Conservative Group To Run Anti-Wright Ads On National Networks Through Election Day
Get ready for a deluge of Wright rantings.
The National Republican Trust PAC, which has been airing an ad attacking Barack Obama's association with Reverend Wright in three battleground states, has now put down for a national buy on five networks that will last from now through election day, a consultant with the group confirms to me.
The ad will run nationally on Fox, CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC for the next five days, the consultant, Rick Wilson, says -- "all the way until election day."
The ad, which you can watch here, features the now-infamous footage of Wright's livelier sermons, and intones that Obama "never complained" about Wright "until he ran for President," adding that Obama is "too radical, too risky."
Previously, the ad was only running in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, as Ben Smith reported the other day.
Now, however, the ad will run nationally, Wilson says, adding that the group just got through getting the spot vetted with network lawyers and is good to go.
Late Update: Wilson tells me that the PAC will have spent $2 million on this national buy by the end of tomorrow.
I didn't expect anything less.
October 30, 2008 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Neither did I, but it sure is disappointing not to be disappointed, you know?
October 30, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know the last Republican attacks are pretty embellished, but I'm half surprised they didn't come up with fake scandals. You know, like The Onion.
October 30, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who could tell the difference?
I guess they're saving this photo for Monday.
http://www.dequalss.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/obama-muslim.jpg
October 30, 2008 4:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where in the hell did that come from?
October 30, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where in the hell did that come from?
October 30, 2008 8:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
That picture came from his trip to Kenya two or three years ago. It's native garb and to wear it is a big honor from the locals. Guess you're not a fan of Stephen Colbert. He uses that shot often to make fun of Obama and it always gets a big laugh. :D
October 31, 2008 9:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
That picture came from his trip to Kenya two or three years ago. It's native garb and to wear it is a big honor from the locals. Guess you're not a fan of Stephen Colbert. He uses that shot often to make fun of Obama and it always gets a big laugh. :D
October 31, 2008 9:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I do know. I feel the same way.
*sigh*
I want to come out of this election willing to work with Repugs to move this country forward and they're making it impossible for me to want to do anything but see them totally humiliated and cast out of our system.
October 30, 2008 4:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
So can anyone tally up how much everbody has spent on the stupid Wright ads?
Between Hillary and McCain and the 3rd parties?
They aren't even working in Louisiana against dem candidates here.
I'm just wonderin' how much they've sent down the crapper on this one. But whatever: SPEND, BABY, SPEND! It's that much more of their dime that they toss out the window.
October 30, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's recap all the stunts that didn't work:
- Mentioning "The Surge" every day
- "Victory" in Iraq
- Calling Obama a "celebrity"
- Palin
- Suspend Campaign
- Save the Bailout package
- Joe the Plumber
- Socialist
- Marxist
- Rev. Wright
October 30, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Raising the "white flag of surrender!"
October 30, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are still plenty of morons out there who buy into this crap. :(
October 30, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Specifically the large and growing group catergorized as Evangelicals They basically do not think out their choice, they are told by their church leaders who to vote for. I have friends in this category and this is a known fact, not an assumption.
November 3, 2008 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
You don't know squat about Conservative Evangelicals or for that matter that a Pastor's right to free speech in making such recommendations is squashed do due commie-style laws.
WE, unlike liberals educate ourselves regardless of the political season. You Lefty-Lugies only show up with your half brain-ideas about who should lead this country when the Kool-aid is free.
November 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Specifically the large and growing group catergorized as Evangelicals They basically do not think out their choice, they are told by their church leaders who to vote for. I have friends in this category and this is a known fact, not an assumption.
November 3, 2008 8:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Such behavior tells me the GOP is looking for nothing less than a 12 year plus time out.
November 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Guess the time is coming when the country has become so polarized on so many issues that are just impossible to reconcile and now we will have nearly 50% of the population feeding out of the pockets of the other 50% that we should give serious consideration of ending these united states in order to establish two separate countries offering those who prefer socialism their own country and those preferring the liberties designed under the original constitution their own country.
November 6, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what does this say about John McCain. It screams to me that he is not a man of honor, but a fraud. A man that is willing to sink to the lows that were used against him when he ran against the current Bush.
I remember so clearly him stating that he would not use Wright, and that he wanted to run a clean and honorable campaign. I guess all his morals left the rooms when he aids told him we aren't the one's running the aid-- it’s from a PAC.
He wanted Sen. Obama to denounce those things that were disgusting and deliberately deceitful, yet he is willing to allow these types of aids to run with out speaking out against them loud and clear.
Sen. McCain this is a time when you can step up to the plate and forcefully condemn these aids and the types or racist and divisive undertones that have been on display in your campaign during the last months of this campaign. It’s your move… man with honor.
October 30, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The McCain campaign itself is not running this ad. It's a Political Action Committee (otherwise known as a 527 group) that isn't directly associated with McCain but does have an interest in seeing his opponent lose. It's the same type of group that ran the Swiftboat ads against Kerry four years ago.
This came up during the primaries and did some damage to Obama, although he managed to overcome it in the end. Will he be able to do so this time, especially since he's running against the party associated with American pride and toughness on defense and national security?
October 30, 2008 6:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
I predict it will tick off those decent American voters who may have felt ambiguous and send them racing off to vote for Obama. The right wing has already been saturated with Rev. Wright and other drek.
I think McCain's campaign is suicidal.
October 30, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Correction. The GOP party that used to be connected with love of country and heroism. They wasted their opportunity to stand tall and bring us all together when Bush and His Bushniks said two words after 9/11. "Go shop."
Can anyone imagine Powell or Schwartzkopf -- or Gen McArthur saying this at a time of national disaster?
Or of using the photos of our fellow Americans dying that day to try to win an election?
The GOP is gasping for its last breath.
October 30, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
GW's advice worked.
It kept the economy alive - that is until the DEMOCRATS defended FANNIE MAE's and FREDDIE MAC's accounting practices and of bullying lenders (with the help, of ACORN, I might add) into making risky loans to UNQUALIFIED individuals.
Republicans warned about the impending crisis as the Democrats kissed Mae & Mac's butts! The top three U.S. senators getting big Fannie and Freddie political bucks (ahem - bribes) were Democrats and No. 2 is Sen. Barack Obama. in spite of only being in the Senate for a very short time.
OH, by the way, that makes Obama and Pelosi BOTH LIARS when they say George Bush's policies are responsible for the current state of the economy.
November 2, 2008 9:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
C'mon, prove me wrong.
November 3, 2008 2:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Betcha" McCain and his "soul mate" will deny they had anything to do with this scurrulous and dishonest ad. McCain is such a coward and Power hungry Palin is, as they say in Texas,"Dumb as a box of rocks and mean as a two headed rattler."
But here is the Rolling Stone article McCain wants buried and for good reason.
WILL THE REAL JOHN MCCAIN PLEASE STAND UP?
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
A Navy vet whose pilot dad never crashed his own aircraft... I mean, three aircrafts... or killed his own shipmates... or got arreasted for abusing women...
October 30, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ummmm. Excuse me. Why condemn anyone who speaks the truth?
You, yourself said - and I quote: "He [McCain] wanted Sen. Obama to denounce those things that were disgusting and deliberately deceitful..."
The fact is that Sen. Obama lied about it. Who gives a rat's behind if he attended this church? Who gives a flip if he gave $27,000 to the ministry.
I just care about the lie he spoke in saying he did not know the pastor's philosophy. Him saying that is an insult to the collective intelligence of the American people.
How can you tell Obama is lying? His lips will be moving!
Thanks for listening.
November 3, 2008 3:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
And what does this say about John McCain. It screams to me that he is not a man of honor, but a fraud. A man that is willing to sink to the lows that were used against him when he ran against the current Bush.
I remember so clearly him stating that he would not use Wright, and that he wanted to run a clean and honorable campaign. I guess all his morals left the rooms when he aids told him we aren't the one's running the ad-- it’s from a PAC.
He wanted Sen. Obama to denounce those things that were disgusting and deliberately deceitful, yet he is willing to allow these types of aids to run with out speaking out against them loud and clear.
Sen. McCain this is a time when you can step up to the plate and forcefully condemn these aids and the types or racist and divisive undertones that have been on display in your campaign during the last months of this campaign. It’s your move… man with honor.
October 30, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what does this say about John McCain. It screams to me that he is not a man of honor, but a fraud. A man that is willing to sink to the lows that were used against him when he ran against the current Bush.
I remember so clearly him stating that he would not use Wright, and that he wanted to run a clean and honorable campaign. I guess all his morals left the rooms when he aids told him we aren't the one's running the ad-- it’s from a PAC.
He wanted Sen. Obama to denounce those things that were disgusting and deliberately deceitful, yet he is willing to allow these types of aids to run with out speaking out against them loud and clear.
Sen. McCain this is a time when you can step up to the plate and forcefully condemn these aids and the types or racist and divisive undertones that have been on display in your campaign during the last months of this campaign. It’s your move… man with honor.
October 30, 2008 5:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the sick irony of this ad. As an Arizona Senator, McCain voted against the Martin Luther King Jr. federal holiday. When the measure still passed, he voted to withdraw federal funding for the holiday.
And now they're going to invoke MLK on behalf of McCain???
Senator McCain, you need to take a closer look at the content of your own character. Hint: it's despicable.
October 30, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you saw McCain on The View, Whoopie Goldberg ATTACKED him on this issue. He confessed it was not a good decision. At least he has the character to admit his mistakes, unlike Obama who is such a narcissist he could never bring himself to admit he made a mistake (or lied as all too often the case.)
November 2, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
We all knew this was coming at some point but it is still disgusting. It's not like every American has not seen these videos literal dozens of times. I hope they backfire just like the Ayers crap.
October 30, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
We all knew this was coming at some point but it is still disgusting. It's not like every American has not seen these videos literal dozens of times. I hope they backfire just like the Ayers crap.
October 30, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
We all knew this was coming at some point but it is still disgusting. It's not like every American has not seen these videos literal dozens of times. I hope they backfire just like the Ayers crap.
October 30, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The second to last chapter of the Hillary Clinton playbook.
The last chapter, of course, is losing.
October 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seconded.
October 30, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
BINGO!
October 30, 2008 4:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bullshit. Hillary didn't run a single ad mentioning Wright. I challenge you to prove me wrong. She barely mentioned Wright at any time during the campaign. The Trinity Church pulpit was used to ridicule Hillary, including Wright miming Bill having sex. But it's out of bounds for her to say "He wouldn't be my pastor"? Please.
You guys keep repeating so much anti-Hillary crap that you don't even know what's true anymore. Oh, wait, I forgot, you've "forgiven" the Clintons. I'm surprised some of you can see to type through all the tears from that infomercial.
October 30, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
hehe...
October 30, 2008 4:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
So I take it by your witty response that you agree with my point? Or are you so far gone in your Obama worship that the truth no longer has relevance to you?
October 30, 2008 5:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
So I take it by your witty response that you agree with my point? Or are you so far gone in your Obama worship that the truth no longer has relevance to you?
October 30, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nope, just snickering at your childish outburst.
November 3, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary wouldn't dare run an anti-Obama ad with Rev. Wright when both her and her husband were pals with the guy. A point that the MSM did not report on at all.
But those like me here remember the circulated internet images of Wright and Bill Clinton and Wright sitting with Hillary Clinton.
I don't doubt for a minute that Rev. Wright was a secret Clinton ploy dropped originally from the news source they had close connections with. The Rev. Wright story originally broke by ABC News more than a year ago with George Stephanopoulos who was a former Clinton White House press secretary. Stephanopoulous got his day at the ABC democratic primary debate this year when he asked Obama "Who loves America more, you or Rev. Wright?".
October 31, 2008 7:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
Is Wright running for something?
Well, I wouldn't be voting for him, but I am voting for Obama!
October 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd vote for him, but then I'm a lefty. ;)
October 30, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's Wright, they're wrong, we win!
October 30, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
It would have been news if they didn't. Losers.
http://pufferfish.typepad.com/
October 30, 2008 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, however, the ad will run nationally, Wilson says, adding that the group just got through getting the spot vetted with network lawyers and is good to go.
That gets vetted by NBC, but the ads questioning McCain's health isn't allowed on NBC?
Yep... the Media is out to get John McCain.
John
October 30, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. O'Reilly glares and they shit their pants.
October 30, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. The Old scumbag can die a moment after the inaugral for all we know.
MSM better not screw this up.
October 30, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's to vett about McCain's health? People survive Melanoma all the time. One of my friends has a scar 6 inches long on her back from a removal of melanoma 25 YEARS AGO.
Yeah, Obama has a "note" from his doctor, but then his campaign has enough money to pay his doc's malpractice insurance for 10 years. After all, Obama lied about committing to public campaign financing, so he could get a bag of goodies from his despot friends?
McCain's Mom is still alive in her mid/late 90's. How old did Obama's mother live? TO FIFTY-TWO! I think our hero has very, very good genes.
November 2, 2008 9:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eight years of humiliation and all you need are a tape from a crazy pastor and Al-Q.
What a country?
October 30, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
How predictable.
October 30, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
You know what I mean. Almost always, every election comes down to something absolutely irrelavent and often a lie.
I'm not saying it will fully work this time but why do you think a Wright Ad or an Al-Q tape are used in political campaigns?
We're a country busy self destructing.
I believe this time there will be sufficient number of people opposing or ignoring these tactis, but that doesn't mean there aren't millions who base their votes on crap like this.
October 30, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yawn.
October 30, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully it works as well for them here as it did last spring in Mississippi.
October 30, 2008 4:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or at least as well as it seems to be working for 'em in PA, FL, and OH.
October 30, 2008 4:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
5 days to go and they STILL can't give a reason to vote FOR them, only reasons to vote against Obama.
October 30, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, Here's one.
We need a
PRESIDENT
not a
LIAR IN CHIEF
November 2, 2008 9:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, here's one:
WE NEED A PRESIDENT
NOT A LIAR IN CHIEF
November 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
It doesn't matter.
The desperation is so obvious it draws more laughs than shrieks.
October 30, 2008 4:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
It seems like it will just mix in with the rest of the noise, at this point. I feel like we're in the "Wall of Sound" phase of the election.
October 30, 2008 4:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wall of sound - I like that. That's very well said.
October 30, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
...and look where that got Phil Spector.
October 30, 2008 5:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
With the amount of money Obama is spending on TV ads, I don't think this Rev Wright ad will appear too much.
BTW, what is the amount of the ad buy?
October 30, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
$700,000. I think.
October 30, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know the $$$ amount, but I ain't telling you because you can't handle the truth about how much support there really is for McCain.
November 3, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even if this were to be effective, it's too late. Obama has enough of the lead built up with early voters, and enough people are turning out, that even if they managed to close the popularity gap, McCain would still have a bloody impossible time pulling off a victory.
October 30, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well yes.
We've been through this already anyway.
October 30, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
mcShame is determined to go down in Infamy! What else is new?
October 30, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd hoped that he'd wizen up, and end the campaign in style.
But no, it's going to be mud to the end. When the books come out later and he's blaming his advisors, who's going to tell him to shut the hell up? And when he tells people that he's proud of this campaign, when will the bolt of lightning strike him? What a pitiful man he is.
October 30, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
If only Obama would have agreed to the 10 town hall meetings.
October 30, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
With the amount of money Obama is spending on TV ads, I don't think this Rev Wright ad will appear too much.
BTW, what is the amount of the ad buy?
October 30, 2008 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's from a group with "Republican" in their name, instead of "Freedom" or "Family"? They must really be getting desperate not to even try to hide the fact that they're a GOP front group for evading election law.
October 30, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Say - have y'all seen the story at HuffPo? Coleman has filed a suit against Franken for defamation of character.
October 30, 2008 4:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I saw that just a moment ago. What a loser.
October 30, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
A Republican suing for defamation of character is just ridiculous.
October 30, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL. It sounds funny when you say it like that. Coleman of all people.
October 30, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Coleman has character? Who knew??
October 30, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
DEFACATION of character is more like it!
October 30, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
He would have won the case if he sued himself.
October 30, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, in other words, McCain is releasing a "Best Hits of the 2008 Race" album?? Hey, we all know what happened when Van Halen released a Greatest Hits album too soon! I miss you, Sammy!
October 30, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently it is ridiculous. Coleman has filed 4 such suits in 4 elections.
I should have kept reading before I posted it.
October 30, 2008 4:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorta like the boy who cried "Wolf! Wolf!" I hope Minnesota will just ignore that clown.
October 30, 2008 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
How much are they spending on it?
October 30, 2008 4:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Crap. Here goes another $100 to Obama campaign. I thought I was done.
October 30, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel ya. I sent another two-fiddy last night.
I'm beyond broke at this point. LOL!
October 30, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
At this point, $2.50 would break me too.
November 3, 2008 12:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I live in California. I will just have to change the channel when this Wright ad comes on.
October 30, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCains supporters are aiming for truth, not Neilsen ratings like narcissist Obama.
November 3, 2008 12:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was watching the football game and saw the ad while fast-forwarding through commercial advertisements. There was a time when I felt offended by that smear, but last night it was just comic relief.
In fact, it gave me a whole new perspective to the election. If, indeed, attacks of any kind can win an election, let alone a very important election, then there really is nothing left to do but to laugh at the farce.
Who was it that said that our only weapon against fear and hate is laughter? The way to rid ourselves of those who keep wielding these zero sum tactics is to laugh them off of the stage. When we allow them to anger us, to cower us, we grant them power.
I've personally recognized the need for transformation in my own life several times by seeing myself as ludicrous and having a good laugh. While undertaking the arduous task of reorganizing my life, it has been laughter that provides the energy.
November 3, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Greg, please be advised it would be useful if you can post a few lighter threads along with the serious business for the next few days.
Anything to help relieve the stress.
Like McDumbFuck calling on Joe-MIA-Plumber in Ohio. Front page news at Huffpo.
I must say, while Huffpo doesn't always represent the hard reality, they never miss you it make you feel better.
On Huffpo, McCain is a disaster of epic proportions every moment. LOL.
October 30, 2008 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fuck the National Republican Trust PAC. This is the type of thing that makes us vote for Barack:
http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-flatobama1030.artoct30,0,7881722.story
Thanks to Kos for linking to it.
John
"Mommy, when I'm 18 I get to vote."
-Aron Mondschein
October 30, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
O thanks for that link - I loved that story. Obama is the only one to answer those letters and he sends 3 pages worth of answer to those kids.
October 30, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's a really sweet note. Flat Stanley helps Obama not be nervous.
October 30, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does he ever say the wrong thing?
Goddamn!
That line just killed me dead.
October 30, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aaaaawwww.
Ya know, when my neice was 4 years old, she was convinced that Santa Clause fixed the wheel on her favorite toy wagon, too.
That is sweet. God Bless those innocent children.
What excuse you you have for believing in Santa Clause?
November 3, 2008 12:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can we have something other than this Wright ad at the top of this page. I agee with Kash79. Place something lighter up such as Joe-MIA-Plumber in Ohio.
October 30, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know this is a different thread, but how come HuffPo, Politico, etc. haven't had any mention of the Al Qaida web video yet? I thought this would be INSTANT news! Huge!
I just checked and still nothing...then again, it could be up by now.
October 30, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is more preaching to the rightwing choir and is unlikely to move any undecideds.
Rave on.
October 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully the media will ask Elisabeth Hasslebeck what she thinks about this matter. I reserve judgementations until then.
October 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. Just Wow.
No, not the ad.
Can anyone believe the Republican strategist are getting paid or this? I mean did anyone, and I mean ANYONE, not see this coming. There is no shock value. No buzz. This will just get lumped with all the other wacky Republican stunts.
October 30, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I pray, literally, that this is the last gasp of the racially divisive, hate-driven Nixon/Rove crap that this country has endured for the past 40 years. We absolutely have to destroy that GOP playbook once and for all.
More $$ on the way to Obama as a result of this. What a contrast: Obama's beautiful message last night, and the GOP's continuing attempt to make us all hate one another and perpetuate the cultural civil war that has torn this country apart for 40 years. It's fucking evil.
October 30, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Co-sign. Exactly how I feel about this whole thing. I'm not surprised or shocked -- we all saw this coming, it's too predictable. I'm just saddened and mad.
October 30, 2008 4:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
McWar has decided to be remembered as despicable, racist and he has no honor left.
October 30, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
The GOP: Fightin' yesterday's culture war today!
They really should just skip this step with Wright and jump straight to the openly racist garbage. Save us some time.
October 30, 2008 4:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's pathetic how the Right Wing has come to see using Rev. Wright as their only path victory. They and the McCain campaign are intellectually and morally bankrupt.
October 30, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Erline:
Let's recap all the stunts that didn't work:
- Mentioning "The Surge" every day
- Victory in Iraq
- Calling Obama a "celebrity"
- Palin
- Suspend Campaign
- Save the Bailout package
- Joe the Plumber
- Socialist
- Marxist
- Rev. Wright
October 30, 2008 4:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
As I mentioned elsewhere, I am not convinced that the Wright story has ever been particularly damaging to Obama, the gallons of press-ink spilled on this subject notwithstanding. The Wright story broke a week after the Ohio and Texas primaries - roughly 7 weeks before the PA primary. At the time the story broke, Obama was more than 20 pts behind Clinton in PA. He finished less than 10 pts behind her. From there he went on to finish ahead of her Guam, North Carolina, Oregon and Montana, just as everyone had predicted he would months before the Wright story broke. She went on to finish ahead of him in Indiana (albeit only just), West Virginia, Kentucky, Puerto Rico and South Dakota. Of those, the only unexpected result was South Dakota, but by the same token she was never able to make good on her promise that North Carolina would be an upset, despite the circulation of the Wright story.
So, where exactly is the evidence that the Wright story made a difference? Are we to understand that, despite the fact that everyone, starting months before the Wright story broke, predicted Clinton to win PA handily, had it not been for the Wright story Obama would have upset Clinton there? I think that the importance of Jeremiah Wright has been greatly exaggerated.
October 30, 2008 5:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. So let them waste more time and money on this garbage. Apparently, they believe the "culture wars" can still win them the election despite the 2006 congressional races and all the polls.
October 30, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I'll one up your Wright thesis and claim that the effect of the bin Laden tape in 2004 was exaggerated as well.
October 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it had an effect. The thing is that the effect was short term. That is why I did not expect this line of attack sooner. The Republicans are banking on a short term bounce in the polls to last just until the election.
The problem is that everyone saw this coming and its old news. The effect, if any, will be minimal. I also assume that Obama has a counter attack ad (Hagee?) all queued up and ready to go if need be.
October 30, 2008 5:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Gosh, one would be hard pressed to find evidence of it if it did. About the same time that the Wright story broke, Quinnipiac had Clinton up by 12 pts in PA. When they released their next poll two weeks later, they had Clinton up by only 9 pts. Similarly, a Rasmussen poll of PA democrats showed Clinton up by 13 a week before the Wright story broke, but only up by 10 a week after Wright hit the headlines. Even in the short term, in other words, Obama's numbers held strong. It seems to me that the evidence would suggest that the only folks who were put-off by the Wright tapes were folks who were already sour on Obama to begin with (the Matthew Weavers of the world).
October 30, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
But the polls you're referring to were of Democratic voters, correct? Now we're talking about an election pretty much riding on independents and low info voters who may never before have heard of Rev. Wright, or weren't paying much attention when they did. The anti-American theme has been well prepped by the GOP by now, and Wright fits right into that, almost as the clincher "argument". What's more, Obama turned around the last Rev. Wright assault in part by giving his famous race speech, which completely wowed the MSM. There's no time for him to do that again. Finally, in the end he did lose PA to Hillary, and if he drops five or six points between now and Tues. he might well lose it again. (Gov. Rendell thinks Obama really has only about a six point lead now and has been appealing to him to return to the state.) BTW, who says Obama might not have won PA had no the Wright scandal broke? Curious as to your response?
October 30, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am an Independent
I am for McCain.
We are everywhere! Be afraid, be very afraid. The Kool-aid is wearing off.
November 3, 2008 3:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
OOOOOOHHHHH YOU ARE SOOOOOOOO NOT ELIGIBLE FOR COMMUNION!
BARACK OBAMA,
CHAMPION OF
PLANNED PARENTHOOD SAID:
“I don’t want them (his daughters) punished with a baby”
youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg
I'M CALLING THE POPE!!!
November 2, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
OH, BTW: Margaret “Negro Project” Sanger Would Have Loved Barack Obama
Talk about a hateful orginization!
November 2, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, AMV, to a large extent. This ad disgusts me much more than it worries me. The contrast between it (and make no mistake, it's an implicit/complicit McCain ad) and Obama's positive, uplifting message of reconciliation and purpose last night is yet one more reason why this election feels so apocalyptic to me.
October 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
IF any one cared, we could do the same with Palin's "witch doctor"... but who cares!!!!
October 30, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
NRT you are joke !!! Senator McCain you are NOT INNOCENT.
Your campaign advisor was a Saddam Hussein lobbyist for 5 years.
You pal around with Gordon Liddy, domestic terrorist.
You are a member of "The Project for a New American Century" - a radical extremist terrorist orginization.
Your VP candidate's husband Todd Palin is a domestic terrorist in the Alaskan Independence Party.
You have given $500,000 to PLO, a group that McCain himself says are terrorists.
You have met with Chilean Dictator Pinochet, a terrorist.
Your using FOX NEWS, the Bush Administration, The Justice Department to commit voter intimidation & suppression is a act of terrorism. DISGRACEFUL.
October 30, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are obviously reading the Iranian Times News.
November 3, 2008 3:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
5 MORE DAYS...
http://devonrex.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c2252b27488e1d00c2252a5ad7f219.html
October 30, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
ZZZzzzzz...Wright is old news. Get over it rethugs!
October 30, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Even Rev Wright has been more vetted than Sarah Palin....He fought honorably in the same war that McCain was POW in. There is a picture online of him perfoming surgically to President Johnson. He has attended White House Functions. He just never got completely over his 60's anger and pain.
If we think we're seeing sick racism now perputrated toward Barack (some of us see it), just imagine what it had to have been like in the 60's for Wright.
Instead of being treated like the war hero that he was, as McCain has been treated, he was treated with the same (and actually 1000 times worst) as what racial predjudiceness is today...In those days it was done in your face with no protectors, not just on a blog or via rally noise.
October 30, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for this...
October 30, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh... no... the liberal mainstream media sent cadres of their minions to Alaska to dig up dirt within hours of the announcement she would be John McCains running mate. Don't you read the news? I know you can type the words for the blog, but do you really understand what they mean?
Aaanywaaay... they dug up that she likes to hunt... Oh... BTW...PETA has be strangely silent about this. I wonder if they think Barack's support of infanticide trumps the hunting of moose?
Oh, and then there's - drumroll please - Troopergate. Only thing is, she was completely within her EXECUTIVE priveledge - not that you supporters or Barack Obama for that matter really know anything about Executive Priveledge - to fire the supervisor. You see he was excercising insubordination. She needed to get tough, and she did.
Oh and then there is the pregnant daughter. Sigh. Strange, Bristol Palin and her boyfried do not feel that they are being "punished by a baby." Welcoming this beautiful life into the world and sticking together as a family. Hmmmmm...Barack Obama would rather kill his grandchild than have his daughters "punished by a baby." What's up is down and what's down is up in ObamaWorld. Where is the puke bag - QUICK!
Oh, crap...Then there is the thing about Alaskan independence...Dang...We wanted to seceed from the nation when I was growing up in the Florida Keys, too. The Conch Republic! Wee Hooo...
Duh... we were trying to make a point, not draw a border. You see, some stupid Democrat wanted to charge a toll on the 18-mile stretch leading into the Keys. They were the Johnny-Come-Latelys that did not want it to be cheap for visitors to enter their newly found paradise. Selfish bastards. But then this is akin to Barack's plan for the economy. You see, in those days, a toll on the stretch in the 70's would have killed tourism and the very fabric of the Keys' economy.
Then there is this "defective" kid of theirs (Michelle probably would have aborted.) Surely there was some news in that situation. They wanted to believe that the kid was Bristol's. Well then...that twin of Trig's is sure taking his or her time in making an entrance to the world! Get a grip, people!
Sarah Palin has been viciously attacked by you dip wads and the mainstream media. Relentlessly.
So, don't cry for me, Argentina, move to Venezuela already.
November 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
When the members of the GOP slink back into their lair next Wednesday to lick their collective wounds, perhaps they will consider that the Night of the Long Knives created by Lee Atwater and perfected by Carl Rove, is over. Except for the hate-filled fringe Right, no one wants to hear this bile any longer.
October 30, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I ask anti-Wright people sometimes to give examples of how Wright is racist, which is often their claim. They never respond. It seems as though the common assumption now is that he must be racist because he's angry or because people don't know what black liberation theology is. It's absurdly tiresome to see this degenerate into the common sentiment. People would rather assume it's all race hatred rather than even read up on black liberation theology. There's reasons someone can be upset with Wright or cautious towards him but accusations of racism ore false, lazy, and naive.
October 30, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
He is Anti-American (needs to move to Cuba)
He has - as T.D. Jakes would say - a bunch of JUNK in his TRUNK. In other words a VERY BITTER man, mired in the past.
He claims Jesus as his savior, but acts as if HIS ranting and raving can save black people by teaching the a false gospel of hate and divisiveness as opposed to hope and reconciliation, thereby keeping his "flock's" TRUNKS filled with JUNK.
This I hear from BLACK friends and acquaintances who are VOTING FOR MCCAIN.
ANY QUESTIONS?
November 2, 2008 10:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bankrupt bottom-feeders... all they are saying is
"We have nothing to offer"
"We are rotten to the core"
October 30, 2008 6:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
No ideas.
No plan.
No vision.
Nothing but slime.
October 30, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hope if they bring in Wright again they show Palin with her minister who says democrats will go to hell and her witch doctor giving her his blessings. They can show everythingon McCains supporters Rev. John Hagee, that man is also nuts. How about Rod Parsley also who is obsessed with the Apocalypse?
October 30, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is so SAD that McCain will do and say ANYTHING in an attempt to "win". John, putting your COUNTRY FIRST or putting John FIRST????
He claims to be a maverick yet he has been around TRASHY POLITICS so long that he has forgotten what it felt like to when Bush and Rove used this kind of crap against him.
Where are your ethics McCain? Here it is 2008, you hope to lead this country, yet you FAIL to grasp AMERICA is TIRED of these shanangans!!!
October 30, 2008 6:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps the Wright ads will help dispel the notion that Senator Obama is a muslim?
October 30, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eventually people will catch on to the contradictions?
October 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eventually people will catch on to the contradictions?
October 30, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama and his campaign are terrified of this fact and so is the Mainstream Media. Why? Well, they realize that if Americans knew that Barrack Hussein Obama had Muslim upbringing of any kind that they would be less inclined to vote for him. Unless they looked at America as evil and Islamic terrorists as victims and saw electing a President with a Muslim background as an ' apology' and/or appeasement to the Muslim world. A way of saying 'We-re sorry for supporting Israels all these years' and 'Please don't bomb us or try to kill us - we're afraid of you. Please like us, please.'
Complete and irrefutable proof is at http://www.obamaspast.com/popups_facts/indonesia.html
At the time, January of 1968, Obama was known as Barry Soetoro. His mother was remarried by then to Lolo Soetoro who became Barry's step-father and adoptive father. Lolo was a devout Muslim and so was Obama's mother who had gone from Ann Dunham to Ann Soetoro. The word for religion in Indonesian is 'agama.' Item 4 on this registration document for Barry Soetoro is clearly written as b Islam.b There are no records of Obama ever having been a Christian or practiced Christrianity until 1988 when he was 27 and joined the Trinity Chuch of God, led by Jerimiah Wright. A church, by the way, that gave a Lifetime Achievement award to Louis Farrakan, the founder and leader of the Nation of Islam.
youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w
November 3, 2008 3:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama always knew this was coming and he's prepared for it. I sure wish Obama would come out with a surprise last minute punch at McCain and knock him off his feet.
October 30, 2008 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rev. Wright has run his course, so the GOP can't hurt him nor Sen. Obama. Your attacks will NOT prevail, and these two men of God will be vindicated by their Savior.
I rebuke all of your tactics in the name and blood of Jesus and send this and all others back to the pit of hell where it all belongs ! I plead the blood of Jesus for Barack, his family, and his campaign daily !
Not any of McCain's WEAK campaign attacks of hatred, fear, racism, and division WILL NEVER PREVAIL against Sen. Obama - this nation's next Commander-in-Chief !!!
No weapon forged against you [ Barack Obama] will prevail, and you [ Barack Obama] will refute every tongue that accuses you [ Barack Obama] . This is the heritage of the servants [ Barack Obama] of the LORD, and this is their [ Barack Obama] vindication from me," declares the LORD. - Isaiah 54:17
" I [ God ] will send my terror ahead of you [ Barack Obama] and throw into confusion every nation you [ Barack Obama] encounter. I [ God ] will make all your [ Barack Obama] enemies turn their backs and run." - Exodus 23:27
They will fight against you [ Barack Obama] but will not overcome you, for I [God ] am with you [ Barack Obama] and will rescue you," declares the LORD. - Jeremiah 1:19
The Lord will rescue me [ Barack Obama] from every evil attack and will bring me [ Barack Obama] safely to his heavenly kingdom. - 2 Timothy 4:18
11 For he will command his angels concerning you [ Barack Obama] to guard you [ Barack Obama ] in all your ways; 12 they will lift you [ Barack Obama ] up in their hands, so that you [ Barack Obama ] will not strike your [his] foot against a stone. 13 You [ Barack Obama ] will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you [ Barack Obama ] will trample the great lion and the serpent. - Psalm 91:11-13
I have given you [ Barack Obama ] authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you [ Barack Obama ]. - Luke 10:19
It's time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It's time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It's time for REAL change in Washington, it's time to elect Barack Obama for president !
Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !
Amen.
October 30, 2008 7:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jesus would not support a perpetrator of infanticide.
"the least of these"
November 2, 2008 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is just another reason that American public will not vote for McCain. How can he run a respectable Presidency when he can't run a respectable campaign?
I know he will just shrug and put on a silly grin when he is questioned about this and will just say he has no control over these private ads. Just as he does when Palin or some other member of his campaign does something low. I found it interesting that Obama put on a half hour ad and never mentioned McCain, but McCain can't go two sentences without telling us what a horrible person Obama is. BTW what does McCain stand for besides being against Obama?
October 30, 2008 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Time for Peace & Equality!!!
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October 30, 2008 7:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know, Obama is above playing tit-for-tat, but isn't this the time to start asking palin questions about the witch doctor fanatic/preacher she subscribes to?
October 30, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
What does Obama have to use in reply?
I've seen it said that Wright is right about this: The evil done by American leaders damns America. That's probably too radical as stated.
October 30, 2008 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
thank you eds. People have focused on the sensational without really listening to his point. I don't agree with everything he says. But, I don't fully disagree with everything he says either.
October 30, 2008 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find it interesting that you gloss over and dismiss the teaching of this "reverend" but when Sarah Palins says...
"Pray for our military. He's [Palin's son Trask] going to be deployed in September to Iraq. Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do also what is right for this country - that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan.
"
...you cry foul and run around calling her too radical to lead.
What a bunch of hipocrites you are.
November 3, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
And yes, Obama bought into and fully committed himself to this radically negative – some might say false - gospel. Twenty years, $27,000 invested in Wrights church. Then Obama LIES about not knowing the Theology of Black Liberation that was being taught and is a very narrow view of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ:
James Cone, a prominent Black Liberation Theologian, believed that the New Testament revealed Jesus as one who identified with those suffering under oppression, the socially marginalized and the cultural outcasts. And since the socially constructed categories of race in America (i.e., whiteness and blackness) had come to culturally signify dominance (whiteness) and oppression (blackness), from a theological perspective, Cone argued that Jesus reveals himself as black in order to disrupt and dismantle white oppression.
He also said that Martin Luther King's Theology did not focus enough on his "blackness." The Bible teaches that there is no respecter of persons with God: "For there is no respect of persons with God," Paul declared (Rom. 2: 11). The Scriptures emphasize repeatedly that God is not judging or treating man, any man, with respect of persons. In other words, God is just and equitable in his dealings with man. i.e. - God does not see color.
What the Bible teaches is that though God is sovereign; man still has real responsibility and freedom in the choices he makes. This was another one of the tenets of Martin Luther’s King’s teachings. And it is MLK’s teaching of this that began to turn the mindset of black and white alike. White people had the responsibility to respect people without regard to color. And black people should practice self-respect and self responsibility.
I don't question that there is a history of oppression in this country. I am a repentant white person. But in a country where opportunity abounds, Wright continues to teach a theology of victimization instead of the freedom that comes from self responsibility. He teaches a gospel that would continue the division between black and white into perpetuity if he has his way. His way; not God’s way.
Because he is keeping his flock in a mindset of victimization, the fruit that is born of his teaching is one of entitlement. THAT is Obama's platform. He learned it from Wright. Then he LIED saying he did not know Wright's theology.
November 3, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Who better to explain this concept than a black man...Just came into my mailbox. Has already been vetted by Snopes
Why I (A Black Man) Can't Vote For Obama
I wanted to send this article from Huntley Brown - he is a fabulous concert pianist, man of God and is a black man. We met him years ago when we were doing a T.V. program in Chicago and we have stayed connected through the years. I appreciate so much his reasoning for not voting for Obama. I would like to see this article published or spread out via Email to as many as possible. It's good stuff!
Why I Can't Vote For Obama By Huntley Brown
Dear Friends,
A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it's worth repeating...
First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.
Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is the leader.
I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning to name a few, wrong, economic concerns will soon not matter.
We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the color of his skin but by the content of their character. I don't know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.
NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
To beat Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100 % rating.
There is a reason the homosexual community supports him.
There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him.
There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court.
There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill.
There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage.
There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion.
There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.
Letsʼ take a look at the practice he wanted to continue
The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:
A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby)
B. The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal .
C. The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.
D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.
God help him.
There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.
Think about this: You can't give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane.
There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.
Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now?
Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 "Go and make disciples of all nations." This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?
Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a
1. Commitment to the White Community
2. Commitment to the White Family
3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community.
5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.
This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.
A church can't have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if itsʼ a white church or a black church it's still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.
Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him."
Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?
So what does all this mean for the nation?
In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing - judgment.
Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 1:9 "Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do."
Then God says
1 Samuel 1:18 " When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day." 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles." 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king."
Here is what we know for sure.
God is not schizophrenic
He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God.
Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.
For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say; Father based on your Word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion. He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against You. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy.
I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends.
Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the nation,
1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation.
2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the nation?
Blessings,
Huntley Brown
November 3, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink