Election Central Morning Roundup
Tonight: The Final Debate
Barack Obama and John McCain will meet tonight for their final debate, held at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York. The debate begins at 9 p.m. ET, and will be moderated by Bob Schieffer. Both candidates are under a lot of pressure tonight, but much more so for McCain -- Obama needs to consolidate his lead, while McCain needs to overcome his serious deficit in the polls.
Michelle Obama In Indiana, Joe Biden In Ohio
Barack Obama is off the campaign trail for today, doing the final preparations for tonight's debate. Michelle Obama is campaigning on his behalf at a 12 p.m. ET rally in Fort Wayne, Indiana, before heading to Hempstead for the debate. Joe Biden is swinging through Ohio, with a 10:30 a.m. event in Athens, a 2 p.m. ET event in Lancaster, and a 6 p.m. ET event in Newark.
The Palins Campaigning In New Hampshire
John McCain is spending the day making final preparations for the debate, while Sarah and Todd Palin are campaigning in New Hampshire, where the polls have given Barack Obama the lead. Sarah Palin is holding an 11 a.m. rally in Dover, a 2 p.m. rally in Laconia, and a 7 p.m. ET rally in Salem. Alaska's First Dude Todd Palin is touring a factory in Berlin at 11:15 a.m. ET.
McCain Accidentally Stops By Premiere Of W
John McCain left his New York hotel last night and encountered something he probably didn't expect: The premiere of Oliver Stone's movie W, with the theater located right next to his motorcade. McCain quickly got in his car and sped away from there.
Hillary To Attend Debate
In an expression of support for Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton will be attending tonight's debate in her home state. Look for reporters to try to comments from her both before the debate and in the spin room afterwards.
Michelle Obama Hosting Chuck Hagel's Wife At Debate
In another public gesture that they are reaching out to moderate Republican voters, the Obama campaign announced that Michelle Obama will be bringing along a guest with her to tonight's debate: Lilibet Hagel, the wife of Republican U.S. Sen. Chuck Hagel. Sen. Hagel has taken many steps that have hinted at support for Obama -- most notably accompanying the Democratic candidate on his overseas trip a couple months ago -- but he himself has not made an official public endorsement.
Palin: Dems "Wearing Thin" In Talking About Bush
At a fundraiser last night in New York, Sarah Palin complained about the Democrats talking too much about George W. Bush. "Our opponents spend so much time pretending they are running against the current president. I think it's wearing pretty thin," said Palin. "The American people are really waking up and saying no, the status quo is not one of the boxes to check."
One of the few things that Palin has said that wholeheartedly agree with.
October 15, 2008 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
She truly appears to have no internal monitors, doesn't she? No internal feedback, no sense of how her intended message is received. Of course, I'm presuming that there is a coherent intended message, realizing that there often is not - thus, the blizzard of words.
She shares so much in common w/Bush - he's like a kindred spirit. She should look him up after her defeat on November 4. They'll probably hit it off and have grand old time.
October 15, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah Palin is wearing thin! Good grief, I can't wait for her to go back to AK!
October 15, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Please, Sarah Palin, tell me what else the American people are getting sick of...I can give you a hint if you want.
October 15, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
One of the things from the NYT poll I haven't seen brought up in the media is that Palin has a lower favorability rating than unfavorability. Biden on the other hand, as other polls have shown as well, has the best favorability of the four candidates.
October 15, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Speaking of which, Kos is tracking the candidates' fav/unfav too, and Palin's number is disastrous in that department.
October 15, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is the first major poll to back up the Kos poll, the rest usually had her at +4, +3 range. I have begun to hear a little bit out in the media that she a net negative for McCain, and the other reason besides the economy that Obama has opened such a wide lead. I'm just hoping that by the time this campaign is over, she will have such neg numbers that even if they adore her, the right wing will look elsewhere for their next superstar. I just want her to go away and stay away.
October 15, 2008 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wholeheartedly agree. I'm also hoping her political demise after the election (
October 15, 2008 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
For some unknown reason my comment is truncated. WTF?
