Election Central Morning Roundup
McCain Ad: "We All Know The Truth" About Obama's Extreme Liberalism
The new post-debate McCain ad doesn't use any debate footage, but is instead a more general spot going after Obama for being a liberal -- and for having something to hide:
"Mr. Obama, we all know the truth," the announcer says sternly.
New Obama Ad: McCain's Health Plan Giveth -- Then Taketh Away
The Obama campaign has a new ad using footage from the debate, continuing their push against John McCain's health-care plan -- something they've clearly identified as an effective wedge issue in the battle for working-class voters:
"He says that he's going to give you a $5,000 tax credit," Obama says. "What he doesn't tell you is that he's going to tax your employer based health care benefits, for the first time ever. So what one hand giveth, the other hand taketh away."
Barack Obama In Indiana, Michelle In New Hampshire, Biden In Florida
Barack Obama is campaigning today in Indiana, with a rally set to begin at 12:15 p.m. ET. Michelle Obama is holding an 11:30 a.m. ET rally in Keene, New Hampshire. Joe Biden is back on the campaign trail today, with an 8:30 a.m. ET community event in Tampa, Florida, and a 5:30 p.m. ET community event in Fort Myers, Florida.
GOP Ticket In Ohio And Pennsylvania
John McCain and Sarah Palin will be holding a rally today in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, scheduled for 1:35 p.m. ET. Then they're off to Strongsville, Ohio, for another joint rally at 5:15 p.m. ET.
Poll: McCain Narrowly Ahead In North Carolina
The new SurveyUSA poll of North Carolina gives John McCain a 49%-46% lead here, within the ±4% margin of error. On the one hand, this is better for McCain than other recent polls showing Barack Obama taking the lead in this Southern state -- but it's not as good as SurveyUSA poll from a month ago, which gave him a 20-point lead.
Polls: Obama Up Ten Points In Wisconsin
Two new polls are giving Barack Obama ten-point leads in Wisconsin, a state that only just barely voted for Al Gore and John Kerry. From SurveyUSA: Obama 52%, McCain 42%. And from Rasmussen: Obama 54%, McCain 44%.
New York Times Condemns McCain
The New York Times has a new editorial today lambasting what has become of the McCain campaign. "They have gone far beyond the usual fare of quotes taken out of context and distortions of an opponent's record -- into the dark territory of race-baiting and xenophobia," the Times says. "Senator Barack Obama has taken some cheap shots at Mr. McCain, but there is no comparison."
obama should start singing the who from now on whenever he is in front of mccain:
And I can see
That this is me,
And I will be,
Youll all see
Im the one.
Im the one.
October 8, 2008 9:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Barack Obama he's "that one" - President of the United States of AMERICA!
October 8, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Our ads get better and better, theirs get dumber and dumber. Heh. Losers.
October 8, 2008 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
That McCain "We all know the truth" ad is the dumbest ad I have ever seen. It is practically a commercial FOR Barack Obama.
October 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
WI - 2 elderly parents (91 and 86) have turned from being enthralled by Palin (during the repub convention) to a conviction that Obama is "the one who has to get us out of this mess." They are convinced he will win and they hope he is up to this historic task. So convinced are they, that they knew the outcome of the debate before it happened. And didn't even bother to watch!
Change is coming.
Yes. We. Can.
October 8, 2008 9:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Always good to hear, Thera.
October 8, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Word, WI, Thera.
Word.
October 8, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
My two grandmothers live in MN. One at 94 years young has been on board w/ Obama for quite awhile. The other at 86 is still in the McCain camp and I am sad to say believes that an Obama presidency will unleash a Helter Skelter like race war. Regardless, I sure love them both (they both attended my same-sex marriage ceremony this summer) and I am finding comfort that they will essentially cancel each other out.
October 8, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
We're watching the death spasms of the McCain campaign. Get in on the fun, donate to Obama if you can.
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October 8, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
That is an absolutely terrible ad from McCain. Did the let Palin make it? Or maybe the First Dude.
October 8, 2008 9:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
You beat me to it! It's pure Palin: vague, full of effects, absolutely no logical link between the beginning and the conclusion.
October 8, 2008 9:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The McCain ad strikes me as very bizarre. Why would he spend money on an ad featuring Obama gently and with some dignity calling him out as a liar?
The only explanation is that McCain expects us all to share his own delusional sense of himself -- that he could never be a liar and simply calling him that is outrageous.
I don't think that will work, but I hope he spends a lot of money putting it on the air.
