be something. But he doesn't. He just gives that mock surprise and that wry grin and the silence and then plunges ahead. Whether he hears someone call Obama "terrorist" or Clinton "bitch."
Because that's what you guys have running this year. A man who will do, say, tolerate, approve anything to win.
It's just shabby. It's like Peggy Noonan said: they (Palin and McCain) are just not big enough for the moment.
October 7, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm just paranoid enough, to wonder if the man shouting "terrorist" wasn't planned.
October 7, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
))))))))))))))-crickets-(((((((((((((((
No response from the resident McSame apologist.
Big surprise.
October 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry, there are several conversations going at once, I know that being a liberal it's all about you and now but you need to wait your turn.
October 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you even *try* and defend these neanderthals you will be revealed as the knuckle-dragging nitwit we all suspect you are...
October 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
please stop insulting knuckle-draggers. Apes (and concomitantly, neanderthals, homo erectus, etc) are in no way implicated in the loutishness on display here. Let's leave the blame squarely where it belongs: on the polar-bear-hating-bomb-loving-McCainiacs.
October 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not defending the idiots that say stupid stuff, I'm saying it's not Palin's or McCain's fault anymore than Obama/Biden are responsible for everything said by anyone attending their rallies.
October 7, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Really? When McCain is booed at Obama rallies, the boo-ers are admonished by none other than Obama.
Does McCain have no duty to correct this person who called Obama a terrorist? Does Palin have no duty to address how out of hand this is getting?
In case you're confused, I'm talking about moral duties here, not legal.
October 7, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree -- liberalism is clearly the cause of everything that is wrong in the world. No more Mr. Nice Guy -- its time to get tough.
The Law of The Land is that shouting "fire" in a crowded theater is not protected speech. Shouting "kill him" in an angry crowd seems directly analogous.
So, simply put: Find 'em. Lock 'em up.
And if the leaders of the pack (McCain and Palin) continue to incite their angry mobs to threats of violence and murder, lock them up too, and throw away the key.
October 7, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd like to think that Obama has the common sense and decency to not support someone from the audience yelling out that his opponent is a terrorist. You're being daft. Don't play this game when it's only one side that is whipping its supporters into a frenzy by using language even George W. Bush stayed away from.
October 7, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
He would never whip people up and "call" for something like that.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have seen Obama on several occassions ask the crowd at his rallies not to boo or be disrespectful to his opponents. McCain, meanwhile, laughed when a woman called Hillary "a bitch" and just stood by and smiled when someone yelled "terrorist".
I do not believe that he or Palin should be held responsible for the ravings of their followers, but I do believe that they have a responsibility of setting some ground rules on what is or is not acceptable behavior at their own rallies.
The fact that you are wasting bandwith justifying this behavior is disappointing.
October 7, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
According to you and your fellow Republican travelers, Obama is already responsible for all that is wrong in the world, so I don't think you are looking for permission from anyone on this thread.
October 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I never claimed Obama was responsible for everything wrong in the world. He is too liberal for my liking, he doesn't have the experience to be President in my opinion. I survived 8 years of Clinton, if I had to I could survive an Obama Presidency. I would just prefer to not have to.
October 7, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Correction then. Your Republican sisters and brethren, including its standard bearer, believes that Obama is responsible for all that is wrong in this country.
October 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Liberalism is responsible for most of what's wrong with this country, I'll give you that. Obama is definately a liberal. However, since he's only been in the Senate for 3 years, and didn't really accomplish anything in those years, it would be unfair to blame him personaly for any of these problems. Beating him in this campaign is more of a preventitive treatment for what ails us.
October 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
At least you wear your intellectual dishonesty proudly on your sleeve.
October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL - stop, my sides hurt! Yeah, that darn "liberalism" of the last 7 years of complete Republican control.
October 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
The local talk radio republican shill here in Boston actually claimed that the republicans currently serving in the House and Senate are just Democrats in disguise. I had to pull over to the side of the road to let the wave of hysterical laughter pass before I could resume driving.
October 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
How does any "ism" by itself accomplish anything at all? Point to behaviors of people, not to "isms." That's just demagoguery.
October 7, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually dogma and extremism is responsible for what's wrong in the world. Yelling things in campaign rallies like "sit down boy", and "kill him", shouldn't be tolerated. It should be clear this behavior is not condoned by the candidates. Period. The extreme sentiments in these cases are only exacerbated by the McCain campaign.
October 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, how is "liberalism" responsible for the economic meltdown?
How is liberalism responsible for the current administration's failed economic policies?
How is liberalism responsible for the current administration's failed policies in Afganistan, Iraq, Israel, Iran, Darfur, Pakistan, et al?
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith
October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
They stacked up the dominos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related
http://www.vote.com/mmp_printerfriendly.php?id=1137
October 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
...and running from it.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93LAKT01&show_article=1
October 7, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'll see your youtube and raise you with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw
October 7, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
...and that has to do what whith who in 2008? (FYI-off topic and inflamitory = troll, unless you are a committed liberal than it's an insightful comment).
October 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
In reference to your "liberalism is the cause..." statement from above.
October 7, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
You mean equal rights, integrated schools, that sort of thing?
October 7, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Stop lying and get something fundamentally straight, Wallace. It is liberalism that brought this country civil rights, women's right, clean air/water/environmental protection, peace, the GI Bill, world respect, got the WTC bomber, attempted to get Bin Laden until thwarted by Republicans and budget surpluses. And those are just for starters. Conservatives have brought us lost world respect, astounding deficits, recession, no action on global warming, started a war with no legitimate reason, and let the mastermind of a direct attack on the US remain at large.
October 7, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
umm lets compare the last 7 years to the Clinton administration shall we now who has ruined the world think you will find it was bush and his mob which includes mcsame fact is you cannot run from the fact you guys have been in charge of the worst 7 years the us has had in it history
October 7, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
But could you survive four years of undiluted Fascism?
October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
You "survived" 8 years of Clinton? Did Clinton have you in some sort of secret Republican internment camp or something?
October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
If so, here's hoping that Malkin was locked-up in it writing a book about how justified it was for her to be there.
October 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I prefer Coulter but Malkin or Ingraham would do in a pinch.
October 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
In his (SFC's) mind! Must have been solitry confinement in a 4x4x4 box, small as SFC's mind is.
October 7, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, the hardships of the 90's. Economic growth, balanced budgets, Stock Market boom. Awful.
October 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
The sound you just heard was the jaw-cracking explosion of my yawn.
You are singing a 1996 song to a 2008 beat, brother. The culture wars are over, friend. Even Pat Buchanan pals around with lesbians now.
October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, yes, lions with lambs.
Maddow isn't still calling that segment "It's Pat," is she? I love the Rach, but that seems a little over the top.
October 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but I love that, because I figure the audience gets it, but ol' Pat does not.
October 7, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, please tell us of your tales of survival through the Clinton years! Did you carry your possessions in a brindle and eat stew from a can over a bumfire? Did someone tell you to stop being politically incorrect? Did the batteries run out on your ghetto blaster when you were trying to listen to Rush Limbaugh?
October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
"...eat stew from a can over a bumfire?"
Don't be hating on hobos, they may end up carrying Ohio for you.
October 7, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's estimated that close to 200,000 of those "hobos" are veterans....as a military man, I would think you could at least show a little respect for your brethren.
October 7, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
"It's estimated that close to 200,000 of those "hobos" are veterans...."
Just because you get a field jacket from Goodwill, it doesn't make you a veteran...besides I didn't start the "hobo" stuff, that was "Bat Guano."
October 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't see Bat Guano use the term "hobo" - that seems to be your little editorial addition to the conversation.
Sure...none of the homeless are "veterans"...I guess it's all just a "liberal" conspiracy, right?
http://www1.va.gov/homeless/page.cfm?pg=1
So much for supporting the troops, right?
October 7, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your right he used "bum" that's soooooo much more politically correct.
October 7, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Until "SFC" posts definitive proof of his status, I prefer to think of him as merely a fraud. When I choose to think of her at all, which is rarely.
October 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not if the republican vote "caging" efforts worx.
October 7, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Another 4 years of republican policies and hobos will be deciding the 2012 election regardless of who wins.
October 7, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
And the country was in so much worse shape after eight years of that Democrat than these last eight years of Republicans.
Pull your head out.
October 7, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know...those first 6 (until Harry and Nancy took the reigns) were a lot better than these last 2.
October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the lickspittle 110th is your idea of a 'liberal' Congress, you truly need to get an education.
October 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
The first six were good, huh? Like I said, pull your head out.
By your logic, all that time that Bill had a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress is the only period we should actually associate with his presidency. Right?
October 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, those 8 years of peace and prosperity were a real bitch, weren't they?
October 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
but the oral sex!!! it was horrrible!!!!!!!
October 7, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's all about YOU. What a shocker.
America would be lucky to survive a McCain, or God Forbid, a Palin Presidency. Is it that hard to see that your Party has royally screwed up this country?
October 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
This comment is in response to SFC, of course. Seems I should take a number to respond.
October 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't worry, I spotted it instantly.
October 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
You "survived Clinton"? The Clinton years were profitable for this nation. We are not "surviving" the Bush years and will not "survive" 4 more years of this (which will happen if McSame is elected). This economic crisis was underwritten by Phil Gramm, McSame's financial advisor. Seriously, how have things gone for you financially the past 8 years?
October 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think they should be held accountable for what someone says, but the issue I'm having with it is the way in which Palin is inciting the crowd in to this behavior. I'm not seeing a case where she's calling for calm or for people to stop -- actually, quite the opposite.
October 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. 100%.
October 7, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. She's saying he's a terrorist sympathizer, and as such a threat to our national security, to a rightwing crowd. We can all do the math.
October 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Brown Shirts shouldn't be too far behind.
October 7, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's like 1992's "Bob Roberts," but without the catchy tunes.
October 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I forgot about that movie. Good. But it seemed a little over the top. I guess I was wrong.
October 7, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone else notice the resemblance between the character and Slimy Norman Coleman? Not just appearance-wise, more the "palpable fraud" aspect.
October 7, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
1992's Bob Roberts.
Shit. Now you've got me imagining a faked-up shooting of Palin or McCain supposedly by an infuriated Obama supporter, publicity from which sweeps them into office.
October 7, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Scary but true. That's how low this country has sunk.