October 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Tell me what else the American people are getting sick of..."
Voter fraud?
http://www.palestra.net/videos/play/17193
October 15, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Republican trickle down economics.
My venerable economics professor once stated that the trickle down model of wealth distribution compares favorable to the "oats through the horse" model of oats distribution: instead of waiting for oats to fall from the feedbag, the mice can now wait for the oats to trickle down through the horse and reappear at the tail end.
October 15, 2008 9:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love this analogy! I'm going to use it.
October 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually it is voter REGISTRATION fraud. There is a huge difference. And right now I haven't seen any polls that indicate the Americans as a whole consider this a huge issue. Maybe because it's not.
October 15, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
If you watched the video, it voter fraud, ineligible non-residents registering and casting votes for Obama in Ohio...but why worry, as long as it's for your guy right? Anything to win, right?
October 15, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
El Reeling.
October 15, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, you mean The Video. How about a link, the last time I looked there are a few videos around this election.
October 15, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
The "link" is in the original post...but here it is again:
http://www.palestra.net/videos/play/17193
October 15, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't say that these activists are doing the right thing, messing with the 30-day residence loophole. But this has nothing to do with ACORN and is no way tied to Obama and his campaign. It would help muddy the waters if you can mix in people's minds some college kids going over the line and the registrations issue that surrounds ACORN.
October 15, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't agree with what these college kids are doing. But this is not tied to ACORN, nor is it tied to Obama. It is one incident that completely different then the voter registration fraud issue that is making the news.
October 15, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I trust then that you were as equally pissed off in 2004 about Ohio? Ya' know, intellectual honesty and all that...
October 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. I was equally as pissed off at ACORN's attempts at voter fraud in 2004.
October 15, 2008 10:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ha. Nice try. You know what I'm referring to.
October 15, 2008 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Propaganda. Not one incident of registration fraud becoming voter fraud. All these claims get investigated and in every single incident there has not been one incident of voter fraud. Yet these bogus claims of hundreds of thousands of phony registrations only prove that the system of verifying the registrations is working.
The screams of voter fraud equate to claims that the sky is falling except it's always done by republicans and used as a justification to pass laws that actually do suppress the vote. Every election the claims are made and every election they are found to be unfounded. Voter fraud does not exist.
October 15, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Propaganda. Not one incident of registration fraud becoming voter fraud."
You obviously didn't watch the video.
http://www.palestra.net/videos/play/17193
October 15, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Josh Marshall in Talking Points Memo wrote yesterday:
"Remember the US Attorneys" about the firing scandal after the 2004 elections. Seems Republican partisans were claiming voter fraud. At first glance, though, their allegations were actually suggestive of voter registration fraud.
However, when the local US Attorneys were directed to look into the situation by the political office at the now-Republican White House, they found nothing of substance. Some allegations weren't even true, and those that were, were isolated "and not done with malice".
Those local US Attorneys were fired, evidently for not satisfying the Republican partisan complainants.
Read the story at TalkingPointsMemo.com
October 15, 2008 2:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrew Sullivan has a video on his front page featuring two Alaska women talking sanely about Palin. It's well worth the watch.
October 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah Palin is many things, but self-aware isn't one of them.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
October 15, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't wait for the day she will fade away forever.
October 15, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hope this experience is enough to keep her on the national stage indefinitely. After all, even the Titanic needed an anchor, and she's an excellent representative of the GOP establishment. Remember, if Barack and Joe win this deal, we need to stress that McCain was the problem... His plucky, folksy, flirty running mate did everything she could to get things moving in the (W)right direction... She should certainly be the front-runner for 2012.
October 15, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jon Stewart referred to Palin as "a dinner theatre version of Bush/Cheney". Even that is too kind.
PEACE
October 15, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
IF she says it enough times, she may actually believe it herself.
