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Arizona State U. Poll: McCain Barely Ahead In Home State

Is it possible that John McCain could lose his home state of Arizona, which has only voted Democratic once in the last 50 years? A new poll from Arizona State University puts McCain ahead, but also suggests that an Obama win is not at all out of the question.

The numbers: McCain 46%, Obama 44%, within the ±3% margin of error. The previous ASU poll from a month ago put McCain up 45%-38%.

Other recent polling has shown a close race, too. Rasmussen has McCain up 51%-46%, down from a 59%-38% lead a month ago.

McCain should still be seen as the favorite to win Arizona, but it's certainly not a good sign for him that any poll even has it close right now.


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What?  No more money in the kitty for TV ads in AZ?

Get Cindy in here with her checkbook!

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If he starts feeling threatened but has some money to spare, what would he do? The old man may be "too proud" to play defense at his home...

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as a proud AZ democrat, it's not hard to see why he's behind even in his OWN STATE!

basically, you'd be NUTS to vote for him if you're from Arizona, or if you're Republican, or if you value economic security!

here's why:

http://tv1.com/playlists/show/11


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Now wouldn't that be something?


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this is third or fourth Arizona Poll with Obama and McShame within the margin of error. I would to see Obama make a play for Arizona.

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this is the third or fourth Arizona Poll with Obama and McShame within the margin of error. I would to see Obama make a play for Arizona.

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add insult to injury. please have your last rally in phoenix.

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A week ago or so I read at kos that a reputable local pollster there predicted a much close race on the election day. Posters from Arizona also said Obama's ground game is in full swing there as well. Too few poll results to say anything with confidence, but it would be a soul-killing loss for McScum.

God I would LOVE to see that happen.

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You got to think that the only reason Arizona is red is because it's McCain's state. All its neighbors are blue (well except Utah).

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I grew up in Arizona. It is mostly red and has been for decades. Barry Goldwater ring a bell?

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I'm talking about 2008. See map in upper right corner of page.

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So am I. Arizona has more in common with Utah than its other neighbors. It has the largest concentration of Mormons outside of Utah. My brother is Democratic staff in the state house, he's been on the minority side for decades. They occasionally elect a Democrat for governor like Bruce Babbitt or Janet Napolitano, but it's a red state at heart. They've had 2 Republican senators for many cycles as well.

But you are right, flipping AZ blue would be HUGE.


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I grew up there too. There are a lot of Mormons, particularly in the northern part of the state. But they've been overwhelmed by the new population of the state. And, hey, the Udalls are Mormon, so don't count them all as red!

I think the state has changed demographically a lot like Colorado and New Mexico. It would likely be blue if it weren't McCain's home state. I expect he'll win it, but making it even close is a hell of a moral victory for Obama. But what do I know - I'm from Tucson which was ALWAYS liberal. I worked on Mo Udall's '76 presidential campaign as one of a group of home town high school kids that they shipped out to a few primary states during spring break. In those days, Tucson was an outlier, but I suspect Phoenix is much more like that now as well and a LOT of the population of the state is in those two metro areas.

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Both Udall and Goldwater clans predates Arizona's change from territory to statehood. So both family's have heavy political pull regardless of their political affiliation.

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Maybe you haven't been here in awhile. I'm originally from NY, but I've been here for 13 years now, and AZ has turned a bluish purple. In 2006 went from 6-2 Republican House reps to 4-4.

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You must not have paid any attention to Goldwater after 1980, when he started criticizing Reagan for his budget deficits and ended up condemning his own party for its abandonment of genuine conservative principles and its shredding of the Constitution's guarantees of secular government.

See Conservatives Without Conscience, by John Dean.

If voters in Arizona really are Goldwater Republicans, they'll vote for Obama in a landslide.

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Yes -- the changing demographics in the South West. Some people are saying even Texas is in play. They won't vote for Obama this time, probably, but it may be much closer. And it may not be far-fetched to expect it to turn blue in a decade.

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This IS the reputable local pollster, Dr. Bruce Merrill of Arizona State University.

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Yes, that was the name I saw at kos. Thanks!

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Also, a retirement state, obviously, except the retirees are becoming a new generation now, and partied through the sixties, with some great memories. I see this state slipping away from the Republican stronghold.

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McCain 46%, Obama 44%...  The previous ASU poll from a month ago put McCain up 45%-38%.

Now that's tightening I can believe in!

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Good one.. Damn that "tightening" narrative

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MCCAIN HAS HIM RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS HIM!!

(I think this should really be the new Idiotic catchphrase)

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Good one!

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+1

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MHHRWHWH ???

Can I buy a few vowels, please?

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Holy Fuck. This would be a real "crater." Any info any folks have on Obama game in AZ are welcome to post their opinions.

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Two friends just walked for Obama this weekend. A union member and my other friend was her driver. They had fun, but I don't know what the reception was like here in Tucson, which is a blue-ish oasis in a red state anyway. However, my impression is that the unions here in Tucson are going all out for Obama on general principles. I don't know what is going on in the Phoenix area.

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If you live on or near the border (Texas to California), you would know there is a large/huge latino population. And it reaches up to Nevada and Colorado. Since McCain has reneged on his immigration stand, he's lost the whole enchilada with them. They may be enough of a force to swing Texas and Arizona from red to blue. They just don't want to draw attention to themselves so we have to wait-n-see on election day.

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Mom lives in Tucson. She says a lot of Obama Biden yard signs have been popping up in her retirement community south of Tucson (Green Valley). Snow birds are descending, bringing their left leaning ways with them.

Obama's taking 41 states and Arizona is one of em.

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In Green Valley, that is something. I suspect they have seen some of their retirement funds disappear, people can only be Republicans when times are good. Glad to hear this.

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Winning Arizona would be so awesome but I would expect McCain to have the ability to steal it if necessary. It would be like trying to take Texas from Bush.
But in 2012, when hopefully Obama is running for re-election, I think we might could get Arizona and Texas.

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OT, but I just now read an article of US News about PA, titled "Why John McCain Continued to Trail Barack Obama in PA." An interesting piece, so I'm pasting it for people who may have missed it.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/10/27/why-john-mccain-continues-to-trail-barack-obama-in-pennsylvania.html

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(I mean the poll part, the first half).

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Kurt Davis of McCain campaign states: "John McCain will win Arizona. He's won every election he's run here in Arizona since 1982," Davis said.

That is true, but it also was not the John McCain we are seeing now. I suspect he will hold AZ, but not by much. They are just starting to feel the effects of the economy now. My friend in Glendale (Phoenix) said his company has no forthcoming contractual bids, and when he does bid, he will do so at no profit just to keep his employees covered for their health care and retirement accounts. He cares about his workers. BTW, he is voting for Obama.

Tucson is more blue, UA helps with that, employs a lot of people, plus all the students. Obama should win Pima County I believe.

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Seems no one has yet taking into account McCain is so anti-earmark that he wouldn't even consider helping his own state out. Senator Kyl has had to do all the footwork in that area. So Arizonians have to ask themselves what has McCain done for them to deserve their support? After all, that's why he's in Washington ... to look after their interest, not his.

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What I don't understand, is: How on Earth can TPM averages be shrinking (Obama at +6.2 today) and Arizona is shading into pink and maybe purple territory? Either the national polls are right in tightening or the state polls are right.

Someone must be wrong.

Maybe everyone is wrong.

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But it is all the EV that counts now. I agree though, it is odd.

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State polls lag a bit and Arizona really has not been polled much until lately. There could have been a lot of movement in October that went unnoticed.

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Also, it could simply be that the base is solidifying, as we're told happens in the last week--but that base might be in states that are deeply red.

Or else that state polls are lagging. But I choose not to think that way.

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Maybe McGoo can get Victoria Jackson and that dope from Cheers to help him pull out his home state. Lord knows they haven't had acting gigs in at least ten years. Victoria could use his $5,000 tax credit to get one of those chins removed.

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WTF is up with her???? I used to really think she was great. Wow, talk about too much drug use.

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I've often said that the 30 minute program Obama has planned for tomorrow night would be his death blow to the McCain campaign. I still think that's going to be the case, if there are still enough people out there who could vote for Obama but need that extra push. If there are, I think that the state polls will reflect such an increase by the weekend. Or maybe it will show up on election day, as most people who were already in Obama's camp have even more of a reason to go to the polls. Whatever the case, I expect this to help Obama in several states. If the polls there are as close as some suggest, perhaps this could help flip Arizona.

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Did you hear Campbell Brown whining (CNN opted out of the ad) about Obama reneging on federal financing? Isn't her spouse a big time Republican?

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Yeah, what a load of shit. The headline was "Obama breaks a promise" and she proceeds to go on about what he said last year. What's with the present tense in the headline???
She makes no mention of the people who have contributed to his campaign, that figures!
I guess it's a case of the media trying to even things out!

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That is pretty indefensible from a journalistic perspective, when the story has no currency (or new info) and therefore no news value.

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I imagine she was getting grief for covering the mccain sleaze-talk express accurately and in order to "balance" the coverage had to find something. You are right though, it is indefensible. I guess CNN saw that MSNBC has been kicking their asses lately and is looking to play to the right. Muppets!

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I really think Obama should hold a campaign rally in Phoenix, AZ this weekend. I think he would turn out a huge crowd and force McCain to throw money at his own home town. It would be great stuff and a sure full day media grab for Obama.

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This might not be a bad idea especially for the latter reason you mention. It would force the pundits to talk about the tightening in AZ and contaminate McCain's efforts to convince the base that he's "got 'em right where he wants 'em." Campaigning in the opposition's home state is a newsmaker, especially when recent polls lend it some credibility.

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I would love to see Obama make a Southern swing, on Friday/Saturday, say. Georgia-Mississippi-Texas-Arizona. Then back to the relatively-compact battleground states arc (Missouri-Indiana-Ohio-Virginia-North Carolina) until Election Day. Make McCain sweat, big time. That would be sweet.

(And, of course, winning those states would be even sweeter. I think Georgia is highly doable, actually.)

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Kentucky! Come to Kentucky, Barack! Morning in Ashland, afternoon in Hopkinsville would gain Mitch's Senate seat at least, probably two Congressional seats and maybe the whole state.

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A poll conducted by Zimmerman was released showing Obama only 2 points behind... and I was one of the voters called in that poll last week!!!

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I read that McLame is now running ads in Georgia.

Georgia.

I also just heard that about half of the expected voters (70% based on '04 and I think it will be higher) in New Mexico have voted already either early or absentee.


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Wasn't Arizona hit fairly hard by the mortgage crisis and falling home prices? Plus, there's been a shift in the demographics from retirees predominating to younger families with children.

Since the younger a person is, the more likely they are to be an independent voter, the fact that Arizona, is not a done deal for McCain, isn't as wild a notion as it would have been a decade ago.

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Good news, people: Dr. Ana Dubey's letter describing her experience with McMajorShit while on vacation in Fiji is back up and viewable on Neil Young's website. Check it out!

http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/index.html

Posted by John Crandell

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What a sorry, filthy, pitiful excuse for, well, even for a scumbag.  McScum indeed.

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For those who aren't clicking the link - one of the "lowlights" of McCain's behavior is telling all the women that they need to eat less because they're too fat. He also tells everyone that they need to keep Cindy from eating dessert since she weighs too much. I think I've got a better appreciation and sympathy for Cindy's drug addiction now, although a good divorce lawyer would be cheaper, quicker, and better for her mental health.

If this is true, he's not competent to serve as mayor of a small isolated city.

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Give it up man.

This story has been circulating since August, and its truth is undetermined according to Snopes.

I have respect for Neil Young as a musician, but he isn't a political reporter and he's in no position to vet this story.

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I live in Tucson- Pima County is fairly Democratic. There are many Obama/Biden signs and bumper stickers. I have seen one sign and two bumper stickers total (I've been keeping count). On Saturday Obama volunteers canvassed my neighborhood and were verifying that every Democrat possible had voted early (like me) or were planning on voting. Their organization is very good.

A lot of people in AZ don't care for McCain. His anti-earmark stance has meant he brings no money to the state and he has basically been running for president full-time since 2000. I think many Arizonans are ready for something different.

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Next Tuesday will be amazing.

By about 8:30 it will be obvious, but the networks will hold off until about 9:00 just to be a little fair, and allow McCain to drink some more bourbon.

Then it will be a steady stream of...watch what is happening in (fill in name of red state turning blue), we've never seen turnout like this, this a seismic shift of the political landscape, and this is history were seeing.

I so want to Chambliss get his payback, but Dole or McConnell would be okay too.

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Let's not forget Coleman...

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Buh-bye Norm! Buh-bye!

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Take Cornyn too. Please.

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Just sent off my Arizona absentee ballot. Nice to see Arizonans not giving McCain a free pass just because he represents our state.

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Please, please, please Sen. Obama... pay a visit to Arizona before the election! It could be just the nudge it takes to get a win here!

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I went to the Tempe Public Library today to drop off my mail-in ballot. LOTS of people waiting to early vote... dozens in fact. In the middle of a weekday.

It made me very happy. I don't know that these were majority Obama voters (though it's likely, Tempe is a blue city), but it really was thrilling to see so many people interested in participating in the election.

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Living in Phoenix, there is nothing I would love to see more that McShame lose Arizona. However...the Arizona SoS is Jan Brewer, a RWPA (right-wing partisan asshat) who would have no problem rigging the AZ results, at least to avoid the embarrassment to the Republican party. She has avoided transparency in elections in AZ at every opportunity.

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I go to ASU, and from what I see it's ridiculously full of very enthusiastic Obama supports. Plus, the voter registration drive here was chugging at full speed up until the last minute.

The mood here is one of excitement...people I know who in years past wouldn't have been caught dead voting are all signed up and ready to connect the arrows. I know a few die-hard conservatives as well, and the mood I'm getting from them is one of defeat and resignation. The polls seem like they're finally starting to show the Arizona that I've been seeing in the past few months. I'm very interested to see how this election turns out for the southwest.

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I live in NC. Yesterday, I happened across two people who have never -- NEVER -- voted for a Democrat but who this time are voting for Obama. One of them was the pizza delivery man, the other a former Republican operative. And there is a house nearby with and Obama sign flanked by a whole slew of Republican signs for down-ticket candidates. Maybe, just maybe, those of us who have hated the last eight years are underestimating the utter absurdity of the McCain/Palin campaign and its effect on "mainstream" Republicans.

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If Obama wins Arizona, the sight of McCombover struggling to take it on the chin as his beady litle eyes bubble with blood might just make my head explode with pleasure.

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McCain has a glass jaw. The only thing holding him up right now is the ropes. He's going down. He'll lose Arizona. 41 states. 404 EV. Mandate writ large. The national polls will tighten these next few days. McImbecile will take a few more hard shots to the body. In the final round, the Voters will finish off McPunchdrunk.

Please, Jack, don't let your head explode. Wear a helmet. I want to read your stuff for many years to come!

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Read this from yesterday by a lawyer in AZ, longtime resident and frequent poster at emptywheel re AZ and possibility of winning:

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/28/why-barack-obama-needs-to-come-to-arizona/

Then read this post of his later yesterday:

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/28/breaking-news-arizona-officially-within-two-points/

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You know what would be devastating to Republicans? Not just McCain losing Arizona, but looking at the electoral vote map over in that sort of direction --->, McCain, the GOP standard bearer, and by extension, the GOP itself looks to be able to win only a hand full of states, mostly in the tradtional South. If things happen that way, the Republican Party will become the minor, regional southern party that Andrew Sullivan predicted they were in danger of becoming. I for one would shed many crocodilian tears if that were to happen.

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Good morning, everyone!

Quinnipiac polls:

PENNSYLVANIA: Obama 53, McCain 41
OHIO: Obama 51, McCain 42
FLORIDA: Obama 47, McCain 45

Associated Press/Gfk polls:

Obama holds leads in New Hampshire (+18), Pennsylvania (+12), Nevada (+12), Colorado (+9), Virginia (+7), Ohio (+7). Tied in North Carolina, Florida.

http://www.ap-gfkpoll.com/

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This new Obama ad is just devastating:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/his-choice_ad/

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it's freakin aawesome

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Game over.

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You know why I especially like it? People who mute the tv will see all they need to see!

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Absolutely great.

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That ad is so good my mouth started to water. It seems the Obama team has gotten some better ad guys, earlier in the year their ads were a bit........lackluster.

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Hmm. McCuster is making his last stand in PA. good luck with that!

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and 3 new polls in PA
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For Obama...
MCCAIN HAS HIM RIGHT WHERE HE WANTS HIM!!!

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nov 4th is taking forever to come.

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The thing is, people in Arizona have seen McShame up close and personal for 26 years. They know better than most what a petty, narrow-minded vindictive prick he is. They've seen his out-of-control temper. More than a few of them have been subject to his unhinged tirades and vendettas launched at the smallest imagined slight. And while they might be willing to tolerate that in a senator who generally votes the way they want (it's still a fairly conservative state, though growing less so by the day), I bet many are frightened at the prospect of him in the White House.

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State polls look great--so wtf with the nationals tightening so much? (Obama up by only 3 in today's Rasmussen, supposedly?)

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That's the base coming home, those Nat polls don't matter much because they really just focus on the Pop vote, we need to worry about EV votes.

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Aww come on I made this thread last night and got absolutely no recognition. Yea I said it, I want some love from my TPM bretheren.

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Good piece by Walter Shapiro on how McSenile came to be where he is now:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/29/mccain_2000/

I'll tell you, this incessant up/down, jubilation/despair is turning me into a nervous wreck. And, believe me, I'm not alone.

Here in Europe, lands of the cheese-eating surrender monkeys and dreaded socialists, where we take free first class health-care for granted, (oh, the horror, the horror) and where we don't like religion intruding into politics, (pinko, terrorist-appeasers that we are), this election is edge-of-the-seat stuff.

Most Europeans, far from being anti-American, like and admire the US. It's the Bush/Cheney Axis of Imbecility that we hated. The prospect of McSlime and his nut-job bible-slut delivering 4 more years of the same, (assuming they don't turn the planet into a radioactive ash-heap), fills us with horror.

Obama is going to have an absolutely
huge reservoir of good-will to tap over here and, I believe, in the rest of world. Just as the US did after 9/11 until Bush and his gang of crooked incompetents threw it all away.

You know, if an enemy of the US was seeking to destroy the US's power and standing, they couldn't have done a better job than The Decider.

George W. Bush- Agent of SMERSH.

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Let's wait until after tonight's Obama ad. The numbers will shift. Definitely, definitely...

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It would be interesting to see a news account of exactly how the Obama campaign has handled Arizona. I'm guessing the reason it is close -- and has been for a few weeks now -- are many.

1) Changing demographics and the double threat to retirees with the stock and housing markets down, as noted above.

2) Overconfidence from McCain and a stealth campaign by Obama (so as not to appear disrespectful of a native son).

3) The real native sons (and daughters), native Americans and Latinos.

4) Lots of Arizona Republicans despise McCain and as long as he is going to lose anyway would be happy to be part of his comeuppance

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I'm in the Southeast Valley (Chandler, near Sun Lakes retirement community). We've been hit hard by the mortgage crisis, and we live in an area full of young families like us, as well as retirees/snowbirds. I've been telling people for weeks that McCain shouldn't take AZ for granted--I bet Obama signs/stickers have outnumbered McCain's 5 to 1 around here. Lots of Southern California transplants here (probably 1/3 of my block in our housing tract)--I wouldn't be surprised at ALL if Obama takes AZ.

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I've been a regular visitor but with this new poll in AZ I just had to jump in. I've been campaigning for Barack since the primaries. There is a lot of anti-McCain sentiment in AZ.

I've thought for a long time that we have a chance to win here. I figured it was only a matter of time before the latino population would figure out that Obama was their guy.

We closed the gap to 9% during the primaries the disadvantage was that we just didn't have enough time for people here to get familiar with Obama - but despite that we turned out 14,000 in a rally a couple of weeks before Super Tues.

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I live in Tucson and just got my first McCain robocall. I think he could lose here. By the way the recorded call suggested Obama was "dangerous". I think somebody is paying attention to the polls.

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Didn't get to read all the comments, but seems as if the Palin effect has effected Arizona... His numbers started tanking in his home state, almost on cue.

Somewhere Between Joe the Plumber and Sarah the Palin, McCain's own homeies woke up to the charade.

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Nice cartoon about Arizona getting close in the polls and the very different treatment of Pennsylvania ("battleground state!" even though Obama now about 11% ahead) and Arizona ("safe for McCain" even though McCain now only about 6% ahead) at the Reasons To Be Cheerful, Part 3 blog...

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