October 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
She's out of control. At this point it's clear that she's slipped her handlers, knows McLame is going to lose and couldn't care less, and is operating on her own account to set herself up for 2012. Yes, she's that egotistical and delusional (in actual fact she's finished even in Alaska).
October 7, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah I think Palin's political career is sinking fast.
October 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
And Alaska itself will nail the coffin shut.
October 7, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, and one day soon she is going to lose control of her ugly crowd and then her ship will sink.
October 7, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
The novelty will have worn off and 4 years of real vetting will make her unelectable to national office.
October 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Boy, I wish that were true, but I doubt it. Until I see actual evidence to the contrary, I will remain convinced that as a national whole, we can only bring ourselves to vote seriously and rationally when we are in trouble. When things are going fine, we indulge in frivolous voting (who would I rather have a beer with? who is better looking?). Sarah Palin is a perfect candidate for a frivolous election year. This is not such an election cycle, but even our present troubles will pass. The crisis will not endure forever. Once Obama stabilizes things and gets our nation back on a more sound and sensible footing, our national urge for bread and circuses will return and Palin will be well positioned to ride that wave. I expect that we have not heard the last of her; moreover, even if we really are done with her specifically, we have many more candidates just as frivolous waiting in the wings.
October 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Console yourself at least that come Nov. 5, the hitherto undisputed belief in the superiority of negative, personalities-based campaigns over substantive campaigns will forever be empirically refuted. It is not an insignificant thing, regardless of the current crises which will play an important role.
Likewise, the world will look much different after four years of an Obama presidency and of his vision and leadership. Liberals and conservatives will learn much from him as will people around the world for he will lead to much more than an economic recovery. He will also push us all to think as a real community and to understand the benefits of such a viewpoint.
We supported Obama over the formidable Clinton because we could not pass up an opportunity for reaching even higher, and higher will we reach, be it even a mere few inches.
October 7, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right offhand, I can't think of any recently failed VP candidate who successfully ran for the Presidency. Agnew? Mondale? Quayle? Kemp? Lieberman? Edwards?
Palin actually restores Quayle's reputation. I don't think she has a chance.
October 7, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agnew didn't run, he was replaced by Ford. You forgot to list Gore amongst your loser list.
October 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's listing failed VP candidates, not failed P candidates.
October 7, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
When did Ford run for Vice President? Gore was a successful VP candidate.
October 7, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
JFK in 1956 and 1960.
October 7, 2008 12:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
In 1956, it was Senator Estes Kefauver of Tennessee.
October 7, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Tucker Eskew at work here. He was part of the team that destroyed McCain in South Carolina. Just exactly how different from president George W. Bush is John McCain?
October 7, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure that frustrated supporter doesn't speak for McCain or Palin, but this is the kind of hatred they are trying to breed out of this.
Calling him a terrorist is so over the lines, it's worthy of a slander suit.
October 7, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's certainly worthy of those with a big enough platform to condemn the campaign.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
October 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I believe the boy just may have a legal challenge to the McCain campaign. I would be filing a complaint in a heartbeat. The campaign is responsible for the actions and the conduct of the people they attract.
October 7, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
The gloves are off and the white hoods are on!
October 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Haha!
October 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Soon, Palin will decry how this band of miscreants, this very evening, interfered with a lynch mob in the performance of its duty. Then he will say they ain't even Old Timey! And then comes the midget, with the broom, because Sarah palin has some of that Re-Form, and is a friend of the little man.
October 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
"They's miscegenated!" Oh dear...
Scary, but also so so funny.
"Hard times flush the chumps..."
October 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not sure what the fashion standard is....can you wear heels with your hood?
October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not after Labor Day.
October 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Incite a mob. And you might be their next victim. I predict they will turn on her eventually.
October 7, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL - Exactly. What you're seeing at work here is the real Republican "base". Those 26%ers that still think Bush is right and the only thing wrong is that the damn, commie, liberal MSM isn't being cowed enough. Truly the "angry, white guys" of the Gingrich revolution.
October 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin shows they're no longer just guys. Women can be white and angry, too.
October 7, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course your hate language is completely acceptable...
October 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even joked about and joined in by the rest...
October 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, your faux outrage and associated hypocrisy (IOKIYAR) has been noted.
October 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not outraged at all, just holding up a mirror.
October 7, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Calling out people's bigotry and racism is not "hate language".
October 7, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't feed the trolls.
October 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
SFC Wallace is not a troll. His status will be determined after the culture war ends and his repatriation is negotiated.
October 7, 2008 1:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is going too far and is just unacceptable.
October 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed. What will be done || can we do about it?
October 7, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Donate. Volunteer. Vote. Landslide.
October 7, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Second'd.
October 7, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Word.
October 7, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Up.
October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
OK!
October 7, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
For now, repudiate and denounce these words and actions. McCain and Palin must be called for this and take responsibility, then stop using this language and pressure their supporters to do the same.
October 7, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
"...then stop using this language and pressure their supporters to do the same."
What "language" are McCain and Palin using?
October 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Implying that Obama's a terrorist through their incendiary language.
October 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
No one's "implying" Obama's a terrorist. We are implying that he has increadibly poor jugement when it comes to picking his political allies and role models. His past associations would be scrutinized in a background check for a sensitive federal position, the Presidency certainly qualifies. He's chosen his associates; you can't cry foul when we point out who they are.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
And what about John McCain's own associations? Don't they disqualify him from the Presidency as well?
October 7, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh...so this just has to do with his background check, huh? You're worried he might not get a security clearance? Aren't you just as worried about Sarah's secessionist husband? Of course you're not.
It's okay that McCain pals around with Liddy who called for shooting ATF agents. That's alright...but God forbid Obama shares the same air with someone who did something stupid 40 years ago and is now a productive member of society.
October 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Out of curiosity, what do you personally believe to be the nature of Obama's relationship with Ayers? Could you describe it for us, so we know where you’re coming from?
October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Evidence shows that they worked together on "The Chicago Annenberg Challenge," they served on board of "The Woods Fund" together, Ayers hosted an event at his home for Obama's first run for office in Chicago and they appeared together at a couple of political forums. Obama has praised Ayers' writings and some of his opinions (before you go bezerk I'm talking about his opinions on juvinile justice and education). Obama has created this controversy by he claiming Ayers was just a guy who lives in his neigborhood. Remember, it's not the crime...it's the cover up that gets you.
October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
So what? Now all of a sudden a Palin supporter is on a quest for "truth"? When did "truth" get to be so important to you?
October 7, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Damn BLOCKQUOTES!!!! Sorry, everyone...
October 7, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
All Obama had to do was be honest about the relationship. You guys are quick to point out it's no big deal. Why did he lie about it? It reminds me of Clinton apologists after the "I did not have sex..." statement. "When asked what Clinton meant by "sexual reations" his press secretary said "we all know what that means" then when it started to fall apart it was "well even if he did so what?" He should've learned from his admissions about early drug and alchohol use that we don't care about the stuff you did (mostly) it's when you lie about it we get upset.
October 7, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Again...I find it amusing that you're concerned with "the lie". I must've missed that point in the speech Palin was giving. Maybe I couldn't hear it over the guy yelling "Kill him!!!".
I disagree that Obama "lied". He doesn't/didn't have a close relationship with Ayers. Ya'll are the ones running around lying about their ties.
Funny how you keep avoiding the Palin/AIP questions. Why is that?
October 7, 2008 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you guys want to play this guilt-by-association game, you're really going to have to explain why a few tangential contacts with a guy who did bad things when Obama was eight is worse than Sarah Palin's rather closer associations with the A.I.P. (whosse founder was murdered in the course of a deal to peddle a little C-4 and whose 's most famous quote is "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. ... And I won't be buried under their damn flag."
and McCain's associations with people linked to Nazis and death squads.
So help me out here. Obama, tenuously linked to people who did bad things in the 60s when he was eight. Palin, closely linked to, and, indeed, actively cozying up, to America-hating secessionist traitors as late as last year and McCain closely linked to a group that supported death squads at the time he was involved. How is it again that Obama's contacts are worse? It is because its okay to hobnob with traitors and killers as long as they're right-wing traitors and murderers? Is that the difference?
October 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep...you got me...my guy's linked to a group trying to overthrow a communist dictatorship...your guy's linked to a group trying to overthrow the US government...go ahead and run that commercial.
October 7, 2008 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fair enough. Palin's married to a secessionist and has courted them for years. As a veteran, I assume that disqualifies her in your eyes from holding any office. I know it does for me.
And the fact that McCain selected her in light of these facts, should, in your view, disqualify him as well.
What's that sound? Your argument/rationalization collapsing under the weight of your breathtaking intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy.
October 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
When someone's throwing out "he's not like us", please...Palin's construction of that sentence, whether inadvertent or not, imputes a lot to Obama: That he's "friends" with terrorists because of how he feels about America. She's asking these idiots to fill in the blanks and be angry.
You can disingenuously claim all sorts of reasonableness here, but you know the truth. And you can see what responses these lines are prompting, and you can see the tacit approval of those responses by McCain and Palin's silence.
That is ugly. It's cheap. And it's what Republicans are: race-baiting fear-mongers. Welcome to the dark side.
Excusing and rationalizing this kind of crap says nothing good about you.
October 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Listen, tis' the sound of crickets I hear!
October 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
The language of fear mongering. The language that are contained in the email boxes of millions of Americans making demonstrably false accusations about Senator Obama.
Don't act brand new.
October 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
"What language?'
Where have you been?
Palin: "Obama pals around with terrorists."
Someone in the crowd shouts "Kill him!"
Palin says nothing back.
McCain: "Who is Barak Obama?"
Someone in the crowd shouts "A terrorist?"
McCain says nothing back.
Someone in the room asks McCain, "How do we beat the bitch?"[referring to Hillary Clinton]
McCain says "heh heh"
Google the rest, there are tons of insults coming out of McCain/Palin, it's all the strategy they've got left.
October 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Translation: "he's not one of US", "He's different than you", "he's FOREIGN".
What the hell do you think she's talking about?
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
"This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America,"
Translation...Obama, like many liberals think America is what's wrong with the world, that's why he apologized for us when he went to Berlin. I, and many like me think America is the most generous nation in the world, we give more and do more to help others than any other country.
October 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama and many liberals do not think America is what is wrong with the world, but golly we do do things that make things worse, (or not do things that make things worse), along side of the generous things that we do do. The thing that is so annoying about conservatives is absolute need to see America as #1, the best in the world. Screw you Sweden. Piss off Canada. etc etc. because we're the best. When a country's wealth available is used to look at donations abroad, we aren't number one. Who is more generous, the person who has $1,000 and gives $100 to someone, or the one who has $100,000 and gives $1,000?
