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Election Central Morning Roundup

Poll: Ayers Not A Legitimate Campaign Issue, Palin's Selection Bad For McCain
A new ABC News/Washington Post poll contains two particularly bad numbers for John McCain. First, 60% of likely voters said they do not think Bill Ayers is a legitimate campaign issue, an indication that his campaigns attacks against Barack Obama simply haven't been working. Second, a full majority of likely voters, at 52%, say the selection of Sarah Palin makes them less confident in John McCain's judgement, compared to only 38% who say it makes them more confident.

Obama In Florida Today, Alongside Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama is campaigning in Florida today, with a 12:40 p.m. ET rally in Tampa followed by a 6 p.m. ET rally in Orlando, the latter of which will feature a special guest: Hillary Clinton. Joe Biden does not have any public events today.

McCain In Missouri, Palin In Colorado, Cindy In Pennsylvania
John McCain is campaigning in Missouri today, with a rally at 11 a.m. ET today in St. Charles, a 2:25 p.m. ET rally in Columbia, and a 5:45 p.m. rally in Belton. Sarah Palin is campaigning in Colorado, with an 11 a.m. ET rally in Colorado Springs, a 3:15 p.m. ET rally in Loveland and a 9 p.m. ET rally in Grand Junction. Cindy McCain is swinging through Pennsylvania, a state where the poll data suggests John McCain doesn't have much of a shot at this point, with a 10 a.m. ET rally in Philadelphia and a 3:30 p.m. ET rally in Yardley.

Hillary Going On Big Campaign Swing For Obama
Hillary Clinton will be spending the week campaigning across the country for Barack Obama. Today she'll be touring Florida, with a 12 p.m. ET rally in Fort Lauderdale, a 2:30 p.m. ET rally in West Palm Beach, and finally the joint rally with Obama at 6 p.m. ET in Orlando.

Palin: Yelling "Kill Him" At Rallies Is Unacceptable -- But "Palling Around With Terrorists" Is Okay
Sarah Palin told David Brody that she has not heard anyone yelling "kill him" or other incitements of violence against Barack Obama at her rallies, from her position on stage. "If I ever were to hear that standing up there at the podium with the mic, I would call 'em out on that, and I would tell these people, no, that's unacceptable," Palin said. However, she did stand by her statements that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists."

Poll: Close Race In Montana
A new Research 2000 poll shows a close race for Montana's three electoral votes, with 49% for McCain, 45% for Obama, with a ±4.5% margin of error. A month ago, McCain had a 52%-39% lead.

Palin: We Shouldn't Experiment With Socialism
Sarah Palin derided Barack Obama's and Joe Biden's tax policies yesterday, telling a rally in New Mexico, "Friends, now is no time to experiment with socialism." Note: Sarah Palin is the governor of a state that practices collective ownership of oil and other natural resources, and equally distributes the state's cut of the revenues to every citizen.


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Morning, everyone!

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MORNING!!

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Seems kind of odd that the McCain camp keeps going back to Pennsylvania. They really can't seem to let that one go.

http://pufferfish.typepad.com/

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They have to keep up the appearance of being not entirely on the defense, and I think PA is of their best of the flipping a blue state long-shots.

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If they leave PA, it's going to really demoralize the Republican base of the party, and signify a potential huge electoral loss to Barack Hussein Obama :-)

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Here in the heart of Bucks County (Philly burb, just turned blue by the slightest of margins) there is virtually no McCain ground game. No McCain office, and the local GOP headquarters has lots of signs on the lawn, but no signs of life.

By contrast, the Obama HQ across the street is overflowing with volunteers coming and going, making cell phone calls inside and out, morning, noon and night.

If McCain pulled out, I doubt anyone would even notice!

PEACE

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Hillary Clinton will be spending the week campaigning across the country for Barack Obama.

During the primaries, I felt strongly that the type of campaign Hillary ran was beneath contempt. But now I have to admit two things: 1) McShame has made her primary campaign seem like a model of high-mindedness by comparison; and 2) She is going above and beyond the call in the amount of campaigning she is doing for Obama. I can't recall a defeated primary candidate doing this much for a nominee (though this may be reflection of a bad memory). But credit where credit is due.

[Palin] did stand by her statements that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists." . . . "Friends, now is no time to experiment with socialism."

Terrorists! Socialists! Muslims! Oh my!

Name calling: the last refuge of those with no ideas, no principles, no honor.