October 8, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
How long before McCain runs an ad quoting the NY Times, "Senator Barack Obama has taken some cheap shots at Mr. McCain," conveniently leaving out the fact that the whole point of the editorial was about how sleazy his campaign has been?
October 8, 2008 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
lol In about 60, 59, 58...
October 8, 2008 9:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
While it's nice to read that the Times is calling McCain/Falin out on xenophobia and straight-up race baiting, one has to wonder as always: why does it take days for them to come to these realizations?
I'm being all rhetorical here, not naive....
October 8, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Memo to McCain camp:
Nobody cares about this liberal tag crap anymore.
You know that it's all lost for them when they're trying to hold on their base.
Even if this is not the time to get complacent or overconfident, I'll recommend McCain to start thinking of his concession speech. He should know, the speech that you do when you lose. That one.
Landslide on November 4th!
October 8, 2008 9:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm surprised they didn't use the tag, "socialist." I guess that's too 20th century, even for McCain.
October 8, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're right about the 'liberal' thing; it used to be used as an insult by the republicans all the time, but it does seem to have lost that connotation to some extent. I wonder when that happened?
October 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Socialist" is certainly the vogue word among the members of the Secret Southern Republican Emails of Truth That Dare Not Speak its Name Club.
Its like they dimly perceived that if "liberal" is the opposite of "conservative" and "conservative" is the brand that brought us the collapse of the financial markets, "liberal," just wasn't going to get it done this year so they had to esalate the rhetoric.
And then Bush and Paulson had to go nationalizing big chunks of the economy and "socialist" kind of lost its power too, as a result of which they are now escalating again to "communist." Which is problematic for them because the only governing communists left in the world are the governing the most cut-throat corrupt capitalists on the planet.
Poor, poor Republicans. All their scare words don't work anymore.
October 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
No surprise the Dream Ticket is off to Penna. and Ohio.
I read no Republican Pres. has ever been elected without taking the Fuckeye State with its Talibangelical obscurantists, yet they're on the verge of losing it. Bad juju for the Ancient Mariner and Klondike Barbie!
October 8, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Easy on Ohio. I have a lot of family there and they're on our side wholeheartedly. They've been volunteering, canvassing, even traveling from state to state for the Obama campaign.
Yes, there are funddie idiots as well, but let's not condemn the whole state.
October 8, 2008 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
As the NYT editorial also notes:
They are treading on such dangerous, despicable turf here. Either it's their intention to rile up the gun-toting crazies who think Obama's the anti-Christ or they are so fucking clueless that they have no idea the storm of hatred they are about to unleash.
It's worth remembering that while the Great Depression led to the New Deal and a host of progressive policies that saved our economy and our democracy, it also led to a rise in fascism (not only in Germany and Italy but among certain elements here in the U.S., too). Similarly, the current economic disaster is creating the opportunity for progressive political change, but it is also creating comparable dangers, which McShame and Failin are all to willing to exploit in their desperation.
October 8, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's definately over...The New York Times has come out against the Repulican candidate...may as well pack up and go home...
October 8, 2008 9:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
So SFC, how was the debate last night ?
How about that, huh ? huh ?
Pity, your guy got mauled and waved the palinisque white-flag.
October 8, 2008 9:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I actually thought it was kind of boring...neither guy did anything interesting...they should cancel their last one and let Biden and Palin back at it. That was entertaining at least.
October 8, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with SFC--I turned it off when they were bickering for time for the umpteenth time and McCain was saying if Obama can rebut and then he can too. It was kind of strange, between Obama's wanting to always have the last word and McCain's weird painful smile, both candidates pissed me off a bit.
October 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wasn't the Babblecuda referencing the NY Times in her attacks on Obama? I recall her saying something to the effect that the NY Times is "rarely wrong." So either you or the Babblecuda has the wrong talking points.
October 8, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
The media becomes instantly liberal whenever they want it to be. These Republicans are somehow supposed to be virile cultural warriors and crybabies at the same time; I don't get it, do you?
And as for Palin's comment: if the Republicans keep embracing that up-is-down logic, Palin could endorse Obama today and they'd still find a way to lie about it with a straight face. And get elected and reelected.
October 8, 2008 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, lets see that empty pant-suited secessionist xenophobe cite the New York Times now.
October 8, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
You give it the good Army try, Sarge! Don't believe in them polls, and you're so right, who cares if McCain is whipping up people to call Obama a terrorist and an African-American camerman "boy." Fight, fight, fight!
October 8, 2008 9:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sargent, how'd you like that $300 billion-mortgage-buyout-on-top-of-the-Wall-Street-bailout McCain was selling last night? And that's *your* candidate!