October 15, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rachel nailed it in her show a few days ago -- and I too think she is a pathological liar. She is that type that can look you straight in the eye, smile a shiny smile, and tell you a lie -- and that, even if confronted with clear evidence. I've seen that type personally in my life before (she was my boss!) -- huge ego, unsubstantiated ambition, inferiority complex deep, deep inside, and no qualm. Living in another world.
October 15, 2008 9:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Testing
October 15, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Testing
October 15, 2008 9:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
To see real videos of real women discussing their reactions to Sarah Palin & the misuse of gender issues in this year's presidential race, please take a look at the following blog:
www.speakoutonpalin.blogspot.com
October 15, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
New Poll Reveals Why 'Ayers Charge' Never Stuck
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3980
October 15, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Hillary is there maybe McCain can get Bush to attend . . .
October 15, 2008 9:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone else bored at the thought of another debate?
October 15, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not at all. McCain is going to whip Obama's you know what. I'm tuning in to find out what "you know what" is and how McCain plans to "whip it".
October 15, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Will they be playing Devo now at the end of a McCain rally.
October 15, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great. Now I'm going to be picturing McCain in a in a Devo hat all day long.
October 15, 2008 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are We Not Men?
October 15, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
1. Obama will be cool as a cucumber once again, which will play great next to angry old man.
2. We will see black belt level Barakate when McCain tries to attack with just the right levels of sternness, control with just the hint of steel.
October 15, 2008 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Cucumbers are like a hot steam pipe compared to Sen. Obama. Want to see how cool? Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZv39r5cYI0
That right there could have been a Dukakis moment.
October 15, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, why are you focusing on old news like the current president? You really need to direct your attention to more current topics like William Ayers.
Up is down! McCain is really the black candidate! Biden is "Nedib" backwards and that sounds kind of Muslim too, doesn't it? SURELY IF I EMPTY THE ENTIRE CLIP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SOMETHING WILL HIT THE GOSH DARN MOOSE
October 15, 2008 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Magazine. Empty the entire magazine. Clips are what you load with.
October 15, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I find it interesting that McCain and Palin are campaigning in states like NH that supposedly has a deep and abiding love for McCain; WV that has long been Republican; PA in which Obama has a solid lead. In other words, lots of wasted effort. But I guess they gotta do something for the remaining days of their (losing) effort ...
October 15, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain doesn't have the ground game to really take advantage of local events (registration, text messages etc.) so it doesn't really matter where they campaign as long as they are on the networks.
Their only hope is an October surprise.
October 15, 2008 9:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you put your finger on the seemingly irrational strategy: anything to catch the media's fickle attention. "They're campaigning in red states? How counterintuitive! Must be worth sending out a film crew to cover them to see if anything comes of it." And so, the ADD afflicted media have something else to plug into the empty time while McCain gets his face into the public conciousness for one more news cycle.
October 15, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Their only hope may be an October surprise, but we're running out of October. And if McCain does tonight what he's done at the two previous debates, it's all over.
By the way---when will the Secret Service start arresting racist moonbats at Palin rallys?
October 15, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Based on the most recent polls, West Virginia is moving to blue.
Here in PA, I've not been seeing McCain ads of late, but Obama is dominating the airwaves on network and cable. Not sure why PA is still considered a battleground as Obama's lead is double digits and growing.
PEACE
October 15, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin's comment is confusing. Does she mean that people are saying the status quo is not an issue they are concerned about?
I look forward to seeing how the good people of NH react to her...
I have to attend a PTA meeting tonight (stupid %&@$ community organizers...geeze) but I will be thinking good thoughts for Barack to stay calm and cool under McCain's attacks. I am sure he will do great and that he has ready answers for ACORN/Ayers stupidity.
October 15, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
Never been to NH, but from what I've heard of the people there, I can't believe she is that popular.
October 15, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wearing thin?
Is it just me, or is Sarah Palin one of the most repulsive pols in memory, on par with George W Bush or Dick Cheney.
Grrrrr
October 15, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am almost convinced Sarah Palin lives in an alternate universe. I am almost positive about this considering she never manages to say things that make any sense.
October 15, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently, Palin reads public opinion about as accurately as she reads her own ethics reports.
October 15, 2008 9:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, she does read ALL the papers. All of the media.
Seriously though, she's what my grandma would call a real dinga doonga.
October 15, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love the way that Palin is trying to make the case that Bush is the past as he presently sits in the White House and the American people are facing the economic devastation of his administration...while at the same time McCain/Palin and the Republican Party are running ads about a radical from the 1960s. Which candidate is concerned about the past?
October 15, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sarah, just click your red heels together and keep saying, "there's no place like home..."
October 15, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was going to try and attend one of Palin's rallies here in NH, but can't get away.
Todd was here last week for a big Snow Mobile event and the crowd there loved him. One guy interviewed on local TV said he really liked the Palins cuz they know what it's like to live in a place with a lot of snow! Yee ha, his cute wife gets my vote, you betchya.
October 15, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Unlike Chicago. No snow there.
October 15, 2008 9:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Snow machine, thank you very much.
October 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
"I love the way that Palin is trying to make the case that Bush is the past as he presently sits in the White House...and the Republican Party are running ads about a radical from the 1960s..."
Acually Ayers was setting bombs in the 70's, The Weathermen weren't even formed until 69 but that's beside the point. The problem is Obama's current association with the terrorist. Ask yourself one question. If Ayers bombed abortion clinics would you be concerned about him hanging out with Obama?
October 15, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
What about McCain's association with known terrorist and convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy? What about McCain hiring Saddam Hussein's lobbyist?
Who is the real John McCain Sgt.? The people have a right to know.
October 15, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely, question those...but stop whinning about questions asked Obama...it's his own fault because he keeps changing the answer...like the new ACORN questions.
October 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I know! He keeps changing his answers! How will he answer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9wy2MI1NI
The association game is not something a long time politician can play well.
Frankly, I don't care about Liddy, McCain's ACORN associations, his palling around with Saddam Hussein's lobbyist...
What I care about is getting this country on firm ground again. I believe Barack Obama is the man that can do this. I know you believe differently and that's OK.
Seriously, aren't you embarrassed about how the Republican Party has been conducting themselves? Do you really think McCain has run the best campaign he was capable of?
October 15, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Damn. That was supposed to be a reply to your below post.
October 15, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Absolutely, question those...but stop whinning about questions asked Obama...it's his own fault because he keeps changing the answer...like the new ACORN questions.
October 15, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
You should know better if you come on this site making accusations, at least give specifics. How is he "changing his answers." Are you saying that he conspired with ACORN to register people who would then commit voter fraud on election day?
October 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's this one:
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7231
October 15, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I always wanted to ask you this: What are you doing on this liberal site where the crowd is mostly highly educated, almost all with some college degree, Bachelor's, Master's, and Ph.d's?
October 15, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Probably doing the same thing I'm doing on redstate. Trying to figure out wtf the other side is thinking, and how to change their minds.
October 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yep
October 15, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, what's with your attraction to futility?
C'mon, you don't come on this site with reasoned arguments and debate. You come on w/rightwing talking points and you flame. You do here what most trolls do and you do it for the same reasons.
If you really wanted to present reasonable counterpoints, you could do that rationally, but you don't.
October 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
The fact that you consider any reasonable opposing argument RNC talking points isn't a shotcoming on my part. I feel many of the things y'all claim as equally unreasonable.
October 15, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Arguing against you guys, makes debating (and hopefully converting) reasonable run of the mill voters a snap.
October 15, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
P.S. Some of us are equally as educated as y'all. I know you like to believe we're just a bunch of dumbass rednecks but we're not. Sorry.
October 15, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now we're reaching. My guess that this change in language may have to do with the fact that Obama worked WITH the Department of Justice on behalf of ACORN at one point. Too bad who ever is putting together the story doesn't listen to Obama when he speaks to the press, or they would know that. Now if you want to jump on Obama's case for working with the Department of Justice, go ahead. Other than that there is no evidence that he has had any other relationship with ACORN. When you get something, come on back.
October 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
"ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days. Madeline Talbott hired him to train her staff -- the very people who would later descend on Chicago's banks as CRA shakedown artists. The Democratic nominee later funneled money to the group through the Woods Fund, on whose board he sat, and through the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, ditto. Obama was not just sympathetic -- he was an ACORN fellow traveler."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/acorn_obama_and_the_mortgage_m.html
October 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sgt, please explain this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9wy2MI1NI
"What makes America special is what's in this room tonight. That's what makes America special."
John McCain, keynote speaker at an ACORN conference
The association game is a loser for your candidate.
October 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
That was an ACORN Conference? Cuz she introduced about 25 oragnizations there...and since when is giving a speech in front of a gathering of civic groups the same as working for, training, representing in court, channeling foundation grant money and campaign funds to an organization under investigation for voter fraud in more than 15 states?
October 15, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm more concerned with Obama hanging out with the likes of Walter Annenburg. All that money, influence, connections to archconservative power brokers, and a willingness to employ known terrorists! What was Obama thinking?!
October 15, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am not. If I were given a choice between pacifist Ayers and war monger McCain, I'd vote for Ayers, though I deplore violence unconditionally.
And when did Obama show "will" to employ "terrorists"? That's a pretty harsh accusation.
And what's the better way to serve the community than with Repugs' money, if you want to characterize Annenburg Foundation as a partisan political establishment?
October 15, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
"...pacifist Ayers..." Are you crazy?!? How many bombs does a guy need to set off to lose "pacifist" status?
October 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
A Bible school educated like yourself is blindfolded and cannot understand what pacifism means. It means no to war; yes to piece. Weatherground was against Vietnam WAR, therefore a pacifist group. You and your Republicans have been friends with state sponsored global terrorism for decades now.
Let me recycle some of the things I said on other threads before. The burden is on you to defend.
Ayers has more to do with McCain's campaign than Obama's. Here is the fact: Ayers never served as a "board member" of the education project Obama chaired. McCain's present campaign donor and Annenburg Foundation President invited Ayers a couple of times to the board meeting. By your own rule, your donor's trustee is your trustee, so McCain is more related to Ayers at the present than to Obama.
William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
In addition McCain's terrorist tie has a long history: Keating 5; Palin and secessionist AIP, which has a strong tie with Iran; Iran contra; Carl H. Lindner Jr, a McCain's fund raiser, supported United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, a paramilitary terrorist group; in 1993/1994 McCain voted for bombings, arson and blockades at abortion clinics and for shooting doctors/nurses; his praise for felon G. Gordon Liddy as recent as in May 2007 ("I’m proud of you, Gordon"); McCain "palled" around with international con man Raffaello Follieri; McCain's lobbyists include terrorists Doug Goodyear, Doug Davenport, Charlie Black, Tom Loeffler, and Peter Madigan, and their firms' clients: For instance, Black represented Angolan terrorist Jonas Savimbi; McCain's tie with Roberto Martin Perez, groomed under the guardianship of Cuban communist Batista and CANF and its support for terrorism.
Add to that list:
(1) "Now is a good time for suppliers to take advantage. I encourage you to seize this moment and pursue business ventures with the firms here [in Iraq]."----Robert Mosbacher Sr. at Iraqi arms fair, 1989.
Mosbacher, currently the McCain campaign's general chairman, played a large role in approving the export of sensitive technology to the regime of Saddam Hussein just before his regime invaded Kuwait.U.S. (Source: News & World Report, 18 February 1991).
(2) "Nicaraguan rebel leaders, scrambling for a survival strategy in the wake of congressional refusal last week to appropriate new aid funds, pleaded today for independent financial contributions from U.S. supporters to two private foundations based in Washington.
The contra leaders said Republican presidential candidate Robert Dole recently contributed $500 to rebel coffers, and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) donated $400." (Source: Washington Post, 9 February 1988).