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McCain yesterday was saying his polling shows a McCain surge. The fact he's still going to PA doesn't surprise me a bit. I'm sure Schmidt is "sending" "emails" to John with "new polling info" showing a McCain "surge." I won't be surprised if, like Derick Zoolander, McCain is giving an acceptance speech on Nov. 4 even when he loses.

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Worms are surging for mcShame. There's a groundswell in his favor. They come out especially when it rains.

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I'd made a great mashup of McCain with Zoolander lips and eyebrows, but I don't know how to embed, so.... never mind.

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Go to your profile and in the "browse" function for avatar, look for yours on your computer...

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Heh. Well, at least that explains the color of McCain's yard signs - Blue Steel!

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I haven't seen much about this clip from the Fox News interview. McCain refers to Palin as a "cold political calculation" and "a direct counterpoint to the liberal feminist agenda for America." I guess he's completely given up on even Trying to sound reasonable.

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I missed the 1st part, but the 2nd part threw me off, in which he described Palin as "a direct counterpoint to the liberal feminist agenda for America." Good for us.

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Hillary would make a great president.
Will have to wait and see about McCain.
Obama is a future Jeopardy question.

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"He was the 44th President of the United States."

DING

"Who is Barack Obama, Alex?"

"Correct."

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LOL!

"Homonyms for $1,000, please"

"The GOP in 2008 and a river in Egypt"

"What is D'Nile?"

"That's correct"

PEACE

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You can't be sure, though. In-trade at right gives the Old Curmudgeon a 16.2% chance of winning, and I have *yet* to see an electoral map giving Obama 400 electoral votes, so maybe the distinguished poster has a point. You know?

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Oh, wow! I used to be an enthusiastic Obama supporter, but then I read your comment. It's like, like . . . becoming sighted after having been blind. The scales have fallen from my eyes. What could I have been thinking not to support McCain? Your obviously vast knowledge combined with your almost supernatural powers of pursuasion have forced me to see things in an entirely new light. Thank you so much for showing up out of nowhere to make this awe-inspiringly powerful comment. Indeed, this comment was so surpassingly perfect, that it would be a shame for you to detract from its impact by ever commenting again.

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Point to TCFKaNCSteve. Game to TCFKaNCSteve. Set to TCFKaNCSteve.

Service to TellMeMore....

(chirp, chirp)

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Has Obama specifically mentioned the down ticket democrats during his rallies much? I only see the clips and not the full events.

I trust that the geniuses who are Plouffe and Axelrod have this covered like everything else but I would like to be reassured that everything possible is being done by campaign central to get not only the White House but also 60 in the Senate and a better working majority in the House.

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Actually, e-mails were sent out to Obama supporters over the weekend, asking them to help out the down-ticket races.

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As I expected. The only question I have is where were these guys in 2000 and 2004??

This campaign really seems to be the perfect storm of candidate, message and campaign.

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Mickey Mouse was around in 2000 & 2004. The offensive linemen for the Cowboys were in high school and college respectively.

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Hey Sarge, could you let us know if those guys show-up and try to cast a ballot? TIA.

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If the St Louis Rally is any indication, every Democrat within range was on before Obama. They had a chance to get media coverage and rev up the crowd to vote for them and to vote for Obama.

One speaker was our Dem Secy of State who clearly went through the ins and outs of voting--only one example is that straight party voting has been eliminated and to vote for everyone with a D. Nixon, the Dem candidate for governor, urged folks to not let anyone in line leave the line but to encourage them to stay and vote.

The very last piece is Obama entering, shaking hands and waving, then onto the stand for the speech, and then last off the stands shaking hands and waving.

Is this enough for down ticket here in Missouri? Yes, IMHO, it is.

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Hillary is visiting Utah on Saturday... Utah !
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_10765682

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What?!?!?

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That's strange. Haven't seen any close polls out of Utah. And didn't Obama crush Clinton in Utah in the primary?

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Salt Lake City proper is all Obama signs, I've seen about 8 MCCain signs. We went to see W yesterday in a very LDS suburb at 11:45 AM. The theatre was almost full on a Sunday morning.

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Salt Lake City Tribune endorsed Obama.

PEACE

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Perry White would say,

GREAT CAESAR'S GHOST!

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OMG! :)

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Huh?!?! I'm speechless. Pleased, but speechless.

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That reminds me of Tulsa in August-tons of Obama, not many McCain. I don't know Tulsa's demographics and its likely that area was a "librul/commie/anti-Amercun" area. Still, was nice to see...

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When you read things like this, you start to think, maybe, uh, blowout even?

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Oh, I'd love it but that Tulsa anecdote was just that, I'm afraid...

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Utah is literally the reddest state in the Union. She must be going to help some downticket races there. Utah is redder than Idaho, Wyoming, and Nebraska combined.

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There's been no public polling there in ages. Any polling that's been done would be internals.

Hmmmmm.

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My favorite moment of the weekend, as listed in today's Philadelphia Inquirer (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/31267979.html) was Tucker Bounds claiming that Powell's endorsement proves that Obama's so weak that he needs endorsements... at the same time as McCain responds by saying "I have endorsements from Secretaries of State too!"

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However, she did stand by her statements that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists."

Apparently, David Brody didn't ask Gov. Palin whether Ayres was such a bad guy that he counted as multiple terrorists or instead that she never mastered the use of plurals in the English language.

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Ayers wife was a terrorist as well.

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So were the Contras, whom McCain made personal donations to. They routinely attacked civilian targets for years. Truly heinous. Seems much worse to me to have given money to an active terrorist group compared to a pretty innocuous connection decades after the fact.

But you of course will deny they were terrorists, giving us all yet another lesson in double standards.

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So are the AIP. Palin not only pals around with terrorists, she is married to one. She also likes to give political favors to terrorists and make herself available to them whenever necessary.

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I posted this on another (apparently dead) thread this morning but I thought Family Guy was so funny last night I have to re-post it here.

I said:

"Hey did anyone see Family Guy last night? 2 REALLY funny bits. Brian and Stewie go back in time to pre-WWII Warsaw and end up needing uranium. Stewie makes the comment "Hey Brian, the Germans are making weapons of mass destruction how come the United States doesn't invade them, kill all the Nazis and restore Democracy?" To which Brian says "Because there's no oil here?"

A bit later, they shanghai some Nazi soldiers and commandeer the uniforms. Stewie puts the jacket on and says "That's odd there seems to be something stuck on here" he turns the lapel over to reveal (wait for it) a McCain/Palin pin!

Bwahahaha!!!"

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That is p-r-i-c-e-l-e-s-s!

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So Sarah the Unready is going to the wingnuttiest parts of Colorado, there to guarantee a nice angry crowd whipped up into a nice froth. Note that she's not going to Denver, where she might be heckled, or even worse, ignored.

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Their only hope in CO at this point is to get the GOTV network for the wingnuts at full speed -- "must stop the islmo-socialist-terrorist from taking the oval office at all costs."

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Is that more important to them than risking water-theft by Arizona?

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With regards to this 'socialism' attack, I just want to know when is someone going to smash that line of attack with the facts?

When are they going to talk about how the government subsidizes farmers, housing and education...why aren't those folks eating at the trough for these 'government handouts' considering that 'welfare' or socialism?

How about why is it Ok for us to bailout banks, auto makers and airlines but all of a sudden when it comes time to 'distribute the wealth' to the actual folks PAYINg the taxes...it is 'socialism'?

Everyone at the top can be 'rescued' by the American taxpayer but when it comes time for the middle class to receive 'tax relief' both in the form of tax cuts and taxes used to prevent foreclosures for the suffering homeowneers...then it is socialim

It seems to me that as long as tax dollars from hard working Americans are used for corporate bailouts...it is still capitalism...but when those same tax dollars are used to shore up social security, medicare or student loans and mortgages then it is socialism?


Someone needs to be pushing back on this and pushing back HARD.

There is significant evidence that trickle down doesn't work when tax dollars are trickled UP so it is time for trickle up where tax dollars are trickled DOWN...as an ECONOMIC STIMULUS.

I am sick and tired of everyone but the middle class being able to receive a tax bailout and it still is called capitalism!!


We have been spreading the wealth to the corporations, banks and financial industry it is time to spread the wealth to the middle class.

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American has strong socialist *tendencies* and has for at least a century. I agree with you.

Barack could simply deride their attacks and make a sly connection to that common oil ownership and that nifty royalty check every Alaskan gets. Not deriding THAT, of course, but I'm sure he could work that in...

But, I've tried to "reason" with wingnuts and even moderate Repugs in the past and "socialism" is just one of those terms that sends them into paroxysms of irrational thought.

No wonder McLame/Flailin' are using it.

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Palin: We Shouldn't Experiment With Socialism

This woman takes "stupid" and turns it up to "11". Would someone do us a favor and ask her to please define "socialism"?

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I was going to say, "yeah, because the status quo is working soooooooooo well." If only people knew what socialism was instead of using it as something to bash people with.

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I bet Tina Fey could really go to town with that question.... um... in what respect? (for starters)

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Maybe we should stop experimenting with Democracy as well...

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And how about oil checks each year to Alaskans> That's not a kind of socialism?

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Ummmm, considering that each of those checks is paid for by consumers in the rest of the country, even Real America, I'd have to say "yes."

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And Government Ownership in the U.S. Banks?

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if only we could have an honest debate in this country about which economic policies work and which economic policies don't work and about about what the actual effects of various economic policies are... that we can't seem to have that conversation is the primary problem with the economy.

instead we have to go through this false dilemma between socialism (which we already have in this country and it works quite well) and free enterprise (which we will always have in this country because it too works quite well).

the truth is everyone who isn't completely batshit knows we have a mixed economy and that a mixed economy works perfectly well when managed properly.

mccain-palin and the rnc want voters to believe that warren buffet and colin powell are marxists. the news media ought to be lambasting this nonsense. bachman's tweety tirade is the red flag here (pardon the pun). take heed.

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It will take awhile to get a lot of people to see socialism as something other than communism-lite, with an emphasis on taking money from the working people and giving it to those who are not working.

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Way back in August (seems like 100 years ago), David Leonhardt wrote a front-page NYT Magazine article about "Obamanomics" that does a great job of explaining Obama's ideology and where it comes from. Obama is quoted as saying "My core economic theory is pragmatism ... figuring out what works." Leonhardt says "Depending on how you look at it, he is both more left-wing and more right-wing than many people realize." It's a fascinating read.

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Colin Powell's endorsement is once again dominating the headlines.

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She doesn't know what socialism is.

She's talking trash - she's too dumb to know what it is.

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Zactly. Maybe she's in favor of eliminating Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid? Yeah, then they'll win Florida for sure!

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The income tax is first last and always a wealth and resource redistribution scheme,,,, likewise social security, et al. As FDR jolly well knew, without same the red flag would have long ago been set to flying over the Capitol.

We have now socialized the financial industry for similar reality based reasons.

Next,,,,, the health care industry for similar reality based reasons.

FDR was called a traitor to his class for what he did,,,,,, when will the wingers call Barack a traitor to his class as well.

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Quite revealing that the Florida GOP has decided to save $2 million of their funds for the next election cycle rather than spend it now on McCain ads in the state (per Politico).

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WTF. Biden states that Obama presidency will mean nuclear confrontation:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html

Notice he didn't say "the next president" as if it were inevitable. He said Obama.

Great.

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Biden stated no such thing. If you're going to link to an article at least interpret it correctly.

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You've obviously mistaken this blog for Townhall.com or Hillaryis44.org or one of the other bastions of Nutdom where you can just make up crap about Obama and you'll be believed.

Although, I have to admit that there's something oddly familiar about your style. Are you one of the old TPM stupidity trolls with a new handle, or do you guys just have a standard manual you work from?

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Chicago’s Leading Citizens ‘Bear’ Witness for Ayers

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4110

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Re taxes, I think I'd first ask my local far right person: "So.... you think we should do away with the military?"

Then go on to local things. "So, what about the fire dept? You think the police should go too? No water and sewer either? How about roads? Schools and teachers too?"

I think we need to make the basic point that we're all in this together. And focus on the simple things: garbage collection, bridges, roads..

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Oh, TheraP...dontcha know all of those thangs would be beter served by for-profit private entities that are traded on Wall Str.....(Ooops, 'nother Right-wing talking point just shot down)

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The repubs are Pavlovian. Scared of words! They shrink from words. Back themselves into corners on account of words. Vote against their own interests due to word-anxiety.

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That was to someone upthread. oh, well...

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Word associations, subliminal messaging, psychological teasing-- these things are pretty much the sole purpose of political ad campaigns, Democratic no less than Republican. So what's the big deal? And by the way, "Pavlovian" does not equal "scared of words," as you inadvertently suggest. Pavlov's famous dog, you remember, was not responding to words but to the sound of a bell. And the bell induced a positive association in the canine's brain, not a negative one. The premise of modern mass advertising is that we all have our bells, or buttons, take your pick. That's the scary part of democracy: the extent to which our "decisions" can actually be made for us by manipulative others. Beware!

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Biden was speaking to the body politic as if we were adults. As for me and my house, such talk is welcomed and appreciated.

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Eric,
Ref: Hillary at "a 2:30 p.m. ET rally in West Palm Beach"
Where did you get this from?
Can any TPM reader confirm this for me?
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Obama has a rally in FL, tomorrow, too. It starts at 10:30 am, Palm Beach Community College, Lake Worth.
So, he'll be spending 2 days in FL, rallying early GOTV.

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On Tuesday, October 21, Gov. Bill Richardson will hold 2 “Early Vote for Change” rallies in Florida: Immokalee and a community gathering in Charlotte County. The following day, Wednesday, October 22, he will hold 2 more “Early Vote for Change” rallies in Tampa and Kissimmee.

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Did you all catch McCain's remark said now a few times about how "proud" he is of the bigots and hooligans that follow his campaign around raging and slandering?

This is not what the normally mean by the "sin of pride," but it seems pretty iniquitous from here.

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Yesterday might have well been one of the best days in the entire campaign. Time to ride that wave until the end of the week.

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Contemplating on the imminent defeat on Nov. 4, McCain said yesterday on Wallace, "If the world turns an unfortunate way on November 4th, don't feel sorry for John McCain and John McCain will be concentrating on not feeling sorry for himself. I have to go back and live in Arizona, be in the United States Senate representing them, [or, I might retire from politics and attend to my] wonderful family [though, my wife is a total clithead]."

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So nearly 40% Americans think Ayers is a legitimate issue and the choice of Palin makes them more confident in McCain's judgment? America is SO screwed.

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It's amazing that John McCain, the so called expert on the war on terrorism has talked in great detail about Bill Ayers a two bit terrorist want to be from 40 years ago and has almost completely ignored our real enemy OBL. Who is the biggest threat to our country an English professor at U of I or the guy responsible for 911

That speaks volume on who McCain really is. He is an expert on nothing and a coward that puts his own political aspirations above keeping us safe.

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From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/palin-further-strays-off-glacier.html

Monday, October 20, 2008
Palin Strays Further Off the Slowly Sliding Glacier

Palin further plans her future beyond the current campaign. As you could see on Saturday night, where she could barely restrain herself from objecting to the "pageant walk" segment (Watch carefully; Biography, "Sarah": Sarah was always a stubborn girl), she ultimately can't prevent herself from going her own way.

From WaPo:

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin last night criticized the automated calls the Republican National Committee and her own campaign have put out linking Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama to former Weather Underground member William Ayers, even though she did not call for a halt the controversial practice.

"If I called all the shots, and if I could wave a magic wand," Palin told her traveling press corps as she stood on the tarmac here, "I would be sitting at a kitchen table with more and more Americans, talking to them about our plan to get the economy back on track and winning the war and not having to rely on the old conventional ways of campaigning that includes those robocalls and includes spending so much money on the television ads that, I think, is kind of draining out there in terms of Americans' attention span."

"They get a bit irritated with just being inundated, and you're seeing a lot of that of course with the huge amounts of money that Barack Obama is able to spend on his ads and his robocalls also," she added, though she did not say if she had discussed her concerns with campaign officials.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/10/palin-further-strays-off-glacier.html

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I humbly request you not to post the entire Heat of the State pieces. I'd appreciate if you provide 2-line synopsis and a link, instead.

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Terrorists! Socialists! Muslims! Oh my!

Name calling: the last refuge of those with no ideas, no principles, no honor!

This truly says it all ..... the Repubs appear to be at the very bottom when it comes to honesty and respect .... sad, so very sad for America.

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goodle CES endorsed Obama yesterday and will be on the campaign trail tomorrow in Florida,,,

This is excellent news for Senator McWar

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Why is Biden doing fundraising junkets in California and Washington the same weekend as the campaign announces a $150M September haul? And now he takes a day off? The way Hillary is campaigning, maybe she's going to be Co-Vice President.

McCain's Campaign is still focusing on the "Alabama T" in Pennsylvania. They can't leave there, it's symbolic if nothing else.

I'm surprised McCain is going to Missouri without Palin given his crowds will be compared to Obama's 175000 people this past weekend.

McCain has $47M to start October, probably spend about half that so far this month, so has $23M for the final two weeks, whereas Bloomberg has Obama spending $35M per week at this stage.

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1.He has been working and campaigning very hard
2.The O camp STILL needs to raise money
3.You sound like you are getting complacent, that's not a good sign.

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Sarah Palin says "we shouldn't experiment with socialism".

Gov Palin needs a history lesson. The "experiment" was performed shortly after the 16 amendment was passed, and a progressive income tax was implemented. She seems to think that a progressive income tax is "socialism". She needs a lesson.

What Palin and McCain appear to want is a return to the era of the robber barons and 19th century capitalism.

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I predict they'll be repeating this. Name-calling is always a good deal with the really stupid low-information that their campaign has come to rely upon so extensively. It gives them something to latch onto.

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Eric -- excellent deadpan snark on Palin and socialism!

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