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Election Central Morning Roundup

Tonight: The Second Presidential Debate
Barack Obama and John McCain are meeting tonight in Nashville, Tennessee, for their second debate. The debate will be conducted in a town-hall format, and will begin at 9 p.m. ET.

Obama Ad: McCain "Out Of Ideas, Out Of Touch"
The Obama campaign has this new ad, set to air on national cable, saying that John McCain is trying to change the subject away from the economy with his smears against Barack Obama:

"He's out of ideas, out of touch, and running out of time," the announcer says. "But with no plan to lift our economy up, John McCain wants to tear Barack Obama down."

McCain Ad: Obama "Hypocritical" On Smear Ads
This new McCain ad, set to air nationally, calls Barack Obama a hypocrite for complaining about misleading TV ads, only to run misleading ads of his own:

"Barack Obama. He promised better," the announcer says. "He lied."

Polls: Obama Up In Battleground States
A new set of CNN polls shows Barack Obama running strong in four key swing states: Obama is up 53%-45% in New Hampshire, 50%-47% in Ohio, 51%-46% in Wisconsin, and is tied with John McCain 49%-49% in North Carolina. The only real bright spot for McCain in this batch is Indiana, where he has a 51%-46% lead.

Michelle Obama In North Carolina, Biden Off The Trail
Michelle Obama will hold a rally today in Jacksonville, North Carolina, set to begin at 1:30 p.m. ET. Joe Biden is still off the campaign trail for today, as his family mourns the death of his mother-in-law.

Palin Touring Florida And North Carolina
Sarah Palin is continuing her tour of the South, with stops today in several Republican stronghold areas within key battleground states. Palin has a 10 a.m. ET rally in Jacksonville, Florida, a 3:30 p.m. ET rally in Pensacola, Florida, and a 7 p.m. ET rally in Greenville, North Carolina.

Hagel's Wife To Formally Endorse Obama
Lilibet Hagel, the wife of GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel, will formally endorse Barack Obama at a press conference in Alexandria, Virginia. On the one hand, it's been a matter of public record that Mrs. Hagel has donated to Obama -- but this will be viewed by many in the media as a sign that Sen. Hagel himself is supporting Obama.

Anti-Obama Author Detained In Kenya
Jerome Corsi, author of the anti-Obama smear book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, has been detained by authorities in Kenya as he set out to conduct a book tour there. Authorities there say Corsi does not have a work permit for his tour.


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Here's this morning's Sarah Palin Hate Rally Report:

Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html

Okay, this is not cute nor funny. Someone is going to get hurt as a result of this.

Hopefully some saner minds in their campaign will get her to dial it down a bit. I doubt it, unfortunately.

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Or the press will stop covering her. Is that their objective? This is so childish. And so dangerous.

And it doesn't make too much strategic sense. This kind of stuff doesn't win over the independents. Maybe McCain and Palin really are just filled with hatred and rage.

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Their strategy looks like scorched earth to me.

You said it right. This is what "scorched earth" is all about.

Swidden campaigning.

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Vendetta.

Not campaigning.

Take out the 'maybe' in that second sentence and I think you nailed it.

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But it does explain why the campaign is keeping the press away from the crowd at Palin rallies.

Are you kidding? If she inspires an assassination, think of all the commercials they could sell! They'll cover her attacks wall to wall just like they have been doing, and hope for the "best".

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It's a descent into anarchy.

hope not I want them to keep covering it and keep showing them chanting kill em kill em and terrorist and have stuff like this done

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/olbermann-special-comment_n_132456.html?page=11&show_comment_id=16518501#comment_16518501

because if they don't keep covering it then all that will be there is fox and you know they are not showing what is really going on at these events just the good points for the mcsame camp

I hope they dont stop covering them chanting kill em kill em and terriost and saying this stuff

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/olbermann-special-comment_n_132456.html?page=11&show_comment_id=16518501#comment_16518501

plus if they dont cover them you would only have fox doing it and they only cover the attacks on obama not the crap that the crowd and her are pulling and then report it as fact

WTF over! Will it take being tarred and feathered for the MSM to get the hint leave them alone. Make McCain come to them and ask, nicely, for media coverage.

This is really terrifying. Just when it seemed the McShame-Failin campaign's lies had taken American politics to a new low, they've now descended into unthinkable territory. Because what's going on now is that for the first time in history, we have a presidential and vice presidential candidate basically calling out to the crazies to win the election for them at the barrel of a gun.

At the next rally, pitch forks rather than thunder sticks.

How much you want to bet someone brings a rope? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach.

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Mob rule by christianists speaking in tongues?

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As a long-time critic of the Obama ad strategy and grudging admire of the McCain ads, I feel like the world has been turned upside down.

The Obama ad is pretty good (although I think they could just run ads of him talking to the camera directly non-stop now and win).

But the McCain ad is horrendous. I've never seen a more out-of-touch ad full of "who cares?" points. I know they're building a character case. But this ad gets to no essential truths about Obama, or even suspected truths (the way the flip-flopper ads did about Kerry).

McLame indeed.

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I thought the same thing about McCain's ad--just pointless. Obama's excellent--the perfect foil to every attack McCain will roll out over the next 4 weeks.

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When your campaign is calm, thinking can occur. Along with good policies and good ads. But if your campaign is chaotic, there's no thinking, there's raw, fevered flailing about, no room for policies, and ads that spin your tires deeper into the mire.

Put together with his previous ads attempting to define Obama as a celebrity, an elitist, and inexperienced, the attempt to now brand Obama as a liar merely comes off as more feces flung by an erratic, message-less McCaca.

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Yup. When the feces "don't fit" - you trace them back to their source.

After an entire long hot summer of McCain's failed attempts at defining Obama, it is Obama who effortlessly exposes an accurate image of McCain as out of touch and desperate.

Mhehee, Corsi is an illegal alien. Watch the right-wingnuts struggle with the cognitive dissonance defending this one would require.

Don't you just love him being held in Kenya, of all places? There is some justice in the world, or karma.

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"Mhehee, Corsi is an illegal alien. Watch the right-wingnuts struggle with the cognitive dissonance defending this one would require."

Actually, they claim they "lost his paperwork"...
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77268

WorldNetDaily. Reliable source? Heh.

Forget the source. I am just happy to see the old Sarge back even if his classier avatar was scalped by Injuns over at the Little Big Horn. I am sure he can tell us how the McCain comprehensive immigration plan will get Corsi on a pathway to citizenship. You do remeber that plan, don't you Sarge? Back when Johnny was all Marvericky?

Well WTF was the moron doing trying to hock his screed in Kenya, anyway? It makes about as much sense as trying to sell "Mein Kampf" in Tel Aviv. Unless he was trying to provoke an incident of some kind, of course.

He was there at the invitation of "white missionaries" if you believe the AP article.
Think about it. He authors the ultimate book about Obama during election season and the only place he can go to sell it is Kenya?

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Once again, Intrade has Obama at 353 electoral votes. And 538 has him at 343.8.

It's just a matter of surviving the hurricanes, the blizzards, the earthquakes from the mcVendetta side for another 4 weeks.

Don't count Indiana out. Indianapolis TV station poll has the race in a dead heat in Indiana.

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9133733

Yup, it's going to come down to GOTV efforts.

Obama is suppose to be in Indianapolis on Wednesday.

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Just load up all them "homeless" folks you were exploiting in Ohio and haul them over to Indiana...y'all can make this work.

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You speak as if the homeless were animals, to be transported, perhaps in cattle cars. Think again. This economy is leaving many homeless. Pray you will never be among them. But do not speak of them as if they were dumb beasts.. to be transported... perhaps in cattle cars.

It's part of the "SFC's" program, didn't you get the memo? Cattle cars, leading to camps, with nice showers for everyone...

What was that welcoming sign again? Oh yes, "Arbeit macht frei".

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Jawohl.

That is offensive. Sarge was thinking of more humane transport. Kinda like Romney's dog on vacation. And don't get me started on PETA.
I like my Ben and Jerry's with cow milk.

Love this paragraph:

With Barack Obama coming to Indianapolis Wednesday the McCain campaign brought its first paid Indiana staffers on board this week and there is talk of a McCain Indiana campaign stop.

This completely echoes HRC's cluelessness on primaries after Super Tuesday. I wonder if McCain realizes yet what it about to hit him?

Weren't they ridiculing him for trying to compete in IN, VA? Reminds me of when the Clinton campaign was mocking Obama for opening offices in Idaho and other places. Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it....

LOL. I loved that as well. McCain never thought he'd have to fight for Indiana. Or VA, or NC.

Jerome Corsi, author of the anti-Obama smear book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, has been detained by authorities in Kenya as he set out to conduct a book tour there. Authorities there say Corsi does not have a work permit for his tour.
I can see him on Hannity already accusing BO and the Kenyan government for conspiring against him.

no wonder pat buchanan loves her so much. thats just scary...and creepy

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OT: Sky News UK reporting a US fighter has been forced to land in Iran.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/

Looks like the plane was Hungarian. All them white Christian Europeans look alike to Iran.

The difference between the ads can tell the way both candidates will face the debate tonight. Obama will be calm and open to talk about the issues. McCain is a desperate position to change the dynamics of the race and he probably will attack from the start. Of course, the problem of this is that it will do more harm than good: in the middle of the biggest economic crisis in recent memory, the last thing that voters want to hear is vicious personal attacks.

The quotes of McCain's advisers about moving on from the economic issue could be deadly for their aspirations and Obama is seizing the moment by using them. The Medicare cuts quote should be next.

What else you can say about McCain's ads? They're crap, period.

Finally, I'm worried about the language that McCain and Palin have starting to use on their rallys. The least that the US needs right now is more fear, hate and division. ENOUGH!

Corsi detained as an undocumented worker in Kenya.

Too frickin' funny.

Somebody send him an orange jumpsuit.

Gosh, I'm amazed that the mouth-breathers over at FreeRepublic aren't cheering this crackdown on illegal immigration.

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I hope other countries begin to nab more people for us. I hope they indict war criminals. And people who whip up a crowd with hate speech, which could incite riots. And people whose behavior has led the whole world to the brink of financial collapse and recession.

Sane countries around the world, please unite on behalf of the Rule of Law! Track down the criminals if they enter your country. Send them to The Hague. Whatever is necessary.

The hypocrisy of the McCain ad is at laughable levels.

I think the McCain ad might have been more effective if they didn't do the "Who is Barack Obama?" intro, and they made McCain do his "Approve this message" thing first.

It's shameful where McCain/Palin are taking this campaign. It will become more obvious as we get closer to election day that their comments are not meant to convince people. They are meant to encite. Judging by the behavior of their audience, the strategy is working. It isn't clear to me yet what this is supposed to accomplish beyond making their campaign appear even more out of touch with mainstream Americans, but then again, I'm not sure that I really want to know.

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Both of these "Loser Candidates" are sociopaths, which means narcissists to the max without empathy or conscience. As such, they want to be adored. Now if you're losing.... that's a downer. What to do? Whip up a crowd. Feel the "power" of that deranged behavior of yours and theirs. Stave off the sense of defeat. Through primitive rage and projection of all that is worst in you onto the other side, now viewed as an enemy of monumental proportions.

I honestly think the Vendetta Twins are "feeding" on this seething mass of primitive, chaotic emotion. They have no care for America. Just have to have their daily "fix" for as long as it lasts.

No change in ras O 52 that other guy 44

Looks like those attacks on Obama are having a major impact.

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It's the boomerang effect. Kamatsu can tell us all about that.

I'm happy to see McCain use the "lie" word. Perhaps now the Obama Camp will be a little more open in using the word themselves when talking about McCain.


John

I actually had the exact same thought.

Then I thought, who the fuck cares who calls who a lair. McCain is done.

US says all planes accounted for, Iranians say plane & crew were released so doesnt look like much of a story

The folks were Hungarian. Fighting world Hungary.

This seems like they are still attempting to shore up the base. If you are riling up supporters with agitprop at your rallies, you're probably not thinking too much about pandering to the center in an effort to win independents. Holtz-Eakin's comments about cutting Medicare and Medicaid confirm this. Lord knows the base hates those free-loaders who use government programs for their intended purpose.

Of course, we could just be witnessing the national implosion of the McCain campaign, and since there is no overriding strategy, people are just saying what's on their minds and hoping it forms some kind of coherent platform.

I know what I'm about to say is wrong, but the tone of the McCain campaign has brought it out of me: I hope they castrate that motherfucker in Kenya.

Unfortunately the Kenyan government is not that barbaric, AFAIK.

Did you catch Paul Krugman on Rachel Maddow's show last night? When describing what needs to be done to fix the current economic crisis, Krugman said that the Obama transition team needs to start acting on their economic plans immediately after November 4th. How's that for optimism?

I noticed that too. Krugman is usually such a dwerb, but he said that without hesitating.

Yeah, I saw that. Definitely not a cheer-me-up segment. But it would be great to see Obama's team go right into action and begin working with the Treasury Dept. Probably restore a lot of confidence in the global markets as well as here.

I caught that too. It made me smile.

I'd like to see McCain flame out in the debate tonight, but I'm worried about the format.

It's being held at a Baptist college in a red state, and the questions are going to be picked by Tom Brokaw. Do you think Tom will focus on questions about the economy, or Iraq, or health care? Or will he sift through them to find the ones HE thinks the average "Joe Sixpack" wants to ask. Questions about Ayres? Flag pins? Has Obama really quit smoking?

The town hall format is supposed to allow the voters to ask about what's important to them, but I don't like the idea that Brokaw gets to decide which questions to ask.

Fwiw, I'm not worried at all.

Nor I. Obama just has to remain calm and let people know what he plans to do when he takes office.

McCain has to hit one out the ballpark. It seems that they're going on the attack, but that's a bad idea. Unlike the other debates, this audience will let it be known if they disapprove of something, and they will disapprove of either one trying to go on the attack.

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I hope the Baptists know their Bible. And call mcShame on his terrible behavior!

I strongly share your mistrust for Brokaw and for the format and fear a repeat of the Stephanopoulos sham. That said, I think the current crisis will allow Obama to effectively redirect the subjects away from inanities.

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Now that they're also grading the moderators, you never quite know. SNL could really skewer a poor moderator.

Gibson and Couric exceeded expectations. Who knows what Brokaw will show up. The world will be watching...

CNN poll showed 6 out 10 Americans believe we could be heading into a depression. If Tom asks a flagpin question, the audience might surge on him.

Brokaw will start with a question about Social Security. It will be based on a false premise.
This will be done in honor of Tim Russert. I also will bet what's left of my 401 K he asks something about Reagan Democrats.

Boy, I hope you guys are right. I have a lot of faith in Obama, Brokaw not so much.

Obama knows that the goal to solidify those who come onto his side in recent weeks, and maybe peel another 1% or 2% of the undecideds. These people are looking for answers and solutions. Whatever Tom throws at him, Obama, I am confident, will be able to pivot off of to drive home his message.

Oh yeah, and talk about the 1.3 trillion dollars that McCain wants to take away from medicare and medicaid.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear Obama begin the evening with a mention of the Biden family's recent loss.

The Big O will shine tonight. He already completed a training circuit at the Big Church a few weeks back. So when someone asks, "Is it true you spew green bile and spin your head around 360 degrees?" our hero will respond, "No human being can spin his or her head around. That's an anotomical impossibility. As your president, however, I will be looking in every direction for ways to fix our economy. You're right about the green stuff. Every time I look at the economic statistics I get sick to my stomach. As your president I'm going to get things done that help your families once again look forward to reading the morning headlines. You might remember them, we had a few about 8 years ago."

Or something like that. I am confident in The Big O. I'm still crabby-nervous about the block-the-vote-steal-the-vote cheaters. We are still in the danger zone. Remember, it ain't paranoia when you KNOW they're out to get you! :-)

What Begala Thinks Obama Is Doing to Consolidate his Gains Against McCain:

1. Counter-punching on Keating. It shows he’s strong and keeps the focus on the economy.

2. Staying cool. Not giving any ammo to the “scary” charge.

3. Staying away from the Sarah Palin Chronicles.

http://thepage.time.com/what-begala-thinks-obama-is-doing-to-consolidate-his-gains-against-mccain/

Peggy Noonan, as a guest on Hardball yesterday, fretted (quite sincerely) regarding the nastiness which she perceives arising from the partisanship in America. I'm paraphrasing, but her anxieties clearly were of the "What sort of America have we become?" variety.

Well, Peggy, pardon me for any lack of sympathy but, as with Kathleen Parker, you're not only too damned late to this epiphany, you arrive far too little cognizance regarding your own contributions to the problem.

True that. It kills me to see all these Repbulicans wringing their hands and bemoaning the nasty partisanship. Do they not remember their own Newt and GOPAC calling for demonizing Democrats?

NO, NO, NO. HE'S GOING TO CUT MEDICARE!!! MEDICARE!!! THAT'S LIKE CONCEDING FLORIDA. WHERE'S THE MEDICARE AD???!

[Sorry, I get a little worked up.]

I strongly share your mistrust for Brokaw and for the format and fear a repeat of the Stephanopoulos sham.
I do, however, have faith that Obama is most aware of this bias situation and has already mentally scrutinized how best to handle the situation and keep on task. He is extremely intelligent and competent organizer. You go Sen. Obama I have complete confidence in your ability to handle this known unfair situation.
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And somehow calling McCain erratic is a reference to his age. AP, NPR and others have been saying that today. I shouted at the radio when I heard that.
Erratic is not age-related. Erratic is as erratic does.

You are spot on. It clearly has more to do with the lingering effects of his captivity than his age. That's what the evil Kool Aid drinkers are implying.

I've noticed that too. In their never ending attempt to appear "fair", the media has been claiming that both sides are now taking the gloves off. They cite McCain's sleazy ads and then imply that Obama is just as bad because he says McCain is being erratic. Good lord.

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I don't think it will happen, but it seems like with his tanking poll numbers, the dismal economy, the recent Keating 5 ad, and Obama's presence, the factors are all there for McCain to actually display his famous temper at the debate tonight.

Perhaps Corsi will end up in a boiling caldron so the entire village can enjoy him for dinner,,,,,,,,, a la the cartoons of Ninteenth Century missionaries suffering such a fate.

That's pretty fucking offensive. Africans in general and Kenyans in particular are no more likely to live up to barbaric racist stereotypes than are white southern Americans who attend McCain-Palin rallies.

Actually, according to the AP article I read, Corsi was in Kenya at the invitation of "white missionaries." Something smells fishier than Todd Palin's salmon boat about this. You write a book about a Presidential candidate, it is quickly debunked so you go on a book tour in Africa and get arrested in the birthplace of the candidate's father?

Palin's blatant attempt to stir up the racist folk the last few days makes my stomach hurt. Seriously. This is scary and sad.

The Palin supporter yelling "Kill him!" and the McCain supporter yelling "Terrorist!" at their respective rallies yesterday scares the shit out of me. I am beginning to get really nervous that something might happen to O before the election. The McCain campaign is stirring up their redneck, evangelical, ultra-conservative base, and those are the people who have guns and aren't afraid to use them if it's "God's will". Ugh

What I find truly interesting is that the media does not call this out, instead they sit by and allow it to go unchallanged or wite a snarky piece like Milbank did in the Wapost.
The way thigs are getting in this country has caused me to buy more ammo and get ready for a clash that I see comming over the horizon.
I don't like it but I am afraid it is comming to that and republicans are the folks that are making it happen.
God help us!

You're on point, snake eater...when I read that article I didn't know which was more disturbing: that someone had screamed "kill him!" or that Dana Milbank wrote about the whole event as if it were a joke. I thought the McCain camp would dial down the rhetoric after yesterday, but today someone yelled "treason!" at Palin's rally. This is a dying campaign, and if the GOP was smart, they'd cut ties with McPalin or they're going to lose more seats than they expected.

The term Brown Shirts comes to mind. This is a terrifying vision. The Republicans are actually trying to stir up violence in a subtle way. It is not scorched earth, but sedition.

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If authorities would have waited a few more hours to detain Corsi they might have caught him with some underage boys but being such a big asshole can overwhelm authorities forcing them to detain that person faster.

Palin shows what a good uniter she'd be with her divisive comments just short of sedition. She's trash and has set about rabble rousing rather than offering a plan to deal with our nation's current crises. She mistakenly believes that because of a 3000 member crowd that the nation is behind her when in fact there are 30,000 waiting to shout her 3000 down. Encouraging supporters to demean the press and threaten violence?...This from a person wanting to be VP of our nation holding intolerance above rationality? She's rabble rousing, trying to foster a mob mentality. She is ignorance heightened to the level of celebration, enabling the worst of her supporter's natures. She pretends to be just like her supporters just as the very wealthy McCain pretends he's an average factory worker shopper. Palin is too stupid to see that she is exposing her true self as a reckless hypocrite phony and will be lucky to ever hold public office again. She is an insult to the average voter which she assumes is ignorant and easily led. That accounts for only a very small minority as she will learn shortly. I will be forever grateful for Couric accidentally exposing Palin's character during and after her interview. No way to spin the truth because it was sooooo apparent. Palin should not be allowed in Washington as anything other than a tourist.

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btw...why are these debates taking place in the south...Mississippi and Tennessee. When has either of these states ever been significantly relative to elections or have a population considered well informed. Besides, we are pretty much past the point where anything will be learned from these debates. I hope they are at least treated like discussions and not smack down wrestling matches.

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McCain's new ad was pretty bad with unsupported points. Obama's ad is very effective and undeniably true.

Do we have to make it unanimous to prevent election theft because it's almost there. Obama will win in a landslide if McCain/Palin don't just outright promote assassination of the opposition. Remember the head of the dem party in Arkansas shot to death by an anti-liberal reading right wing pundits. Even though they don't have the conscience, McCain/Palin should feel ashamed of themselves for promoting violence and trying to label their opposition as terrorist treason. They lie regardless of the possible consequences...it is indeed the proper passing of this neocon mentality as they lose power. The public will end up never wanting to see or hear from them again.

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