October 15, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Pacifism is the opposition to war or violence as a means of settling disputes or gaining advantage."
So, what part of bombing the Capitol and Pentagon and NYC Police headquarters, and a dance at Ft. Dix NJ (even though that one went off prematurley and killed his girlfriend), is in opposition to violenec as a means of setteling his dispute with the government? Oh and Southern Illinois University and GCSU aren't bible schools, though I did learn the difference between piece and peace along the way.
October 15, 2008 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think your irony detector is set a little low. I was mocking the suggestion that Obama was associating with a dangerous terrorist by pointing out how Annenburg had no problem supporting Ayers and how Annenburg's attributes (wealthy Republican influence peddler) didn't rub off on Obama either directly or (to employ the Republican smear machine's favorite fallacy) through association.
I'll try to be a little sharper next time.
October 15, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
I apologize. From now on, I'll raise my irony detector higher.
October 15, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bush never wears thin to McSame. Proof here, indisputable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U5KZzgaB2k
Statement attributed to Cindy McCain: You can never be too rich or too thin.
October 15, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
She don't lie
She don't lie
She don't lie
(B maj)
Cocaine
October 15, 2008 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain at the premeire of W. LOLs all around!! You couldn't write fiction that good. I would've loved to have seen his face when he realized what was going on. Hilarious.
Anyone going to go see W.? I think I'm going this weekend.
October 15, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
In Nate Silver's "feedback loops: the worse McCain's poll numbers become, the more desperate his campaign looks, and the more desperate his campaign looks, the worse his poll numbers become."
Being a 2nd Wave cybernetics fan, this was one of my favorites this morning for the simple reason it invokes "feedback loop," blurring the claim of causal theory, or cause-effect premise.
Of the polls, Nate's early voting data is worthy to have a look at: "Obama is leading by an average of 23 points among early voters in these five states [NM,OH, GA, IA, and NC]." In the first four of these states, 10-18% of the voters have already cast their votes.
October 15, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
The "W" movie has got good reviews at http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009470-bush/ where a whole bunch of not-too-bright critics are "surprised" that paranoid nut case Oliver Stone gave the First Lout a lot of slack.
If they had bothered to see "Nixon," they would have known that terrible presidents are never responsible for their misdeeds, but instead some shadowy cabal of bad men somewhere is accountable. The same faceless evildoers, deep in the U.S. government and also demons of the business word, who planned the assassinations of the Kennedys and MLK according to Stone's "triangulation" insanity.
October 15, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
The "W" movie has got good reviews at http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10009470-bush/ where a whole bunch of not-too-bright critics are "surprised" that paranoid nut case Oliver Stone gave the First Lout a lot of slack.
If they had bothered to see "Nixon," they would have known that terrible presidents are never responsible for their misdeeds, but instead some shadowy cabal of bad men somewhere is accountable. The same faceless evildoers, deep in the U.S. government and also demons of the business word, who planned the assassinations of the Kennedys and MLK according to Stone's "triangulation" insanity.
October 15, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin gets more dumber and dumber each day. This stupid twit never utters a word unless it’s placed into her mouth by the McCain camp. She has no independent thought because she knows nothing
How can we be living in the past when we are still living thru the outrageous disasters of the Bush administration. We are still fighting a war based on awful lies in Iraq and suffering thru the worst economic catastrophe since the great depression. And what do McCain and Palin offer? The same revolting policies that got us into this mess.
October 15, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin's problem is that she's running with McCain on the top of the ticket, McCain who gushed about Bush and voted with him over 90% of the time the past two years.
It's almost as if Palin and McCain are running two seperate campaigns now.
October 15, 2008 10:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, the two campaigns match the 18 conflicting messages. They should be okay. Ha!
October 15, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
If true, then her second problem is that she is Palin. Her disapproval ratings confirm.
Alaska or Texas are redneck environments she can do okay in. Other than that route, nobody much needs her.
October 15, 2008 11:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Question: Is ACORN "rigging" the polls by having the pollsters call people who don't exist?
What. A. Croc.
October 15, 2008 11:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now that you mention it, I wonder if the claims of all those new Democrats registering causes the polling firms to adjust the % of D vs. R in the poll and skew the numbers that way...It may not be as bad as it looks...
October 15, 2008 2:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, I'm sure he'll be happy with an unconsolidated lead -- as long as it's big!
October 15, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the Dems are asking "Who is Sarah Palin?" "What do we really know about her?" "Is she dangerous for the country?" "Does she hang out with (or is she married to) AIP successionists that hate America?"
October 15, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Note that the Palins are going to a state (NH) where McCain is trailing by 10. To put that in perspective, Obama is CLOSER in Georgia (trailing by 6).
Imagine if Obama's path to 270 went through the Peach Tree state. Now flip that, and you have what McCain's looking at. Yeah.
October 15, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
SGreen wrote: "I always wanted to ask you this: What are you doing on this liberal site where the crowd is mostly highly educated, almost all with some college degree, Bachelor's, Master's, and Ph.d's?"
Hey! I'm barely two clicks above complete moron, a fellow with no letters after his name, and even *I* am capable of semi-rational thought. *I* can name at least one newspaper, or magazine, that I read. I may be a dumb-ass, but I'm not brain dead enough to think the Methusala/Moose Drool ticket has anything to offer but sneer and snark.
My point is, and yes; I DO have one, is don't write off us under-educated Liberals.
And: can someone refresh my memory about the Coriolis Effect? Does the M/M campaign circle the drain clockwise or counter-clockwise?
October 15, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am quoting you literally, however you may have intended some irony, and responding simplistically.
That's oxymoranic: liberal" and "uneducated." If you are a liberal, you are always already educated, i.e. awakened, through self-education, experience, family, culture, community, or values acquired through myriad of sources. One does not necessarily have to be school-educated. We liberals established schools to educate/awaken conservatives.
October 15, 2008 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
How many bet that Schieffer will ask republican talking points and pressure Obama to answer them. Watch for "trust" to be a big issue. Also, will Schieffer bring up Ayers and Wright so all McCain has to do is comment on them after Obama answers to the "charges". How often will Schieffer thank McCain for being a POW which McCain would have volunteered to be because of how well it's worked out for him and his career by his milking it for all he could get out of it. Will McCain's scam of voter fraud and the ACORN smears be exposed for the propaganda it really is. Consider that Obama has been distancing himself from ACORN also saying his campaign is so good at registering new voters that he doesn't need ACORN. Not ones instance of voter fraud resulting from ACORN's registrations...not one. Obama must come with statistics in hand.
Seems so many McCain supporters want to see smack down wrestling, being unable to understand discussions. Disagreeing translates to "kill him". Schieffer is already gearing up to make himself debate moderator famous with his "I'll make 'em stay on question" talk.
No such thing as voter fraud, no evidence, the system works...Why aren't dems loudly challenging these republican liars...Spakowsky alleging voter fraud needs to be smacked down...he's at DoJ still?...Why is it all we hear from on voter fraud is Repubs...where are the dem voices.
Also Biden can't believe that McCain is not 100% honorable???WTF Biden can't be that naive can he, or that stupid. Biden can't believe he's been duped by McCain's phoniness yet the whole world sees McCain's hypocrisy and ruthless, dishonest ambition. So WTF Biden...get your head out of the clouds and take a good look at McCain and know he's always been like this and hiding it it in plain sight.
October 15, 2008 12:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
,blockquote>don't write off us under-educated Liberals.
I am quoting you literally, however you may have intended some irony, and responding simplistically.
That's oxymoranic: liberal" and "uneducated." If you are a liberal, you are always already educated, i.e. awakened, through self-education, experience, family, culture, community, or values acquired through myriad of sources. One does not necessarily have to be school-educated. We liberals established schools to educate/awaken conservatives.
October 15, 2008 12:59 PM | Reply | Permalink