October 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate it...the only way it becomes even palatable is if it comes out of the 700 billion already allocated to fix the mess. I think the whole package should be in the form of loans, even if they are zero interest. Every dime should be paid back.
October 8, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
The most credible thing I've heard you say, Wallace.
October 8, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
The problem is, how would they secure the loans? Look what AIG did with their money. They've almost run through all of it. What do they have to show?
(well manicured executives aside)
October 8, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
With an equity stake in the corporation. Default on the loan and Vinnie the Repo Man comes a-callin'.
October 8, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Agreed. I even called my rep not to vote for the bailout (for some reason, just the idea of it sends me into a controlled murderous rage). If it had been strictly loans, then it would have made a LOT more sense.
October 8, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
The SUSA poll for NC has the AA turnout at 20% whereas the AA population is 22%. If just 70% of the 1.3 million registered black voters turn out for this election, Obama wins. Given that 59% turnout out in 2004 when it wasn't even competitive, that's an easy lay up.
There is so much excitement about Obama's candidacy here, I wouldn't be surprised if the black turnout is 80+%.
October 8, 2008 9:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
It really would be great to see the good guys take NC.
October 8, 2008 9:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Indeed.
And, yes, Eric, the SUSA trend from McCain +20 (a ridiclous and insane result that frankly perhaps they should have not even published) to McCain +3 is definitely NOT good for John McCain.
October 8, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
By the bumper sticker and yardsign measure, McPowlin's goin' down here.
Back during the primary, I monitored a predominately (i.e. three white people voted there) precinct for Obama's campaign. By about 2:00, the campaign was freaking. Turned out they'd put me there because they considered that precinct a bellweather and their model assumed turnout would be about 100% greater than it was. They flooded the neighborhood with canvassers to try to get people out of their houses and to the polls.
Well, we know how that one turned out. The networks had called it for Obama before I could even get into my car to drive to the victory party.
Turns out, the campaign had nailed the number of people from that neighborhood who would vote, but had not counted on the fact that almost exactly half of them would vote early. Early voting empowers the working poor, people holding down two or three minimum wage jobs who just can't take half a day off to vote because they're paid by the hour.
Early voting, the complete failure of McPowlin to take the risk to him in this state seriously until it was too late and the delta between the ground games (huge vs. zippo,zilch,bupkis) have, IMHO, put NC beyond McCain's reach.
October 8, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Using debate footage in the ad reinforces in the viewer's mind that the debate went better for Obama.
October 8, 2008 9:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain is losing it.
Oh, the webs we weave...
http://thetruthburns.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/the-tragedy-of-maccain/
October 8, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!!!
"How extreme!" "Mr. Obama, we all know the truth." That's got to be the most transparent outrage I've seen on a political ad all year. I wish there were a way to tell how many independent voters are driven to Obama by this cheap plastic insincerity.
Did McCain's campaign not see the political ad skit on SNL that mocked them directly? Why aren't they ashamed?
October 8, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Have you seen how old every stinking one of McCain's campaign advisers are?
Simply more old ideas for new problems. Myopia and ignorance rarely make problems better. But playing fiddles during house fires sure makes for pretty music.
October 8, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's along the lines of what I was thinking. That ad is just so unfathomably bad, I'm glad they're wasting their money on it. It accomplishes nothing.
October 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Love the giveth and taketh away by sen. Obama, with perfect gestures to accompany.
I pity McCain on one thing only: he truly is a prisoner of his wrecked body, but much of that has to do with where is ugly brain has taken him since those early days documented in Rolling Stone when he would pass out from the ferocity of his own temper tantrums.
October 8, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anoxia can do terrible things to one's brain.
October 8, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
So do we figure it is sinking in with them that they lost the election? Or does the angry old curmudgeon have another fruitless Hail Mary diversion left in him?
October 8, 2008 9:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
There's still time for Obama/Biden to foul this up...I'm waiting to see the commercial during the last week of the election that shows Biden talking about how Obama isn't ready and it finishes with Obama himself saying there's no way he's ready back in 04. Then McCain says "I'm John McCain and I approve this message...and apparently so do those guys."
October 8, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure that will work wonderfully after the public already decided Obama won all the debates.
October 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
I suspect you're right. I'm surprised, though, that they haven't put ads like that before these frankly silly "Who is Barack Obama" ads. It's harder to muddy yourself with footage that speaks more or less for itself.
October 8, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
But you figure that wins it for them, do you? You seen the In-Trade chart over at right lately?
October 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
You mean you'd like to see a commerical that says what McCain and Palin have been saying for weeks . . . and hasn't worked? Pass that along to the McCain camp. I'm sure they have plenty of money to burn in their efforts to keep Indiana, NC, VA red!!
October 8, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
"You mean you'd like to see a commerical that says what McCain and Palin have been saying for weeks . . . "
Yep...but this time it's Biden and Obama himself argeeing with them. I bet it runs the week before the election.
October 8, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ohhhh. The thought of this is so scary I just wet my pants.
October 8, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
..and I bet it falls flatter than all your other desperate ideas.
October 8, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
uh, Wally, McLame already ran one with Biden saying Obama wasn't ready(what you'd expect from a former primary opponent), and you can see how well that worked.
Go ahead and run one with Obama saying something in 2004 if you want, I guess McLame has to do something with his remaining funds, but if that's the best you've got, then Big O can start picking out drapes for the White House.
October 8, 2008 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
After running for president over the last year and a half, having 22 debates in the primaries, demolishing McCain in the debates - good luck with that hamfisted strategy. lol
October 8, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know...it seems pretty good to me...if someone hasn't made up their mind by the week before the election (I don't know how that works by the way...all those "undecideds" now boggels my mind) this seems like a nice push in the right direction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gexyfVpFMU&NR=1
October 8, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
"We all know ..."
Shit, that's the same lame line David Boswell used here in Kentucky when he was trying to persuade real dems to vote for his DINO ass.
"I don't have to tell you what the issues are, you know what they are."
Yeah, asshole, WE know what the issues are; we want to know what YOU think the issues are.
That's right, Walnuts - we know all about Obama's record, which is why we're going to vote him the biggest landslide since LBJ.
October 8, 2008 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
That McCain ad is truly the weakest ever. They even let Obama repeatedly debunk it within the ad itself!
October 8, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay now I know they're trying to lose.
Clips of Obama accusing the McCain campaign of lying, over and over? Used in a McCain campaign ad?
Maybe next they'll show clips of Barack Obama debunking their health care and other policies, over and over, and then at the end just add "Pffft." So the body of the ad is really pretty much what Barack Obama would put out, but then adding "Is not!" at the end makes it a persuiasive McCain campaign commercial?
I swear whoever is running things there is throwing this thing, though I can't imagine why.
October 8, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Conservatives have thrown McCain under the bee-uss.
October 8, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
HA! Love the avatar!
October 8, 2008 10:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I had the same thought.
Since when does showing your campaign being accused repeatedly of lying make for good press? And Obama saying politely how he doesn't like to refer to anyone that way on top of it.
Are these people insane?
To me, in only reaffirms this impression with many voters. Reminding them of all lies of the campaign that get lost in the 24 hour news cycle. I could easily see how it could cause independents to ask "What's that about?".
The only ones this may possibly appeal to are already blindly with the McCain campaign.
October 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
HE should made that a part of the bailout package to begin with and I think he'd have a better standing with voters now. As it is, it's even worse because it just ramps up the price tag and it's just too late.
October 8, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
The mortgage bailout gambit that is . . .
October 8, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually the original bailout bill does cover this. Being able to restructure home loans to let people out of predatory lending terms, as well as modifying fair loan terms, is a power granted within the bailout.
Nothing outrageously new here.
October 8, 2008 10:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I suppose that Obama was too flabbergasted that McCain didn't know what was in the rescue bill to respond last night. On the Today show this morning, Biden did point that out.
McCain suspends his campaign to 'fix' the rescue bill, says 'perhaps some will give me credit for that', and then reveals that he doesn't even know what is in the bill! How is that not a major gaffe!
October 8, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Anyone here seen the latest Zogby phone poll? It, along with the CBS NYTimes poll put the race at about 3 points difference on Obama's side. Add in the Hotline/Diageo Pres-Tracker on this page and I get somewhat nervous about the rest of these polls. Any comments?
October 8, 2008 10:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Feel free to get nervous, if it makes you feel better, but my impression is that there was going to be some inevitable pull-back in SOME polls following his high-water mark, and we are seeing that in Diego, for instance. Zogby has as much credibilty at this point as Bush. You could just as easily point to Ras still showing +6 and take comfort, or look at the average and take comfort, and I suggest for your peace of mind you do that, as focusing on individual results will cause unneeded worry.
Oh, and as for why there may be a general tightening other than inevitable and expected movement? Biden was off the trail for three days dealing with the death of his mother-in-law, and Obama was off more or less getting ready for debate #2. That left Sarah Clueless with a few days to babble baseless allegations and more or less have a news cycle to herself.
With Biden re-emerging today and Obama able to hit the trail again, that tiny window for them is over...
October 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's only up 2 in the Zogby tracking poll? Huh?
October 8, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's right. Seems really odd given the 9 point lead being reported lately elsewhere.
October 8, 2008 10:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think those polls are crap (Zogby is ALWAYS crap), but they're useful as antidotes to complacency.
October 8, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
I tried to check out the links for these, but I couldn't find enough of the methodology. If they don't include cell phone calls, that may explain part of the discrepancy (reports suggest that people who only own a cell phone, with no land line, are much more likely to support Obama, which can skew a survey by 2-3 points or more if the pollsters only call land lines). Or they could just be outliers, random noise.
Worrying about every single poll is going to give you unnecessary stress. Not that I should talk. I sometimes get bent out of shape if Gallup Daily Tracking has a 1- or 2-point blip (it currently has Obama at +9). But I find that when I start to worry, the best thing is to donate $20 to the Obama campaign, or write a letter to the editor. Find something to do that will help you do your part, and it will ease your worry a little.
October 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
For another round-up of election coverage that includes TPM articles & video (& credit where credit is due), go to RealityChex.com at http://www.realitychex.com
October 8, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
1.Zogby has to be one of the worst pollers in existence
2.Diego changed their party ID numbers and added more republicans
3.Daily trackers go up and down, I know you didn't think it would stay at 9 forever?
4.Stop fucking getting panicked Democrats, we just keep working and once the 4th comes that map will look like an invasion of the smurfs.
October 8, 2008 10:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm tempted to give Zogby the 100 bucks just so I can see the shitty internals he must be using....
Ok. Temptation gone. Almost. I'll give the 100 to Obama.
October 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks, not showing up this small, the text says "I'm John McCain and I approve this schmear".
I'll have to enlarge the text for this forum.
October 8, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
That was a response to Barrista Berry, didn't check the box. Because I didn't know how this worked yet.
October 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is the McCain ad paid for by Obama?. "Folks are lying". Sounds right to me. Obama in 2008!
October 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not just the McCain Campaign -the whole Republican party. We need to keep the pressure on and kick these guys to the curb for a generation if not once and for all.
October 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Reagan: There that one goes again.
Reagan: I'm not going to exploit that one's youth and inexperience
Bentsen: That one should know I knew Jack Kennedy, I served with Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. That one is no Jack Kennedy.
October 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Who in the world puts together an ad with your opponent in good lighting with his "change" brand sign displayed right behind him? The McCain campaign is getting more amateurish by the day. In about ten days we're going to start hearing sniping from inside the camp.
October 8, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama DID remark during the debate, right after McC made his statement, that the mortgage issue was already included in the bailout plan. He didn't emphasize it; he merely threw it out as a corrective.
October 8, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain's new ad.."I'm John McCain...and I don't know what I'm talking about". How dumb. We all know the truth Obama...you're a liberal? LOL. How stupid. John want his hotsy totsy now...how about a blanket?
You'd think they'd want to end it with some class and honor...but not these goobers, they have no principles.
October 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to share this with my fellow Obama supporters to give you some hope (sorry for the length but it's necessary):
I received a surprising email from my brother-in-law Ryan this morning. He knows that I am a strong Obama supporter. Ryan has always voted Repulican. A few weeks ago I sent him an email about the McCain camp and he sent me an angry email in response, saying that Obama disgusted him with his refusal to put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance and that the entire Obama campaign was a joke. Thereafter, I did not engage in political discussions with him because I could see it was pointless.
Fast forward to this morning...when I received the following email from Ryan: "Hey just thought you might like to know that after watching the last two debates between the “vices” and the future presidents I think it is very clear that the right person to vote for is Senator Obama. His proposals for repairing our economy make much more sense and seem to be fair for all Americans across the board. I even agree with his ideas for the war in Iraq and his plans for Bin Laden. Not to mention that Palin seems like she would be better fit doing underwear modeling for older women’s underwear or something like that. She just seems a little air headed to be running a country…..just an observation. Also the way being president ages people…..if McCain is going into this looking like he should be using a walker how long will he make it before he turns it over to the air headed old lady’s undi model…..So anyway just thought you might like to know that after hearing both candidates and the vices debate I have change my mind."
Wow, what a total turnaround! And THAT is why McCain has pulled his campaign out of Michigan, my friends!!!
October 8, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
why do they keep up with he is the most liberal person if its for there base well they are done because all figures show that democratic base is bigger and that we are registering more new voters
October 8, 2008 2:21 PM | Reply | Permalink