October 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
" Who is more generous, the person who has $1,000 and gives $100 to someone, or the one who has $100,000 and gives $1,000?"
LMAO! I can't believe you served that one up to me!
http://townhall.com/columnists/HankAdler/2008/09/12/bidenobama_%E2%80%93_charity__savings_%E2%80%93_failing_grade
October 7, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
The oxbow incident comes to mind, they hung the wrong person, only one person stood up to the madness. Yelling kill him is not acceptable in any situation, McCain and Palin would have us back in the Dark Ages.
October 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's what I think the media should do:
Equip every reporter and camera person (attending rallies of the Vendetta Twins) with a flack jacket and helmet. Make it known. Show the footage.
That would do more than words. More than anything. It would protect the press. And make it evident that chaos and anarchy were being incited at their vendetta events.
October 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is going too far and is just unacceptable.
October 7, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Double post. Sorry about that.
October 7, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barry Oilbama, who voted FOR the Bush Cheney Energy Bill, selects Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright as his pastor. Oilbama on convicted felon, and slumlord, Tony Rezko to raise money for his political campaigns and to help him buy a dream house. And Billy Ayers? Yep. Billy the terrorist gives Barack his first major job as head of the Chicago Annenberg Foundation and helps steer millions to groups with non-mainstream American goals. So, what else does sleazeball Oilbama do? Oilbama campaigned in Kenya for hos cousin the murderer Raila Odinga, the King of violence in Kenya, on our taxpayer dollars. Oilbama trashed the US national anthem while campaigning in Kenya, calling the US violent and racist. What a wonderful choice for President.
October 7, 2008 9:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
This groove is out of fashion; these beats are twenty years old.
October 7, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barry Oilbama, who voted FOR the Bush Cheney Energy Bill, selects Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright as his pastor. Oilbama on convicted felon, and slumlord, Tony Rezko to raise money for his political campaigns and to help him buy a dream house. And Billy Ayers? Yep. Billy the terrorist gives Barack his first major job as head of the Chicago Annenberg Foundation and helps steer millions to groups with non-mainstream American goals. So, what else does sleazeball Oilbama do? Oilbama campaigned in Kenya for hos cousin the murderer Raila Odinga, the King of violence in Kenya, on our taxpayer dollars. Oilbama trashed the US national anthem while campaigning in Kenya, calling the US violent and racist. What a wonderful choice for President.
October 7, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's President Oilbama, to you.
October 7, 2008 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
He beats his fists against the posts but still insists he sees six ghosts.
October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
October 7, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bill? I know those meds have unpleasant side effects, but if you keep going off of them, they're going to put you back into the hospital.
October 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
Protest zones.
Book bannings.
Refusals to speak with the press and hyper-controlled access.
Now assualt and soon battery of the press.
Jack-booted thuggery abounds.
October 7, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Triumph of the Will of Josef Sechs-Pack.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Funny how "Palin" is so close to "Stalin."
October 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or "pallin"
October 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh so proud to be a Palin.
October 7, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Video? Video? Oh please let there be video!
October 7, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, between Joe Klein's piece today in TIME (see link below) and some ass clown yelling "Kill Him!" when she attacked Obama at a rally, does it shock anyone that complete racists also proudly attend her rallies???
And, of course, their vile comments get nothing but cheers from the crowd and slight smiles from McCain and Palin at the podeum.
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/embarracuda.html
October 7, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Kill Him!" Haven't seen that report...at least it wasn't mentioned in what you linked to...
October 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here you go:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html
October 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
If I'm reading that right the "kill him" was directed at Ayers (not that that's a good thing, but the way y'all were talking I thought it was directed at Obama).
October 7, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah....this is MUCH better:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/crossing-the-li.html
October 7, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have a "NOBAMA" sticker with a slash through the "O" is that a bad thing too?
October 7, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I read that..." no surprise there...
October 7, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html
October 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
How's that outreach to the Black community goin' fer ya these days? Yup yup!
October 7, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
More evidence that Palin's handlers know she's a loose cannon:
http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingnews/2008/10/under-the-watch.html
October 7, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do they really want the MSM to stop covering their rallies?
Think about it.
October 7, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Without the MSM, they're shouting into a vacuum. If the MSM had an ounce of sense, they would have stopped covering McCain months ago. Perhaps it'll take a crowd to beat up a newscrew to get the point across to McCain he's stepped way over the line of human decency.
October 7, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, by the way...driving to work today in the Chicago suburbs, I noticed the asshole in the car ahead of me at a light had a bumper sticker that read "NO BARACKS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!"
No mention of McCain's approval on it, but it looked like a professionally made piece.
October 7, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Which is worse? Having tenuous connections to someone who incited violence 40 years ago, or actually inciting violence just yesterday, as Palin did?
October 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Via Daily Dish from a profile on Campbell Brown
...when you have Candidate A saying the sky is blue, and Candidate B saying it’s a cloudy day, I look outside and I see, well, it’s a cloudy day. I should be able to tell my viewers, ‘Candidate A is wrong, Candidate B is right.’ And not have to say, ‘Well, you decide.’ Then it would be like I’m an idiot. And I’d be treating the audience like idiots.
