More And More Polls Show Obama's Lead Expanding
It's starting to look like John McCain's historic selection of Sarah Palin hasn't done him any favors in the polls.
Here's this morning's Rasmussen tracking poll: Obama 51%, McCain 45%, outside of the ±2% margin of error. Obama was up 49%-46% yesterday, suggesting that Palin's scandals may have helped him to double his lead in just one day of sampling.
And the new Hotline/Diageo poll has Obama up 48%-39%, compared to a 44%-40% lead from just one week ago.
Late Update: Three more polls all show Obama leading by a substantial margin. The daily Gallup tracking poll has Obama up 50%-42% -- the first time ever that he's reached the 50% threshold in their poll. The USA Today/Gallup poll has Obama up 50%-43%, and ARG has Obama up 49%-43%.
There is also yesterday's CBS poll, which gave Obama a 48%-40% lead.















Part of me feels like McCain isn't really even trying anymore. Like he wanted to be president, then realized he didn't have the energy, and now is just going through the motions, pretending to care, but really just trying to sink his own campaign.
I can't think of a better explanation for Sarah Palin, minus him just being a complete idiot.
Well...now I'm torn...
September 2, 2008 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lux, go with Occam's razor on this one.
Like the poll numbers. All the same, like the man at the top of the ticket, it's best not to get too excited when they're up or too down when they are not. Keep on pushing steadily to Nov 4.
September 2, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
No no, I don't mean this in reaction to the polls, I know not to put much weight on any of them, but just with his VP choice in general...he is either a complete moron or he is purposely trying to sink his campaign.
It of course is yet to be seen if his choice actually sunk it. I'm betting yes, but I don't think this polling really shows it yet. In the long run though, I think he just kissed his chances goodbye.
September 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Once again I am indebted to Al Franken for reminding us of the concept of a false choice. It is entirely possible that McCain is BOTH stupid AND sabotaging himself.
September 2, 2008 12:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
A shrink would have a field day with McCain's choice of Palin. Totally self-defeating. Sydney blumenthal has a piece up on HuffPo, where he talks about how the relatively "adult" Bushies were pushing Romney. Like a teenager who has authority issues, McCain rebelled and chose Palin. One how he would behave as president if someone pushed his buttons in that sort of way. Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran indeed.
Another full time job for a psychologist is the media. For years, they have projected onto John McCain, a kind of warrior hero status, ignoring the fact that he's not very smart. Thank God he chose Sarah Palin. Otherwise we might have been stuck with a president more incompetent than George Bush.
September 2, 2008 3:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really, truly thought that Obama's pick of Biden would basically force McCain to go with Romney. Instead, McDaddy picked a candidate who needs to add a few pounds just to be considered a lightweight.
*chorus of "O Happy Day" inserted here*
September 2, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
One theory I have is that John McCain - whether he was right or wrong - personally felt that the only way he stood a chance of winning this thing was by selecting either Lieberman or Ridge as his running mate. (Ridge may actually have been his best shot) When the wingnuts and fundies slapped him down for even suggesting these guys, he threw up his hands and said, "Whatever you want!"
What makes it difficult for me to buy my own theory is McCain's ego and the fact that he's sold himself out so many more times during this campaign - why fret over just another sell-out?
September 2, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
OG:
Just curious why you think Traitor Joe would have helped him? The conservative base hates him because he's pro-choice and real Democrats like me despise him for being a Bush-Cheney toady. Only the media think he would have helped.
Rob
September 2, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think he thought that only Joe or Ridge would help him. Joe would have been an even worse pick than Palin, IMO. He would have been much more qualified for the job but the fundies - the only reason McCain is even experiencing a little bounce from the Palin pick - would have retreated en masse. And I don't think Joe would have much appeal with GOP moderates (he was, after all, a Dem until very recently) or even Dem moderates (he's a traitor). Ridge may have helped, especially in places like PA, OH, and MI. (where Lieberman wouldn't have helped a bit) And I think Ridge could appeal to moderates in both parties and to independents. Still, he'd also turn off the god squaders, although probably not as much as Lieberman would have.
September 2, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
He hooked up with a younger woman before to get his political career going (current wife.)
Looking to jump start his last political career he decided (instinctively, emotionally, subconsciously) that a younger woman (a "soulmate"! his words) was what he needed.
Worked once! But it is sign of being a doddering old man, not fully in control of his decisions, making choices that objectively look foolish.
It's sort of like Grandpa having an affair with a younger woman. He thinks of himself as a young vital guy.. The kids look on in alarm and wonderment. But Grandpa sill thinks it is perfectly reasonable.
One day he wakes up and realizes that he never had a chance. He's just a sad old man.
It reminds me of Phillip Roth's "Everyman" which includes a character, aging, who tries to flirt with a younger woman... and realizes it is all quite futile.
McCain doesn't quite realize it. To admit that he was truly old would be to end his campaign. His whole campaign is predicated upon his being plausibly young enough to be President. Selecting a younger woman has always validated men's sense of being "young enough still."
But others look on and shake their heads. It makes them look old.... not young. When they finally realize it, the realization hits them like a load of bricks. McCain is probably waking up to this reality of being old just about now.
September 2, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you see the video of him introducing her to the crowd? He's playing with his wedding ring while staring at her ass.
Mr Subliminal.
September 2, 2008 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree. At first I thought this was a Hillary II strategy. Then I realized that for McCain this was all about Palin's MILF qualities. He had a "gut" feeling...
September 3, 2008 6:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
og, look at it from another point of view. Perhaps McShame really did vet Palin and dug up what's hitting the streets now. And since the conservatives and christies were being such snits, he decided to play along with them by putting their pride and joy in the front window. Now everyone can see she's not the Madonna she was thought to be. So by the time the repug convention ends, McShame will have a VP, but it will be his choice. So either McShame is a dotarding old fool or he's being a crafty fox.
September 2, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
And then he can waltz into the White House while the GOP base stays home?
September 2, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess the best explanation is that he really thought he would benefit from the fundie/disaffected Hillary voters.
When Palin was first presented in Dayton she immediately began referencing Hillary and her 18 million glass cracks. That seems to show the strategy they were pursuing.
The fundie part is why they chose Palin instead of some better known or better qualified woman, although the only one that I can immediately think of is Heather Wilson, who has her own issues, but still, is in a different league from Palin when it comes to the substantive issues that McCain seems to think are important, particularly national security.
September 2, 2008 12:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Like the 5 planes he crashed?
September 2, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just a blip. Post-convention bounce, ya know. The Republicans are gonna have their spot in the sunshine this week. Just you wait!
Fred Thompson is gonna knock 'em dead tonight.
September 2, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Put them all to sleep would be a better explanation. Wonder if he will even have to ask that crowd to give him a round of applause after he speaks?
September 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Obama breaks 50%. This has been the supposed "magical" threshold that Obama had to meet in order to satisfy the pundits of Obama's chances. I'm wondering when the TV bobbleheads will start being critical of McCain's loss of support. I won't hold my breath.
September 2, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
They'll simply move the goalposts. Why can't Obama get to 52%?
September 2, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I heard he can't even get to 51.1%.
September 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Obama doesn't hit 70%, doesn't he lose? I mean that means 30% of the country prefers McCain. This *is* a referendum on Obama after all. 70% or its proof that Obama is a dud! :P
September 2, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's the script:
Wolf Blitzer; 'Three new polls out have Obama with 56% over John McCain's 44%......but is it enough?
Stay tuned, we'll discuss this when we come back.'
September 2, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wolf Blitzer:
". . . and we're back! Now, what about the Wilder effect? It probably doesn't exist at this point, but the fact that somebody once came up with the idea several years ago does give us a reason to keep talking."
September 2, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
"...and, when we come back, we'll have James Carville, Paul Begala and Lynn de Rothschild on to discuss the burning question: Would Hillary Clinton be over 60%, or 70%, at this point? You're in the Situation Room."
September 2, 2008 4:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I was thinking that the Palin saga could be salvaged by the GOP but it's looking worse and worse. The WashingtonPost gives a nice summary with emails on what is going on.
This was a bad choice McCain.
September 2, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Per Josh's post on the front page, her and her lawyer do seem to be making efforts to stall.
September 2, 2008 10:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
They may be successful at stalling a decision/resolution... but I don't think that it will keep it out of the media spotlight. Once pregnancy-gate dies down, trooper-gate should be front and center.
September 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
If French keeps talking to WaPo, it won't do them much good to stall.
September 2, 2008 10:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good news on the national polls. Now above 50 in 2 separate polls.
I'm anxious to see the next batch of state polling in battlegrounds. Is this national trend carrying through at the state level?
September 2, 2008 9:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't know yet. The state-by-state polling is harder and not done as frequently, I think. It seems likely though that most of the national poll movement will be concrentrated in OH, FL, CO, NV, VA, and maybe even NC, IN, and NH.
September 2, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is not the time to get overconfident. It's time to donate again (I just did) and work harder.
September 2, 2008 9:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, I know you mean well, but happiness over a couple of good polls doesn't equal overconfidence or idleness. You might consider waiting until people say "Well, I guess that wraps it up!" before chastising them.
September 2, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not trying to rain on anybody's parade, it's just a reminder that's always timely. And advice that Obama himself clearly follows.
September 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
But . . . But . . . But . . . McInsane has yet to give his acceptance speech . . . Johnny-mop is bound to get a thirty-five point bump due to his golden throated delivery style alone.
September 2, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
If the speech is in front of a green backdrop, then that pretty much confirms that he's messing with everyone.
September 2, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
He'll be giving his speech in front of a green screen. The background will be a throng of cheering supporters. The Corporate Media will spin how this shows that the world wants McCain, and only a leader universally beloved (like Jesus) can make the world safe for terrorism. (Or did I mean from?)
September 2, 2008 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
It looks like Obama got more of a bounce from John McCain's vp pick than he did his own.
September 2, 2008 9:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
You mean independent voters aren't flocking to the "Alaska First!" ticket? Now that's a shocker.
September 2, 2008 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
I like Obama's chances, and am generally optimistic, but referring to a change in polls from 49/46 to 51/45 as a "doubling" of his lead when the poll has a 2% margin of error seems like a bit of stretch. I wouldn't be surprised if the Palin pick hurt McCain more than it helped him, but isn't it also possible that the "actual" numbers are 50/45 and these two polls just had the usual amount of noise in them?
And, of course, we still have two months to go, so let's not get complacent.
September 2, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, to be fair it was "suggesting" and "may have", so I don't think Eric was strongly asserting that his lead doubled. But yes, I agree with the premise that saying it doubled is a little silly considering how small the change is, and in just one poll.
September 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
this is quite a change from last few weeks when everyone lost faith and started whining and all "woes me".
This was never going to be easy. And it's still not going to be easy.
The depths to which the republicans are willing to go to put lipstick on a pig and successfully sell it to their base and other misguided souls is astounding.
If you have watched the shows, the republicans have ONLY trotted out women to defend the Pallin decision and it's ensuing aftermath. They're such weiners, but smart weiners. They know the men will do a terrible job of defending an "absitence only" mother who's daughter gets knocked up - so they have to hide behind the skirts of the women in the party to do the heavy lifting.
question - I didn't get to watch Pickles last night, did she address the baby's momma issue?
September 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does anyone here plan on watching the McCain speech?
Personally I'm going to be watching opening night of football - Giants vs Redskins.
September 2, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't make it through any of his speeches. I'll wait for the highlights.
September 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
I will watch purely for the laughs. I am pretty sure he is going to be rocking a dashiki, have his hair in braids, wearing platinum chains. He has to touch base with the Black vote.
I mean, why stop the pandering at the female vote? Get McJiggy with it.
September 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
This didn't occur to me until just now and it's huge! McCain has to compete with the NFL 2008 season opener for attention?! I'm not a gambling man, but my money is on the NFL opener -- even with the 35 point spread!
September 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm totally watching it. That should be the comedy event of the year. I can't wait to see what he comes up with to top "That's not change we can believe in, heh heh!"
September 2, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Elone:
I will be blogging tomorrow night on my Traitor Joe website for the Lieberman speech. Like the movie "Airplane," when the character says, "I picked a bad time to give up sniffing glue," Traitor Joe picked a bad time to switch parties.
Rob
September 2, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, his acceptance speech is going to be at the same time as two of the most storied franchises in the NFL - long time division rivals - are kicking off the NFL season? Heck, that the 'Skins are involved may even cause some of the beltway media types to only pay half attention to McCain's speech. Yet another example of how terrible the McCain campaign's planning has been. They got one win - blunting the effect of Obama's acceptance speech on Friday and Saturday. But it looks like even that has worn off. Plus, and I believe this, with the media spending 2-3 days talking about Palin, it didn't give them 2-3 days to spend dissecting Obama's speech, trying to find things wrong with it. And you know they would have, even if they had to make shit up.
September 2, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not so.
The Skins/Giants game was moved up to avoid conflict with the speech. Kickoff at 7pm ET, 4pm for us Westies. The acceptance speech won't happen until the game is over.
September 2, 2008 1:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
QTip,
The choice of Palin shows the strength of character and enchanced decission making skills that a Republican can gain from almost three decades in Washington.
Inquiry: Is it time for McInsane to start filming Viagra commercials?
September 2, 2008 10:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
LOL!
September 2, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
What about Bob Dole, Lieberman and McCain in the Viagra Ads? "If we can get it up ... anyone can."
September 2, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
McGoof doesnt want to win. I mean sure he wants to give steaming hot boiling water to infants, but dont we all? Thats American!
September 2, 2008 10:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rude-EE GOOLiani has bailed on the key-note speech tonight.
Lieberman AND Thompson will be extolling their BFF-ness with McInsane instead . . .
I can't believe that Guliani is giving up a chance to say his own name and 9/11 on national TV.
September 2, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey folks, go look at Intrade.
Palin is trade up 8.5 today on the questions "Will Palin be withdrawn as VP?"
trying not to laugh...
September 2, 2008 10:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wished the Dems would lay the ground work for talking about election fraud on Nov.5. If they don't we'll just look like sore losers.
If you play your own electoral games here:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/electoral-vote-tracker.htm?
you can see that only a few stolen states could cost Obama the election.
Also, as Greg Palast reminds us, the theft is in full swing. We need a huge victory to counteract.
September 2, 2008 10:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
538's analysis of the swing states and who runs them. Basically, the only state where Democrats really need to worry about fraud is (surprise!) Florida. In particular, OH, VA, and CO have Democrat governors and Secretaries of State (i.e. the guys who do the vote count certification).
Caveat: the list isn't 100% accurate. The Secretary of State in NH is probably a Republican, on the basis that he was appointed by a Republican governor and confirmed by a Republican state congress back in the 1970s, but he's stayed in office since then despite both branches changing hands a few times.
September 2, 2008 10:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
it is great that the press is actually covering the sarah palin gimmick with some circumspection. because on friday it did not look like there would be any. that said i am in the don't get complacent camp. the press is fickle and without integrity. and they have sold much bigger lies than sarah palin. so it aint over. they don't want it to be over yet. and so it won't be. so chuckle a little but get ready for the next round of swift boats.
September 2, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
The spike in Rasmussen is particularly noteworthy, I think, because the pollster's LV screen tends to underestimate Obama's support, since he is attracting a lot of young, new and/or historically infrequent voters.
September 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you. Glad someone noticed that.
September 2, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great! I'm sure these slew of poll are sobering news for the Obama campaign, but somehow, the MSM, i.e., CNN will find someway to criticize these polls numbers. One of the earlier comments alluded the MSM moving the goal-post.
September 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, no, they won't criticize the numbers. Polling numbers are sacred to the MSM, definitive statements of the state of the race, uncomplicated by issues of timing, methodology or margin of error. Polling numbers are news, THE news, the ONLY news.
No, instead, we'll get to hear how these numbers disclose A TERRIBLE PROBLEM FOR OBAMA!!!
September 2, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, no, no, they won't criticize the numbers. Polling numbers are sacred to the MSM, definitive statements of the state of the race, uncomplicated by issues of timing, methodology or margin of error. Polling numbers are news, THE news, the ONLY news.
No, instead, we'll get to hear how these numbers disclose A TERRIBLE PROBLEM FOR OBAMA!!!
September 2, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly! The numbers will reveal that Obama still hasn't made headway among 78 to 80 year olds living in swamplands with no internet connection! And can he possibly win without the critical swamp geezers?
September 2, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm more and more convinced that McCain is sabotaging the republican party for its own good, making the ultimate pander to the fundamentalist (let's stop pretending that those people are "conservative") base in an effort to loosen its grip on the party that keeps independents from choosing the R lever every November. This theory allows me to stop thinking of him as a truly tragic sellout. (It's been hard for me to reconcile his campaign with my lingering belief that he didn't sincerely take a great deal of pride in his integrity. (I had really wanted him to accept Kerry's VP nod.)
That, or he's lost his mind and he doesn't realize that you try to drive the wedge between your opponent's supporters.
September 2, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Im in step with that theory, but I dont think its for the party's good. I think that he is just still wounded by what happened in 2000, and this is his way of saying "fuck you, eh he ehh eh"
I mean the flip flopping since then is amazing. to have the same rove on your team, the same man that made you so ashamed of your child, that even to this day, you wont let the country see her.
on another note. I dont think he is smart enough to pull that off either. I am so conflicted.
September 2, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's hear it for Occam's Razor (dispense with superfluities) and Hobson's Choice!
A Phalin strategy, no choice at all.
Putin and Palin, soulmates, close namewise and not all that far apart geographically. And he completes her.
September 2, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
It is great to see Obama finally above the 50% mark. However, I fear that all that this means is that the 527 smear machines will get into high gear sooner than they wanted to. Looks like it could turn into another gays, guns, and abortion election. But I think Obama is above that and the Palin selection will show what horrible judgement McSame has.
September 2, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's probably true. Obama's doing great, but there's still two months of hard slog ahead. Even with the GOP in disarray right now, there's plenty of campaigning left to do.
The good news is, it's much better to start from here 6-8 points ahead than behind.
September 2, 2008 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
My friends, Senator Obama's poll numbers show that he is a celebrity and is not ready to lead this country that I love so much that I chose a right-wing nutbag with not experience to be a heartbeat away from the oval office. My Friends.
September 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/intrusive-personal-questions-from-palin.html
Monday, September 01, 2008
"Intrusive Personal Questions" from the Palin Vetting Questionnaire
"Mr. McCain’s advisers said repeatedly on Monday that Ms. Palin was 'thoroughly vetted'"- The New York Times
Palin "responded to a 70-question form that included 'intrusive personal questions' a senior campaign aide said today."- The Washington Post
"Intrusive Personal Questions" from the Palin Vetting Questionnaire:
1) Did we forget anything?
2) Secession from your own country is
a) Patriotic
b) A qualification to be the potential leader of that country
c) Maverick-y!
d) None of the above
3) John McCain has said that he has followed your record for "many, many years." Divide those "many" years by the number of years of your actual record. The result is
a) Three days
b) Two years as mayor of a town of 9000, and 20 months at the helm of the vaunted Alaska National Guard
c) 0: experience, as we know, is not relevant to one's record
d) Czechoslovakia
4) Moose Burger : Abstinence as Moose Hunting :
a) Brother-in-law
b) 50 state flag
c) Bridge to Nowhere (after it was made impossible)
d) All of the above
5) Did we forget anything?
6) Three Vice Presidential candidates are moving from three equidistant fixed points towards a podium. One, in his slightly glazed stare and awkwardly quasi-combative speech bears a faint resemblance to Dan Quayle; the next can only assist the ticket as we near closer to Rapture; the third seems to have stumbled out of one of Christopher Buckley's sharper efforts. Which one arrives at the podium first?
7) "Nothing that has come out did not come out in the vet." This sentence actually means:
a) Everything has come out and everything has been vetted
b) Everything that was vetted has come out
c) Everything that has come out was vetted
d) The vet came out and vetted the vets vetter than anything has ever been vetted. Really.
8) You are a right-wing, red-state conservative. During the Clinton Administration, you believed that President Clinton's behavior with Monica Lewinsky disqualified him from the Presidency on moral grounds; you fervently raised the terms "Lincoln Bedroom" and "Johnny Chung" to invoke notions of utter corruption, and regarded the "Travelgate" firings as an abuse of power. In the face of the recent revelations regarding Palin's directorship of Ted Stevens' 527, support of the Bridge to Nowhere, "Troopergate" imbroglio, and illegitimate pregnancy of her 16 year old daughter, you:
a) Blame George Soros
b) Talk about Bill Clinton instead of Palin
c) Hold your hands over your ears and loudly shout "La la la"
d) Try to change the subject
9) "Foreign policy experience" includes:
a) Being near another large nation
b) Seceding from your own country and then taking up residence in the new nation
c) Being close to "Nowhere" in your support for the Bridge to Nowhere, which is different than being "Somewhere"
d) Blame George Soros
10) If you were seeking to choose as your running mate someone who would please Evangelical Conservatives with very traditional values, who would be without taint of corruption or misuse of government power, and someone who, in line with your campaign's own slogan, would put "Country First", after thorough vetting and "intrusive personal questions", you would choose someone who:
a) Supported the Bridge to Nowhere
b) Supported the secession of Alaska from the U.S. (Slogan: "Alaska First!")
c) Was the subject of a state ethics investigation due to allegations that she had tried to have her brother-in-law fired and that she fired the state public safety commissioner due to his unwillingness to fire the brother-in-law
d) Would suffer from allegations that her 16 year old child had become pregnant illegitimately, despite her fervent support for abstinence only sex education
e) None of the above
Cite:
Head of State:
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/intrusive-personal-questions-from-palin.html
September 2, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just wait till TRAITOR JOE gives his speech tonight. That will move the needle. I'm crossing party lines, how historic of Me.
September 2, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
By far the biggest news in the last few days is...............................from Rasmussen. Not the 51-45 part, which is good...............................not even the highest favorable--58-41, reached only one other time--June 6th. The biggest news is in the.....................daily very favorable-very unfavorable rankings. Yes, John McCain has finally crawled up from the everyday 20-20 area hea has been stuck in for a long time---he had 25-20 yesterday, and 24-20 today. These are people who have pretty much made up their minds---it will take something really big to change them.----------------------Obama has gone from 33-30 to his highest ranking ever-----38-26. that trend is going to be very difficult for McCain to reverse----and there are many moderates, and undecideds, and women voters who will soon figure out that he was bullied into capitulating to the far right with his pick of Palin.
September 2, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wasn't around for Dole in 1996, but I asked people about it -- and when it became clear that Dole was just there to make up the numbers.
McCain's apparent ceiling across most polls seems pretty telling.
September 2, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's wait until after the RNC. Will there be a bump for mccain from the RNC? The folks on CNN are right re: the repubs need the RNC to control/dictate the introduction of Palin. Is it too late for that? I know folks 'inside the beltway' already have their first, second, and probably third impressions of her, but does the rest of the US? And what of mccain's counterpunch to Obama's brilliant acceptance speech?
Let's wait until post-RNC polls come out and see if Obama stays north of or at 50%. I think if he does, then we have reason to be more and more optimistic.
September 2, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't relax on the good polls!
Remember from ther primaries: Obama underperforms his polls, probably due to residual racism.
September 2, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
You've heard the expression for someone who speaks before he thinks:
Ready, FIRE, Aim.
With McCain it's more like:
FIRE!
September 2, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's hear it for Occam's Razor (dispense with superfluities) and Hobson's Choice!
Don't want to be one of those guys, but the misuse of the phrase Hobson's Choice is a pet peeve. I'm not sure what the poster above meant, but most* people use the phrase to mean that a choice offered is bad (either because you're damned if you do, damned if you don't or because it's an option between two bad choices--lesser evil.../devil you know...). The expression actually means that an apparent choice is actually no choice at all. Thus, the chooser really doesn't have an option (either literally (think a rigged Monty Hall game) or, metaphorically, because one is truly unacceptable, not merely more repugnant). I don't mention this as a gotcha. Actually, I wanted to pose the question below:
*Actually, I have never seen it used correctly. Has anyone else?
September 2, 2008 11:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
by the by, "damed if you do..." is actually " Morton's Fork".
September 2, 2008 2:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anybody want to guess how long it will take for Rovian hatchet man Steve Schmidt to "resign" from the McCain "campaign?"
September 2, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just know these numbers are A TERRIBLE PROBLEM FOR OBAMA!!!! I'm going to have to wait until I hear from the A and B teams at CNN before I know why, but they must be. I mean, this is Obama we're talking about and his troubled campaign just has nothing but problems, problems, problems, oh the terrible, terrible problems. Problems to the left of him, problems to the right. Oh, the problems he'll have.
Wait, I haven't checked Halperin yet, today. Maybe he can explain the latest problems to me.
Nope, he's ignoring Rasmussen and just reporting the numbers on Diego Hotline.
September 2, 2008 12:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
And the problems keep mounting for Obama's uphill candidacy. He just hit 50% for the first time ever in the Gallup Daily and opened up his lead to 8%
Another Terrible Problem for Obama!!!!!!
September 2, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's really hard to believe that John McCain selected an attractive women who is young enough to be his daughter, AGAIN.
September 2, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's remember that John McCain was given up for dead during the primary season as well. This is his kind of battle. The worse it gets, the harder he fights. I'd say John McCain is now in his element.
September 2, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe. But he's not running against Rudy, Mitt, Huck and Fred Thompson. Nor is he in a race where being the least repulsive candidate among five to 30% of the voters in a state gets him all of its delegates.
September 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
A word of caution: In the last 40 years (since 1968), no Democratic nominee has won in November without being ahead by at least 17 points right after his convention. (Repubs have won with small post-convention leads.)
The GOP has made amistake by taking Rudy out of primetime tonight and replacing him with likable but half-dead Fred Thompson and the reviled Joe "Droopy" Lieberman the nebbish.
September 2, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
New Gallup ##s:
Obama: 50
McCain: 42
The Palin Bounce is looking better and better every day.
September 2, 2008 1:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The problem with JMAC is time has passed him by. In 2000, he was able to make to decisions he needed to make and look like a leader. But today you have to look at the whole man. He went negative on Romney to get close. People who didn't want to vote for JMAC voted for Huckabee instead. It didn't matter if he had 30 or 40% of the vote...the goal was to divide Romney's vote. With a winner take all system, all he needed was to win by just one vote. Now, he's in the general election and feels he can beat either HRC or OB. The problem is, he has always been behind in the polling. So let's do some polls and see what the people want to hear. Now this is where a pattern starts.
1. People want relief at the pump, I can't do anything with the state tax (which by the way makes up a large portion of the tax) but I can suggest we suspend the fed tax for the summer. Now did he think it through...apparently not when OB pointed out it would save the average family $28 during those 3 months. GIMMICK #1
2. Polls say like the idea of drilling. Some good...go for it. Well then he had this stupid slogan "Drill here drill now." Besides looking silly saying that line in the middle of an auto plant...he should have picked a better back drop. Next, he was force to say...well no oil will get to market until 10 yrs from now. Instead of defending his position he hands out tire gauges and says this is OB's energy plan. AND …Still had to admit OB was right on the tire inflation thing. (GIMMICK #2)
3. Probably the most important to date. His VP choice. We now know he wanted either Joe L. or Tom R. But when he went to his fundraiser...they bucked. It was so bad that Rove had to call Joe L. and ask him to remove his name from consideration. Only when there was a threat to split the convention did HE buck. But, OB start having a good week with the Dems and he picked Biden...looking at the polls he made the same decision he made with Romney...you can have your voters but I want the ones that don't like you. Now what woman can I put on the ticket that I have alienated in the Senate, none. Gov...none except one...Gov Palin. Hey she's prolife, life member of the NRA, and has a great story. She wasn't vetted seriously, because his staff was focus on the other SERIOUS candidates. Let's just get the basics and if she's okay let’s move forward. Now all of the crap is coming out about her and backers are saying "What the heck were you thinking John?" (GIMMICK #3)
But as we all know, he doesn't like to be told what to do...but he's in a jam. In a jam I say because as more and more stuff comes out...the bigger OB's lead is going to get. Sending a team to AK is too late now because the genie is out of the bottle. He has to ride this horse and hope not to get bucked. Everyone is waiting for her speech...that won't do much because she knows how to read a teleprompter (SP?). No the minefield of the Sunday Morning Talk Show is what's going to turn this drip into a river. And the debate, less than a month away, will turn this river into a flood.
If something else comes out….he’s done.
September 2, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Isn't it a good thing for Mc894/899 if no one watches his speech?
As someone who tried to watch every major candidate's full stump speech about once a month this election cycle, McCain was the only one where I hit a point where he was absolutely unwatchable and that was months ago now.
The man is terrible as a speaker in that way, so the more undecided viewers to see the juxtaposition the better.
September 2, 2008 1:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Mark Crispin Miller that a 10% spread is necessary to battle the shenanigans that GOP operatives will attempt to employ via faulty and vulnerable voting systems as well as classic voter suppression techniques.
So one more possibility is that Palin may help provide cover (like the 'Bradley Effect' and others) for analysts who try to posthumously explain away an unnatural shift from polling to the official results. Just trying to stay a step ahead - I imagine there are some hidden benefits to this selection that aren't immediately apparent.
September 2, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
...she does make eagleton look "palin" comparison.
I'm going out to buy new shoes for my happy dance, when she gets pulled from the ticket.
September 2, 2008 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't compare her to Eagleton. I compare her to Ferraro.
September 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's probably some kind of Bradley effect going on, except not along the lines of race. Studies have shown that despite voters saying they value decades of experience, they just can't bring themselves to pull the lever for senile geezers.
September 2, 2008 1:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Real Clear Politics has a note up pointing out that the USA Today/Gallup poll is two days (Sat/Sun) from the tracking poll, so these shouldn't be treated as two separate polls.
September 2, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain will bounce back to a statistical dead heat with a slight Obama lead. It will come down to the debates. If Obama performs as well as he did in most of the primary debates, he will be able to 'run down the clock' and win by a slim popular and electoral vote majority.
September 2, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did anyone else notice Politico's storyline today that Obama had a very small bounce and is coming back down? WTF? Politico will do anything to make it a horserace and to make their friend, McPOW, look good. Remember, Politico was part of the McPOW lovefest BBQ at one of his vacation homes where Politico brought Cindy flowers! Man, are they in his pocket - his base, right?
September 2, 2008 2:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, I noticed that and commented on it in another thread. Talk about a head-scratcher.
I call it McCainico.
September 2, 2008 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, that same bs story has been front page on Yahoo! for the entire day. And it's a day old...
September 2, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's not all. Hurricane Hanna will be making a 'landfall' appearance then, too.
September 2, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love it ... McCainico!
September 2, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Eli Manning for VP!!
September 2, 2008 2:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's gains will ring more loudly with me after the RNC is over.
September 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe McCain really *is* a maverick, and he's bucking the Republican Party that screwed him over so badly in 2000 by playing to lose, and taking down as many of them as he can.
Okay, maybe I don't really believe he'd do that consciously. But unconsciously?
Peace,
Paul
September 2, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to the AP, Obama got a smaller than ususal convention bounce and it is already shrinking. Check it out.
September 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm watching CNN right now talking about there being no bounce for Obama after the convention. What are they smoking? Perhaps they are referring to their own poll which shows a 1% lead for Obama. Ridiculous.
September 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
According to the AP, Obama got a smaller than ususal convention bounce and it is already shrinking. Check it out.
September 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude, that is the already rebuffed cross-post from Politico. They are in the tank for McCain. Obama leads big in all polls.
September 2, 2008 3:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now that is Change with Depends™ On!
LK
September 2, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
i think the polls will change as soon as folks start hearing the truth about palin instead of the trash you guys put out this week. i loved what maria bartoromo said this morning...i think people will quickly realize this was a very savy pick! kudlow has also been raving about her. my she will dominate the energy discussion and that drives the economy as well as national security!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
i think the polls will change as soon as folks start hearing the truth about palin instead of the trash you guys put out this week. i loved what maria bartoromo said this morning...i think people will quickly realize this was a very savy pick! kudlow has also been raving about her. she will dominate the energy discussion and that drives the economy as well as national security!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2, 2008 3:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I use a lot of exclamation points so you know I'm right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
But wait...McWar has not giving his speech yet, so these polls don't matter...
September 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
But wait...McWar has not giving his speech yet, so these polls don't matter...
September 2, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
michelle, pass the bong please!
September 2, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where is the data from the bogus CNN poll which always shows Obama even or supposedly in trouble? Nail biting must be in full session over at CNN HQ.
September 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you see the video of him introducing her to the crowd? He's playing with his wedding ring while staring at her ass.
Mr Subliminal.
September 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am not a political analyst or anything, but from my little corner I have a somehow different take on Palin selection. It has more to do with internal republican politics. McCain nevar was a favorite of the conservative core. They would rather go with Romney, Thompson, or someone like that. So, if they could push Romney as VP, today or tomorrow McCain gets "sick", and is replaced by Mitt. McCain responded by choosing a "bona fide" conservative, someone thet the core can't oppose to, but now they can't dream of pushing him aside because Palin is totally unprepared. So they have to stick with him. Totally irresponsible, but works for him.
Maybe I am wrong but it make sense to me.
September 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
pass the bong, share the wealth
September 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
pass the bong, share the wealth
September 2, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methuselah and the Milf are going down in flames. Who could ask for a more entertaining political season?
I believe it was a post on TPM that impressed me with a street-wise insight yesterday- the Palin pick is a gut level turn off for women because she is exactly the kind of women most women resent- the sexy ladder climber who seems to advance beyond her talents because of the way her sex appeal opens doors for her. This is a big blind spot for male pundits who simply don't have the biological make up to feel that resentment, but it's real and I think it may well be the subtext of the polling trends right now. It's an aspect of human nature as old as humanity itself, and no one in McCain's inner circle (presumably all male) saw it.
September 2, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
The polls going up is definitely good news.
And, I'd really like to see some polls from battleground states. Let's see how Obama is doing in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, and all of the rest.
My guess is that the bounce is bigger than the national polls which are sampling the really red states too which won't have any bounce at all.
September 2, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methuselah and the Milf are going down in flames. Who could ask for a more entertaining political season?
I believe it was a post on TPM that impressed me with a street-wise insight yesterday- the Palin pick is a gut level turn off for women because she is exactly the kind of women most women resent- the sexy ladder climber who seems to advance beyond her talents because of the way her sex appeal opens doors for her. This is a big blind spot for male pundits who simply don't have the biological make up to feel that resentment, but it's real and I think it may well be the subtext of the polling trends right now. It's an aspect of human nature as old as humanity itself, and no one in McCain's inner circle (presumably all male) saw it.
September 2, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's just hoping to get laid..........
don't lose sight of the fact that the Repubs own the companies that make the voting machines.
September 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's just hoping to get laid..........
don't lose sight of the fact that the Repubs own the companies that make the voting machines so McCains pick probably doesn't matter much.
September 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't Believe I'm going to stick up for McCaina and Politool!
McCain can't be blamed for losing one of his planes a soviet A30 missle had something to do with it. Rolling thunder tried to steer the old A-4s away but the target was too important....
Politool was right! Obama got his bounce --- and now McCain is getting a -8 bounce from his campaign!
Did you notice they took of Rudi and replaced him with Fred Thompson and Joe Liberman so the GOP won't look so old and whiney!
snark/off
September 2, 2008 3:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Methuselah and the Milf are going down in flames. Who could ask for a more entertaining political season?
I believe it was a post on TPM that impressed me with a street-wise insight yesterday- the Palin pick is a gut level turn off for women because she is exactly the kind of women most women resent- the sexy ladder climber who seems to advance beyond her talents because of the way her sex appeal opens doors for her. This is a big blind spot for male pundits who simply don't have the biological make up to feel that resentment, but it's real and I think it may well be the subtext of the polling trends right now. It's an aspect of human nature as old as humanity itself, and no one in McCain's inner circle (presumably all male) saw it.
September 2, 2008 3:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ridge was the one person on McCain's shortlist that would have been a net positive for his campaign, provided that the base was significantly motivated to show up in November as they did in '04.
McCain's "choice" of Palin further demonstrates just how deep the fundies' hold is on the GOP, and is yet another sign that if they continue down this path, they are heading for ruin.
September 2, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sydney Blumenthal has a post up on HuffPo saying that the Bushies (including Rove) were pushing heavily for Mitt Romney. McCain balked and picked Palin, in part as a way of thumbing their noses at him.
While you have to admire McCain's spunk, it was a self-destructive act that shows a rather scary lack of discipline.
September 2, 2008 4:14 PM | Reply | Permalink