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Election Central Sunday Roundup

McCain's Brother Insults Northern Virginia
At a rally in the Northern Virginia swing area of Loudon County, John McCain's brother Joe McCain referred to the Dem strongholds of Alexandria and Arlington as "communist country." "This was Joe McCain's unsuccessful attempt at humor," said a McCain spokeswoman. "John McCain and Sarah Palin are committed to winning the support of voters in Northern Virginia and understand the region's importance to victory statewide."

Obama In North Carolina, Biden Off The Trail
Barack Obama is campaigning today in Asheville, North Carolina, with a rally scheduled to begin at 2 p.m. ET. Joe Biden does not have any public events, having cancelled his weekend campaign schedule due to a family medical emergency.

Palin Holds Rally In Deep-Red Nebraska
Sarah Palin has a rally today in Omaha, Nebraska, set to begin at 7:30 p.m. ET. It seems odd that Palin would have to go to rev up the party base in a state that is guaranteed to go their way -- but in this case, it's because Nebraska splits its electoral votes by Congressional district, and the Obama camp has been making a play for this area. John McCain is off the campaign trail, preparing for Tuesday's debate.

HuffPo: Palin's Latest Line Against Obama Is A Long-Discredited Smear
The Huffington Post points out this morning that Sarah Palin has taken up a smear against Barack Obama that was discredited a year ago: That he said U.S. troops in Afghanistan were only killing civilians. In fact, Obama was addressing a problem that the White House and Pentagon have recognized as a serious concern, and the need to put more troops in Afghanistan in order to avoid such an impression becoming more widespread among the people there.

Poll: Obama Takes Big Lead In Ohio
The new Columbus Dispatch poll gives Barack Obama a 49%-42% lead in Ohio, outside of the ±2% margin of error. If Obama were to pick up Ohio for the Dems, it would become virtually impossible for John McCain to put together an Electoral College majority.

Poll: It's A Tie In Colorado
A new Mason-Dixon poll of Colorado shows a tied race in this key swing state, with Obama and McCain at 44% each. Back in August, Obama had a 45%-42% lead, not significantly different from this new number.

Poll: Obama Way Ahead In Minnesota
The new Star Tribune poll gives Barack Obama a 55%-37% lead in Minnesota, a state that hasn't voted GOP since 1972 but has been increasingly close in recent elections. A SurveyUSA poll from just a few days ago gave McCain a 47%-46% lead, and a CNN poll from a few days ago put Obama ahead 54%-43%, further complicating the picture here.


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Biden had 2 rallies for today in Virginia. Evan Bayh is replacing him so those rallies will go ahead as planned which is great in my view. The more campaigning we have in Virginia the better.

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And aren't Republicans in Virginia selling those "If Obama wins, can we still call it the White House" buttons?

We'll call it Our House.

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I was wrong. I slandered the Republican party. But this:

A local newspaper columnist, in a spoof of Obama’s platform, wrote in one recent piece that the Democrat would hire the rapper Ludacris to paint the White House black (a reference to a pro-Obama song by Ludacris), and divert more foreign aid to Africa so "the Obama family there can skim enough to allow them to free their goats and live the American Dream." He joked that Obama would replace the 50 stars on the U.S. flag "with a star and crescent logo," an Islamic symbol, and that his policy on drugs would be to "raise taxes to pay for Obama's inner-city political base."

The columnist, Bobby May, is also treasurer of the Buchanan County Republican Party and was listed in a July news release as the county's representative on McCain's Virginia leadership team, though he said his column reflected his views alone, and he denied it was racist.

is pretty close.

(From LA Times story on the race, race, and Virginia)

There is some of what he writes that goes over my head: Places he would grant statehood to includes "Bugtussle." Huh? And the 2nd Amendment would only apply to "gangbangers, illegal aliens, Islamo-Fascist Terrorists, and Senator Jim Webb's aide." What's up with Webb's aide.

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Is bugtussle, a reference to negros being filthy?

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What's up with Webb's aide.

Um, some incident involving his aide, and a gun--I think he tried to bring a gun into the Senate? Forgot that he was carrying it? Something like that?

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Acamus,
I looked it up, looks like it isn't racial so much as a backwards thinking slur.

There is a BugTussle, OK, TN, and KY...Jed Clampett of the Beverly Hillbillies was said to be from BugTussle, Ky

and it seems

The community name connotes a backwoods community, much like "podunk"


Okay, I did a search and got the same results. But that just doesn't make any sense. Why would a Marxist, Black Liberation Theology, etc candidate give Bugtussle statehood. This guy is just whacked.

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Well, the thinking there would be because he is ignorant! Why else would Ludacris be painting the white house black and sharpton be appointed Sec of State...all of it is 'ignorant' black culture...get it?

If not...think trailer trash...the exact same article could be written about Palin

Sweet, Albert. PS, love your books. Just finished "The First Man" and I was hoping you could sign it for me.

Sure. The next time I'm in Boston, I'll give you a ring.

Too sweet my friend.

Acamus, you always give me great comfort.

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John McCain's brother Joe McCain referred to the Dem strongholds of Alexandria and Arlington as "communist country."

Say it ain't so, Joe!

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can we still call it the White House

Joe would warn us that it'll hafta be called the Pink House.

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Pink House or CrapShootCasino..maybe HighRollerDomain?

How many siblings does McCain have and why don't we hear more about his immediate family? What did his dad and grandad die from, how old were they? How come these are not well known facts? McCain always has his momma out there touting her age but everyone knows men die first, and she is a widower and didn't she also have a twin sister who died already?

The bigger issue though is why are folks focused on if McCain dies? He doesn't have to die for Palin to wind up in control. Has everyone forgotten the Al Haig, 'I'm in control' moment when Reagan was almost shot?

Or how about the 9/11 moment when they whisked GWBush after he put down the MyPetGoat book and it was Cheney in control in the bunkers?

Imagine how reassured we would all be knowing Sarah was running things in those same damn bunker warrooms?!!!

Obama needs an ad along these lines like the 3am ad that HRc hit him with.

This time it should be about Palin being CinC with McCain having a heart attack, like his daddy or either an national security issue where McCain is abroad and he is whisked away and Sarah is in charge.

Let's get brutal.

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Maybe sequestering Sarah was preparation for the bunker.

"Bunker Drill Baby" - just say NO!

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How many siblings does McCain have and why don't we hear more about his immediate family?

I'll see your Billy Carter and raise you a Joe McSame.

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I'll see your JoeMcSame and raise you a Roger Clinton along with that Third Bush brother we never hear about unless he is doing some international deal.

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D'oh! How could I have forgotten Roger Clinton?

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The Minnesota SurveyUSA poll that has McCain 47-46 also had Coleman beating Franken by 10 points. It's an outlier poll that can be safely ignored.

Except to note that the Independent candidate Dean Barkley is polling high double-digits in both SurveyUSA and Strib polls.

Overall in this economic environment, an independent candidate will tend to take votes from the Republican candidate.

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You gotta love northern New Mexico - it rains, the power goes out = from Albuquerque all the goddamn way across the state.


Was wondering where the hell you were!

I feel your pain. Ike left us without electricity here in Houston for an entire eleven days!

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Puts it in perspective - I shouldn't bitch.

My brother in law and his wife live in Conroe - they were going to come up to Dallas, but decided instead to buy a generator.

I would like to have some kind of back up in Dallas and here in Taos--- solar panels would be nice - we have flat roofs both places. We could maybe power a generator with solar - dunno.

But the way things are going, I'd like to have something to back up the grid cause it goes down with monotonous regularity any more.

Service in those lovely rain-deprived parts of the country break down with the slightest drizzle. Do however beware of gas generators and the horrible noise they produce lest your neighbors become your sworn enemies. I forgave my neighbors during the post-Ike blackout only because they have two babies.

McCain-Palin are tanking in the polls and she is in Nebraska and he is off the campaign trail. They are soooo done.

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How come McCain needs so many weekend breaks off The Trail...is he getting chemo or therapy for dementia while off on these weekends? Will he get weekends off as President?

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Botox? Or seeking the Fountain of Youth?

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lol lol...that botox is not working...his rage seethes through anyway...that DesMoines Register interview must have sent him straight to the Derm!

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You've given me hint:

They have to drain the rage on weekends. To keep him from melting down during the week. Huge, huge needles are needed. Quarts of the stuff are sucked out him on a weekly basis.

I was thinking age. But I had forgotten the rage. (thanks for reminding me)

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I wonder how many quarts Cindy is sucking down, because she is always right next to him on the campaign trail.

Why the heck is he unable to campaign alone?

I heard a pundit say today that because they are losing groung in so many red states simultaneously that Palin is campaigning without mcCain now...and that she draws crowds of 10K and McCain barely can muster a crowd of 500 folks when he is alone.

Imagine that?

I bet McCain hates knowing that 'lipstickwearing skirthugging winker ' at the bottom of his ticket ( who he wishes was under him) is drawing crowds bigger than him.

Wonder when he will corral Palin into having town hall meetings with him.

tee-hee

Your underlying question is a good one, though. Why the hell so much time off?

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And he still looks terribly worn out. In the Des Moines newspaper interview everybody made a fuss about he didn't seem so much enraged as just completely exhausted and sick of people asking questions. I think even with weekends off the campaign is just too much for him.

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I don't think it's that he needs Cindy. I think she is keeping an eye on him. Not sure the reason. Maybe several reasons.

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Palin Holds Rally In Deep-Red Nebraska

Heh.  The way NE divides up its EVs makes Omaha a battleground state!

Sean Quinn writes over at 538...

[Obama's State Director John] Berge told us that we'd know if the Nebraska 2d congressional district internals had the McCain camp worried if we started seeing Republican surrogates in the area.

What, them worry?  You betcha!

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Nice catch, jzap - o very nice indeed!

Wish I knew what has prompted that visit to Texas.

$$$?

"Wish I knew what has prompted that visit to Texas."

The Republicans' new strategy of blaming Hispanics for the economic meltdown.

They don't poll Texas nearly enough. I'm aching to see what fallout there has been from the last two weeks of finger-pointing. I can picture Sarah Palin boosting morale among the fundies there, but I can't see McCain getting the Hispanic vote in Bush-like numbers. At least, not anymore.

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Omaha will go for Obama but that really only matters if the Electoral College vote is otherwise tied. Sure, they are worried about Omaha but quite frankly, it should be way down on their list of worries if Obama is winning in Ohio.

We are going to win Ohio.

Book it!

Florida too.

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He's way ahead there-

And Virginia.

Cricket! You're back!

AdAb my sweet, I've missed you too. ;-)

See you all next Sunday. Same place. ;-)

*fist-Bump*


Viva la Ch

*Viva la Change.

The silly software.

Oh, Ohio better give him a win.

Being a Michigander, I have some bias. But we cursed Ohio the day after the 2004 election. You know what we said? "WORSE THAN INDIANA!!" I apologize, but we were pissed.

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We were more than pissed we were Wolverines and we hate that BuckEye State!!

Go Blue.

The GOP in Virgina is freaking out. They think McCain is on the verge of losing the state.
www.politico.com

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Ok, I guess losing power for 6 hours was worth reading that -

here is the link, sorry about that.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14285.html

That Warner has a +20 over Gilmore I think can definitely have the reverse coattails for Obama. VA is looking very very good.

There is no fucking way anyone in their right minds would vote for Gilmore. Not with our budget deficit. That man is such a moron.

I can't see how the Military vote will go to McCain especially with Palin. Virginia is one state where Obama should maybe attack Palin rather than ignoring her.

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That depends on what you mean by military. The brass are Repug, pretty thoroughly, but the enlisted personnel are very heavily Obama.

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Here's a thought about VA. Webb is former Navy. So is mcShame. But something tells me that the Naval folk have more respect for Webb and less for mcNasty. I'm betting the Navy will swing for Honor and not for Hizzoner, the anti-hero. Can't say for sure. But that's my best guess.

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I have the sense that McCain is not highly regarded amongst the navy brass leaders. He is a complete disgrace to the institution and it's prestige. He is an example of what a navy grad should not be when it comes to honor, integrity and love of the country.

Truth be told, naval leadership is probably quaking in their boots at the very thought of this asshole becoming their CinC...he has no regard for authority, tradition or history..he is a MAVERICK and that is a nightmare when it comes discipline, stategic goals and effective leadership.

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Nailed it!

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Read the Rolling Stone article - I don't see how the Navy can stand that little shit.

On top of everything else, and there's a whole lot of everything else, he's a coward. Abject.


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Yeah, he takes "exception" when cornered. And the Soul Mate is all for "exceptionalism." Two peas in a pod.

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...Minnesota, a state that hasn't voted GOP since 1972 but has been increasingly close in recent elections.

Really? Gore won Minnesota by 5,000 votes in 2000. Kerry won it by 100,000 in 2004. Democrats gained a U.S. House seat and won handily an open Senate seat in Minnesota in 2006, increased their number in the state House and Senate in each of the last two elections, and are now in control of both. I guess it's increasingly close in recent elections if you ignore the last 8 years.

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LOL!

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Reread that, chimpeach - Minn hasn't voted GOP since 1972 -

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But I agree about not close.

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But I agree about not close.

Yeah, that's what I was referring to.

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I know. I need to get in my groove before I start commenting - I was fighting falling asleep again because the power was out and it's cold here and it was grey and I was wrapped up in a blanket reading when it came back on.

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Tina Fey did another great job on Palin last night. I just wish they'd treated Joe a bit differently - it was a pretty bad impression.

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One thing I've noticed locally in MN is that our candidate for the state legislature has the word "Democrat" on his lawns signs this year. It's been awhile since Democrats have been willing to come out of the closet even in Minnesota.

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You know what's funny? The Repugs quit identifying themselves as Repugs in Dallas County, Texas in '06.

You could not find the word Republican on their signs, their ads, their literature - no where.


Repubilican - the new four letter word.

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I think the repubs should rename themselves.

We own "can" - so they have to let go of it. That leaves republi.... that's it!

Singular is republi. Plural, republi also.

The republi party.

Like it.

McCain, the Replubi Nominee.

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My neighbor has a McCain sign in his yard but he's moved it up the yard closer to house.

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In our neighborhood they seem to have put their mccain signs right out close to road... as if to put them "in your face." I think it's just bluff and bluster. Here's why:

Many more Obama supporters. Obama signs are in very short supply. But Obama volunteers are legion! In a mccain yard, there are often 2 signs. This tells me it's easy to get one of their signs... they're giving them away, 2+ to a family. Waste of money, I'd say. Whereas the Obama folks want you to "work" for their signs and pay $$$ for them. Very lean and mean Obama campaign. Many creative home-made Obama signs.

I had the misfortune to stumble upon a Cornyn TV ad. It decried partisan bickering and made it look like he was some sort of independent. No "Republican" anywhere in the ad. Ugh.

"Communists in NoVA" Sen. McCarthy would be proud. C'mon, Joe, get with it-the mantra is 'islamofacists'. Stop fighting the cold war...

How many are harboring terrorists, or palling around with them, as we speak. It sends shivers up my spine just thinking about this threat to our national security.

Yeah, my sister and her husband are surrounded by commies in Alexandria. Shoot, she lives in Alexandria but works as Undersecretary of Education-they've infiltrated the Dept. of Education! Horrors!

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Have you read the Rolling Stone article?

Sweet Jesus - that was a nightmare read. He's worse than Commander CooCoo Bananas - he really is! Cmmdr Coocoo was actually a better pilot and from what we know - which ain't much - CooCoo didn't pulls strings anything like McLame did his entire career -

No, haven't had a chance yet...

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You need to read it - everyone does.

Talk an eye opener - holy shit!!!!!!!!!

He's nothing like he's portrayed himself.

Send that link around to everyone you know. I have.

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Yeah I will. You were saying that last night and you're right.

In addition, let's paste the link to everywhere and let's send it to bloggers and columnists with large readership. The article should get wider attention.

I just read it. Brutal.

And boy does he hate woman. NOW I understand why he chose Palin.

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Does he ever.

And Daddy Issues - 5000 times worse than Cmmdr Coocoo.

Probably one of the main reasons that the qualified GOP women told him to take a hike.

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Yeah, McCain believes the only purpose women have in life is as sperm receptacles.

He is a first class prick and it is not just women he hates, he is a dyck to men as well.

The man has a serious inferiority complex due to being a runt who can't measure up, intellectually nor physically when it comes to be a man. McCain simply could not run with the big dogs, he could not compete. The only reason he was let off the porch was because of being legacy. But he is a complete asshole and that Rolling Stone article made that very clear.

He is simply inhumane and would not value or honor tradition, family, home, nor country...it is all about him.

Stuck in the id phase of 'me, me, me' personified by the mentality of a two year old.

Guess those ice water bathtub dunks stunted his development, his rage turned inward and tormented his undeveloped brain which ceased to evolve.

ForEVER two years old...right down to ratting in Hanoi, just like a toddler and telling who his daddy was in hopes it would keep his ass alive.

mcCain is uncertified CRAZY.

His Naval psychological records have to be replete with 'unfit to lead'

The mystery to me after reading that article is why folks like Joe Biden call McCain a "good friend"...He sounds like he is now and has always been a complete jerk, if not a sociopathic monster.

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Me too! I kept thinking the same damn thing - now I think they're lying - they really don't like him.

I don't know -

It makes me reassess Gary Hart that's for sure.

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I had the same thought when I saw Hart was in his wedding! I was like um, umm, ummmmm..well you live and you learn ..all these associations these folks have, that are not publically known except for it you run in 'their circles'.

I don't think that's right about the no strings. I believe he got his Texas no-show duty through the family.

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Yes he did - but you need to read the article. McLame pulled strings up to and including telling the ground control folks at McCain field who had him circling that if they didn't let him land he'd take his field and go home.

He did this: to get in the Academy, to keep from being kicked out of the Academy, he pulled those Admiral strings all the way to the Hanoi Hilton, where he himself told the North Vietnamese that he was the son of an admiral cause he knew that would mean better treatment. And he got it.

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They're especially active in Arlington Cemetery, so I hear.

LOL! Very nice!

Another thing I noticed about the two campaigns recently - McCain is prepping for the debate in Arizona (in some resprt no less) and when Palin went to "Debate Camp" it was in McCain's Sedona compound in Arizona. When Obama has been prepping, for the first debate he was in Florida, and for Tuesday's debate he's in NC. Now folks might not think that is a big deal, and it isn't however Obama in Fla and NC get a fair amount of positive local press, and folks like the idea that a Presidential Candidate is spending 2-3 days in their State. Furthermore when the Obama campaign was looking for a person to play Palin in a mock debate with Joe Biden, they didn't choose McCaskill, Sebelius or Napolitano but Jennifer Granholm from Michigan, and that got a fair amount of coverage in Michigan, showing the respect the Obama/Biden Campaign had for Granholm and the positive relationship that exists and the underlying message that this relationship could help Michigan should Obama get elected.

Obama is forging "local" connections in three battle ground states, whereas McCain holes up in Arizona.

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McLame knows.

He has to.

And you have to love the way Barack Obama campaigns -

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Obama is doing an excellent job of making use of the local press and state media. Last night, he "crashed" a Democratic Party function, which wound up getting a lot more attention than it would have, had he not done that.

Best line from that function came from Governor Easley, who said " "Barack" is Hawaiin for "Bubba" " and got a big laugh. Love it.

Excellent points, jonze. Can we state at this point that Obama maybe just likes and respects people a bit more than McCain?

I've seen a couple of people from NC in message boards talking about how they're "proud" that Obama is doing his pre-debate prep in their state. I think you have an excellent point about one of the differences between these two candidates.

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There's no traffic here this morning and the server is not responding?

WTF?

Thats what bothers me the most about this site. They need to do something about their servers. Josh promised that the server issues would have been dealt with by now.

It's running without a hitch on my end today, however last night after I clicked to send a screen popped up saying "This post will be reviewed by an administrator before being posted" or something to that effect.

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That's happened to a couple of people - I don't have a clue -

It's Cheney keeping busy on his day off.

OT, but I wanted to share this anecdote and I'm not trying to be a concern troll...

Last nite at a party, the husband of an old college friend who works in the oil fields here in Texas told us that there are folks who are seriously unhappy about the prospect of an African American president. In other words, hatred, racism and bigotry are alive and well in the good ol' US of A.

Not news I know but it is truly sobering to hear it in such stark terms and that the mere possiblility that this man runs the risk of *losing his job* over voting for Obama is beyond words...

Obama has ice running through his veins...

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Sure there are - that's no suprise, LBJ's brain. Didn't we always know this?

I hope they stay home. If they don't like McLame and Palin scares them - they both are fucking scary - I'm hoping racists just stay home or write in Ron Paul.

Some say I'm the master of the obvious...

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No no - not at all - I get your honest and sincere concern - I do.

There are parts of Texas I know very well will not vote for him - Deep East Texas is full of white people who will not. It's got a large AA population and I'm hoping very much that they do.

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I'd bet that the racists are already part of the 38% for mcShame who will not change their minds.

Racists are not undecided. And to my mind the undecideds have had years and years to form an attachment to mcSame. I'm betting they'll mostly break for Obama.

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Exactly.

But no one really ever looked at whether or not those people who will not vote for Obama because of race would have not voted for Hillary because of sex.

There's no way now to know how many men would have refused - but you know very well there are plenty of men in this country who would not hand this country to a woman to run.

In some ways, I think it will be like having gay marriage. The wingnuts screamed how it would tear apart the social fabric of country. Yet it happened and life went on as it always had. A few months after Obama takes office, and life will be the same as it always was (how did I get here?), people like this guy will begin to see the world and those of other races differently.

So right!

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As Sully put it in his comment on the head of the Steel Workers' speech - we may do something very profound indeed in America in November.

It looks very much like we're going to. And it is very profound. This is going to have reverberations forever, really.

I have never been more proud to be an American.

I just don't think I can quite grasp how powerful inauguration day will be when Obama puts his hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the CONSTITUTION of this country.

An image I hold on to with some ferocity, I assure you.

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Not any more fiercely than I do, believe me.

:)

Sisters-in-Ferocity *fist-bump*

;-)

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Gives me the shivers! A thrilling thought.

From the late Mike Royko, on the election of the late Harold Washington as Mayor of Chicago:

The city isn't going to slide into the river. The sun will come up today and tomorrow, and your real estate values won't collapse...

He'll fire a police superintendent, hire a new one, and the earth won't shake under us.

He might hire some jerks. I haven't seen a mayor who hasn't...

If Washington is smart, which I think he is, he'll surround himself with the very best talents and minds available. And they're available...

Meanwhile, don't get hysterical. As I wrote four years ago, if we survived Bilandic, we'll survive Jany Byrne.

And if we survived Janie, we easily can survive Harold Washington.

Who knows, we might even wind up liking him.

Royko was right. And if he was writing today, he'd be writing something very similar about Barack Obama.

Miss ya, Mike. Hope you have a good seat for this one...

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The trouble with figuring of almost any state including Minnesota is SurveyUSA.

The coefficient of correlation of one of their polls favoring the Republicans in any race they poll when compared against any other poling agency is almost 1.0000 . . .

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The coefficient of

you lost me right there.

;)

Hey, I had _no_ idea that I am a resident of "communist country." Wow!!!!! ;-)


Laughing out loud.

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There is one Obama commercial in which I didn't like but ended being the best one out there and it is the one in which Obama talks directly into the camera about his economic plan. Ed Rendell and others have said that the commercial has made a difference in their state.

The reason why this commercial is more powerful than I thought it would be is that people get a sense of who Obama is. He isn't a scary black guy who pals around with terrorists but Obama looks during those 30 seconds to a minute presidential and nice. It is a very calming commercial and helps to get rid of people's fears about Obama.

The the AP was able in under 24 hours to find and be concerned about the racial subtext in Palin's "pallin' with terrorists" and "not seeing the world as she and her dimwitted following do" remarks of yesterday, is a good sign. It used to take 10 days of steady pounding from blogs to get the MSMers to understand something like that. This bodes well for how they will referee the next 30 days, and the timing is especially good going into Tuesday's debate.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Palins-Words-Analysis.html

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Yes. What's gotten into the AP these days? Was Ron Fournier suspended?

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Nope - Sarah Palin got into the press and the bosses of the press.

She has managed to scare the everloving shit out of anyone with half a brain.

Plus, McLame didn't just bite - he tore off the hand that fed him all those years. What a fool the man is.

He has 0 judgment - read that article. O my god!

And they're right. "Terrorists" in today's day in age means al Qaeda for all intents and purposes, not to mention she pluralized it, and as far as I know the claim is for the singular Ayers.

If she would have said Obama pals around with one anti-Vietnam War extremist well that wouldn't have had the connotation the campaign wanted (if you're going to line, might as well make it a big one). Of course the campaign will play innocent "What? Us? Never."

PPP is teasing a poll they did that apparently is going to show Obama up outside the margin of error in Ohio. Should be out Tuesday. Woohoo!

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But is he over 50 in that poll?


(Sorry Tyler. I couldn't resist. ;>) )

I've read the same thing elsewhere.
I have always felt Ohio was ripe to go with Obama, especially since the Dems took control of the state offices (not the Repub-gerrymanded legislature)in 2006.
This, in spite of the racism that still exists in parts of southern Ohio.

Not all racists are racist in the same way. There are the die-hards, but many are more a result of an unexamined cultural upbringing. West Virginia was a solid red for McCain. Now it's leaning McCain, with 440 miners going on strike when the owners let pro-McCain people onto the worksite to shoot an anti-Obama video. There is hope even for southern Ohio.

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And don't forget that great radio ad by the Blue Grass musician.

And as the Union leader Richard Turmka says, as
posted last by sweetpd earlier today,

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/confronting-rac.html

the woman he confronts regarding voting for Obama or Clinton, when she finally admits that she won't vote for Obama because he is black (after giving a bunch of lame excuses), she bows her head, and we all know that is because deep down she knows that it is morally wrong. And as each day passes, that knowledge in so many of these people will erode their resistance to vote for Obama when they know that as, Turmka says, he is only candidate that will look after them, their jobs, their health care, etc.

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I think about that all the time

And I do believe that we are a more decent people in general than the GOP ever has given us credit for or ever believed we are - when they thought about us, which is only during campaigns, basically.

I hope very much that we get a whole bunch of surprises like those miners gave us when we get up on the day after the election.

Check out Obama's surprise visit @ Vance/Aycock fundraiser Dinner, Asheville, NC last night. He rocked the house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3kawfKSqTo&eurl=http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/

Yes, he totally rocked the house.

Thanks to VA, NC, and FL I think we'll know immediately he won as soon as the polls close on the west coast.

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Great speech.

Obama has benefitted tremendously from having Biden on the ticket. He has learned how to talk to the folks who have been the least likely to vote for him since he first became a politician. I am pleased that Barack is a such a great individual with not just the heart but the mind to comprehend how to evolve and deliver a message to Americans who were most skeptical of him: the working class.

Obama is going to be a tremendous leader. Can't wait.

Thank you to Joe Biden for all the support and guidance he has provided to Obama and thanks to God for giving Obama the wisdom and judgment to know when to lead and when to follow.

What a dynamic duo they are going to be!!

Nice. He's cooking with fire. He's more relaxed and by election eve he will be rocking full on!

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John Sidney McClain has managed to scare me 50 times worse than Bush-Cheney have.

And McLame isn't even in power. And he cannot ever be.

Not ever.

It's his hatred of women. Jaw dropping.

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Jeez, that's the least of it almost for me - it's mutual, so fuck him on that.

No - it's his complete - I mean his utter lack of any judgment, any self-awareness, any sense of responsibility to anyone but John Sidney McCain.

It's terrifying - he is literally terrifying to me -

Yes. Sociopathic. The gleam in his eyes in some of the photos Josh puts up on the Frontblog reveals this hunger. I wonder what it is a product of.

I don't understand why it's a tie in Colorado.

What's up with the people who want to vote for Mavericky?

What can possibly be gained by not only a third Bush term, but by electing a person into the White House who is even worse than Bush?

CO is surprising.

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It's the front range - it's Colorado Springs and the Air Force Academy and all the military and the religious right.

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Colorado just like Virginia and other states will be all about ground game.

He will in VA. I see Obama yard and car signs everywhere. Everywhere.


Tena, you've read that RollingStones article. He hates women. That would seem to agree with the CO Springs/AF Academy mindset.

"I enjoyed the off-duty life of a Navy flier more than I enjoyed the actual flying," McCain writes. "I drove a Corvette, dated a lot, spent all my free hours at bars and beach parties." McCain chased a lot of tail. He hit the dog track. Developed a taste for poker and dice. He picked up models when he could, screwed a stripper when he couldn't.

Has not changed much, given some of the looks he obviously cast in Palin's direction.

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Honey, that's what I'm basing my comments on.

I read it last night - I've been telling eveyone else on the thread to read it.

We're on the same page - I just am not that upset with his misogyny, though it's godawful and very disturbing.

People were calling him "McNasty" even back then. Made me laugh

I love the way that article is written, with phrases like "failed upwards" and "rebelled into mediocrity." ;-) Heeeee.

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Did you see him at the town halls after the Biden-Palin debate where he was asking the crowd "How 'bout my vice president?", and "Did she do a great job or what?" or words to that effect, and after each question, he kinda, can't really describe it, snorted, or some cross between a snort and a bleat...I'll see if I can find a link to video of it. It was bizarre.

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Yes. I thought that was the most flagrant 'pussypandering' from him. Like he was saying ..'lookatmypussyain'tshegreat'

UGH...McCain is the worst! He has only one use for females and it is blatant.

HEEGH? HEEGH? HEEEEGH?!?

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Not snorting. Not bleating. "Ehhhhh?"

Still bizarre.

Here's the link:

John McCain gets "gutteral" over Palin

The Uncle all the kids stay clear of during the holidays.

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A cross between the uncle everyone avoids and Gilbert Gottfried.

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You really ought to post a warning label for those vids. Something like "Warning: you will probably be overcome with hysterical laughter after viewing this video. Put down any beverages immediately!"

OH.MY.GOD.

OMG. I'd never paid attention to that snorting before. So visible in that. ewwww.

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His misogyny just to me makes sense - it follows, given the total package. He hates everything, everyone and himself most of all.

He's a very sick man - and he was very sick before he was ever one of almost 700 POWs, and not a very honorable one to say the least.

McLame was telling the truth in his autobiography - he wants to be president - dictator, really - simply because he wants it.

He does not give one shit about America. Everything he has done has been for John McLame - everything.

He's weird as hell in his ad with his Mother - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2XTDHltNVU

He acts like a little boy who should be sitting on her lap.

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But he also seems like a different person from the cranky blinking angry person on the trail today. I guess 4 months of campaigning will do that to you.

He's angry because it's slipping away from him. Can't you just hear his internal monologue - why must I lose to this uppity &%$#@!!!. His attitude was so visible during the debate. Now his anger is palpable.

I like to imagine that the women brought him down -- Fiorina and Palin. It would serve him so right.

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Precisely.

McCain is seething with hostility, resentment at rage. All of which showed in the last debate when he refused to look at Obama. Not acknowledging a person's presence is a HUGE social snub. It conveys that person does not rise to the level of being acknowledged as a human being.

McCain was still doing well in the polls and holding onto the red states then...can you imagine what he is going to be like in the upcoming debate when he thinks he is in the fight of his life?

What did the Rolling Stone article tell us he does when backed into a corner and when he can't win based on individual achievement or merit?

He cheats!
He pulls rank!
He turns to the good ol boy network that allowed him to skate through his entire life as a failure.

How will this be displayed during the debate?


OOOOO boy ...this is going to be heated.

And get fucking ugly too. I'm counting on it. I'm also getting ready by lining up my movie therapy at NetFlix. Seriously, I'm not going to get depressed like I did when the SwiftShits went after Kerry. This time I'm going to protect myself. I'm sure Obama will fight back.

I'm expecting it to get very nasty.

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Yeah, but he seems very ill at ease to me.

And now I notice more and more that he has always been ill at ease.

That guy must be a seething mass of rage from the moment he wakes until the moment he falls asleep.

It's that word - dictator. I think he almost tastes it. He's one fucking, scary, bastard.

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Did you watch that interview with the Des Moines Register where he got just furious? He says early on in that interview he always wanted to be dictator = shades of Commander CooCoo Bananas.

Like we need another tinpot dictator after 8 years of two of them, counting Cheney.

My god - what is wrong with these people? That's fucking anti-American to the absolute max and I cannot believe they say that shit out loud - it's not funny. It has never been funny.

Yeah. This one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yOWj18rc3M&feature=related

Fucking scary. Said seriously too.

Hadn't thought of like that. Misogynist or misanthrope?

I suppose the difference is ultimately moot, but I'd bet in his heart he holds a special hatred of women.

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You look down on people you use.

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Cricket - I'll tell you one thing about that really intense misogyny of Lame's - I'll hand CooCoo Bananas props - he likes women. He at least acts like he does and I think he does.

McLame hates us. But he hates everyone!

You are right about Crazy George. He does like women. He likes his daughters too. Even when I most loathed him, he was not icky, in a skin crawling sort of way.

McCain just feels icky, on a whole other level than Crazy George.

And yes, he does hate every one. I see what you are saying. That is a basic point to his personality structure.

Good point, Tena.

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O thanks - yeah, I look at the two men, and I can't help but think that McLame is far more emotionally crippled than CooCoo and hell, I think CooCoo is totally coo coo.

That's how fucking scary McLame is.

Yes, and the idea someone whose action is driven solely by hate could possibly get elected is just simply horrifying.

And he doesn't know how to associate with women other than display barbie dolls on shelves as a prize.

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That article really did just scare me to death.

Coocoo is a fuck up - McLame is the most reckless and irresponsible and furious and cowardly son of a bitch I think I've ever read about.


Yeah, ya know -- I fuckin hate Coocoo like anyone, but at least it might be within the realm of imagination to have some beer with that moron (and have some silly, non-substance, no-brain-required chat). I think about it and by any stretch of imagination I can't believe anyone wants to have beer with McScum. I mean, really.

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It's going to get seriously ugly.

The McCain campaign's response to Obama's speech today:

Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house — because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama

PS. "True facts"? Is there such a thing as a false fact?

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Americans need to ask themselves if they've ever dumped their wife to live off a beer heiress with 7 houses.

Hah!! ;-)

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My friends, that's infidelity we can believe in!

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That fact that he's pushing as a true fact ain't a fact, so it's by way of being a false fact, if you will.

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You're making my head hurt.

You're making my students sound coherent and on point.

I don't know what you just said. Therefore, I guess I can expect it to be incorporated into Sarah Palin's talking points.

: )


LOL!

I had a few papers I graded this weekend which sounded like that. Whew.

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I'm right now in the middle of grading papers, which is why I'm dawdling around here. Avoidance activity, anyone?


LOL!. Yes!!! ;-)

Well, I really do have to go finish up.

Hey y'all, this was fun. Thanks for the nice company. Seriously, no one does company like y'all!

See you all next Sunday, same place. ;-)

Arrivederci.


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You don't know what I just said:'

He's lying.


LOL!!

There is hope that this garbage won't get the kind of play the swift boat group did in '04, or even McCain's celebrity ads did this summer. On a CNN news summary earlier today, there was one sentence about Palin's Ayres attack, followed simply by "A CNN Truth Squad check finds Palin's claim false."

There, now. That wasn't so hard, was it?


For lies repeated 100 times to become truths, they need contexts that make them fit people's already existing perceptions. I think when the Swift Boat Vet stuff was out in '04, there was indeed such a context (i.e., the view that Kerry is a flip-flopper). Now? I doubt it -- Obama was already vetted with regard to those old stories like Wright etc, so everything about the old stories will be taken as it is = desperate smear attacks. And I think in this economic turmoil, everything "liberal" Obama says will not be taken as "dangerous."

Good point. And the attacks also don't fit with Obama's calm, cool demeanor throughout the campaign, and especially the past couple of weeks during the financial crisis. He's clearly been the grown-up in the campaign, and it's hard to square that with the idea that he's really Scary! And Dangerous!

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Excellent point. The info will be received as way off base, thus further branding mcSame as out of touch with reality.

This Palin McCain ticket is screwing up my beer budget.
Every time I hear them on TV I end up donating to the Obama campaign.

Please, Please McCain, suspend your campaign...So I can have beer money!

By the way I have disconnected my TV!

LOL!

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Americans need to ask themselves if they remember G. Gordon Liddy, who spent 5 years in the federal pen for all kinds of crimes against America. He's one of McLame's closest friends.

And I certainly don't recall Liddy being repentant about any of his actions. Maybe it's time for people to start asking if McCain is willing to denounce Liddy's criminal behavior.

How about Singlaub?

Or Keating?

He cannot like us (women) if he cannot like himself. Good point. Thanks, Tena.

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de nada - don't be silly. :)

By the way, I missed that gorgeous blue gown, too. Glad to see you back.

Thanks. Good to see you too. Always. ;-)

I'm so busy during the week now that summer is over and I'm back working. Hard to come by at the end of the day. I just want to watch a movie and not worry about politics. Hard to do with that nearly stalled economy and the nearly stalled remedy.

I need this place for sanity. So I come by on weekends. And am always happy to see you and CT Voter and Camus and the others carrying on. Feels like returning to family. ;-)

McCain missed his calling playing a target in a Monty Python 'Spot the Looney' skit.

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Now I get why Bush can't stand McLame - Bush doesn't have the social controls on his reactions that most grownups have - he's another spoiled brat - but I would bet a lot of people who keep saying they love John McCain really don't.

It's Laura complaining about the druel on his lapels, everytime he gets together with John the Steer.

ABC reporting Palin is now scheduled to do a rally in North Carolina.

They're fucked!!!

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ROFLMAO!!!!

North Carolina. Well I'm damned sure that's not just fund raising.

You never know Tena. Texas may be next!!! :)

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You're not up on things - Palin did a campaign rally in Texas.

We all figure it was just $$$$ - but who knows?

when I worked on the HIll, I had the privelege to spend a weekend at a home formerly owned by Cole Porter. The people there were respectful and kind. I went on the trip as a guest of a Republilcan Aide, and appreciated the care they had for their heritage and their community.
I am happy to see that they are beginning to understand that we are all in the same boat.
I have contacted some friends from Ashville and they are moving from Mac to the Big O!

They mentioned Biden as a reason for shifting btw.

As each day go by, Biden seems like the best choice Obama could have made for VP.

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I was hoping he'd have that effect.

I bitched about Biden, but I was wrong. A woman would have made that the most radical ticket imaginable - guys who are racists are more often sexist than not and a lot of women are too. I mean - you ask them to hand the country to a black man and a woman - I don't think that would have worked.

Joe Biden is just what Obama needed and what's so fucking awesome is that while Biden obviously is a man of gravitas and well known - he doesn't overshadow the head of the ticket at all.

Palin has made McLame look as irrelevant as CooCoo looks these days.

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Yay!

I have such hopes for America and Americans this time around.

Obama drew 20,000+ today in NC. Obama will be in Indiana next week sometime.

Hoosiers turning blue.

Awesome news. My aunt lives in Terre Haute and she firmly believes Obama will take the city if not the state.

Is that the official count? Because the guy on MSNBC said "a few thousand" implying like 3 or 4,000.

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John McCain's brother Joe McCain referred to the Dem strongholds of Alexandria and Arlington as "communist country."

Since the Pentagon is located in Arlington, (as well as Arlington National Cemetery) shouldn't someone notify the DoD?

Isn't McCains main base in Arlington VA???

was...look at his VA votes!

VA was meant as Veterans.

Now that's a nice avatar!!!!!

They start mentioning about Keating.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6041101.html

Rep. Rahm Emanuel, a Chicago Democrat and Obama supporter, warned against McCain's strategy.

"If we are going to go down this road, you know, Barack Obama was eight years old, somehow responsible for Bill Ayers," he said. "At 58, John McCain was associating with Charles Keating."

"If we really want to talk who is associating with who, we will," Emanuel said. "The American people will lose in that transaction."

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Go Rahm! (I never thought I'd string those two words together - not after the war over the chairmanship of the party -)

Why Keating and not Liddy? Keating would be a better counter-punch to Rezko, and Liddy for Ayers.

Also I'm not sure I like mentioning Keating, Liddy etc. because it adds merit to the Ayers and Rezko attacks - it's like "Okay, I was a bad boy but so were you", rather than saying "You're being ridiculous and your attacks are desperate and false".

Rahm Emmanuel, John Kerry, Wasserman-Shultz and Claire McCaskill should be booked for surrogate duty the next month. Along with Biden and Obama, that should cover the Sunday "funnies" from here on out if they rotate though the shows.

Bah! this wasn't directed at you Tena, I was going to reply about Rahm being one of those folks you hate unless he is on your side but decided that was rather obvious and guess I forgot to unclick the "in reply" box.

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LOL


You know I love you Jonzie.

I think just mentioning Keating would be enough - no elabration necessary. We are all on edge about the economy to be reminded of McCain's assocation to another major Banking Failure that required a LARGE GOV'T. Bailout would be enough to freak people away from McCain. Liddy, while a federal criminal, is just old Nixon crap to most people. Keating reinforces the John McCain=economic idiot meme.

I agree -- mentioning it is enough. Just put it into the narrative. The point is to raise doubt over the authenticity and legitimacy of the right-nutjob attackers.

About freaking time! The more albatross' to hang around McSame's neck the better.

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Not that it really matters and the gap is still about 30 but what's up with all of the movement (away from Obama, towards McCain) on InTrade today?

Anticipation of Negativity...Racism etc.

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Think it has anything to do with the FEC challenge the GOP filed today re: Obama's fundraising? (the story Drudge is currently hyping) Seems like a lot of movement in the last couple of hours.

And do people really think the Ayers stuff is going to work? I understand the GOP using it - it's all they have. But the recent NYT story seems like the same story I read on Politico 8 months or so ago - ie, nothing new. And while the Corner folks are calling the NYT story a "whitewash", why don't they have any other details? I mean, they're journalists too, right? They couldn't find anything in over a year of hyping the "Ayers connection"?

Perhaps that's because, um, there's nothing there?

It's a distraction thing. They don't have any specific evidence to make the claim.

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Yeah, and he's at an 84.4% chance to win versus McLame's 15.6% chance at 538.

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Cindy is trying to buy the White House.

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Motivate the base. Think how Hillary hung on.