Where did she come from?
October 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know, but I hope she keeps it up. NYT did an interesting article on her the other day.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the questions asked by the media are so upsetting to her, how can she deal with Putin when he rears his head?
October 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's the question. Innit?
October 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Next Up: brownshirts, torches, swastikas, "Heil" salutes and burning crosses make their debut at McShame/Barbie rallies.
October 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
The GOP is the party of Hatred and Intolerance. This has been true for a long time. Someone should tell them that intolerance is not a virtue, and remind them that the constitution and American Revolution were built on Liberal Values.
October 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
But wait, I thought it was the party of Christian and family values.
October 7, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love your dry humor. Your on target wry posts.
October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right, and sweet potatoe pie an' a shut my mouth, we say grace, we say ma'am, etc., etc.
And sweatshops and hookers.
October 7, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm looking forward to tonight debate.
I hope Obama asks the crowd at the debate if they would rather talk about the economy and how we are going to work together to get out of this mess or would you rather get into a smear campaign like John McCain would rather do.
I'm sure the talk about the economy crowd would overwhelm the McCain smear crowd in cheers.
It would be a great way to start the night and set the mood for the evening.
October 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
just the Nazi wing. times are hard. economy is falling. the jews and blacks and immigrants and homosexuals have weakened America. the elitist liberal/terrorist bankers dirty fucking hippie vermin have brought down the country and when we take it back they can only blame themselves for the bloody consequences.
October 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
SFCWallace,
Here's the link you're looking for...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/mccain-does-nothing-as-cr_n_132366.html
October 7, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ultimately, McCain is responsible for this ugliness. Heck, he's got people yelling out "TERRORIST!" at his own rally. What a dishonorable fuck. I only wish that Rolling Stone piece came out 10 years ago. If it did, I would have never had any respect for this asshole. Now I feel duped and stupid for thinking that he actually had an ounce of honor in him.
To think that I was actually open to the idea of him being Kerry's veep in 2004. Almost as bad as having to live with the fact that I had to vote for a ticket that included Joe Lieberman.
October 7, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
TruthDig goes deep into the USS Forrestal incident McCain was involved in. Here's the interesting tidbits out of the second paragraph:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081007_investigating_john_mccains_tragedy_at_sea/
Investigating John McCain’s Tragedy at Sea
1) There are a number of conflicting accounts of the Forrestal accident, but here is the story as based on the strongest sources;
2) Lt. Cmdr. John McCain sat on the port side of the Forrestal in his A-4 Skyhawk going through preflight checks. To his right was Lt. Cmdr. Fred White, also in an A-4 Skyhawk attack aircraft;
3) A Zuni rocket on another airplane accidentally fired and flew across the flight deck, passing through White’s auxiliary fuel tank and falling into the ocean. Fuel spilled onto the deck from White’s craft and ignited;
4) McCain told his biographer, Robert Timberg, and repeats in his own book, “Faith of My Fathers,” that the rocket hit his own plane and knocked two bombs from it into the burning fuel as he scrambled out of his cockpit and raced to safety across the deck.
5) A camera on the deck recorded images showing that the Zuni rocket struck White’s plane. The Navy report later attributed the dropped bomb to White’s plane, although the film footage does not seem to establish this definitively. However, McCain has said many times that the Zuni rocket caused the bomb (two bombs in McCain’s version) to fall from his craft.
Some of those who were on the Forrestal and other persons familiar with the ordnance told me that because the rocket did not hit McCain’s craft, only actions by the pilot could have caused any bomb to fall from McCain’s Skyhawk.
Seems McCain isn't the hero he wants everyone to believe he is.
October 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love seeing a post from DEM BILLC. The angrier he gets.... the closer I know we are to electing Barack Obama as the next President of the United States.
Each lie-filled, innuendo tinged post is like a hug filled with love from Jesus.
*** happy sigh***
President Barack Obama. Happy Days Are Almost Here Again! The Skies Above Will Be Clear Again! So Let Us Sing A Song of Cheer Again. Happy Days Are Almost Here Again!
October 7, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
A possibly-naive question:
Granted, yesterday's shout of "Kill him!" at the Palin bacchanal could have been directed at Bill Ayres (assuming such declarations at a Presidential campaign rally could be tolerable when directed at anyone), but if they should continue, and if it should become clear in the next few weeks that these fruitcakes are in fact speaking darkly of Obama and/or Biden . . . is there anything the Secret Service can do to shut down this manifestly irresponsible nonsense before it gets out of hand; perhaps take McCain's or Palin's people aside and ask them not-too-nicely to dial it back a little before somebody gets hurt?
October 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I suspect if it happens again, there will be agents working the crowds to identify and isolate any individual whose conduct could be interpreted as inciteful that could cause bodily harm to others. If you've ever been to a political rally and near the center stage, amuse yourself with trying to identify the agents. They're everywhere and more of them than you may think.
October 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the worst happens, can Palin be indicted for conspiracy? Incitement? Easily. Betcha'd love to see her behind some doggone bars wearin' some goshawful prison stripes and splittin' rocks.
October 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the worst happens, can Palin be indicted for conspiracy? Incitement? Easily. Betcha'd love to see her behind some doggone bars wearin' some goshawful prison stripes and splittin' rocks.
October 7, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barbie the Prison Beeyatch.
October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, the comment was outrageous and unacceptable in the 21st century; however, let's keep our jets cool.
The Republicans would like nothing better than to change the subject to race rather than the economy.
Let's keep cool, direct our energies intelligently and there'll be a landslide in less than a month.
When met with such insults, repeat the mantra:
"It's the economy, stupid!"
"It's the economy, stupid!"
"It's the economy, stupid!"
"It's the economy, stupid!"
"It's the economy, stupid!"
October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good advice.
October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, please, PLEASE, let McCain call Obama "boy" during the debate.
October 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Because you know he's thinking it.
October 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
...is this where the "all Republicans are racist" stuff starts again?
October 7, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain and Palin need to hammer home the point that Oilbama, who voted FOR the Bush Cheney Big Oil Energy Bill, is a big time Scumbag. Oilbama selected Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright as his pastor. Oilbama had convicted felon Tony Rezko raise money for his political campaigns and to help him buy a dream house. Oilbama had Billy, the terrorist, Ayers give him his first major job as head of the Chicago Annenberg Foundation and helps steer millions to groups with non-mainstream American goals.
The American people need to know what a scumbag Oilbama and his Oilbamabots truly are.
Oilbamabots are the people who get there jollies off by listening to Oilbama media shills screaming that women are F*cking Wh*res, and trashing America.
October 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Be still, you hump.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
ah, dumbell, your anguish will be over soon.
October 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who farted?
October 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
It was more solid than a fart.
October 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh hell no! Keep mccain / palin front and center. They are their very own worst ememies! The very thing that's killed McCain / palin is the airtime. When people see how ignorant they really are, it's hard to ignore it. I wonder if palin will have a wardrobe malfunction at some point? "Oh, I'm sorry. My blouse opened exposing my breast and handgun."
October 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
OT: What the fuck is up with SurveyUSA's surveys? There new CA poll shows McCain with support from 17% of African-Americans. I thought the 13% in VA was crazy. This is just plain nuts. Not. Going. To. Happen.
October 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
SUSA's samples are usually in the 600 person range, which will usually give you a meaningful topline result, but not so much down in the crosstabs.
If the population of a state is ten percent black, that means sixty people in the sample should be black. If you only happen to get fifty people who say they're black on the line the night you take the poll, you have to weight them up. Seventeen percent of fifty is 8.5 (call it 9) people, each of whom now has a disproportionate affect on the outcome. Some of the eight them may be real black Republicans. One or two of the eight may be people gaming the system and screwing with the pollster's head for yucks--maybe a white Dittohead indulging in that impish Rushian sense of humor we've all enjoyed these last twenty months and a black CSI fan who was pissed off that he was interrupted while he was watching his favorite show. Maybe another pushed the wrong button and another may actually be paranoid that the "pollster" is really the local Republican Party looking for votes to suppress.
Small sample size aside, howewver, robopolls like SUSA are inherently more susceptable this kind of noise around the margins because people are responding by pushing a button so mistakes are more likely and they are also a bit more likely to lie a computer voice than to a real person.
October 7, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
"...maybe a white Dittohead indulging in that impish Rushian sense of humor we've all enjoyed these last twenty months ... Maybe another pushed the wrong button and another may actually be paranoid that the "pollster" is really the local Republican Party looking for votes to suppress."
How do you guys survive against such an evil establishment? Seriously, it must suck living everyday with such a fatalistic world view.
October 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's time to raise this question aloud: Is the McCain/Palin campaign trying to incite domestic terrorism?
October 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin or McCain cannot be busted for public incitement - supporters are invited in to cheer and do their thing. They can't control what these idiots shout out.
BUT...that is no excuse at all for these two clowns to not say a damn word in response when someone yells out "KILL HIM!" when they mention Obama's name! Palin didn't say jack shit when this happened and just paused, then continued her attack.
The spin of it all, though, is that they just say "Oh, we can't predict what will happen at our rallies." and they get away with it. We know better, but there are some who don't!
And like I said yesterday, hate is dangerous! If they let this shit go, then some out of his mind right wing nutjob will take that as an incentive to do something tragic. It's a very scary domino effect!
October 7, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
My ignorant aunt lives in a small Wisconsin town. She doesn't like McCain but wouldn't vote for Obama. "He's arrogant", code for uppity black. She and her friends think small-town-Palin would "Stick it to Washington and the media" with her small-towniness, and that people in small towns are cheering Palin on.
They are unclear of the concept of what the VP does. If they wanted their small town represented, they should elect representatives for that. The second most powerful job should not be used to "stick it" to anyone. The last 8 years have proved that.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Consider this, at the Democratic convention, two individuals were arrested with high powered riffles, high out of their minds, with the intent to kill Obama.
Imagine what kind of hatred these rally's will build up in people.
I guess I just don't understand how the extreme right wing feels the need to demonize people to the point of people fearing them and wanting them dead. It goes on non stop on talk radio and it is carrying through in these rallies. Someone is going to get hurt and by that time, it will be too late before they realize they have gone too far.
What a sad time in politics when it becomes like this.
October 7, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Abusing the media will only solidify McCain's existing support. The larger impact may be that the media will turn on him. Bush/Rove were always smart enough to understand they needed the media to help them spread their lies. It is getting to the point where the media is more likely to challenge McCain's lies than report them.
This also serves to reinforce McCain's image as hotheaded and unstable.
October 7, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's what I think the media should do:
Equip every reporter and camera person (attending rallies of the Vendetta Twins) with a flack jacket and helmet. Make it known. Show the footage.
That would do more than words. More than anything. It would protect the press. And make it evident that chaos and anarchy were being incited at mcShame Vendetta Events.
October 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why are we being manipulated and played by GOP's kitchen sink assault on character strategy? Why are we dictated by their discourse and game plan?
Cannot we play here victim game and accuse McCain-Palin of inciting hate crime leading to assassination plot? Why shouldn't Barack say this? Won't this stop them?
October 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think Obama and his campaign have proven they know what to do better than we do at this point.
October 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Amen Brother! The Obama camp has repeatedly proven that they know of what they do and are best served to ignore those of us who think we know what's best for them.
October 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
She wore a white sheet to the rally yesterday - what would we expect?
October 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
It did seem a little strange in October...
October 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Same thing today.
October 7, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
RACISM is their last hope of winning. Bill and Hillary tried the same thing and lost. It's John McCains turn now, he will also lose. I can predict he is going to accuse Obama of playing the race card in order to hide his own racism.
October 7, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
What a contrast - here they are trying to talk Obama's nonpartisan talk while walking a very divisive and nasty walk.
Obama is desperately trying to bring this country together to solve problems and McLame and Painful are doing every damn thing they can to divide us up again.
They are terrible people who hate America.
October 7, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
They are terrible people who hate America.
Co-sign. This is a travesty. And the American people are the losers here.
October 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tena, Palin is the Queen of wedge politics in Alaska. Inciting a riot is as natural to her as being verbally nasty when she knows no one will dress her down.
October 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I guess I didn't ever hear that about her from Alaska - but she's a religious right wackjob and they are all like that.
October 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh yeah!
She introduced abortion and religion into the political arena when she first run for mayor. She was christian and against abortion. Then ran a whisper campaign against the incumbent mayor that he was not legally married to his wife; she still used her maiden name. And that he was not a christian either. And when running for governor she was always pointing out errors other candidates records on issues even though she herself had no experience on the issue.
She definitely drove a wedge between candidates records her angelic record of no experience.
October 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin is so stupid, she thinks that encouraging racist talk and racial violence in her speeches will help her and her cohort win this election.
Somebody should point out that only racists think that kind of stuff is cool and they were not voting for Obama anyway. The rest of us are motivated to step up our efforts to GOTV and defeat them.
Personally, I'm at the point that grinding their political careers into the dust is the least we can do. Packing them off to obscurity forever is my goal.
October 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
If someone does strike out as a result of the tone set in one of her rallies, she will say that nothing in her speech urged anyone to take any specific physical actions towards others.
Sounds just like something out of the South before 1965, doesn't it?
October 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Gee, I don't recall the Sermon on the Mount inciting any riots. No christian is she.
October 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for that! I have never known a true Christian to either incite nor tolerate violence.
October 7, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe the MSM should give Palin the same coverage they give Biden, that way we would never have to see or hear this kind of bullshit and let hate dissipate.
October 7, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Know Nothing Movement resurrected.
October 7, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anarchy, Inc.
October 7, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
The politics of destruction. Next the McCain-Palin ticket will issue a 'Phatwa' on Obama and the media. I mean, are the fucking serious? that campaign has become unstable, looney and deranged.
October 7, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
CORRECTION: The politics of destruction. Next the McCain-Palin ticket will issue a 'Phatwa' on Obama and the media. I mean, are they fucking serious? that campaign has become unstable, looney and deranged.
October 7, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama doesn't let any negative comments go by without calling them out.
Often times when he praises McCain's service people boo and he calls that out as wrong...
Why can't McCain show some semblance of honor - oh I forgot he sold it to the devil....
Palin is so stupid that she thinks her snarky bullshit is productive....well Sarah...the IRS will be visiting you and Todd soon since you lied on your taxes on the per diems and travel expenses AND the Troopergate report will not be kind either.
Hopefully when you go back to AK on 11/5 they will recall you as Governor.
October 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
By December we'll be asking each other "remember Sarah Palin?"
To those thinking she's positioning herself for 2012, I have two words for you: KATHERINE HARRIS...
how's she doing these days?
October 7, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign - I've been saying the same thing while others are thinking she's running in 2012. LOL! No she isn't. You can't run for president without backing and lots of it and she ain't got it and she never will. Nobody wants to back her.
October 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
She's going to be the answer to a trivia question, a late-night punchline. That's all.
October 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just another Dame mcShame used. And abused.
October 7, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
SFC Wallace:
You strike me as a fundamentally reasonable person, just a bit doctrinaire, with all that liberal v. conservative stuff. I think you will find yourself pleasantly surprised by Obama's performance as president. He is a bright, sensible, reasonable person. Unfortunately, Bush has nearly destroyed the country and it's hard to see Obama -- or anyone else -- digging us out real quick.
October 7, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're nice but SCF is totally deluded and you shouldn't expect anything out of him that is actually reasonable.
October 7, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are wasting your time, SFC Wallace is a pure partisan.
October 7, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink