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Top McCain Ally Hints McCain Will Go To Debate Because Congress Is "Back In Business"
We'd been wondering what justification the McCain campaign was going to hatch in order to make it possible for him to attend tonight's debate despite having suggested he'd be closing down his campaign until the bailout package is resolved.
And here's a hint, from top McCain ally Lindsey Graham this morning on The Today Show:
"What's more important than anything that when we go to Mississippi tonight, both candidates can say that the Congress is working, back in business, that we have an outline or proposal that will protect the taxpayer and save the country from financial Pearl Harbor, as Warren Buffet called it. We are not there yet, but we will get there."
And so the bar has been lowered to make it possible for McCain to go. The justification: McCain rode into Washington and lit a fire under Congress' collective posterior, and with that business done, he can attend tonight's debate.
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i sure hope someone points out the glaring hypocrisy in all this. What a sham for mcain to pull this kind of crap!! Wake up, America!!
September 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, he was for the debate, before he was against it, before he was for it.
September 26, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes and he blew up the deal so he could say he saved it.
Like an abusive dog owner who kicks the crap out of his pet and then comforts it to show he's its savior.
September 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Like an abusive dog owner who kicks the crap out of his pet and then comforts it to show he's its savior."
Wow. That made me pissed off just with the imagery. That should be hammered in to a slogan.
September 26, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I keep dreaming that Cronkite, Murrow, Ike, Moyers and others will make a national plea that this shit *has got to end*.
Dream on...
September 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am also dreaming that some Republican will speak up and say this stunt was nothing but a astunt and that MCPalin is just unstable.
September 26, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, with Moyers at least you've got an outside shot.
Hmmm. He's a Texan, IIRC. Must be a next-door neighbor of yours. Go on over and ask him to help out!
September 26, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Too "librul"...need some sane Republican too...
September 26, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
We are so fortunate to have a true leader like McCain to get Congress on the right track.
September 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. Thank God that John McCain exercised his talents as a natural-born leader and solved all that problem. Perhaps he could go to work on a cure for AIDS next?
September 26, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
We can only hope.
September 26, 2008 10:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Professional Assessment here:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/a-woman-has-to-say-it-mccain-m.php
Please recommend if you think this describes what's going on!
September 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Go to a bipartisan meeting you've demanded and help blow it up into a partisan slug fest. Then stand over the pieces of a broken deal and say "Look how good I fixed it."
He really is very much like Bush
September 26, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
September 26, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I never thought I'd see it...he's actually a way fucking bigger asshole than Bush.
September 26, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think McCain went out of his way to make Bu$h look Presidential for a change.
Bu$h actually went to a Democrat controlled House and Senate with an request for immediate action and was willing to negotiate the terms to see it get passed. When has that happened in the last 7 and a half years?
Unfortunately, McCain is a tough love cause in helping Bu$h, he purposefully shoved a lead pipe between the spokes of the legislative machine churning out the legislation and virtually killed the initiative; it's now DOA.
Perhaps the only way to make a point that repugs and government do not mix is for the economy to go belly up worst than the Crash of 1929 and the Great Deoression.
September 26, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did anyone not see this coming?
September 26, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pretty much...
September 26, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
You can't put too much water into a nuclear reactor...
September 26, 2008 11:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
At the pre-debate handshake, Barack should lean over and whisper: "Relax. Letterman isn't here."
September 26, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
"And the ladies from The View won't pick over your bones tonight either."
September 26, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Right. Cuz, you know Chris Dodd and Barney Frank were just sitting around getting high until McCain rode in and cracked the whip.
*bangs head on desk*
September 26, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
HE DIDN"T SAY ANYTHING AT THE MEETING!
this is a crap.
EVERYBODY smelled this from a mile away.
September 26, 2008 10:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
I almost had an aneurysm when I read on the NYTimes site last night, "Obama peppered Paulson with questions during the meeting, but McCain said little." GAAAHHHH!
Crap indeed. I can't dedide whether he's more like a toddler who's whipped off his diaper and is careening around the house, befouling the carpets, or....well, like a senile oldster doing the same thing. >:-X
September 26, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
What would you expect him to say? He's obviously out of his depth on this topic.
September 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, it certainly is possible that everyone else there thought McCain's stunt was just that and gave him the cold shoulder.
C'mon Missouri and NC, wake UP!!
September 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
McLiar is beyond pathetic.His attempt to appear as the white knight sweeping into Washington to save the day was a flat out failure as everything went haywire when he got there and there is no deal in place. Now they are trying to save face. CNN just announced that Debate Commission will allow a townhall meeting for Obama if McCain doesn't show up.
September 26, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
can't obama just say, john, you and i both know you didn't say anything at the meeting. so stop trying to take credit for it.
September 26, 2008 10:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
So he flew to Washington, injected presidential politics into the deal, got it blown up by the Republicans, caused more problems than existed before he showed up, and then rode away.
A metaphor for his Presidency (and Bush really)
September 26, 2008 10:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly.
Sorry little piece of shit - he can't have fooled anyone with this bullshit stunt.
And pulling stunts in the middle of a crisis is really mature and shows such leadership -
September 26, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
"got it blown up by the Republicans"
This is the craziest part of it, to me -- the man has absolutely no leverage over HIS OWN PARTY. We all know the pResident has none, so who is running this show anyway? It's amateur hour! Shouldn't the nominee and long-long-long-serving Senator be able to get the backbenchers in line? How would he work with a Dem Congress as (shudder) Prez if he can't get consensus within the GOP? What a c*ckup.
September 26, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
And neither does the President. The House Republicans seem to have turned in to a separatist sect. Todd Palin must be proud.
September 26, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
What in the hell does that mean? They've had outlines flying about for days
September 26, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
McCain just came into town to insert a 2 year capital gains holiday into the bill - because Republicans don't want their rich buddies to have to pay for the bailout. Please tell me the Dems won't fall for this!
September 26, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Can someone please explain to me how a reduction (or suspension) of the capital gains tax helps fix the current crisis??
Seriously. I don't understand it.
First of all, the markets are tanking. If you sell your stocks at a loss, you don't have to pay capital gains tax. Seems to me this "distressed paper" is ALL going to be sold at a loss. So what difference does it make if the capital gains tax is 20%, 15% or zero??
The government insurance idea (the other half of the House Republicans' proposal) is at least plausible. But the capital gains tax?? C'mon.
-- ARG
September 26, 2008 11:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you know? There is no such thing as a problem that cannot be fixed with tax cuts targetted to the upper income brackets. Bush proved that. This is why our nation is more stable and prosperous than it has ever been and our economy is the envy of the world...
Seriously though, I am asking myself the same question. No one would pay a dime of capital gains tax if they sold these toxic assets at a loss (which is the only way they will sell), so how does lowering capital gains tax rates encourage the liquidation of these toxic assets? It makes no sense.
September 26, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hey, I'm all in favor of eliminating the capital-gains tax. . . . Just as long as capital gains are now counted as ordinary income!
September 26, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Republican Ppresidential candidate, John McCain, displays and gains 'executive experience' holding democracy hostage . . . Ignored by news at eleven.
September 26, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Did McCain wag the pitbull? How many Americans did he distract from Palin's fumbling interviews?
The good news is that the VP debate is still on!
September 26, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
If he did distract them he's just delaying the inevitable.
September 26, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
The latest line from the Right is that if McCain refuses to go, there might be an effort to shut the debate down as an illegal campaign contribution to Obama.
September 26, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, turns out this is correct. The debate committee can't finance a one-candidate debate, so it would be canceled. Which would piss a lot of people off - McCain would be the lone culprit, no "we wouldn't have this if Obama would do 10 town hall meetings" crap, that wouldn't mean jack shit to anyone. McCain's going to be there or he's going to spend the next few weeks defending his decision.
As my late father used to love saying, "Hoist by his own petard."
September 26, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
DONT BUY IT!
he's going to show up and he's just playing the suspense card right now.
there's no way in hell he won't. there's too much on the line. politically, he knows that something will be ont he table tonight. and then he can go down and say
obama has to say, john, iw as in the same room with you and u were over in the corner holding your blanky.
September 26, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is starting to be a little talk of avoiding the problem by having Obama debate Bob Barr.
September 26, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why not Ron Paul as well? I hear Nader is available . . .
September 26, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
They'll end up arguing over who thinks McSame is a bigger asshole.
September 26, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, technically there has to be two candidates for a debate, otherwise it is not kosher. Don't be surprised if it is canelled...
September 26, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
The media will soon be glowing about how McCain has regained his footing based solely on the fact that tonight's debate is supposed to play to his strengths. Barack will underperform and quite possibly sink his campaign because he "ummmed" and "ahhed" a bit and because he is way too cerebral in his debate answers. And the typical McCain polling bounce will be seen as clear evidence that he is turning things around.
Come Monday the electoral college polls will look exactly the same.
September 26, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
You want to make a bet about the media? this isn't 2004 and they are not treating Obama like they did Kerry. It's also not 2000 and they aren't treating Obama like they did Gore, either.
The media has come over to this side this past week - please catch up people = we can no longer blame shit on the media.
September 26, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I honestly think that most people will see McDuck's antics as completely unecessary - just done to create more drama with no positive impact.
For the more savvy voters from any corner, I think they will see it as bat shit crazy boding very badly for him and his candidacy.
Although he may have bucked Bush, he is nevertheless just as volatile and uninformed as Bush has ever been. In that light, he is indeed beyond just "more of the same."
For what's it's worth, Bush has a life after the WH. McCain, if elected, will die there.
September 26, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think someone just blinked. I wonder how Palin's going to react?
September 26, 2008 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
So true.
September 26, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
1 - Lindsey Graham is a total sidekick and a creepy loser.
2 - Does he alsways quote Barack Obama's supporters (Warren Buffet) when issuing a creepy statement for Dishonorable John?
September 26, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just what our country needs at a time of crisis: a flailing, erratic leader. Well done Mr. McCain.
September 26, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
HISTRIONIC!
HYSTERICAL!
Professional Assessment here:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/a-woman-has-to-say-it-mccain-m.php
Please recommend if you think this describes what's going on!
September 26, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
He's a perfect student of Rove. Attack your opponent's greatest strength (perceived leadership ability) and use it against him. He just failed to realize Rove meant the "other guy's" strength - not your own.
September 26, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Let's not forget, this is a man who has missed 592 of 3720 votes in the last two years. And he's the one that is getting congress moving again (after they've been working 16 hours days for a week)??
I seriously need a vacation. I'm booking my tickets for Reality Land.
September 26, 2008 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
BULLWINKLE ASSASSINATED
http://www.blueherald.com/uploads/Buck/Bullwinkle_Assassinated.jpg
I don't see how the debate can go on now
September 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder if she made stew?
September 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can't believe how badly McCain underestimated Obama. Did he really think Obama was going to agree to cancel the debate?
Besides looking completely out of control, McCain has managed to hurt himself in other ways as well. The fact of the matter is that McCain can't really do two things at once and this is going to seriously throw him off his game. He really needed all the debate prep he could squeeze in. His bouncing around from interview to interview and city to city doesn't really help him.
And now the press is ENRAGED at him. Not just miffed. Seriously pissed.
September 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lowers the expectations.
"I couldn't prep. I didn't nap. I couldn't get pumped up with my Abba-loaded iPod. Sheesh. And lookie the Illinois Senator. He was well-prepared. Must not have been working too hard on the economic bailout if he was so well-prepared."
Book it.
September 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I can also be interpreted that McCain is only hurting the negotiations and is getting his ass kicked out of Washington.
September 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Jorge, even this media stopped 'glowing' about McCain weeks ago. He looks like a jackass whether he appears or not, and I'm pretty sure Obama will manage to remark about McCain's useless drop-in to DC that not only lit no fire, but halted the progress. I've been a complete pessimist for decades on Democratic electoral chances, and even I think there's just no way Obama loses this thing. The McCain "campaign" is a train wreck that an airplane crashed on.
And where's our pal "DemBillC" been?
September 26, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Dude - he was down on the other thread telling me I'm dumb.
Don't invoke demons, folks!
September 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Are you related to Palin's pastor?
September 26, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I feel like we are all in a Fellini movie.
September 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
...one scripted by Kafka.
September 26, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is going to blow up in McCain's face.
The narrative the McCain wants people to believe is preposterous on its face: "John McCain suspended his campaign because he puts country ahead of politics. He selflessly went to Washington and single-handedly saved our financial markets." I'm not sure how you even begin to tone that down to make it work for McCain. He has to claim that he acted apolitically. He has to claim that he played a crucial role in the negotiations. If not, he looks like a total jerk.
The problem of course is that only the most partisan believe a word of it. Undecided voters are going to look at this fiasco and supply the obvious counter-narrative: "John McCain suspended his campaign because he was afraid that he was starting to slip in the polls and he needed to throw another Hail Mary. He went down to Washington and either did nothing, or maybe made things worse."
At the end of the day, McCain has seriously eroded his own narrative of being for "Country First" and of being the candidate of experience and judgment.
September 26, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
And then he went crawling back into the debate because Obama wouldn't buy his bullshit.
September 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
But for whom?
As I see it, he was doing the CEO's on Wall Street the favor by derailing the Democrat initiative, not the public.
September 26, 2008 11:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
What a pompous egomaniac... Strutting around the halls of Congress and the White House like he was the messiah. I hope he gets his fanny kicked tonite. As for Graham, what can I say? I live in SC. Sighhhhhh..
September 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ok, McSame has decided this morning to head to Ole Miss. As I am writing this, it is reported that his team is packing to leave DC.
So far McSame's only defense against the "mistake," "spoiler," and "bad bet" that Democrats and some Republicans including Huckabee characterized for his opportunist venture in Washington has been: if only "Obama had agreed to 10 or more town hall meetings," a line that he has been inserting in every interview he gave since Wednesday evening. He believes this one-liner will neutralize any criticism thrown at him.
September 26, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
Its incredible that he thinks anyone will believe that town hall line. It was bad enough as an excuse for attack ads. Now it becomes absurd that he can't debate Obama because Obama didn't debate him earlier (on his terms no less.)
Again, he undermines one of his perceived strengths (strength/courage.) Who looks like they don't want to debate. Obama, who did 20+ debates in the primary or McCain who is trying to duck this one?
September 26, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
My vote goes with "made things worse." And I'm pissed off about it, too. In the meantime, WaMu goes under, while McLame flies around the country, holds at least 3 interviews and multiple photo ops.
September 26, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
How much you wanna bet WaMu is not a McCain campaign contributor?
September 26, 2008 11:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would love to be wrong about the reaction of the media. Maybe the new emerging narrative about McCain is stronger than the old one, but it was just 4 weeks ago today that they were telling us about how wonderful Palin was based solely on the word of the McCain camp.
Either way, Obama is a chess player and I expect that whatever he does tonight will be two moves ahead of whatever anyone is expecting. One of the things that he does very well is to put out memes that become very powerful only after they've sunk in. Heck, he spent the better part of 2007 allowing Hillary to build herself as the experienced, establishment candidate and then used that momentum to turn her into "the same old same old."
September 26, 2008 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
A lot has changed since then. The media is bored with their new toy (Palin) and McCain really burned a lot of bridges by shutting down access to the media.
September 26, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
They may be getting bored,but the scuttlebutt from the Right is prominent conservatives are speaking out and suggesting she withdraw her VP nomination. After three televised interviews, they've realized she really is stupid.
September 26, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, now who do you think can prepare better for a debate without days of preparation, McCain or Obama?
I'm not sure it's even close. McCain's not exactly a clear thinker right now.
September 26, 2008 11:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're right, and Obama needs to go for a knock-out punch tonight (analogy inspired by your avatar).
He needs to get McCain to blow his stack. I think the conditions are right for that to happen. Obama needs to say something, in calm even tones, that sounds rational, but really gets under McCain's skin. Then he needs to punch that bruise a few times, and get McCain to blow.
The thing to do is challenge the man's honor. Call him a liar, to his face, on national TV. Point out that he's not been putting country first, but doing the exact opposite. And use just a little bit of sarcasm (while still sounding Presidential).
That should do it.
-- ARG
September 26, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Come the hell on - please. There was an anti-Palin piece in NRO this morning and it's not the first. Katie Couric actually, for Katie, conducted a brutal interview of Palin.
If y'all want to stubbornly hold on to the past, there's nothing I can do about it. But dayum, people - I thought we were reality based, not ideology clingers.
September 26, 2008 11:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's something from ABC News about how McCain now has to own the breakdown
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105288&page=1
"In the battle over perceptions, it really is this simple: There was a deal before McCain came back to Washington. There was not a deal by the time the evening ended. And now there might not be a bill -- or a first presidential debate Friday in Mississippi."
September 26, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
The media narrative has become very negative for McCain with his poll numbers tanking, Palin's drool on Couric's microphone, and his ridiculous American Hero(TM) act this week.
I can't remember a time when a candidate for the Presidency was treated with such *open* contempt, especially a Republican. I really think Obama has passed the Serious(TM) test in the media, and he should thank his stars for McCain's idiocy tonight in helping to draw such stark contrast with him. IMO, this thing is going very well for O now.
September 26, 2008 11:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
It has occurred to me that, based on the furious, absurd spin the McCain camp puts on everything they do and say, how every lie, cheat, and failure they commit gets turned into a glorious victory, that McCain would actually make a really great Soviet Premier.
He even looks the part. Can't you just see him on the Kremlin, waving as the tanks and missile battery trucks go rolling by?
September 26, 2008 11:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
If McLiar doesn't show up the event will proceed as a townhall meeting with Obama
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/plan-b-proposed-for-mississippi-debate/
Obama is leaving for Mississippi at 11.00am.
September 26, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Think he'll still go if the stock market tanks today?
September 26, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Want to bet that if the market does tank badly they will close it?
Because they will if it starts to crater that badly, they'll shut down trading.
September 26, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama Blasts McCain's "Political Stunt
"John McCain sought to change the subject from his out-of-touch response to the economic crisis with a big announcement that he was 'suspending' his campaign. But the only thing McCain really wants suspended is the American people's disbelief. In fact, he's been in full campaign mode the entire time...
"When McCain finally arrived in Washington, almost twenty-four hours after his announcement -- and after Congressional leadership announced a deal in principle -- he huddled with his lobbyist campaign advisors while his running mate held a political rally and his political spokesmen and surrogates were out in full force, continuing to attack Barack Obama.
"So make no mistake: John McCain did not 'suspend' his campaign. He just turned a national crisis into an occasion to promote his campaign. It's become just another political stunt, aimed more at shoring up the Senator's political fortunes than the nation's economy. And it does nothing to help advance this critical legislation to protect the American people during this time of economic crisis."
September 26, 2008 11:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perfect.
September 26, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
O this is my president.
Awesome!
September 26, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with the many points in this statement from BO... and they have merit, no doubt.
I cannot help but feel reluctant that this whole upheaval will take BO off his game tonight at the debate. I don't think the McCain camp saw this as a primary benefit necessarily, totally ancillary. But it still concerns me and statements like these confirm my concerns. It is just oozing with something... contempt? Judgment? I donโt know.
September 26, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
He'll go.
What a colossal failure this whole pathetic gambit has been.
September 26, 2008 11:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I would think the gov of MS, Haley Barbour, will drag mccain to the debate. They have spent a fortune and Ole Miss has all these events planned for the entire day. Barbour is an old line republican and raises a ton of money for his grand old (demented) party.
I just wish the networks could sue the mccain campaign for all of this - lost revenue, breach of contract, there's got to be something they can sue them for - - - anything.
September 26, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
It isn't about holding on to the past, it about the future and future ratings. The media is constantly looking for a new spin. A new spin that keeps people glued to the TV.
And the producers, executives and personalities who produce the MSM have not changed. I agree that many of them have fallen out of love with McCain, but they also have a vented interest in making it a close race. Let's look back at the primaries - after March 5, Hillar was done. But Chuck Todd was the only one going on TV night after night saying tha the math was just impossible for Hillary.
If beating up on McCain and Palin is a sustainable way to keep ratings high, they'll do it. But if not, the spin will change. Once whatever form of the bail-out package passes, the media will be ready with "is it working?" and "who's fault is it storylines?"
If Palin doesn't drool on herself Thursday, then the storyline is going to be how McCain advisers did her a disservice by forcing her to speak talking points and now we are seeing the new Palin we all love.
And if McCain is a cocky jerk tonight and acts as if Obama is a naive fool, there is going to be a strong current that will push the talking heads to speak about how the economy might not be his strong suit but no one can keep our babies safe like POW John.
September 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
O whatever - you're trying to dig yourself out of the hole now and I get that.
I can't deal with things that haven't happened yet - the future does not exist. It is nothing right now but infinite possibilities.
September 26, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I posted this upthread but it does give a lot links to how McCain and Palin are being treated right now in the media, and its not entirely pretty.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/Story?id=3105288&page=1
They like a tight horserace, but they also love a good trainwreck.
September 26, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Palin may be getting thrown under the bus:
http://townhall.com/columnists/KathleenParker/2008/09/26/the_palin_problem?page=2
If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.
Only Palin can save McCain, her party and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.
Do it for your country.
One can only hope.
September 26, 2008 12:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll say this: Republicans across the country are reeling, though I'm sure they will pretend otherwise, from McCain's antics over the past few days. McCain revealed himself for the coward he's become, and the Repubs are now cowards by proxy. McCain ruined the Republicans last claim--the idea that they are tough and brave. What a disgraceful bunch!
September 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
More accurately: McCain rode into DC and passed enough gas to light a fire which fouled the whole process.
September 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know about others, but I had a sense that "No debate until the Deal" was a publicity stunt, free media coverage to sell "Country First" slogan, but it did not take long to find out the motive, and it certainly backfired.
And once again Obama campaign was on time to highlight McSame's desperate attempt.
September 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
Please stop blaming NC for Lindsey Graham.
September 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
To clarify - I don't think the media is in the tank for McCain. I think the media is in the tank for ratings. Though I never worked in the media on the national stage, I worked as a promotion producer for a 24 hour local news channel for years. You can't believe the crap we played the breaking news music for on slow days...
September 26, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
The question is whether an imploding McCain campaign, and the rise of Obama who becomes more and more like to become this country's first African American president, would become a huge ratings grabber. I think it would.
September 26, 2008 11:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh I see you fixed it. Thanks.
September 26, 2008 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
After 2000, McCain could have pulled a Gore and decided to become a world player from outside of elected office. Akin to Al Gore's second act that is surpassing Jimmy Carter's (and that's saying something.)
Maybe it is the fact that McCain had no passion outside of politics the way Gore has the environment and Carter has the poor. But considering the esteem to which McCain was held between 2000 and 2004 he could have accomplished alot of good - as a champion for veterans rights or something like that.
September 26, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
CNN's Suzanne Malveaux reports that debate officials at the University are now "back-timing" McCain's flight plan, trying to predict whether he'll attend by checking to see if he leaves Washington soon enough to make it. They're convinced he'll be there. I don't see any way he can avoid it without looking like a spineless weasel. So much for the "maverick" image.
Dana Bash just said that campaign officials have now told her that "Senator McCain believes that sufficient progress has been made" and that he now "feels comfortable" attending the debate.
McCain's on the case. This nation owes him an enormous debt of gratitude for riding in on a white horse and saving this deal that was already near completion.
Dana Bash just said that McCain officials told her that they "realize they need to get McCain out of town" because the perception is he's doing more harm than good.
September 26, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
The reality of his blunder is sinking into the consciousness of the McCain camp.
September 26, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now its official that he is attending. McCain blinked. Obama starts the debate one up on McCain before a word is uttered. Barackarate!
September 26, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
More like Barackido or BaracKwanDo. You know, not throwing punches so much as using his opponent's aggression against him.
September 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
If he does, avoid it the newly coined name "Cadaverick" (by MrsTarquinBiscuitbarrel at firedoglake) will be more appropriate than ever!
September 26, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tena -
Not digging myself out of anything... And I'm not sure why our exchanges have to get personal.
September 26, 2008 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Even as an Obama supporter I may switch based on the Country First selfless leadership of John McCain. He should open by saying: "Given the upset last night of USC, the SEC is now poised to take over leadership in the college polls and therefore the SEC Chaiman no longer needs to be fired and the crisis is over. That is why I am is very happy to be in the heart of SEC country at OleMiss tonight, and that even though the Rebs are having an up and down season, so has their flag for over a century." But what do I know.
September 26, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since when has being "clear-minded" mattered in any of these debates.
The rules of the debates are strictly controlled to allow a GW-type to simply repeat campaign-slogans.
Although, it is sounding more and more like the fatigue of being a 70 y/o cancer survivor is weighing on McCain (something the Cheney's had counted on to help them only after he was in office).
If Obama can manage to make McCain *think* during the debate, it will be all over. But if McCain can remain disciplined and just repeat non-sensical but market tested slogans the debate will be a wash.
September 26, 2008 1:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really think Obama will clean McCain's clock. I mean, I wish I could be 100% sure, but I'm about 80% sure of this anyway.
My disappointment is that the economic crisis will push econ into what was supposed to be a foreign policy debate. This is problematic, because what Obama needs most of all is a chance to take ownership of McCain's biggest (perceived) strength. Because if O can take that away (with "integrity" and "experience/judgement" crumbling already) then all McCain will have left to run on is prejudice.
Fortunately, some polls already show McCain's lead on foreign policy fading, even without direct engagement. Not sure whether that's from Obama's cool head when all of the liberal pundits were panicking or McCain's panic when...um...whenever anything happens at all.
September 26, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't expect to see Obama try to draw McCain into a fit of rage or to do any clock cleaning tonight. The Conventional Wisdom on presidential debates is, first, to do no harm to yourself. Also, it is the nature of Obama's personality to play it safe. I expect Obama to project confidence, competence, and an appreciation for fairness and being a good sport. Really, that is all he has to do.
On the other hand, in this campaign so far, McCain has shown little regard for following Conventional Wisdom. I expect to see him try to land the sucker punch or pull off another stunt. It could be some fresh new accusation or a far-reaching proposal on some extraneous topic that will grab all of tomorrow's headlines. That is McCain's style. The question will be, will Obama respond in the calm and steady manner that he has shown so far when McCain pulls something like this? Will McCain overreach and make himself look ridiculous (again) by saying things that no one can possibly believe?
My bet is that it will not be Obama who lands the killer blow on McCain tonight. It will be McCain himself.
September 26, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink